team3s
Monday, February 14
2000 Volume 01
: Number
058
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Date:
Sun, 13 Feb 2000 13:13:37 -0800
From: "Murat Okcuoglu" <
murat@dellnet.com>
Subject: Team3S:
Engine power loss
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91 T/T car 66K, engine less than 10K, all well
maintained.
I have serious lack of power at the first 10% of throttle.
beyond that, all
is fine. The transition in between is smooth. This
started when the dealer
replaced the engine under warranty.
I have new
fule pump, new fuel filter, new K&N air filter, plugs @ 0.034",
run
12psi,
all of the above changes improved the condition but it is not
there yet
any ideas?
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Date: Sun, 13 Feb 2000 23:24:58
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From:
gil_lee@usa.netSubject:
Team3S: apex blow off valve and erratic idle
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i just put in the apex twin
chamber blow off valve and now the car seems to
lose idle (engine dies)
frequently. is there something i can do to fix
this
myself?
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Date: Mon, 14 Feb 2000 01:35:32
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From: Matt Jannusch <
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Subject: RE:
Team3S: apex blow off valve and erratic idle
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> i just put in the apex
twin chamber blow off valve and now
> the car seems to lose idle (engine
dies) frequently. is
> there something i can do to fix this
myself?
Sure, take off the Apex BOV and put the stock valve back
on. The problem is created by the loss of air which the ECU has measured
and expects to enter the cylinders at some point. When that air never
arrives in the cylinders, the car doesn't know better and injects the
appropriate amount of fuel to combust a mixture that isn't there. If there
are adjustments on the Apex valve to make it stiffer and resist opening more,
you could try to stiffen it up some, however you will still have the basic
problem mentioned above.
- -Matt
'95 3000GT Spyder VR4
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Date: Mon, 14 Feb 2000 16:49:19
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From: "Tim DeKeyser" <
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Subject:
Team3S: Belts
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Hi Everyone,
I had the 2 belts for power sterring,
and AC replaced just yesterday, and
all is fine, except for when I hit the
AC button. There is a loud squeel
from under the hood, and if I throttle it
a little, it gets louder. It will
stop squeeling for a bit, then the blue AC
light turns to a red dot, and the
ac stops working. Whats going on?? It the
belt not tight enough to turn the
compressor pully when the AC is turned on?
Please advise, and what I should
do.
91 TT Stealth
Tim (Dallas,
TX)
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Date: Mon, 14 Feb 2000 09:00:12
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From: "Darcy" <
w.c.e@home.com>
Subject: Re: Team3S:
Belts
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Hey Tim;
Take it back to dealer and tell them it's
their problem. You paid for a fix
didn't you?
BEst
Darc
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Monday, February 14, 2000 8:49 AM
Subject: Team3S: Belts
>
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>
>
> Hi Everyone,
>
> I had the 2 belts
for power sterring, and AC replaced just yesterday, and
> all is fine,
except for when I hit the AC button. There is a loud squeel
> from under
the hood, and if I throttle it a little, it gets louder. It
will
> stop
squeeling for a bit, then the blue AC light turns to a red dot,
and
the
> ac stops working. Whats going on?? It the belt not tight
enough to turn
the
> compressor pully when the AC is turned on? Please
advise, and what I
should
> do.
>
> 91 TT Stealth
>
Tim (Dallas, TX)
>
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Date: Mon, 14 Feb 2000 20:45:34
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From: Matthews <
matthews@wiesbaden.vistec.net>
Subject:
Re: Team3S: apex blow off valve and erratic idle
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Matt Jannusch
wrote:
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>
> > i just put in the apex twin chamber blow off
valve and now
> > the car seems to lose idle (engine dies)
frequently. is
> > there something i can do to fix this
myself?
>
> Sure, take off the Apex BOV and put the stock valve
back on. The problem is created by the loss of air which the ECU has
measured and expects to enter the cylinders at some point. When that air
never arrives in the cylinders, the car doesn't know better and injects the
appropriate amount of fuel to combust a mixture that isn't there. If there
are adjustments on the Apex valve to make it stiffer and resist opening more,
you could try to stiffen it up some, however you will still have the basic
problem mentioned above.
This is the same behavior I experienced after
installing the Blitz BOV. The
stiffer I adjust it the less the engine
stumbles, and of course the less benefit
the BOV offers between shifts (which
always seemed minimal, anyway). The main
reason I installed the BOV was
to eliminate the intake resonance that began with
installation of the FIPK,
so I leave it on, but even tightened down to its
stiffest setting I get an
annoying stumble when I let off the throttle. As soon
as I find a
better solution for the intake resonance, the BOV is coming
back
off.
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6-spd
Adjustable Active Suspension, Adjustable Exhaust System
K&N
FIPK, A'PEXi Super AVC-R (1.0 bar @ 72% BADC)
A'PEXi Turbo Timer (30 sec),
Blitz Blow-Off Valve
Magnecore spark plug wires, Redline ShockProof
fluids
Abex metallic brake pads, custom braided brake lines
Michelin Pilot
XGT-Z4 245/45ZR17, Top Speed: 168mph
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@ 113.9 mph
1 Feb 99 Dyno Session: 406 SAE HP, 354 lb-ft
torque
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Date: Mon, 14 Feb 2000 13:02:03
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From: Dan Jett <
djett@corp.ultratech.com>
Subject:
Re: Team3S: apex blow off valve and erratic idle -Reply
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I too have the
"stutter" with my BOV. I have the Greddy type S, which
vents back
into the intake. I have adjusted the valve to both
extremes, and everywhere
in between. I have the stutter minimized for
the most part, but at times,
especially when the car is warmed up, it
comes back. Interstingly, it
seems to stutter only under MILD
acceleration, ie., when rpm's are
under 3500. This leads me to
believe that the valve isn't fully closed when
the throttle plate
opens back up. My mileage dropped a couple mpg since
install as well,
which would support this theory, as it seems I'm running
alittle more
rich.
Dan Jett
94 Stealth TT
K/N FIPK, Greddy
exhaust, Greddy BOV, Centerforce DFC
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Date: Mon, 14 Feb 2000 14:55:20
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From: "Bob Forrest" <
bf@bobforrest.com>
Subject: Team3S:
Moving the MAS... Questions...
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I'm hoping some of you engineering
types spot this and can give us
some insight... A number of us
non-turbo types are involved in what
we call the 'Intake Redesign
Project'. We'll be replacing the
segmented intake hose with a smooth
one, and a couple of us are
installing eRAMs in the path as well. Our
current NA engine intake
path involves 2- 90° elbows on a segmented hose
with a resonator
bottle hanging down from it. We're planning to swtich
to a smooth
tube system, move the MAS, and stick the K&N air filter down
near
the foglight area. See the stock setup diagram on the resonator
FAQ
page:
www.stealth-3000gt.st/FAQresonator.htmQuestions:
-
--When we move the MAS, should we move it to the TB end or to the
filter
end?
- --Will the MAS slow down the intake air more at the TB end or
the
filter end?
- --Will we change the MAS readings by adding an extension
to the
wiring?
Please reply privately with your input.
Thanks.
Best,
Forrest
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