Team3S             Wednesday, June 6 2001             Volume 01 : Number 512




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Date: Wed, 6 Jun 2001 12:09:01 -0400
From: "Joshua G. Prince" <joshua@unconundrum.com>
Subject: RE: Team3S: Transmission Upgrade

What is the contact info for Kormex?  I may be in needed up the upgraded
synchros.  Thanks


Joshua Prince
97 1/2 Fly Yellow Hummer Convertible
3SI#0136
Microsoft Certified System Engineer
Joshua@Unconundrum.com

 -----Original Message-----
From: Floyd, Jim [mailto:Jim_Floyd@maxtor.com]
Sent: Wednesday, June 06, 2001 12:04 PM
To: 'Richard'
Cc: Team3S (E-mail)
Subject: RE: Team3S: Transmission Upgrade

Rich,

The last E-mail I saw from Jack T. he said he was not doing
anything
on our transmissions.
Do you know about Kormex ?

Jim

- -----Original Message-----
From: Richard [mailto:radanc@home.com]
Sent: Tuesday, June 05, 2001 5:23 PM
Cc: Team3S (E-mail)
Subject: Team3S: Transmission Upgrade


Searching the old posts it seemed like Jack T was working on an upgrade
to the Getrag tranny. Jack or anyone out there anyone know of anything
that exists or anyone capable of doing this. I think this is worth some
effort since this seems to be the weak link in the drive train once you
upgrade the standard parts. I can't see the value of going through
multiple getrag trannys if this could be done. Any information or tips
would be appreciated.


Rich
92 Stealth TT

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Date: Wed, 6 Jun 2001 10:20:12 -0600
From: "Floyd, Jim" <Jim_Floyd@maxtor.com>
Subject: RE: Team3S: Transmission Upgrade

Joshua,

Try this:

KORMEX@earthlink.net

Jim

- -----Original Message-----
From: Joshua G. Prince [mailto:joshua@unconundrum.com]
Sent: Wednesday, June 06, 2001 10:09 AM
To: Floyd, Jim; Richard
Cc: Team3S (E-mail)
Subject: RE: Team3S: Transmission Upgrade


What is the contact info for Kormex?  I may be in needed up the upgraded
synchros.  Thanks


Joshua Prince
97 1/2 Fly Yellow Hummer Convertible
3SI#0136
Microsoft Certified System Engineer
Joshua@Unconundrum.com

 -----Original Message-----
From: Floyd, Jim [mailto:Jim_Floyd@maxtor.com]
Sent: Wednesday, June 06, 2001 12:04 PM
To: 'Richard'
Cc: Team3S (E-mail)
Subject: RE: Team3S: Transmission Upgrade

Rich,

The last E-mail I saw from Jack T. he said he was not doing
anything
on our transmissions.
Do you know about Kormex ?

Jim

- -----Original Message-----
From: Richard [mailto:radanc@home.com]
Sent: Tuesday, June 05, 2001 5:23 PM
Cc: Team3S (E-mail)
Subject: Team3S: Transmission Upgrade


Searching the old posts it seemed like Jack T was working on an upgrade
to the Getrag tranny. Jack or anyone out there anyone know of anything
that exists or anyone capable of doing this. I think this is worth some
effort since this seems to be the weak link in the drive train once you
upgrade the standard parts. I can't see the value of going through
multiple getrag trannys if this could be done. Any information or tips
would be appreciated.


Rich
92 Stealth TT

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Date: Wed, 06 Jun 2001 12:25:13 -0400
From: Steve Petry <sjpsys@rit.edu>
Subject: RE: Team3S: BOV, "gas smell", etc.  Part II

For what it is worth, I have the same problem with a 91 3000GT TT, I get a
weird chemical smell, not like gas but close. I was told the Brake Booster
is the problem.  I also notice that when I am at FULL BOOST, if I quickly
hit the brake pedal it feels very hard to press down, like there is a force
holding it there, it olnly last a second or two, and then the brake pedal is
normal to push down.  This only happens if I hit full boost, otherwise the
brakes work flawlessly.

My Mechanic said it was a part called the brake booster, and this would also
account for the chemical / gas smell I get with Full boost.

Steve
'91 3000Gt TT
'91 944S2
'84 944 Lux

- -----Original Message-----
From: owner-team3s@stealth-3000gt.st
[mailto:owner-team3s@stealth-3000gt.st]On Behalf Of Roger Gerl (RTEC)
Sent: Thursday, May 31, 2001 6:40 PM
To: team3S@stealth-3000gt.st
Subject: Re: Team3S: BOV, "gas smell", etc. Part II

Upon your testings I'd say everything is just perfect and should be as it
is.

It is indeed possible that some of the gas fumes will be able to travel
backwards so it will be vented by the BOV. I had the HKS on my car several
months and never noticed that smell but that was just my car.

Regarding venting back, yes the Greddy does as well the 1st gen BPV from the
DSMs do. I do like the Greddy and it is high pressure profen but it is
somewhat expensive for what you get. The rich condition a BOV produces is
somewhat more noticeable under hot ambient conditions as the cars tries to
run somewhat richer (strange but the datalogger showed this, maybe it ries
to cool the engine with more fuel).

Attaching a large hose to the HKS... why not, but it will probably look a
little bit strange.

Roger
93'3000GT TT
www.rtec.ch

> Based on the above and the fact that car is running well (extremely
smooth,
> strong, etc.), I'm guessing [hoping?!?] that there's nothing seriously
wrong
> with the car.
>
> Anybody have any comments on BOVs that vent to atmosphere vs. BOVs that
vent
> back to the intake?  Think it's worth it to spring [haha, I'm so punny
<g>]
> for a BOV that vents back to the intake?  I know the GReddy one does...
> What about strapping a hose to the front of the HKS BOV and routing it
back
> to the stock BOV-intake location?

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Date: Wed, 06 Jun 2001 14:49:05 -0400
From: Ken Stanton <tt007ken@yahoo.com>
Subject: Team3S: TTurbo: Stutter / Low boost

Hi everyone...

I'm having some troubles with my '91 Stealth TT, here is what I've
found...

