team3s           Thursday, January 27 2000           Volume 01 : Number 038




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Date: Wed, 26 Jan 2000 14:52:43 -0800
From: "Darcy" <w.c.e@home.com>
Subject: Re: Team3S: Ack!  Loud clunk, car won't start, tranny dead?

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Better yet, throw a container or two of baking soda all over the affected
areas and then spray off with water...or better yet, mix baking soda and
water and pour slowly over the area.

Best

Darc


> If it is the battery leaking, spray water on it. That neutralizes the
acid.




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Date: Wed, 26 Jan 2000 15:17:37 -0800 (PST)
From: "Chad Beeder (Syzygy)" <syzygy@eskimo.com>
Subject: Team3S: Re: Ack!  Loud clunk, car won't start, tranny dead? <- Battery Probs?

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On Wed, 26 Jan 2000, Kyle Meyer wrote:

> Sounds like the clicking is the starter/starter solenoid, and that means the
> battery may be low. If you have stuff dripping out around the right front
> wheelwell, that's right where the battery is...

Kyle, thanks for your input.  The car is at the dealership now...  I'd
tend to agree with the battery idea, except that there is clicking noise
coming from the engine when you try to start it too.  Also, the stuff that
was dripping is most certainly oil of some type.  I saw the rainbow
patterns in the puddle it made on the ground.

Hard to tell exactly how much oil dripped out, since it was on the ground.
I'd say maybe a cup or two.  It kept dripping for a while after I shut off
the engine, but eventually stopped.

Dealer says they will look at it tomorrow.  I hope this doesn't end up
costing a fortune.




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Date: Wed, 26 Jan 2000 18:24:17 EST
From: "Dg B" <dbretton@hotmail.com>
Subject: Team3S: Desperately seeking a good mechanic

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Hi folks!

   I am now at wits' end.  I cannot find a good suspension mechanic here in
the Mass/NE area, and am having trouble with my Stealth.
I don't have the time (or warm facilities) to work on the car right now.
If any of you can recommend a good suspension mechanic in the NE area who
can work on an aftermarket suspension w/out fear, PLEASE let me know.  I'm
desperate!

TIA!

Regards,
   Dennis
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Date: Wed, 26 Jan 2000 15:27:28 -0800
From: "Mohler, Jeff" <jeff.mohler@netapp.com>
Subject: RE: Team3S: Ack!  Loud clunk, car won't start, tranny dead?

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Water Neutralizes acid.  Thats neat.

It'll definitly thin it out, but water doesnt neutralize any acids or base
compouinds.

Thinned out battery acid becomes muratic acid..mostly a new name for a thinner
mix of HCl.

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From: Kyle Meyer [mailto:kyle@logicaldirection.com]
Sent: Wednesday, January 26, 2000 2:41 PM
To: team3S@stealth-3000gt.st
Subject: RE: Team3S: Ack! Loud clunk, car won't start, tranny dead?


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Sounds like the clicking is the starter/starter solenoid, and that means the
battery may be low. If you have stuff dripping out around the right front
wheelwell, that's right where the battery is... I just had a battery go bad
the other day and it sprayed acid all over my intake piping, transmission,
side of the engine, the motor mounts, and the frame (eating all the paint
off in the process).

If it is the battery leaking, spray water on it. That neutralizes the acid.
- -Kyle

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From: owner-team3s@stealth-3000gt.st
[mailto:owner-team3s@stealth-3000gt.st]On Behalf Of Chad Beeder
Sent: Wednesday, January 26, 2000 2:55 PM
To: team3S@stealth-3000gt.st
Subject: Team3S: Ack! Loud clunk, car won't start, tranny dead?


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As I turned the key to start my car this morning, I heard a loud *clunk*, so
I got out and looked at the car and noticed there was oil (or maybe
transmission fluid) dripping from near the right front wheel well.  So I
shut the car off and now it won't start at all.  When I turn the key I just
get a loud repeating clicking sound (about 4-5 times a second) and it won't
crank.

Now, I'm pretty clueless when it comes to the mechanics of cars.  I called
the dealer and they tell me that really the only thing in the front right is
the transmission, so I'm wondering if my transmission has blown up.

I'm waiting for a tow to the dealer now.  Anyone had this happen before?

I hadn't really noticed any tranny problems up 'til now other than the usual
synchro stuff (which I'd been mostly avoiding rev-matching on shifts) and a
bit of a lurch sometimes when going from a coast to hitting the gas (though
I've heard this isn't uncommon on our cars either).  The only other thing is
that I'd noticed that when the car was cold in the morning, and I had it
sitting in neutral, I'd get a sort of repetitive grinding sound that went
away if I pushed the clutch in.

Have I fallen victim to the dreaded Getrag problems?  Ack, I really didn't
want to spend a few thousand on a new tranny right now...  :-(  I was hoping
not to have to replace my transmission until the new improved ones were
available that Jack Tertadian is working on...

