team3s
Wednesday, January 12
2000 Volume 01 :
Number
021
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Date:
Tue, 11 Jan 2000 21:59:33 -0500
From: Rick <
rick@ceo-consulting.com>
Subject:
Team3S: Stealth R/T twin turbo for sale in south florida
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Hey
Gang,
Just a quick note to let you all know that I am selling my 94 R/T
turbo.
It is Pearl Yellow, 6 speed, etc, etc... 51k miles, super clean
both
inside and out. Not a dent or ding in the entire car. Brand
new 6 speed
trans under warranty less than 2k miles ago. Car is
flawless, needs
nothing.
Here are the mods:
13g turbos
(brand new from heavy industries-Mitsu)
Alamomotorsports (Cartech) high
efficiency intercoolers)
AMS hard pipe kit (with silicone hoses)
Magnecore
wires
G-Force ECU upgrade
HKS Exhaust
Pre-cats hollow, main cat
eliminated (but I have the factory downpipe which
I will of course include
with car)
Greddy Profec B boost controller (cockpit adjustable boost
control)
AFC Fuel controller (also cockpit adjustable
550cc Nippondenso
injectors
plugs new and gapped to .033
A-pillar boost gauge holder with
SPI motorsports boost gauge (yellow face)
& Cyberdyne Air/Fuel
gauge
ATR downpipe (2.5" going into 3" main pipe) NICE PIECE
w/3" flex coupler
K&N Filtercharger
The car has black
leather interior, with infinity sound system. Factory 6
disk changer,
etc... Never smoked in, and clean as a whistle inside.
Removeable
moonroof, factory 17" chrome "Dodge" wheels. Well over
6
thousand in mods.
Asking $17,500. I will consider any
reasonable offer. This car is clean.
I may drop the price if the person
wants it with the stock intercoolers,
stock injectors, etc.. but once
you take a ride in it with the mods, you
won't want me to take them
off. Trust me. :)
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Boca Raton, FL
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Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2000 20:08:58
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From: "Keith Redburn" <
bigdaddy@tisd.net>
Subject: Team3S:
Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2000 22:09:10 -0600
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Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2000 22:57:17
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From: "Brad Bedell" <
Bbedell@austin.rr.com>
Subject:
Team3S: FMIC for sale
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Hey everyone, I'm going to sell my prototype Front
mount intercooler.
I know it works with the 99 front end and the 92
front end now.
Please note that the kit does require modification to the
car. I'll take
pictures of the intercooler, pipes etc. Figuring
out how to install it on
your car will be your problem, not mine.
Some
plumbing will need to be made, but I'll furnish all that I can,
basically
you're buying a partial kit. Be ready to do some minor fab
work.
I'm asking 500.00 shipped for everything that I have. I
can furnish better
pictures than are on my web site when I get the front
bumper off the car.
(I am upgrading to a larger core with aluminum
pipes)
Also for sale: Alamo Intercooler kit, the kit has all
the pipes, but may
need some minor 90degree brackets made. The pipes
had water in them, so
they will need to be cleaned out. I'll take any
reasonable offers on the
Intercoolers. More than 250.00 is
reasonable.
Brad
Check out my home page:
http://home.austin.rr.com/overboost/E-Mail:
bbedell@austin.rr.com ICQ#
3612682
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Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2000 23:08:42
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From: Rah <
rah@isd.net>
Subject: Team3S: Couple of
Concerns
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Hey all,
I bought a 93 R/T TT a
couple months ago, the car has been great but
there are a couple things
concerning me...
First off, a side note, the first time I
looked at the car the old
owner let me try driving it, then he took me for a
'performance run' of
sorts, now after that there was a little smoke/steam or
something
pouring out of the drivers-side front fender, but this wasn't
something
we could ever get to happen again.