When making throttle transistions in the vacuum range (20 - 0 mmHg), the
car stumbles/stutters quite badly.
Under boost, the car runs smoothly, but will not push the _stock_ gauge
to the max 14psi.  (I'm aware of its accuracy)
It is intermittent, and does it cold/warm, low speed/high speed.
It is EXTREME when at low RPM's - try 1/2 throttle at 2k-2.5k rpm, the
car makes a thunderous, shaking stutter
60k maintenance just performed, problem existed before/after work
(plugs, wires, timing, fuel filter, thermostat, etc)

With a Snap-On Scantool, I determined that one of the O2 sensors is
reading flat lean (45mV).  Before replacing it however, I am weary since
the car acts this way both hot and cold.

Any and all assistance greatly appreciated!

Ken Stanton
'91 Pearl White Stealth R/T TT
Organizer - 3SI Rochester (NY)

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Date: Wed, 6 Jun 2001 14:20:54 -0500
From: "Willis, Charles E." <cewillis@TexasChildrensHospital.org>
Subject: RE: Team3S: BOV, "gas smell", etc.  Part II

Weird chemical smells are often associated with brake pads, but don't think
I've ever heard of a connection with the brake booster.  The brake booster
is like the clutch booster, a seal vacuum system that makes pushing the
master cylinder easier.  If the pedal is initially hard to push, maybe you
have a leak in the brake booster hoses, or in the booster diaphram itself. 

By the way, what is "full boost"?

Chuck

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Steve Petry [SMTP:sjpsys@rit.edu]
> Sent: Wednesday, June 06, 2001 11:25 AM
> To: Roger Gerl (RTEC); team3S@stealth-3000gt.st
> Subject: RE: Team3S: BOV, "gas smell", etc.  Part II
>
> For what it is worth, I have the same problem with a 91 3000GT TT, I get a
> weird chemical smell, not like gas but close. I was told the Brake Booster
> is the problem.  I also notice that when I am at FULL BOOST, if I quickly
> hit the brake pedal it feels very hard to press down, like there is a
> force
> holding it there, it olnly last a second or two, and then the brake pedal
> is
> normal to push down.  This only happens if I hit full boost, otherwise the
> brakes work flawlessly.
>
> My Mechanic said it was a part called the brake booster, and this would
> also
> account for the chemical / gas smell I get with Full boost.
>
> Steve
> '91 3000Gt TT
> '91 944S2
> '84 944 Lux
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-team3s@stealth-3000gt.st
> [mailto:owner-team3s@stealth-3000gt.st]On Behalf Of Roger Gerl (RTEC)
> Sent: Thursday, May 31, 2001 6:40 PM
> To: team3S@stealth-3000gt.st
> Subject: Re: Team3S: BOV, "gas smell", etc. Part II
>
> Upon your testings I'd say everything is just perfect and should be as it
> is.
>
> It is indeed possible that some of the gas fumes will be able to travel
> backwards so it will be vented by the BOV. I had the HKS on my car several
> months and never noticed that smell but that was just my car.
>
> Regarding venting back, yes the Greddy does as well the 1st gen BPV from
> the
> DSMs do. I do like the Greddy and it is high pressure profen but it is
> somewhat expensive for what you get. The rich condition a BOV produces is
> somewhat more noticeable under hot ambient conditions as the cars tries to
> run somewhat richer (strange but the datalogger showed this, maybe it ries
> to cool the engine with more fuel).
>
> Attaching a large hose to the HKS... why not, but it will probably look a
> little bit strange.
>
> Roger
> 93'3000GT TT
> www.rtec.ch
>
> > Based on the above and the fact that car is running well (extremely
> smooth,
> > strong, etc.), I'm guessing [hoping?!?] that there's nothing seriously
> wrong
> > with the car.
> >
> > Anybody have any comments on BOVs that vent to atmosphere vs. BOVs that
> vent
> > back to the intake?  Think it's worth it to spring [haha, I'm so punny
> <g>]
> > for a BOV that vents back to the intake?  I know the GReddy one does...
> > What about strapping a hose to the front of the HKS BOV and routing it
> back
> > to the stock BOV-intake location?

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Date: Wed, 6 Jun 2001 14:35:31 -0500
From: "Willis, Charles E." <cewillis@TexasChildrensHospital.org>
Subject: RE: Team3S: TTurbo: Stutter / Low boost

How does your vacuum tubing look?  Is it getting old and brittle looking? 

What makes the car run lean? - too much air from leaks or not enough fuel.
You said the fuel filter was changed.  I'm suspicious of a mammoth air leak
someplace.

Chuck
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Ken Stanton [SMTP:tt007ken@yahoo.com]
> Sent: Wednesday, June 06, 2001 1:49 PM
> To: Team3S Stealth
> Subject: Team3S: TTurbo: Stutter / Low boost
>
> Hi everyone...
>
> I'm having some troubles with my '91 Stealth TT, here is what I've
> found...
>
> When making throttle transistions in the vacuum range (20 - 0 mmHg), the
> car stumbles/stutters quite badly.
> Under boost, the car runs smoothly, but will not push the _stock_ gauge
> to the max 14psi.  (I'm aware of its accuracy)
> It is intermittent, and does it cold/warm, low speed/high speed.
> It is EXTREME when at low RPM's - try 1/2 throttle at 2k-2.5k rpm, the
> car makes a thunderous, shaking stutter
> 60k maintenance just performed, problem existed before/after work
> (plugs, wires, timing, fuel filter, thermostat, etc)
>
> With a Snap-On Scantool, I determined that one of the O2 sensors is
> reading flat lean (45mV).  Before replacing it however, I am weary since
> the car acts this way both hot and cold.
>
> Any and all assistance greatly appreciated!
>
> Ken Stanton
> '91 Pearl White Stealth R/T TT
> Organizer - 3SI Rochester (NY)

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Date: Wed, 06 Jun 2001 15:42:15 -0400
From: Ken Stanton <tt007ken@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: Team3S: TTurbo: Stutter / Low boost

Yeah, my thoughts too.. but since it was only the one bank (front/rear), it
really baffled me.   Could it be a turbo going???  Hmmm..

