team3s
Saturday, January 15
2000 Volume 01 :
Number
026
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Date:
Fri, 14 Jan 2000 14:34:48 -0800
From: Chris Winkley <
cwinkley@plaza.ds.adp.com>
Subject:
Team3S: RE: Transmission Swap
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Josh...
Welcome to the list. There have
been a number of threads about converting
from the 1st generation five speed
to the Getrag six speed. You should be
able to find everything in the
archives. Given the number of failures
associated with the Getrag, I'm not
sure this is a good decision, but check
it out and see for
yourself.
Thanks for the offer to pass on your discount. In which state
& city are you
located? There's also a continued quest for finding
dealerships that knows
the subtleties of our cars. How would you rate the
service department? Any
experienced technicians?
BTW...an Admin note
(I am one of the "founding fathers" of this list)...it
will help
you, and anyone who follows, if you use a subject that reflects
your
question. I changed this one to "Transmission Swap".
Looking
forward...Chris
1995 Glacier Pearl White VR4 (w/HKS Super Flo intake, TEC
15G turbos, bored
and polished throttle body, RC 560cc injectors, HKS fuel
pump, GReddy PRofec
A boost controller, G-force ECU upgrade, HKS SBOV, custom
intercoolers,
Predator dry cell battery, Magnecore 8.5mm wires, NGK double
platinum plugs
gapped at .030", ATR downpipe and test pipe, GReddy
catback exhaust, GReddy
turbo timer, Eibach 1" drop progressive springs,
Michelin SX MXX3 Pilots)
- -----Original Message-----
From:
DSMDealer1@aol.com [
mailto:DSMDealer1@aol.com]
Sent: Friday,
January 14, 2000 2:01 PM
To:
team3S@stealth-3000gt.stSubject:
Team3S: Question...please advise
Being new to the list and the
3000GTs I wanted to post an e-mail to
introduce
myself and hopefully get
some information from the gurus here. I recently
purchased a showroom
condition '92 3000GT VR4 (Silver, loaded, black
interior) for $8400.
Problem in (always a catch) is that the transmission
is
bad. When
Pep Boys replaced the clutch for the previous owner (please flame
him,
not me...I'd never take a car there) they neglected to refill the
transmission. So as a result, I have dropped the transmission and torn
it
apart. I've found a supplier for the bearings and seals (which I
definitely
need), but am still looking for the seal that goes on the
outside of the 5th
gear housing and the oil director that fits underneath
the main shaft
bearing
on the inside of the bell housing. I have
also found a cheap 6-speed
transmission that I'm thinking about picking
up. My questions are as
follows:
1) Does anyone know how to
check a viscous on these cars to determine the
condition of the
unit?
2) What would I have to change in order to use the 6-speed in
the car since
it originally came with a 5-speed? (Cables? Transfer Case?
Linkages? Etc.?)
3) Does anyone know where i may be able to find the last
minor parts for the
transmission I currently have in order to put it back
together? (oil
director, seal on outside of casing)
I appreciate any
reply on this!
Since I work at a Mitsu dealership in the
Club/Internet/Tuner Sales dept.
(parts), I would like to offer the same
discounts to everyone here on the
list as well. (25% off of Mitsubishi
list..not inflated dealer pricing).
This is basically good for any OEM
parts with the exception of accesories
(floormats, mudguards, roof racks,
power winches, etc...(joking on the last
couple!!!)). I am the only
person in this dept. that handles Mitsubishi's
though, so please be patient
when trying to reach me. The phone # is (610)
272-8504 and you now
also have my work e-mail address. Thanks again for any
help in
advance, and I look forward to adding any knowledge that I might
aquire on
these cars in the future!
Josh
Conicelli Mitsubishi
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Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2000 16:49:20
-0600
From: "Trevor L. James" <
trevor@kscable.com>
Subject: Re:
Team3S: EGT question.
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I posted on here about a month ago and all the
responses called it
pretty normal for my mods...
Idle-740-800F
Cruise
in 6th at 70mph-1360-1400F
WOT-1550-1610F
I've got my EGT probe pretty
close to the head though. The gauge is
ultra responsive.
Trevor
96
R/T TT
12.44@114.6 0-60 3.90 Gtech
92 GMC
Typhoon
13.72@100.2 0-60 4.90
Gtech
"Mohler, Jeff" wrote:
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>
> Ha! My TT idles
at 780F....