Now, the
things I noticed was that if the clutch is down at higher
RPMs, something I
try to avoid, but hey it happens, I will have a really
strong, really bad
smell coming from under the hood around the car. I
can redline it and
all, only time the smell shows up is when the clutch
is
involved.
Second, it's colder nowadays here in MN, and it
seems like it smells
a little gassy when it's been sitting for a while,
in the cold anyway.
Another thing, don't know if it's related or not, but in
the mornings
after being in a garage all night(decent temp), I drive to where
I need
to be and if I am to rev it or anything, my friend(usually standing
near
the back of the car) claims to get blown away by the smell or
exhaust or
whatever when I do that.
I apprecite your help, I
haven't taken it in yet to be looked at or
anything, but with my 7 year
bumper-to-bumper running out next month I
probably will soon.
-
--Rich
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Date: Wed, 12 Jan 2000 05:47:31
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From: "Dave Holden" <
dholden@deadkenny.northern-lights.bc.ca>
Subject:
Team3S: Reliant in the elevens????
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Sorry for this non-techie post.
But you should check this guy's Reliant K
car out at
http://idt.net/~gdonovan/index.html.
This guy has timeslips from
Atco Raceway for mid-11 second passes with
it. Contains some interesting
information about turbos and
intercoolers. This fella puts most of the
TT/VR4 people on this list to
shame. Remember to stay humble folks!
Regards,
Dave
Holden
Pearl White '91 R/T (Still broke and now I'm on Toronto for a
week)
Vancouver, BC
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Date: Wed, 12 Jan 2000 09:39:41
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From: Matt Jannusch <
MAJ@BigCharts.com>
Subject: Team3S:
OBD-II tool for '95?
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Has anyone tried the tool from
http://www.obd-2.com on a '95 3/S? Is it
compatible enough to datalog simple things like O2 sensor readings and
timing? I know the '95 cars have a somewhat "hybrid" design
between the old OBD and new, but have no idea what works between years.
-
-Matt
'95 3000GT Spyder VR4
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Date: Wed, 12 Jan 2000 17:23:21
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From: "Tim DeKeyser" <
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Subject:
Re: Team3S: Couple of Concerns
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The clutch needs replacing. Thats the
smell.
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From: Rah <
rah@isd.net>
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rah@isd.netTo: stealth <
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Subject:
Team3S: Couple of Concerns
Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2000 23:08:42
-0600
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Hey all,
I bought a 93 R/T
TT a couple months ago, the car has been great but
there are a couple
things concerning me...
First off, a side note, the
first time I looked at the car the old
owner let me try driving it, then he
took me for a 'performance run' of
sorts, now after that there was a little
smoke/steam or something
pouring out of the drivers-side front fender, but
this wasn't something
we could ever get to happen
again.
Now, the things I noticed was that if the
clutch is down at higher
RPMs, something I try to avoid, but hey it happens,
I will have a really
strong, really bad smell coming from under the hood
around the car. I
can redline it and all, only time the smell shows up
is when the clutch
is involved.
Second, it's
colder nowadays here in MN, and it seems like it smells
a little gassy
when it's been sitting for a while, in the cold anyway.
Another thing, don't
know if it's related or not, but in the mornings
after being in a garage all
night(decent temp), I drive to where I need
to be and if I am to rev it or
anything, my friend(usually standing near
the back of the car) claims to
get blown away by the smell or exhaust or
whatever when I do
that.
I apprecite your help, I haven't taken it in yet to be looked at
or
anything, but with my 7 year bumper-to-bumper running out next month
I
probably will soon.
- --Rich
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Date: Wed, 12 Jan 2000 09:59:28
-0800
From: "Bob Forrest" <
bf@bobforrest.com>
Subject: Re:
Team3S: Reliant in the 11's? Off-Topic...
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- -----Original Message-----From:
Dave Holden
<
dholden@deadkenny.northern-lights.bc.ca>
>Sorry
for this non-techie post. But you should check this guy's
Reliant
K
>car out at
http://idt.net/~gdonovan/index.html.
