team3s           Saturday, January 15 2000           Volume 01 : Number 026




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Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2000 14:34:48 -0800
From: Chris Winkley <cwinkley@plaza.ds.adp.com>
Subject: Team3S: RE: Transmission Swap

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Josh...

Welcome to the list. There have been a number of threads about converting
from the 1st generation five speed to the Getrag six speed. You should be
able to find everything in the archives. Given the number of failures
associated with the Getrag, I'm not sure this is a good decision, but check
it out and see for yourself.

Thanks for the offer to pass on your discount. In which state & city are you
located? There's also a continued quest for finding dealerships that knows
the subtleties of our cars. How would you rate the service department? Any
experienced technicians?

BTW...an Admin note (I am one of the "founding fathers" of this list)...it
will help you, and anyone who follows, if you use a subject that reflects
your question. I changed this one to "Transmission Swap".

Looking forward...Chris

1995 Glacier Pearl White VR4 (w/HKS Super Flo intake, TEC 15G turbos, bored
and polished throttle body, RC 560cc injectors, HKS fuel pump, GReddy PRofec
A boost controller, G-force ECU upgrade, HKS SBOV, custom intercoolers,
Predator dry cell battery, Magnecore 8.5mm wires, NGK double platinum plugs
gapped at .030", ATR downpipe and test pipe, GReddy catback exhaust, GReddy
turbo timer, Eibach 1" drop progressive springs, Michelin SX MXX3 Pilots)

- -----Original Message-----
From: DSMDealer1@aol.com [mailto:DSMDealer1@aol.com]
Sent: Friday, January 14, 2000 2:01 PM
To: team3S@stealth-3000gt.st
Subject: Team3S: Question...please advise


Being new to the list and the 3000GTs I wanted to post an e-mail to
introduce
myself and hopefully get some information from the gurus here.  I recently
purchased a showroom condition '92 3000GT VR4 (Silver, loaded, black
interior) for $8400.  Problem in (always a catch) is that the transmission
is
bad.  When Pep Boys replaced the clutch for the previous owner (please flame

him, not me...I'd never take a car there) they neglected to refill the
transmission.  So as a result, I have dropped the transmission and torn it
apart.  I've found a supplier for the bearings and seals (which I definitely

need), but am still looking for the seal that goes on the outside of the 5th

gear housing and the oil director that fits underneath the main shaft
bearing
on the inside of the bell housing.  I have also found a cheap 6-speed
transmission that I'm thinking about picking up.  My questions are as
follows:

1) Does anyone know how to check a viscous on these cars to determine the
condition of the unit?

2)  What would I have to change in order to use the 6-speed in the car since

it originally came with a 5-speed? (Cables? Transfer Case? Linkages? Etc.?)

3) Does anyone know where i may be able to find the last minor parts for the

transmission I currently have in order to put it back together? (oil
director, seal on outside of casing)

I appreciate any reply on this!

Since I work at a Mitsu dealership in the Club/Internet/Tuner Sales dept.
(parts), I would like to offer the same discounts to everyone here on the
list as well. (25% off of Mitsubishi list..not inflated dealer pricing). 
This is basically good for any OEM parts with the exception of accesories
(floormats, mudguards, roof racks, power winches, etc...(joking on the last
couple!!!)).  I am the only person in this dept. that handles Mitsubishi's
though, so please be patient when trying to reach me.  The phone # is (610)
272-8504 and you now also have my work e-mail address.  Thanks again for any

help in advance, and I look forward to adding any knowledge that I might
aquire on these cars in the future!

Josh
Conicelli Mitsubishi


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Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2000 16:49:20 -0600
From: "Trevor L. James" <trevor@kscable.com>
Subject: Re: Team3S: EGT question.

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I posted on here about a month ago and all the responses called it
pretty normal for my mods...
Idle-740-800F
Cruise in 6th at 70mph-1360-1400F
WOT-1550-1610F
I've got my EGT probe pretty close to the head though. The gauge is
ultra responsive.