Ken

"Willis, Charles E." wrote:

> How does your vacuum tubing look?  Is it getting old and brittle looking?
>
> What makes the car run lean? - too much air from leaks or not enough fuel.
> You said the fuel filter was changed.  I'm suspicious of a mammoth air leak
> someplace.
>
> Chuck
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Ken Stanton [SMTP:tt007ken@yahoo.com]
> > Sent: Wednesday, June 06, 2001 1:49 PM
> > To:   Team3S Stealth
> > Subject:      Team3S: TTurbo: Stutter / Low boost
> >
> > Hi everyone...
> >
> > I'm having some troubles with my '91 Stealth TT, here is what I've
> > found...
> >
> > When making throttle transistions in the vacuum range (20 - 0 mmHg), the
> > car stumbles/stutters quite badly.
> > Under boost, the car runs smoothly, but will not push the _stock_ gauge
> > to the max 14psi.  (I'm aware of its accuracy)
> > It is intermittent, and does it cold/warm, low speed/high speed.
> > It is EXTREME when at low RPM's - try 1/2 throttle at 2k-2.5k rpm, the
> > car makes a thunderous, shaking stutter
> > 60k maintenance just performed, problem existed before/after work
> > (plugs, wires, timing, fuel filter, thermostat, etc)
> >
> > With a Snap-On Scantool, I determined that one of the O2 sensors is
> > reading flat lean (45mV).  Before replacing it however, I am weary since
> > the car acts this way both hot and cold.
> >
> > Any and all assistance greatly appreciated!
> >
> > Ken Stanton
> > '91 Pearl White Stealth R/T TT
> > Organizer - 3SI Rochester (NY)

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Date: Wed, 6 Jun 2001 12:38:12 -0700
From: "Bob Forrest" <bf@bobforrest.com>
Subject: Re: Team3S: Transmission Upgrade

> What is the contact info for Kormex?  I may be in needed up the upgraded
synchros.  Thanks
>
> Joshua Prince
- -------------------------------

All the Kormex info is on the Team3S FAQ pages, under "Basics": "Sources for
New & Used Replacement Parts".  www.Team3S.com/FAQ.htm

Best,

Forrest

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Date: Wed, 6 Jun 2001 15:04:55 -0500
From: "Willis, Charles E." <cewillis@TexasChildrensHospital.org>
Subject: RE: Team3S: TTurbo: Stutter / Low boost

How about an air leak in only one of the two intercooler circuits? Maybe
even a hole punched in one of the intercoolers.

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Ken Stanton [SMTP:tt007ken@yahoo.com]
> Sent: Wednesday, June 06, 2001 2:42 PM
> To: Willis, Charles E.
> Cc: Team3S Stealth
> Subject: Re: Team3S: TTurbo: Stutter / Low boost
>
> Yeah, my thoughts too.. but since it was only the one bank (front/rear),
> it
> really baffled me.   Could it be a turbo going???  Hmmm..
>
> Ken
>
> "Willis, Charles E." wrote:
>
> > How does your vacuum tubing look?  Is it getting old and brittle
> looking?
> >
> > What makes the car run lean? - too much air from leaks or not enough
> fuel.
> > You said the fuel filter was changed.  I'm suspicious of a mammoth air
> leak
> > someplace.
> >
> > Chuck
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Ken Stanton [SMTP:tt007ken@yahoo.com]
> > > Sent: Wednesday, June 06, 2001 1:49 PM
> > > To:   Team3S Stealth
> > > Subject:      Team3S: TTurbo: Stutter / Low boost
> > >
> > > Hi everyone...
> > >
> > > I'm having some troubles with my '91 Stealth TT, here is what I've
> > > found...
> > >
> > > When making throttle transistions in the vacuum range (20 - 0 mmHg),
> the
> > > car stumbles/stutters quite badly.
> > > Under boost, the car runs smoothly, but will not push the _stock_
> gauge
> > > to the max 14psi.  (I'm aware of its accuracy)
> > > It is intermittent, and does it cold/warm, low speed/high speed.
> > > It is EXTREME when at low RPM's - try 1/2 throttle at 2k-2.5k rpm, the
> > > car makes a thunderous, shaking stutter
> > > 60k maintenance just performed, problem existed before/after work
> > > (plugs, wires, timing, fuel filter, thermostat, etc)
> > >
> > > With a Snap-On Scantool, I determined that one of the O2 sensors is
> > > reading flat lean (45mV).  Before replacing it however, I am weary
> since
> > > the car acts this way both hot and cold.
> > >
> > > Any and all assistance greatly appreciated!
> > >
> > > Ken Stanton
> > > '91 Pearl White Stealth R/T TT
> > > Organizer - 3SI Rochester (NY)

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Date: Wed, 6 Jun 2001 13:24:56 -0700
From: Robert Koch <rakoch.bmd@primusint.com>
Subject: Team3S: RE: ABS brake problem

I have an intermittent problem with my ABS, It would appear that my brakes come and go.
As the dash light comes on my brakes go away and sound like a bad grinding noise. This was an intermittent problem
And I am on my way to the dealership Friday so any info could help me save some cash rather than just doing what they say.
Any help would be appreciated

thanks


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Date: Wed, 06 Jun 2001 15:46:31 -0500
From: Merritt <merritt@cedar-rapids.net>
Subject: Re: Team3S: RE: ABS brake problem

At 01:24 PM 6/6/01 -0700, Robert Koch wrote:
>I have an intermittent problem with my ABS, It would appear that my brakes
come and go.
>As the dash light comes on my brakes go away and sound like a bad grinding
noise. This was an intermittent problem
>And I am on my way to the dealership Friday so any info could help me save
some cash rather than just doing what they say.
>Any help would be appreciated
>
Sounds like you wore your pads down to the wear sensor. Look at the rotor
for gouges. Feel both sides of the rotor. If both sides of each rotor are
smooth, the rotor is probably all right. If so, all you need are pads.

If you have gouged the rotors, they need to be cleaned up. Most places
charge about $10-$15 per rotor for a cleanup grind, plus labor to take them
off.  Go to a competent brake shop for an estimate. Most offer a free brake
checkup. Ask them to mike the caliper to see if there is enough left for a
cleanup.