>
> Trevor
> ---
>
> You;re kidding
right..idles at 780 degrees?
>
> Just makin sure I read
right.
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Date: Sat, 15 Jan 2000 00:30:33
-0500
From: Bill Wagner <
wagner@sprynet.com>
Subject: Re:
Team3S: Question...please advise
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DSMDealer:
How were you able to
get ANY parts for the Getrag? Are you getting them
out of trashed units? All
any of the dealerships will give us are
rebuilt or new transaxles. Needless
to say, there's no documentation on
overhauling a unit in a service manual
(just a "swap it" statement), so
very few people on this list will
know how to check ANYTHING in it.
DSMDealer1@aol.com wrote:
>
>
***This is the NEW Team3S list. See message end for more info.***
>
> Being new to the list and the 3000GTs I wanted to post an e-mail to
introduce
> myself and hopefully get some information from the gurus
here. I recently
> purchased a showroom condition '92 3000GT VR4
(Silver, loaded, black
> interior) for $8400. Problem in (always a
catch) is that the transmission is
> bad. When Pep Boys replaced the
clutch for the previous owner (please flame
> him, not me...I'd never take
a car there) they neglected to refill the
> transmission. So as a
result, I have dropped the transmission and torn it
> apart. I've
found a supplier for the bearings and seals (which I definitely
> need),
but am still looking for the seal that goes on the outside of the 5th
>
gear housing and the oil director that fits underneath the main shaft
bearing
> on the inside of the bell housing. I have also found a
cheap 6-speed
> transmission that I'm thinking about picking up. My
questions are as follows:
>
> 1) Does anyone know how to check a
viscous on these cars to determine the
> condition of the unit?
>
> 2) What would I have to change in order to use the 6-speed in the
car since
> it originally came with a 5-speed? (Cables? Transfer Case?
Linkages? Etc.?)
>
> 3) Does anyone know where i may be able to
find the last minor parts for the
> transmission I currently have in order
to put it back together? (oil
> director, seal on outside of
casing)
>
> I appreciate any reply on this!
>
> Since
I work at a Mitsu dealership in the Club/Internet/Tuner Sales dept.
>
(parts), I would like to offer the same discounts to everyone here on
the
> list as well. (25% off of Mitsubishi list..not inflated dealer
pricing).
> This is basically good for any OEM parts with the exception of
accesories
> (floormats, mudguards, roof racks, power winches,
etc...(joking on the last
> couple!!!)). I am the only person in
this dept. that handles Mitsubishi's
> though, so please be patient when
trying to reach me. The phone # is (610)
> 272-8504 and you now also
have my work e-mail address. Thanks again for any
> help in advance,
and I look forward to adding any knowledge that I might
> aquire on these
cars in the future!
>
> Josh
> Conicelli Mitsubishi
>
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>
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Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2000 22:01:29
-0800
From: "Darcy" <
w.c.e@home.com>
Subject: Re:
Team3S: Getrag :was Question...please advise
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Hi Josh
(DSMDealer)
There are quite a number of informative posts on the trannies
and transfer
cases in our archives, including outlets that do rebuilds and/or
provide
parts. The information you seek, however, is a bit exclusive,
and you might
be better advised to research with and/or contact them for
the
parts/resources you seek. Jack T. one of our more elite
members is
conducting a refabrication of the tranny, so you might wish to
communicate
with him and his progress on a sideband. If you are successful in
your
venture, and you seem resourceful from our sideband communication, I
would
suggest you post back with results so that readers here, like Bill,
can
become equally as informed. It is the purpose of this tech forum to
help
and share in as many ways like this, as we can. Getrag, is and
continues to
be, a reoccurring topic here and any good news is likely to
spread like a
wildfire.
BTW, if you are changing to a 6 speed
you will also have to go with a
transfer case to match, as the spline
patterns are completely different. The
6 speeds are still not better if you
are increasing Horsepower to optimum
levels, and Jack's project will
hopefully result in a healthier solution
than the present problematic
gearbox...that is, before the next
millenium
;-)))
Best
Darc
- -----Original
Message-----
From: Bill Wagner <
wagner@sprynet.com>
To:
team3S@stealth-3000gt.st <
team3S@stealth-3000gt.st>
Date:
Friday, January 14, 2000 9:33 PM
Subject: Re: Team3S: Question...please
advise
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info.***
>
>
>DSMDealer:
>
>How were you able to
get ANY parts for the Getrag? Are you getting them
>out of trashed units?