Trevor
96 R/T TT
12.44@114.6 0-60 3.90 Gtech
92 GMC Typhoon
13.72@100.2 0-60 4.90 Gtech

"Mohler, Jeff" wrote:

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>
> Ha! My TT idles at 780F....
>
> Trevor
> ---
>
> You;re kidding right..idles at 780 degrees?
>
> Just makin sure I read right.
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Date: Sat, 15 Jan 2000 00:30:33 -0500
From: Bill Wagner <wagner@sprynet.com>
Subject: Re: Team3S: Question...please advise

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DSMDealer:

How were you able to get ANY parts for the Getrag? Are you getting them
out of trashed units? All any of the dealerships will give us are
rebuilt or new transaxles. Needless to say, there's no documentation on
overhauling a unit in a service manual (just a "swap it" statement), so
very few people on this list will know how to check ANYTHING in it.


DSMDealer1@aol.com wrote:
>
> ***This is the NEW Team3S list. See message end for more info.***
>
> Being new to the list and the 3000GTs I wanted to post an e-mail to introduce
> myself and hopefully get some information from the gurus here.  I recently
> purchased a showroom condition '92 3000GT VR4 (Silver, loaded, black
> interior) for $8400.  Problem in (always a catch) is that the transmission is
> bad.  When Pep Boys replaced the clutch for the previous owner (please flame
> him, not me...I'd never take a car there) they neglected to refill the
> transmission.  So as a result, I have dropped the transmission and torn it
> apart.  I've found a supplier for the bearings and seals (which I definitely
> need), but am still looking for the seal that goes on the outside of the 5th
> gear housing and the oil director that fits underneath the main shaft bearing
> on the inside of the bell housing.  I have also found a cheap 6-speed
> transmission that I'm thinking about picking up.  My questions are as follows:
>
> 1) Does anyone know how to check a viscous on these cars to determine the
> condition of the unit?
>
> 2)  What would I have to change in order to use the 6-speed in the car since
> it originally came with a 5-speed? (Cables? Transfer Case? Linkages? Etc.?)
>
> 3) Does anyone know where i may be able to find the last minor parts for the
> transmission I currently have in order to put it back together? (oil
> director, seal on outside of casing)
>
> I appreciate any reply on this!
>
> Since I work at a Mitsu dealership in the Club/Internet/Tuner Sales dept.
> (parts), I would like to offer the same discounts to everyone here on the
> list as well. (25% off of Mitsubishi list..not inflated dealer pricing).
> This is basically good for any OEM parts with the exception of accesories
> (floormats, mudguards, roof racks, power winches, etc...(joking on the last
> couple!!!)).  I am the only person in this dept. that handles Mitsubishi's
> though, so please be patient when trying to reach me.  The phone # is (610)
> 272-8504 and you now also have my work e-mail address.  Thanks again for any
> help in advance, and I look forward to adding any knowledge that I might
> aquire on these cars in the future!
>
> Josh
> Conicelli Mitsubishi
>
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Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2000 22:01:29 -0800
From: "Darcy" <w.c.e@home.com>
Subject: Re: Team3S:  Getrag :was Question...please advise

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Hi Josh (DSMDealer)

There are quite a number of informative posts on the trannies and transfer
cases in our archives, including outlets that do rebuilds and/or provide
parts. The information you seek, however,  is a bit exclusive, and you might
be better advised to research with and/or contact them for the
parts/resources you seek. Jack T.  one of our  more elite members is
conducting a refabrication of the tranny, so you might wish to communicate
with him and his progress on a sideband. If you are successful in your
venture, and you seem resourceful from our sideband communication, I would
suggest you post back with results so that readers here, like Bill, can
become equally as informed. It is the  purpose of this tech forum to help
and share in as many ways like this, as we can.  Getrag, is and continues to
be, a reoccurring topic here and any good news is likely to spread like  a
wildfire.