If the rotors are worn beyond cleaning up, you'll need new rotors. Rotors
are about $100 at the dealer, and stock pads are about $65 for the fronts.
Labor to replace/repair the fronts should be $100 or less. That puts the
max cost at $365 for new rotors, new pads and labor. The dealer will
probably want to charge you a billion dollars for all this. Call around for
estimates at competent brake shops in your area for the cost of a pad
change, pads and a rotor cleanup, and pads and a rotor replacement.

If all you need are pads, you might get away for $100 total, because just
replacing pads is a 30 minute job for any competent mechanic (10 minutes a
side, max). 

While you have your car on the lift, pay a little extra to have them
replace all your brake fluid with Ford High Performance fluid ($3 a pint at
your friendly Ford dealer).

Rich/old poop/94 VR4

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Date: Wed, 06 Jun 2001 13:57:44 -0700
From: Richard <radanc@home.com>
Subject: Re: Team3S: Transmission Upgrade

Yeah, I was hoping of something better, but I know Kormex is just about
the only place messing with the tranny. Thanks!

"Floyd, Jim" wrote:
>
> Rich,
>
>         The last E-mail I saw from Jack T. he said he was not doing anything
> on our transmissions.
>         Do you know about Kormex ?
>
> Jim
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Richard [mailto:radanc@home.com]
> Sent: Tuesday, June 05, 2001 5:23 PM
> Cc: Team3S (E-mail)
> Subject: Team3S: Transmission Upgrade
>
> Searching the old posts it seemed like Jack T was working on an upgrade
> to the Getrag tranny. Jack or anyone out there anyone know of anything
> that exists or anyone capable of doing this. I think this is worth some
> effort since this seems to be the weak link in the drive train once you
> upgrade the standard parts. I can't see the value of going through
> multiple getrag trannys if this could be done. Any information or tips
> would be appreciated.
>
> Rich
> 92 Stealth TT

***  Info:  http://www.Team3S.com/Rules.htm  ***

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Date: Wed, 6 Jun 2001 17:08:47 -0400
From: "Joshua G. Prince" <joshua@unconundrum.com>
Subject: RE: Team3S: Transmission Upgrade

Is kormex the only company has built the *supposedly* upgraded synchros?

Joshua Prince
97 1/2 Fly Yellow Hummer Convertible
3SI#0136
Microsoft Certified System Engineer
Joshua@Unconundrum.com

 -----Original Message-----
From: Richard [mailto:radanc@home.com]
Sent: Wednesday, June 06, 2001 4:58 PM
To: Floyd, Jim
Cc: Team3S (E-mail)
Subject: Re: Team3S: Transmission Upgrade

Yeah, I was hoping of something better, but I know Kormex is just about
the only place messing with the tranny. Thanks!

"Floyd, Jim" wrote:
>
> Rich,
>
>         The last E-mail I saw from Jack T. he said he was not doing
anything
> on our transmissions.
>         Do you know about Kormex ?
>
> Jim
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Richard [mailto:radanc@home.com]
> Sent: Tuesday, June 05, 2001 5:23 PM
> Cc: Team3S (E-mail)
> Subject: Team3S: Transmission Upgrade
>
> Searching the old posts it seemed like Jack T was working on an
upgrade
> to the Getrag tranny. Jack or anyone out there anyone know of anything
> that exists or anyone capable of doing this. I think this is worth
some
> effort since this seems to be the weak link in the drive train once
you
> upgrade the standard parts. I can't see the value of going through
> multiple getrag trannys if this could be done. Any information or tips
> would be appreciated.
>
> Rich
> 92 Stealth TT

***  Info:  http://www.Team3S.com/Rules.htm  ***

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Date: Wed, 6 Jun 2001 15:17:49 -0600
From: "Floyd, Jim" <Jim_Floyd@maxtor.com>
Subject: RE: Team3S: Transmission Upgrade

Joushua,

There is a place called Southern Gear in Georgia that rebuilds them.
I will try to get more info for you.

Jim

- -----Original Message-----
From: Joshua G. Prince [mailto:joshua@unconundrum.com]
Sent: Wednesday, June 06, 2001 3:09 PM
To: Team3S (E-mail)
Subject: RE: Team3S: Transmission Upgrade


Is kormex the only company has built the *supposedly* upgraded synchros?

Joshua Prince
97 1/2 Fly Yellow Hummer Convertible
3SI#0136
Microsoft Certified System Engineer
Joshua@Unconundrum.com

 -----Original Message-----
From: Richard [mailto:radanc@home.com]
Sent: Wednesday, June 06, 2001 4:58 PM
To: Floyd, Jim
Cc: Team3S (E-mail)
Subject: Re: Team3S: Transmission Upgrade

Yeah, I was hoping of something better, but I know Kormex is just about
the only place messing with the tranny. Thanks!

"Floyd, Jim" wrote:
>
> Rich,
>
>         The last E-mail I saw from Jack T. he said he was not doing
anything
> on our transmissions.
>         Do you know about Kormex ?
>
> Jim
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Richard [mailto:radanc@home.com]
> Sent: Tuesday, June 05, 2001 5:23 PM
> Cc: Team3S (E-mail)
> Subject: Team3S: Transmission Upgrade
>
> Searching the old posts it seemed like Jack T was working on an
upgrade
> to the Getrag tranny. Jack or anyone out there anyone know of anything
> that exists or anyone capable of doing this. I think this is worth
some
> effort since this seems to be the weak link in the drive train once
you
> upgrade the standard parts. I can't see the value of going through
> multiple getrag trannys if this could be done. Any information or tips
> would be appreciated.
>
> Rich
> 92 Stealth TT

***  Info:  http://www.Team3S.com/Rules.htm  ***

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Date: Wed, 6 Jun 2001 15:21:10 -0600
From: "Floyd, Jim" <Jim_Floyd@maxtor.com>
Subject: RE: Team3S: Transmission Upgrade

I did see an E-mail come through about a company in the SE that was
rebuilding our trannys.
I'll see if I can get the number for you.

- -----Original Message-----
From: Richard [mailto:radanc@home.com]
Sent: Wednesday, June 06, 2001 2:58 PM
To: Floyd, Jim
Cc: Team3S (E-mail)
Subject: Re: Team3S: Transmission Upgrade


Yeah, I was hoping of something better, but I know Kormex is just about
the only place messing with the tranny. Thanks!