Thanks,

Chad



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Date: Wed, 26 Jan 2000 18:59:14 -0800
From: "Sam Shelat" <sshelat@erols.com>
Subject: Re: Team3S: Optimum  Tire Pressure

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Always refer to the directions on the tire.

Sam

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From: Merlin916@aol.com <Merlin916@aol.com>
To: Stealth-3000GT <team3s@stealth-3000gt.st>
Date: Monday, January 24, 2000 7:46 PM
Subject: Team3S: Optimum Tire Pressure


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>
>     Anyone know what the optimum tire pressure would be in cold weather
when
>attempting speeds over 100mph?  I noticed in the manual that its
reccomended
>to add pressure when these speeds are desired, but the previous owner of my
>car for some reason removed the sticker on the driver door that states the
>normal optimum pressure.  I have ZR-X  245/45 ZR17's.  According to the
>sidewall, the max load is 44psi.  So where do I want to be?
>
>Joe
>
>93' RT/TT
>
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Date: Wed, 26 Jan 2000 18:30:31 -0600
From: "cody" <overclck@flash.net>
Subject: RE: Team3S: Optimum  Tire Pressure

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Sam, others;

The directions are rarely imprinted on a tire.  Only a maximum pressure, and
usually a statement that says "Do not exceed XX psi when mounting"  I have
personally witnessed over 100 psi in a 18" tire when being mounted (very
scary being close to the tire when it finally pops out)  Anyways,
technically, you are supposed to go with what the car manual says.  But in
reality, trying different pressures is the best way...

Cody





Always refer to the directions on the tire.

Sam



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Date: Wed, 26 Jan 2000 21:12:17 -0600
From: wizards <wizards@mhtc.net>
Subject: Re: Team3S: Ack!  Loud clunk, car won't start, tranny dead?

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That's right, Jeff!   And when it thins it out, or washes it off, it may
get washed onto something else that you don't really want acid to
touch.  Darcy's idea of neutralizing it first with baking soda (a mild
base) is a better suggestion.

Greg



"Mohler, Jeff" wrote:
>
>
> Water Neutralizes acid.  Thats neat.
>
> It'll definitly thin it out, but water doesnt neutralize any acids or base
> compouinds.
>
> Thinned out battery acid becomes muratic acid..mostly a new name for a thinner
> mix of HCl.
>
>


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Date: Wed, 26 Jan 2000 22:39:55 -0500
From: Rick <rick@ceo-consulting.com>
Subject: Team3S: For Sale:Factory Service Manuals

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Hey gang,

Just a quick reminder that if anyone is interested, I have some factory
service manuals for sale for our cars.  I have 2 sets left of the 93
Stealth (covers both turbo and non-turbo models) and 2 sets of the
Laser/Talon manuals for sale.  I would take $30 for each set.  They are
brand new in the plastic (from Mopar) and I think they sell for like $50 or
$60 from the dealer.  These are brand spanking new.  These manuals are NOT
chilton manuals.  These are factory Mopar Service manuals.

***Please respond privately if interested.***  Thanks!

"1 BAD RT"
94 R/T turbo
Pearl Yellow 6 speed




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Date: Thu, 27 Jan 2000 17:25:00 +1300
From: "B Collett" <hcollett@ihug.co.nz>
Subject: Team3S: Air Flow Meter Removal

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I am installing a new computer for my TT 3000GT and want to remove my =
Air Flow meter.=20
Does it control anythimg  alse important in my car that will be effected =
if I remove it??

Thanks=20
Henry


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Date: Thu, 27 Jan 2000 08:01:36 +0100
From: "R.G." <robby@freesurf.ch>
Subject: Re: Team3S: Air Flow Meter Removal

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> I am installing a new computer for my TT 3000GT and want to remove my Air
Flow meter.
> Does it control anythimg  alse important in my car that will be effected
if I remove it??

Your question sounds strange ... very strange.

The Air Flow meter (better said Mass Air Sensor in our case) simply measures
teh air flow and if you remove it the ECU sees no air flow and dies. I gues
this IS somewhat important ... it is essential for a modern engine !!

But what is installing a new computer in your car ? You must describe the
stuff a little bit more specific, otherwise nobody understands what you are
talking about. Are you isntalling an new ECU, A/F controller, or what ??

Roger
93'3000GT TT



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Date: Thu, 27 Jan 2000 06:19:14 -0800
From: "Darcy" <w.c.e@home.com>
Subject: Re: Team3S: Air Flow Meter Removal

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> > I am installing a new computer for my TT 3000GT and want to remove my
Air
> Flow meter.
> > Does it control anythimg  alse important in my car that will be effected
> if I remove it??


If you are referring to the honey comb in the MAS, advice is not to remove
it. Particularly in a TT. A very few have had not had a problem when doing
this on NA but for the most part, this is a performance reduction mode
across the board. Leave it alone and stay happy. If you are referring to
something else, please be a bit more specific.

Best

Darc



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