This guy has
timeslips from
>Atco Raceway for mid-11 second passes with
it. Contains some
interesting
>information about turbos and
intercoolers. This fella puts most of
the
>TT/VR4 people on this
list to shame. Remember to stay humble
folks!
Anything that
has tech information, or directs us to where we can't
find it IS a technical
post, and appropriate for the Team3S list.
These kinds of posts are best
identified in the subject line as
"Off-Topic", as above, just to
let folks know it's a peripheral
concept... And the guy's turbo/IC info
is an interesting reference
point for us.
But there are always going
to be faster cars than ours,
*somewhere* - anytime you strap "a Vette
engine to a skateboard"
(read: Honda) the car will be fast.
Possibly even faster than one
of our cars, if you keep it pointing in a
straight line. But put my
car to shame??? I don't think so!
That's why we prefer not to
encourage list discussions about every little
piece of junk out
there (that may or may not be faster than a 3S).
I
don't need to be humble-- I own a Stealth. :-)
{Admin soapbox mode
- off... :-) Please reply privately to
discontinue this
thread...}
Best,
Forrest
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Date: Wed, 12 Jan 2000 12:02:53
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From: "Trevor L. James" <
trevor@kscable.com>
Subject: Re:
Team3S: OBD-II tool for '95?
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Dude, that's AWESOME!!! It's like $122 and it
comes with the connector you need and it supposedly reads our data stream! Only
thing that's missing is a knock retard measurement. Heck, that's the whole
reason I want a scan tool! I wrote the guy that made it and asked him
to
incorporate a knock retard measurement. I'll post the
results....
Trevor
96 Stealth R/T TT
92 GMC Typhoon
Matt
Jannusch wrote:
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>
> Has anyone tried the tool from
http://www.obd-2.com on a '95 3/S? Is it
compatible enough to datalog simple things like O2 sensor readings and
timing? I know the '95 cars have a somewhat "hybrid" design
between the old OBD and new, but have no idea what works between
years.
>
> -Matt
> '95 3000GT Spyder VR4
>
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#21
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team3s
Wednesday, January 12
2000 Volume 01 :
Number
022
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Date:
Wed, 12 Jan 2000 10:09:19 -0800
From: "Darcy" <
w.c.e@home.com>
Subject: Re: Team3S:
Couple of Concerns
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Hi Tim;
Sounds like the clutch is marginal. You
will get a little clutch smell if
you are running it aggressively, but if
it's showing up under normal
conditions, then it's time to replace it. Often
in this situation, it is
also best to replace the flywheel for an additional
$100, as many have
lamented not doing this later when told at the time it
appeared with specs.
It cannot be resurfaced.
What do you mean a
"gassy" smell? As in petroleum? As in passed gas? What?
If
it's foul smell it may be related to the cats and not really a worry.
If
petroleum, it may be injector related. Run a quality Injector
Cleaner
through it (gas tank additive). Many do not ever add this to their
fillups,
and in the long run this will simply mean having to have the
injectors
professionally done as they plug up.
Best
Darc
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From: Tim DeKeyser <
tdekeyser@hotmail.com>
To:
Team3S@stealth-3000gt.st <
Team3S@stealth-3000gt.st>
Date:
Wednesday, January 12, 2000 9:38 AM
Subject: Re: Team3S: Couple of
Concerns
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info.***
>
>
>The clutch needs replacing. Thats the
smell.
>
>
>----Original Message Follows----
>From: Rah
<
rah@isd.net>
>Reply-To:
rah@isd.net>To: stealth <
Team3S@stealth-3000gt.st>
>Subject:
Team3S: Couple of Concerns
>Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2000 23:08:42
-0600
>
>***This is the NEW Team3S list. See message end for more
info.***
>
>
>
>Hey all,
>
I bought a 93 R/T TT a couple months ago, the car has been great
but
>
>there are a couple things concerning
me...