"Floyd, Jim" wrote:
>
> Rich,
>
>         The last E-mail I saw from Jack T. he said he was not doing
anything
> on our transmissions.
>         Do you know about Kormex ?
>
> Jim
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Richard [mailto:radanc@home.com]
> Sent: Tuesday, June 05, 2001 5:23 PM
> Cc: Team3S (E-mail)
> Subject: Team3S: Transmission Upgrade
>
> Searching the old posts it seemed like Jack T was working on an upgrade
> to the Getrag tranny. Jack or anyone out there anyone know of anything
> that exists or anyone capable of doing this. I think this is worth some
> effort since this seems to be the weak link in the drive train once you
> upgrade the standard parts. I can't see the value of going through
> multiple getrag trannys if this could be done. Any information or tips
> would be appreciated.
>
> Rich
> 92 Stealth TT

***  Info:  http://www.Team3S.com/Rules.htm  ***

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Date: Wed, 6 Jun 2001 15:06:49 -0700
From: "Gross, Erik" <erik.gross@intel.com>
Subject: Team3S: Big Reds with 17" 1G Stealth TT wheels?

I have a set of 17"x8.5" wheels from 1st generation Stealth TT that I ran on
my NA 3000GT.  Now that I have a VR-4, they won't clear the front calipers
(inner wheel diameter clearance, not spoke clearance), but they're just
*barely* too small.  I'll probably eventually get the Big Reds (it will be
at least until this Fall), and I'm wondering if I should hang onto the 17"
Stealth wheels.  That would depend on whether they'll clear the Big Reds.
If not, I'll probably end up buying some other 17" wheels for the track. 

Soooo....  anyone know if 17" Stealth TT rims (5-spoke alloy) will clear the
Big Reds?  BTW, they're the wheels on this car:
http://pws.ihpc.net/erikgross/3000GTSale/3000GTSale.html


Thanks!
- --Erik

P.S.  If no one has tried this combination, is there anyone I could ask who
could give me a definitive answer? 

- ------                                             ----------
Erik Gross                                         DuPont, WA
'95 Lamp Black 3000GT VR-4 (AWD, 4WS, ECS)          32,000 mi
   K&N FIPK, HKS Turbo Exhaust, GReddy PRofecA @0.8bar,
   HKS Sequential BOV, HKS Turbo Timer, GReddy Boost Gauge
   Syntec 5W50, BG SynchroShift(TX, TC), Mobil1 (R Diff)
'94 Algae-Blue "fun to slide around corners" Corolla 75,000mi
http://pws.ihpc.net/erikgross/home.html

  ********************* For Sale ************************
'95 Galaxy White Pearl 3000GT (NA, DOHC, 5MT)       78,000 mi
   Magnacor KV85, M1 10W30, K&N FIPK,
   SZ50EP 245/45/ZR17, 17x8.5J 1GTT wheels
  http://pws.ihpc.net/erikgross/3000GTSale/3000GTSale.html

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Date: Wed, 6 Jun 2001 18:13:49 -0400
From: "Schilberg, Darren" <DSchilberg@freemarkets.com>
Subject: RE: Team3S: Big Reds with 17" 1G Stealth TT wheels?

YES hang on to them.  They fetch a fair price on the group list.

The first gen and second gen wheels or calipers and all that brake stuff IS
different.  However, a spacer should take care of that problem.  I think
Merritt was supposed to be installing these and he can tell us.

If not then sell the wheels and welcome (soon) to the Big Red group.  We
can't wait to hear about the first time you stomp on those brakes.

- --Flash!
1995 VR-4 with Big Reds

- -----Original Message-----
From: Gross, Erik [mailto:erik.gross@intel.com]
Sent: Wednesday, June 06, 2001 6:07 PM
To: Team3S List (E-mail)
Subject: Team3S: Big Reds with 17" 1G Stealth TT wheels?

I have a set of 17"x8.5" wheels from 1st generation Stealth TT that I ran on
my NA 3000GT.  Now that I have a VR-4, they won't clear the front calipers
(inner wheel diameter clearance, not spoke clearance), but they're just
*barely* too small.  I'll probably eventually get the Big Reds (it will be
at least until this Fall), and I'm wondering if I should hang onto the 17"
Stealth wheels.  That would depend on whether they'll clear the Big Reds.
If not, I'll probably end up buying some other 17" wheels for the track. 

Soooo....  anyone know if 17" Stealth TT rims (5-spoke alloy) will clear the
Big Reds?  BTW, they're the wheels on this car:
http://pws.ihpc.net/erikgross/3000GTSale/3000GTSale.html

Thanks!
- --Erik

P.S.  If no one has tried this combination, is there anyone I could ask who
could give me a definitive answer? 


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Date: Wed, 06 Jun 2001 16:25:35 -0600
From: Dave Monarchi <monarchd@refuge.Colorado.EDU>
Subject: Re: Team3S: Big Reds with 17" 1G Stealth TT wheels?

+> YES hang on to them.  They fetch a fair price on the group list.
+>
+> The first gen and second gen wheels or calipers and all that brake stuff IS
+> different.  However, a spacer should take care of that problem.  I think

NO.  I have the 15mm H&R spacers as well and they still don't clear. 
search the archives for my MANY statements about this.  I still don't
know about the Big Reds, but the factory 1st gen 17" wheels will NOT
clear the the factory 2nd gen calipers.  That said, I'm referring to
VR4 wheels..  dunno if the Stealth TT wheels have the same ID
interference issue.

+> Merritt was supposed to be installing these and he can tell us.
+>
+> If not then sell the wheels and welcome (soon) to the Big Red group.  We
+> can't wait to hear about the first time you stomp on those brakes.

one of these days I'll join the club too.. 