All any of the dealerships will give us are
>rebuilt or new transaxles.
Needless to say, there's no documentation on
>overhauling a unit in a
service manual (just a "swap it" statement), so
>very few people
on this list will know how to check ANYTHING in it.
>
>
>
DSMDealer1@aol.com
wrote:
>>
>> ***This is the NEW Team3S list. See message end
for more info.***
>>
>> Being new to the list and the 3000GTs
I wanted to post an e-mail to
introduce
>> myself and hopefully get
some information from the gurus here. I
recently
>> purchased
a showroom condition '92 3000GT VR4 (Silver, loaded, black
>> interior)
for $8400. Problem in (always a catch) is that the
transmission
is
>> bad. When Pep Boys replaced the clutch for the previous
owner (please
flame
>> him, not me...I'd never take a car there)
they neglected to refill the
>> transmission. So as a result, I
have dropped the transmission and torn
it
>> apart. I've found
a supplier for the bearings and seals (which I
definitely
>> need),
but am still looking for the seal that goes on the outside of
the
5th
>> gear housing and the oil director that fits underneath
the main shaft
bearing
>> on the inside of the bell housing. I
have also found a cheap 6-speed
>> transmission that I'm thinking about
picking up. My questions are as
follows:
>>
>> 1)
Does anyone know how to check a viscous on these cars to determine
the
>> condition of the unit?
>>
>> 2) What
would I have to change in order to use the 6-speed in the
car
since
>> it originally came with a 5-speed? (Cables? Transfer
Case? Linkages?
Etc.?)
>>
>> 3) Does anyone know where i
may be able to find the last minor parts for
the
>> transmission I
currently have in order to put it back together? (oil
>> director, seal
on outside of casing)
>>
>> I appreciate any reply on
this!
>>
>> Since I work at a Mitsu dealership in the
Club/Internet/Tuner Sales dept.
>> (parts), I would like to offer the
same discounts to everyone here on the
>> list as well. (25% off of
Mitsubishi list..not inflated dealer pricing).
>> This is basically
good for any OEM parts with the exception of accesories
>> (floormats,
mudguards, roof racks, power winches, etc...(joking on the
last
>>
couple!!!)). I am the only person in this dept. that
handles
Mitsubishi's
>> though, so please be patient when trying to
reach me. The phone # is
(610)
>> 272-8504 and you now also
have my work e-mail address. Thanks again for
any
>> help in
advance, and I look forward to adding any knowledge that I might
>>
aquire on these cars in the future!
>>
>> Josh
>>
Conicelli Mitsubishi
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Date: Sat, 15 Jan 2000 10:39:40
+0100
From: "R.G." <
robby@freesurf.ch>
Subject: Team3S:
Urgent : Need part numbers for valves (in/out)
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Friends
I'm confused
now ! Here in Switzerland we only have one MD number for the
intake and
another for the outlet valve ... and this is not the same as the
US I have
been given.
If you have the number(s), regardless of the year of the car
(91-99), I'd
highly appreciate it. If there are different numbers for the
year I
definitely need to know the difference of these guys.
Thanks in
advance
Roger
93'3000GT TT
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Date: Sat, 15 Jan 2000 07:42:56
-0700
From: "Barry E. King" <
beking@home.com>
Subject: RE: Team3S:
Urgent : Need part numbers for valves (in/out)
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Roger,
Here's what I
have for the '94 VR4
Intake Valve MD172315
Exhaust Valve
MD168241
Regards,
Barry
> -----Original
Message-----
>
> Friends
>
> I'm confused now ! Here
in Switzerland we only have one MD number for the
> intake and another for
the outlet valve ... and this is not the
> same as the
> US I have
been given.
>
> If you have the number(s), regardless of the year
of the car (91-99), I'd
> highly appreciate it. If there are different
numbers for the year I
> definitely need to know the difference of these
guys.
>
> Thanks in advance
> Roger
> 93'3000GT
TT
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