> First off, a side note, the first time I
looked at the car the old
>owner let me try driving it, then he took me
for a 'performance run' of
>sorts, now after that there was a little
smoke/steam or something
>pouring out of the drivers-side front fender,
but this wasn't something
>we could ever get to happen
again.
> Now, the things I noticed was that if the
clutch is down at higher
>RPMs, something I try to avoid, but hey it
happens, I will have a really
>
>strong, really bad smell coming
from under the hood around the car. I
>can redline it and all, only
time the smell shows up is when the clutch
>is
involved.
> Second, it's colder nowadays here in
MN, and it seems like it smells
>
>a little gassy when it's been
sitting for a while, in the cold anyway.
>Another thing, don't know if
it's related or not, but in the mornings
>after being in a garage all
night(decent temp), I drive to where I need
>to be and if I am to rev it
or anything, my friend(usually standing near
>
>the back of the car)
claims to get blown away by the smell or exhaust or
>
>whatever when
I do that.
>
>I apprecite your help, I haven't taken it in yet to be
looked at or
>anything, but with my 7 year bumper-to-bumper running out
next month I
>probably will
soon.
>
>--Rich
>
>
>
>
>
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Date: Wed, 12 Jan 2000 19:20:03
+0100
From: "R.G." <
robby@freesurf.ch>
Subject: Re:
Team3S: OBD-II tool for '95?
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To specify what Trevor meant there is no
display of knock sum and I wonder why ??? The timing will be retarded when there
is knock and therefore it may be visible for an experienced user ! An amount of
how much the timign is retarded in degrees may be wishful but not
common.
Hope this is THE tuning tool for the 2nd geners
!
Roger
93'3000GT TT
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From: Trevor L. James <
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To: Matt Jannusch
<
MAJ@BigCharts.com>; <
Team3S@stealth-3000gt.st>
Sent:
Wednesday, January 12, 2000 7:02 PM
Subject: Re: Team3S: OBD-II tool for
'95?
> ***This is the NEW Team3S list. See message end for more
info.***
>
>
> Dude, that's AWESOME!!! It's like $122 and it
comes with the connector you need and it supposedly reads our data stream! Only
thing that's missing is a knock retard measurement. Heck, that's the whole
reason I want a scan tool! I wrote the guy that made it and asked him to
>
incorporate a knock retard measurement. I'll post the
results....
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Date: Wed, 12 Jan 2000 10:42:13
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From: Ken Middaugh <
Kenneth.Middaugh@gat.com>
Subject:
Re: Team3S: OBD-II tool for '95?
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Matt Jannusch wrote:
>
>
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>
> Has anyone tried the tool from
http://www.obd-2.com on a '95 3/S? Is it
compatible enough to datalog simple things like O2 sensor readings and
timing? I know the '95 cars have a somewhat "hybrid" design
between the old OBD and new, but have no idea what works between years.
I
didn't see any mention on their web site that would indicate it works with
any
pre '96 car. Did I miss anything?
- --
If you're not the
lead car, your view never changes!
Ken Middaugh (858) 455-4510
General
Atomics
San Diego
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Date: Wed, 12 Jan 2000 13:55:11
-0600
From: Merritt <
merritt@cedar-rapids.net>
Subject:
Team3S: Found 91 Stealth TT for $7888
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I was driving home from lunch with my
ROWG buddies today, and spotted a 91
Stealth TT at Jim Miller Nissan Subaru
in Cedar Rapids, Iowa..
It's black, tan interior, has 102,000 miles, new
tires, and appears to be
in pretty good shape. The usual nicks and wear, of
course, that you would
expect in a nine-year old car. It's not a concours
show winner by any
means, but it's not trashed either. Just nine years
old. No signs of
performance mods -- it even has the original air
cleaner. Price is $7888.
If interested, call the salesman, Nathan Johnson
at 319/393-0640
Rich/old poop/94 VR4/make a nice start on a racer,
eh?