Dave
=======================
= 95 Black 3000GT VR4 =
= 87 Mica Red GTI G60 =    http://ucsu.colorado.edu/~monarchd/cars.html
= There is no spoon.. =
=======================

+> -----Original Message-----
+> From: Gross, Erik [mailto:erik.gross@intel.com]
+> Sent: Wednesday, June 06, 2001 6:07 PM
+> To: Team3S List (E-mail)
+> Subject: Team3S: Big Reds with 17" 1G Stealth TT wheels?
+>
+> I have a set of 17"x8.5" wheels from 1st generation Stealth TT that I ran on
+> my NA 3000GT.  Now that I have a VR-4, they won't clear the front calipers
+> (inner wheel diameter clearance, not spoke clearance), but they're just
+> *barely* too small.  I'll probably eventually get the Big Reds (it will be
+> at least until this Fall), and I'm wondering if I should hang onto the 17"
+> Stealth wheels.  That would depend on whether they'll clear the Big Reds.
+> If not, I'll probably end up buying some other 17" wheels for the track. 
+>
+> Soooo....  anyone know if 17" Stealth TT rims (5-spoke alloy) will clear the
+> Big Reds?  BTW, they're the wheels on this car:
+> http://pws.ihpc.net/erikgross/3000GTSale/3000GTSale.html
+>
+> Thanks!
+> --Erik
+>
+> P.S.  If no one has tried this combination, is there anyone I could ask who
+> could give me a definitive answer? 

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Date: Wed, 06 Jun 2001 17:26:02 -0500
From: Merritt <merritt@cedar-rapids.net>
Subject: RE: Team3S: Big Reds with 17" 1G Stealth TT wheels?

>The first gen and second gen wheels or calipers and all that brake stuff IS
>different.  However, a spacer should take care of that problem.  I think
>Merritt was supposed to be installing these and he can tell us.

Nope. I have spacers on my 2nd gen, but I cannot tell you if they will make
1st gen wheels fit over Big Reds or not. Flash is right in that Stealths
and VR4s and non-turbo cars are all different. Somebody with spacers should
try fitting a 1st gen wheel to see what happens. If there's anybody in Iowa
who needs to know, I'd be happy to volunteer mine.

In my personal opinion, I think it would be worth an $84 investment in
spacers to find out. At best, it would provide enough clearance to
eliminate the need to buy new wheels. At the worst, you'd have a set of
spacers to spread your front wheel track, and that's a good thing all by
itself.

Rich/old poop
>


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Date: Wed, 6 Jun 2001 18:49:45 -0400
From: "Jason Barnhart" <phnxgld@erols.com>
Subject: Re: Team3S: Transmission Upgrade

Last I heard was that Altered Atmosphere was also rebuilding our trannies
using the Kormex parts.

Just so people understand, according to Kormex themselves, the synchros are
NOT upgrades.  They are simply replicas of the factory parts that are not
available for purchase.  Kormex told me "they seem to grip better than the
used factory synchros we tested..." so they might not be an improvement at
all.

Kormex hardly even warranties the equipment, like 90 days or less.  No
thanks, I'll explore other options.


- ----- Original Message -----
From: "Joshua G. Prince" <joshua@unconundrum.com>
To: "Team3S (E-mail)" <Team3S@stealth-3000gt.st>
Sent: Wednesday, June 06, 2001 5:08 PM
Subject: RE: Team3S: Transmission Upgrade


> Is kormex the only company has built the *supposedly* upgraded synchros?
>
> Joshua Prince
> 97 1/2 Fly Yellow Hummer Convertible
> 3SI#0136
> Microsoft Certified System Engineer
> Joshua@Unconundrum.com
>
>  -----Original Message-----
> From: Richard [mailto:radanc@home.com]
> Sent: Wednesday, June 06, 2001 4:58 PM
> To: Floyd, Jim
> Cc: Team3S (E-mail)
> Subject: Re: Team3S: Transmission Upgrade
>
> Yeah, I was hoping of something better, but I know Kormex is just about
> the only place messing with the tranny. Thanks!
>
> "Floyd, Jim" wrote:
> >
> > Rich,
> >
> >         The last E-mail I saw from Jack T. he said he was not doing
> anything
> > on our transmissions.
> >         Do you know about Kormex ?
> >
> > Jim
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Richard [mailto:radanc@home.com]
> > Sent: Tuesday, June 05, 2001 5:23 PM
> > Cc: Team3S (E-mail)
> > Subject: Team3S: Transmission Upgrade
> >
> > Searching the old posts it seemed like Jack T was working on an
> upgrade
> > to the Getrag tranny. Jack or anyone out there anyone know of anything
> > that exists or anyone capable of doing this. I think this is worth
> some
> > effort since this seems to be the weak link in the drive train once
> you
> > upgrade the standard parts. I can't see the value of going through
> > multiple getrag trannys if this could be done. Any information or tips
> > would be appreciated.
> >
> > Rich
> > 92 Stealth TT

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Date: Wed, 06 Jun 2001 17:20:12 -0600
From: Dave Monarchi <monarchd@refuge.Colorado.EDU>
Subject: Re: Team3S: Big Reds with 17" 1G Stealth TT wheels?

+> >The first gen and second gen wheels or calipers and all that brake stuff IS
+> >different.  However, a spacer should take care of that problem.  I think
+> >Merritt was supposed to be installing these and he can tell us.
+>
+> Nope. I have spacers on my 2nd gen, but I cannot tell you if they will make
+> 1st gen wheels fit over Big Reds or not. Flash is right in that Stealths
+> and VR4s and non-turbo cars are all different. Somebody with spacers should
+> try fitting a 1st gen wheel to see what happens. If there's anybody in Iowa
+> who needs to know, I'd be happy to volunteer mine.
+>
+> In my personal opinion, I think it would be worth an $84 investment in
+> spacers to find out. At best, it would provide enough clearance to
+> eliminate the need to buy new wheels. At the worst, you'd have a set of
+> spacers to spread your front wheel track, and that's a good thing all by
+> itself.
+>

honest guys..  I'm not making this up..  I HAVE the 15mm spacers..  I
finally got around to taking pictures of the marks the calipers made
as I tried to force the wheels on..  right before I SOLD them because
there was NO POSSIBLE WAY to make them work..  sorry it's crappy
quality..  I'll try to put up better ones..

http://ucsu.colorado.edu/~monarchd/3000gt/wheels.html

once again, I don't know if Big Reds would solve the problem..

