team3s
Sunday, January 30
2000 Volume 01
: Number
041
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Date:
Sat, 29 Jan 2000 02:19:04 -0800
From: Nick Xiong <
nxiong@juno.com>
Subject: Re: Team3S:
New AAM Y-Pipe
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well I could say the GT PRO one looks way
better!!!
> To be honest Roger I am a little confused by your
comment. You say
> the> GT Pro one is better, why? You are
always displaying cold hard
> numbers> to the list to back up your
statements but I see none this
time. I
> see> not much
difference between GT Pro's and Alamo's where as Mike at
> AAM has>
developed something new and different. Show me some facts if
you
> want to> have someone believe your statement AND before you
belittle
another
> persons product. > AAM works damn hard on
developing fast
3000GT's/Stealth's and they
> have> actually run
the times to prove it where as Brian's customers are
> "gentlemen
racers and don't go to the track" or maybe just can't run
> the>
times because the GT Pro y-pipe isn't as good.
> My .02 reply> Del
Kolasinski
>
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Date: Sat, 29 Jan 2000 00:50:01
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From: "Barry E. King" <
beking@home.com>
Subject: RE: Team3S:
New AAM Y-Pipe
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After looking at both pictures, I'd say it is difficult to
say which one is
better without comparing them up close and personal, then
testing the same
car with each of them. Seems to me to be a toss
up.
The one thing I like about the AAM pipe is the claim at least
that
turbulence was a design factor. No other manufacturers make such
claims,
and I rather doubt any of them actually designed it for reduced
turbulence
other than by the seat of the pants, which can work wonders
depending upon
whose seat is in said pants.
Barry
>
-----Original Message-----
>
> Well, neat but, to be honest the GT
PRO y-pipe is much better. Great
> aluminum, perfect done and even the
same price as AAM. As Shania
> Twain says
> : That don't impresses
me much.
>
> Roger
> 93'3000GT TT
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Date: Sat, 29 Jan 2000 13:49:30
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From: "R.G." <
robby@freesurf.ch>
Subject: Re:
Team3S: New AAM Y-Pipe
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Sorry guys, it was not in my intention to blame a
product that I don't know.
I used the wrong wording by saying the GT PRO one
I have "is much better".
I'd like to correct this by saying it
looks much better and is very, very
well made. I've seen a lot stuff and the
2-in-1 piece of the AAM is not what
I'd really like.
Speaking of
turbulence beeing a design factor... sorry where are their data
? No, forget
about that stuff, there is no turbulence problem as this is an
important
factor in the runners, and the path down to the chambers. Or would
you say
that the blade i nthe TB is not a factor of turbulence ?? And
speaking of
design, the 90° bend does nothing bad to the flow. Just look
inside the
plenum and you'll see that any special improvement before the TB
is a waste
of resources, money and time. It would be a problem if the 90°
would have
a sharp edge at the inner radius !
It's good that it is made of aluminum,
light, durable, no corrision and good
quality. But no one can ever proof any
performance increasement ! And for
look ... I'm not
impressed.
> The one thing I like about the AAM pipe is the claim
at least that
> turbulence was a design factor. No other
manufacturers make such claims,
> and I rather doubt any of them actually
designed it for reduced turbulence
> other than by the seat of the pants,
which can work wonders depending upon
> whose seat is in said
pants.
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Date: Thu, 27 Jan 2000 15:39:04
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From: "nketo" <
nketo@sympatico.ca>
Subject: Re:
Team3S: New AAM Y-Pipe
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Hey guys,
While we're on this subject, the
reason why the y-pipe was primarily
designed was to
hold onto the intake
plenium, correct?
I took my factory y-pipe off, and see that the plenium
has no "flange" nor
"grooves" for a
firm holding that
will secure the y-pipe from blowing off. (Many of you know
this already
:) )
I'm wondering how the different manufacturers have worked around
this
problem.
Any opinions/thoughts on this matter?
Thanks in
advance,
Noble
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From: R.G. <
robby@freesurf.ch>
To: <
beking@home.com>; <
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Team3S@stealth-3000gt.st>
Sent:
Saturday, January 29, 2000 4:49 AM
Subject: Re: Team3S: New AAM
Y-Pipe
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>
>
> Sorry guys, it was not in my intention to blame
a product that I don't
know.