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Date: Wed, 12 Jan 2000 12:44:55
-0800
From: Raymond Yap <
raymond.yap@stanford.edu>
Subject:
Team3S: car won't start
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This may seem like a strange problem but after i
installed my profec A
last sat and started running on higher boost (1 bar
max), my car would
not start 2 days ago (tue). it won't even crank, and its
NOT a battery
problem. anyway, i figured that it was probably a starter
problem and
got it down to the mechanic who changed the starter. The car
worked okay
for a while yesterday, but this morning, i met with exactly the
same
problem again. Well, could be that the starter the mechanic put it
was
faulty, or some other problem ??? any experience/advice on this would
be
much appreciated..
raymond.
'91 black vr-4
kipn
filter
super afc
greddy profec a
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Date: Wed, 12 Jan 2000 20:54:13
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From: "Tim DeKeyser" <
tdekeyser@hotmail.com>
Subject:
Re: Team3S: car won't start
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We had this discussion last week, because my
car had a similar problem.
Everyone told me that it is the ignition switch.
Try clicking it to 'start'
several times, and see if it catches. I wish I
knew this after replacing the
starter 3 times!
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Message Follows----
From: Raymond Yap <
raymond.yap@stanford.edu>
Reply-To:
raymond.yap@stanford.eduTo:
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Team3S: car won't start
Date: Wed, 12 Jan 2000 12:44:55 -0800
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This may
seem like a strange problem but after i installed my profec A
last sat and
started running on higher boost (1 bar max), my car would
not start 2 days
ago (tue). it won't even crank, and its NOT a battery
problem. anyway, i
figured that it was probably a starter problem and
got it down to the
mechanic who changed the starter. The car worked okay
for a while yesterday,
but this morning, i met with exactly the same
problem again. Well, could be
that the starter the mechanic put it was
faulty, or some other problem ???
any experience/advice on this would be
much
appreciated..
raymond.
'91 black vr-4
kipn filter
super
afc
greddy profec a
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Date: Wed, 12 Jan 2000 16:43:04
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From: "Trevor L. James" <
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Subject: Re:
Team3S: OBD-II tool for '95?
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Yeah, I noticed that it had current spark
advance. They might have knock retard already figured into that measurement. I
wouldn't think that would be the best way to do it. Personally I don't want to
guess at my knock amount, I want hard numbers. I've got a scan tool for
the
Typhoon and it's a god send. Do you have one for the Z-28 yet Roger ;-)It
has a measurement for both spark advance and knock retard.
I didn't see
anything on there about 95's but it would be worth it to buy it and give it a
try. You could sell it to someone with a 96+ for like $90 if it didn't work. I
played around with that program for awhile and if it works as advertised it will
fit my needs perfectly (as
long as knock gets added). It has all the other
stuff that might be needed like:
Mass Air Flow rates
Inlet Air
Temp
Spark Advance
RPM
MPH
O2 Readings (both upper and lower
sensors)
Coolant Temp
Throttle Position Sensor
%
Trevor
"R.G." wrote:
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> To specify what
Trevor meant there is no display of knock sum and I wonder why ??? The timing
will be retarded when there is knock and therefore it may be visible for an
experienced user ! An amount of how much the timign is retarded in degrees may
be wishful but not common.
>
> Hope this is THE tuning tool for the
2nd geners !
>
> Roger
> 93'3000GT TT
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Date: Wed, 12 Jan 2000 17:36:56
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From: "John T. Christian" <
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Subject:
Team3S: Re: Adventures in braking
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Hi all,
Ol Poop wrote:
>If
none of the under-fascia stuff works {for brake cooling}, then I'll try taking
out the fog lights.
- --> A long time ago I took out the fog lights ......
well actually when
my TT would up ontop of a tire wall near turn 10, along
with other
damage, one of the lights was GONE and the other one was hanging
out.