Dave
=======================
= 95 Black 3000GT VR4 =
= 87 Mica Red GTI G60 =    http://ucsu.colorado.edu/~monarchd/cars.html
= There is no spoon.. =
=======================

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Date: Wed, 6 Jun 2001 18:21:23 -0500 (CDT)
From: David Littau <littau@cs.umn.edu>
Subject: Re: Team3S: Transmission Upgrade

I've been lurking, hoping to hear about this.  I am going to buy either a
Stealth TT or 3000GT VR4 in the very near future (hopefully within a
month), but haven't settled on what year I should get (although initial
cost probably limits me to 1995 at the latest). I've been searching the
web, email archives, etc for info on what I should look out for when
purchasing the car, as well as what I should expect to repair and when I
should expect it.  Initial results are that the replacement of the timing
belt is mandatory every 60K miles (no problem, I can do the work myself),
and that the transmissions are kind of weak.

Are the Kormex synchros available for both the 5 and 6 speeds?  What I'm
getting at is which driveline is currently more rebuildable as well as
reliable, the 5 speed or the 6 speed? 

Any help/appropriate URLs/etc would be much appreciated.

thanks,

david



On Wed, 6 Jun 2001, Jason Barnhart wrote:

> Last I heard was that Altered Atmosphere was also rebuilding our trannies
> using the Kormex parts.
>
> Just so people understand, according to Kormex themselves, the synchros are
> NOT upgrades.  They are simply replicas of the factory parts that are not
> available for purchase.  Kormex told me "they seem to grip better than the
> used factory synchros we tested..." so they might not be an improvement at
> all.
>
> Kormex hardly even warranties the equipment, like 90 days or less.  No
> thanks, I'll explore other options.
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Joshua G. Prince" <joshua@unconundrum.com>
> To: "Team3S (E-mail)" <Team3S@stealth-3000gt.st>
> Sent: Wednesday, June 06, 2001 5:08 PM
> Subject: RE: Team3S: Transmission Upgrade
>
>
> > Is kormex the only company has built the *supposedly* upgraded synchros?
> >
> > Joshua Prince
> > 97 1/2 Fly Yellow Hummer Convertible
> > 3SI#0136
> > Microsoft Certified System Engineer
> > Joshua@Unconundrum.com
> >
> >  -----Original Message-----
> > From: Richard [mailto:radanc@home.com]
> > Sent: Wednesday, June 06, 2001 4:58 PM
> > To: Floyd, Jim
> > Cc: Team3S (E-mail)
> > Subject: Re: Team3S: Transmission Upgrade
> >
> > Yeah, I was hoping of something better, but I know Kormex is just about
> > the only place messing with the tranny. Thanks!
> >
> > "Floyd, Jim" wrote:
> > >
> > > Rich,
> > >
> > >         The last E-mail I saw from Jack T. he said he was not doing
> > anything
> > > on our transmissions.
> > >         Do you know about Kormex ?
> > >
> > > Jim
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Richard [mailto:radanc@home.com]
> > > Sent: Tuesday, June 05, 2001 5:23 PM
> > > Cc: Team3S (E-mail)
> > > Subject: Team3S: Transmission Upgrade
> > >
> > > Searching the old posts it seemed like Jack T was working on an
> > upgrade
> > > to the Getrag tranny. Jack or anyone out there anyone know of anything
> > > that exists or anyone capable of doing this. I think this is worth
> > some
> > > effort since this seems to be the weak link in the drive train once
> > you
> > > upgrade the standard parts. I can't see the value of going through
> > > multiple getrag trannys if this could be done. Any information or tips
> > > would be appreciated.
> > >
> > > Rich
> > > 92 Stealth TT

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Date: Wed, 06 Jun 2001 18:19:35 -0500
From: Merritt <merritt@cedar-rapids.net>
Subject: Re: Team3S: Big Reds with 17" 1G Stealth TT wheels?

>honest guys..  I'm not making this up..  I HAVE the 15mm spacers..  I
>finally got around to taking pictures of the marks the calipers made
>as I tried to force the wheels on..  right before I SOLD them because
>there was NO POSSIBLE WAY to make them work..  sorry it's crappy
>quality..  I'll try to put up better ones..
>
Are you saying that spacers do not allow 1st gen wheels to work with Big Reds?
We know they don't work with stock 2nd gen calipers.
If you have actually tried it, then that answers the question.

Rich

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Date: Wed, 06 Jun 2001 17:37:53 -0600
From: Dave Monarchi <monarchd@refuge.Colorado.EDU>
Subject: Re: Team3S: Big Reds with 17" 1G Stealth TT wheels?

- --------

+> >honest guys..  I'm not making this up..  I HAVE the 15mm spacers..  I
+> >finally got around to taking pictures of the marks the calipers made
+> >as I tried to force the wheels on..  right before I SOLD them because
+> >there was NO POSSIBLE WAY to make them work..  sorry it's crappy
+> >quality..  I'll try to put up better ones..
+> >
+> Are you saying that spacers do not allow 1st gen wheels to work with Big Red
s?
+> We know they don't work with stock 2nd gen calipers.
+> If you have actually tried it, then that answers the question.
+>
+> Rich

from my last message:

"once again, I don't know if Big Reds would solve the problem.."

so no, it doesn't answer the question.  I just wanted to be absolutely
clear..  your last message had this sentence:

"Somebody with spacers should try fitting a 1st gen wheel to see what
happens." 

I'm pretty sure you meant "somebody with spacers _and_ BIG REDS should
try..."  and I just wanted to make sure everyone else understood that..

sorry if I'm being rediculous about this..  just trying to save someone
the aggrevation I had to deal with..


Dave
=======================
= 95 Black 3000GT VR4 =
= 87 Mica Red GTI G60 =    http://ucsu.colorado.edu/~monarchd/cars.html
= There is no spoon.. =
=======================


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Date: Wed, 06 Jun 2001 18:38:45 -0500
From: Merritt <merritt@cedar-rapids.net>
Subject: Re: Team3S: Big Reds with 17" 1G Stealth TT wheels?

>I'm pretty sure you meant "somebody with spacers _and_ BIG REDS should
>try..."  and I just wanted to make sure everyone else understood that..
>sorry if I'm being rediculous about this..  just trying to save someone
>the aggrevation I had to deal with..