> I used the wrong wording by saying the
GT PRO one I have "is much better".
> I'd like to correct this
by saying it looks much better and is very, very
> well made. I've seen a
lot stuff and the 2-in-1 piece of the AAM is not
what
> I'd really
like.
>
> Speaking of turbulence beeing a design factor... sorry
where are their
data
> ? No, forget about that stuff, there is no
turbulence problem as this is
an
> important factor in the runners, and
the path down to the chambers. Or
would
> you say that the blade i nthe
TB is not a factor of turbulence ?? And
> speaking of design, the 90°
bend does nothing bad to the flow. Just look
> inside the plenum and
you'll see that any special improvement before the
TB
> is a waste of
resources, money and time. It would be a problem if the 90°
> would
have a sharp edge at the inner radius !
>
> It's good that it is
made of aluminum, light, durable, no corrision and
good
> quality. But
no one can ever proof any performance increasement ! And for
> look ...
I'm not impressed.
>
>
> > The one thing I like about the
AAM pipe is the claim at least that
> > turbulence was a design
factor. No other manufacturers make such
claims,
> > and I
rather doubt any of them actually designed it for reduced
turbulence
>
> other than by the seat of the pants, which can work wonders
depending
upon
> > whose seat is in said
pants.
>
>
>
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Date: Sat, 29 Jan 2000 13:15:52
-0800
From: "Geoff Mohler" <
gemohler@tgn.net>
Subject: Re: Team3S:
New AAM Y-Pipe
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Well, not being an actual designer I dont know for sure, but
I know that CAD
isnt necessarily a fluid dynamics engineering platform.
So to say CAD was
used to study actual performance..is
unlikely.
Turbulence, although an issue, isnt nearly as much of an issue
with a forced
induction car as it is for an N/A, and neither design seems to
be all that
'badly' designed at all.
Before _anybody_ starts talking
performance on this, toss em on a
flowbench..thats the gauntlet im tossin
down. Both will exhibit some loss
because of the bend involved, and Id
like to see the new pipe laying
un-installed as well.
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From: Barry E. King <
beking@home.com>
To: R.G. <
robby@freesurf.ch>; <
LotoBoost@aol.com>;
<
Team3S@stealth-3000gt.st>
Sent:
Friday, January 28, 2000 11:50 PM
Subject: RE: Team3S: New AAM
Y-Pipe
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>
>
> After looking at both pictures, I'd say it is
difficult to say which one
is
> better without comparing them up close
and personal, then testing the same
> car with each of them. Seems
to me to be a toss up.
>
> The one thing I like about the AAM pipe
is the claim at least that
> turbulence was a design factor. No
other manufacturers make such claims,
> and I rather doubt any of them
actually designed it for reduced turbulence
> other than by the seat of
the pants, which can work wonders depending upon
> whose seat is in said
pants.
>
>
> Barry
>
> > -----Original
Message-----
> >
> > Well, neat but, to be honest the GT PRO
y-pipe is much better. Great
> > aluminum, perfect done and even the
same price as AAM. As Shania
> > Twain says
> > : That don't
impresses me much.
> >
> > Roger
> > 93'3000GT
TT
>
>
>
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Date: Sun, 30 Jan 2000 02:23:59
-0700
From: Dave Monarchi <
monarchd@refuge.Colorado.EDU>
Subject:
Team3S: another carparts 1/3rd off coupon..
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Unfortunately I forgot
about this till the last minute again, but in addition
to the other coupons
you may have heard about, here's another.. the bonus on
this one is
that it appears there's no maximum discount, but there is a $150
minimum
purchase.. the bummer is it expires today (1/30)..
btw, for anyone
curious, I got all my stuff from the last order including
the Borla (which is
now on and sounds great!) and plugs at the prices I
mentioned..
take advantage if you can!
http://www.carparts.com/enews/enews1221.aspclick
on the 1/3 off link under coupons.. also, if you do order, keep in
mind
you won't see a discount on individual items.. only the
total..
once again, I have nothing to do with the site, just trying to
help out
fellow 3S owners..
Dave
95 Black 3000GT VR4
87 Mica
Red GTI G60
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