So rather than spending $165 each I decided to put screens in
the
openings and allow another source of cooool air to reach
my
intercoolers.
>Hey, what's with all the CCs I see we're
carrying around? Do we have a
little braking/road racing sub-list going
here? Maximum cool.
- -->A sublist would be great. I just thought
there would be toooo many
words for posting on the 3S. I think there
are now about a dozen Team
3S members that road race and I have been
collecting their addresses.
- -->I believe I saw a post that we,
3Sers, can have a HomePage on the new
3S server. If so I plan to put on
a lot of the stuff like brakes,
tires, trailers, etc I found that
work/doesn't work from my racing
experiences.
Be of good
cheer,
John
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Date: Wed, 12 Jan 2000 14:58:07
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Subject:
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Date: Wed, 12 Jan 2000 17:04:39
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From: "Trevor L. James" <
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Subject: Team3S:
RE: OBD-II tool for '95?
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Well, he wrote back and said this:
The scan
tool does support ignition timing advance and retard.
this is data item $0E
spark advance.
I guess he means that the spark advance that's listed is
total timing. I.E. Base Advance minus Knock Retard. I wrote him back and asked
if he could separate the two numbers. It's also possible that OBDII supplies
only that one total spark advance data stream...More to
follow...
Trevor
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Date: Wed, 12 Jan 2000 18:40:49
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From: "Jeff" <
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Subject: Re:
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Reposting.....
jeff
'95 Mitsubishi
Spyder VR-4
'90 Mitsubishi Eclipse GSX
- ----- Original Message
-----
From: "Jeff" <
spydervr4@home.com>
To:
"Sirius" <
stealth-3000gt@list.sirius.com>
Sent:
Wednesday, January 12, 2000 12:36 PM
Subject: Re: Team3S: OBD-II tool for
'95?
> Here are the answers:
>
> 1) It will work
on '96+ cars and the rare '95 cars that are OBDII
certified
> 2)
It will not work on '94-95 hybrid cars
> 3) He can't add a knock
sum. There's no such thing in the OBDII
> specification. Knock
sum is a "hidden" feature of the early-mid 90's
> Mitsubishi
ECUs. It doesn't even appear on DRB scanners; just on the TMO
>
datalogger.
>
> I tried the EASESim OBDII datalogger a long time ago
on my Spyder and it
> couldn't establish a connection on any of the OBDII
protocols. The car
has
> an OBDII connector and all the other
OBDII hardware (o2 sensors) but it is
> OBDI certified and the protocols
are not compatible.
>
> jeff
> '95 Mitsubishi Spyder
VR-4
> '90 Mitsubishi Eclipse GSX
>
>
> ----- Original
Message -----
> From: "Trevor L. James" <
trevor@kscable.com>
> To:
"Matt Jannusch" <
MAJ@BigCharts.com>; <
Team3S@stealth-3000gt.st>
>
Sent: Wednesday, January 12, 2000 12:02 PM
> Subject: Re: Team3S: OBD-II
tool for '95?
>
>
> > Dude, that's AWESOME!!! It's like
$122 and it comes with the connector
you
> need and it supposedly reads
our data stream! Only thing that's missing is
a
> knock retard
measurement. Heck, that's the whole reason I want a scan
tool!
> I
wrote the guy that made it and asked him to
> > incorporate a knock
retard measurement. I'll post the results....
> >
> >
Trevor
> > 96 Stealth R/T TT
> > 92 GMC Typhoon
>
>
> > Matt Jannusch wrote:
> >
> > > Has anyone
tried the tool from
http://www.obd-2.com on a
'95 3/S? Is
it
> compatible enough to datalog simple things like
O2 sensor readings and
> timing? I know the '95 cars have a somewhat
"hybrid" design between the
old
> OBD and new, but have no
idea what works between years.
> > >
> > > -Matt
>
> > '95 3000GT Spyder VR4
>
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