Yep, I should have been more explicit. It's a very good point, and worthy
of discussion. IF the spacers  work, it would save anyone with a 1st gen
car from buying a set of wheels when they buy Big Reds. Like I shoulda
said, I have spacers and Big Reds, so if anyone in Iowa or nearby wants to
see if a 1st gen wheel will fit over Big Reds, I volunteer my car as a test
bed.

Rich

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Date: Wed, 6 Jun 2001 20:58:28 -0400
From: "WALTER D. BEST" <WDBO39@erols.com>
Subject: Re: Team3S: Big Reds with 17" 1G Stealth TT wheels?

OK folks from what I understood from Brad Bedell was that yes the big Red
will indeed fit the 1st gen wheels.  At least, that is what he has told me.
I will soon be finding out for sure when Flash and I meet up at the Blue
Ridge Gathering in Pigeon Forge TN, the weekend of the 22-24 June.  At least
I will try one wheel and find out for sure.  I know it will be tight, but
according to Brad it should work.  If they do work, I'll also be getting a
set real soon there after.

What Brad told me was that on some of the first generation wheels they had
to grind down the wields a bit and shave off a little from the calipers, but
after doing that most cleared by 1/8" or so.  I have Kinesis Wheels and I do
have a little more room between the stock caliper (1st Gen) and the wheel
then the stock wheels, but they are still 17"ers.

Hopefully we will have a positive answer soon,

Dave Best
Don't have room to list my mods, but I have most of them listed on my web
page: http://davebest.dsmpower.com/.  Of course this doesn't include the HKS
Fuel pump, 2nd gen rear brake conversion, SS lines, or ARC-2 I have in the
garage waiting for time to install them.  This week has been taken up
installing air ducting for the HKS Intercoolers, a grill and a set of Fram
air horns.  I hope to have the 2nd generation rear brake conversion done by
the time we take on Deals Gap.

- ----- Original Message -----
From: "Merritt" <merritt@cedar-rapids.net>
To: "Dave Monarchi" <monarchd@refuge.Colorado.EDU>
Cc: "Team3S List (E-mail)" <team3S@stealth-3000gt.st>
Sent: Wednesday, June 06, 2001 7:38 PM
Subject: Re: Team3S: Big Reds with 17" 1G Stealth TT wheels?


> >I'm pretty sure you meant "somebody with spacers _and_ BIG REDS should
> >try..."  and I just wanted to make sure everyone else understood that..
> >sorry if I'm being rediculous about this..  just trying to save someone
> >the aggrevation I had to deal with..
>
> Yep, I should have been more explicit. It's a very good point, and worthy
> of discussion. IF the spacers  work, it would save anyone with a 1st gen
> car from buying a set of wheels when they buy Big Reds. Like I shoulda
> said, I have spacers and Big Reds, so if anyone in Iowa or nearby wants to
> see if a 1st gen wheel will fit over Big Reds, I volunteer my car as a
test
> bed.
>
> Rich

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Date: Wed, 6 Jun 2001 17:58:33 -0700
From: "Jim Berry" <fastmax@home.com>
Subject: Re: Team3S: Big Reds with 17" 1G Stealth TT wheels?

OK, here I go again ---- I should save this damn response so I don't have to
write it out every four months.

I have a 93 TT stealth with Big Reds and Einke RP01's and 25mm spacers,
however, before I had the spacers I fit one of my stock 17 X 8½ rims over
the Big Reds and they barely fit. The problem was with the spoke to caliper
clearance [ probably .030" or so ], they might work that way but I'd want
more clearance before I'd run them hard. Spacers should allow the rims to
work but I haven't tried it yet [ ok --ok I'll see if I can get off my butt and try
it this weekend ].

Attached is the type of rim I used to check the clearance.

BTW I like the Einke's ---- they're relatively cheap [ $200 each ] and light,
around 21# vs. 28# for stock. They are a cast wheel so they wouldn't be my
first choice for open track use but I haven't had any problem with them.

        Jim Berry
======================================================

- ----- Original Message -----
From: Gross, Erik <erik.gross@intel.com>
To: Team3S List (E-mail) <team3S@stealth-3000gt.st>
Sent: Wednesday, June 06, 2001 3:06 PM
Subject: Team3S: Big Reds with 17" 1G Stealth TT wheels?


> I have a set of 17"x8.5" wheels from 1st generation Stealth TT that I ran on
> my NA 3000GT.  Now that I have a VR-4, they won't clear the front calipers
> (inner wheel diameter clearance, not spoke clearance), but they're just
> *barely* too small.  I'll probably eventually get the Big Reds (it will be
> at least until this Fall), and I'm wondering if I should hang onto the 17"
> Stealth wheels.  That would depend on whether they'll clear the Big Reds.
> If not, I'll probably end up buying some other 17" wheels for the track.
>
> Soooo....  anyone know if 17" Stealth TT rims (5-spoke alloy) will clear the
> Big Reds?  BTW, they're the wheels on this car:
> http://pws.ihpc.net/erikgross/3000GTSale/3000GTSale.html
>
>
> Thanks!
> --Erik
>
> P.S.  If no one has tried this combination, is there anyone I could ask who
> could give me a definitive answer?
>
> ------                                             ----------
> Erik Gross                                         DuPont, WA
> '95 Lamp Black 3000GT VR-4 (AWD, 4WS, ECS)          32,000 mi
>    K&N FIPK, HKS Turbo Exhaust, GReddy PRofecA @0.8bar,
>    HKS Sequential BOV, HKS Turbo Timer, GReddy Boost Gauge
>    Syntec 5W50, BG SynchroShift(TX, TC), Mobil1 (R Diff)
> '94 Algae-Blue "fun to slide around corners" Corolla 75,000mi
> http://pws.ihpc.net/erikgross/home.html
>
>   ********************* For Sale ************************
> '95 Galaxy White Pearl 3000GT (NA, DOHC, 5MT)       78,000 mi
>    Magnacor KV85, M1 10W30, K&N FIPK,
>    SZ50EP 245/45/ZR17, 17x8.5J 1GTT wheels
>   http://pws.ihpc.net/erikgross/3000GTSale/3000GTSale.html

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