BTW, if you are changing to a 6 speed you will also have to go with a
transfer case to match, as the spline patterns are completely different. The
6 speeds are still not better if you are increasing Horsepower to optimum
levels, and Jack's project will hopefully result in a healthier solution
than the present problematic gearbox...that is,  before the next millenium
;-)))

Best

Darc
- -----Original Message-----
From: Bill Wagner <wagner@sprynet.com>
To: team3S@stealth-3000gt.st <team3S@stealth-3000gt.st>
Date: Friday, January 14, 2000 9:33 PM
Subject: Re: Team3S: Question...please advise


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>
>
>DSMDealer:
>
>How were you able to get ANY parts for the Getrag? Are you getting them
>out of trashed units? All any of the dealerships will give us are
>rebuilt or new transaxles. Needless to say, there's no documentation on
>overhauling a unit in a service manual (just a "swap it" statement), so
>very few people on this list will know how to check ANYTHING in it.
>
>
>DSMDealer1@aol.com wrote:
>>
>> ***This is the NEW Team3S list. See message end for more info.***
>>
>> Being new to the list and the 3000GTs I wanted to post an e-mail to
introduce
>> myself and hopefully get some information from the gurus here.  I
recently
>> purchased a showroom condition '92 3000GT VR4 (Silver, loaded, black
>> interior) for $8400.  Problem in (always a catch) is that the
transmission is
>> bad.  When Pep Boys replaced the clutch for the previous owner (please
flame
>> him, not me...I'd never take a car there) they neglected to refill the
>> transmission.  So as a result, I have dropped the transmission and torn
it
>> apart.  I've found a supplier for the bearings and seals (which I
definitely
>> need), but am still looking for the seal that goes on the outside of the
5th
>> gear housing and the oil director that fits underneath the main shaft
bearing
>> on the inside of the bell housing.  I have also found a cheap 6-speed
>> transmission that I'm thinking about picking up.  My questions are as
follows:
>>
>> 1) Does anyone know how to check a viscous on these cars to determine the
>> condition of the unit?
>>
>> 2)  What would I have to change in order to use the 6-speed in the car
since
>> it originally came with a 5-speed? (Cables? Transfer Case? Linkages?
Etc.?)
>>
>> 3) Does anyone know where i may be able to find the last minor parts for
the
>> transmission I currently have in order to put it back together? (oil
>> director, seal on outside of casing)
>>
>> I appreciate any reply on this!
>>
>> Since I work at a Mitsu dealership in the Club/Internet/Tuner Sales dept.
>> (parts), I would like to offer the same discounts to everyone here on the
>> list as well. (25% off of Mitsubishi list..not inflated dealer pricing).
>> This is basically good for any OEM parts with the exception of accesories
>> (floormats, mudguards, roof racks, power winches, etc...(joking on the
last
>> couple!!!)).  I am the only person in this dept. that handles
Mitsubishi's
>> though, so please be patient when trying to reach me.  The phone # is
(610)
>> 272-8504 and you now also have my work e-mail address.  Thanks again for
any
>> help in advance, and I look forward to adding any knowledge that I might
>> aquire on these cars in the future!
>>
>> Josh
>> Conicelli Mitsubishi




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Date: Sat, 15 Jan 2000 10:39:40 +0100
From: "R.G." <robby@freesurf.ch>
Subject: Team3S: Urgent : Need part numbers for valves (in/out)

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Friends

I'm confused now ! Here in Switzerland we only have one MD number for the
intake and another for the outlet valve ... and this is not the same as the
US I have been given.

If you have the number(s), regardless of the year of the car (91-99), I'd
highly appreciate it. If there are different numbers for the year I
definitely need to know the difference of these guys.

Thanks in advance
Roger
93'3000GT TT



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Date: Sat, 15 Jan 2000 07:42:56 -0700
From: "Barry E. King" <beking@home.com>
Subject: RE: Team3S: Urgent : Need part numbers for valves (in/out)

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Roger,

Here's what I have for the '94 VR4

Intake Valve MD172315
Exhaust Valve MD168241


Regards,

Barry

> -----Original Message-----
>
> Friends
>
> I'm confused now ! Here in Switzerland we only have one MD number for the
> intake and another for the outlet valve ... and this is not the
> same as the
> US I have been given.
>
> If you have the number(s), regardless of the year of the car (91-99), I'd
> highly appreciate it. If there are different numbers for the year I
> definitely need to know the difference of these guys.
>
> Thanks in advance
> Roger
> 93'3000GT TT



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