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Team3S Digest        Saturday, January 1 2000        Volume 01 : Number 370




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Date: Thu, 30 Dec 1999 10:52:31 -0800
From: "Dave Holden" <dholden@deadkenny.northern-lights.bc.ca>
Subject: Team3S: T-Belt tension without the tool

I was wondering if anyone has set up their t-belt without using the special
tool that the manual calls for.  I know that the mechanic who did my last
t-belt does not have one and he managed to get it set up OK.  There must be
a way to pretension the belt without using the special tool.  When I did it,
I squeezed the bottom of the pulley against the center bolt.  That put
fairly good tension on it.  When I pulled the pin out of the auto-tensioner
it only moved out a tiny bit.

I will get the motor re-timed today and I will see if it has compression
(Please, please, please let it have compression. If it does I swear I will
never speed again).  I hope that I did not bend any valves because the motor
was not running yet when the belt skipped and as soon as I heard it skip I
stopped cranking the starter.  It did skip enough to allow interference
because it won't turn over using a breaker bar on the crank pulley bolt.  It
turns maybe 30 degrees in either direction and then stops dead.


Regards,
Dave Holden
Pearl White '91 R/T
Vancouver, BC

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Date: Thu, 30 Dec 1999 14:09:58 -0500
From: "Kevin Schappell" <kevin@pacarsearch.com>
Subject: RE: Team3S: Short Throw shifters.

Take the shifter out and cut an inch or two out above the pivot point.  Weld
it back together and you have a short shifter :-)  I used a chop saw to cut
the shifter and a stick welder to weld it all back together.  Shorter throws
now and looks a little cooler.

Hope it helps,
Kevin Schappell
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  Someone on the list that has actually done this may be
> able to provide you with more detailed information.  Good luck!
>
> Greg
>
>

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Date: Thu, 30 Dec 1999 14:17:15 -0500
From: "Kevin Schappell" <kevin@pacarsearch.com>
Subject: RE: Team3S: T-Belt tension without the tool

Sounds like a risky way to set it up to me.  When properly tensioned the pin
should go in and out of the hole easily.  I have heard of someone adjusting
the tension so the pin slides in and out easily.  I made the special tool
myself and used a torque wrench like the manual mentions.  I could remove
and reinstall the retaining pin with no problems after setting the
tensioner.  I have been loaning out the tools I made to anyone who needs
them. I made the spanner wrench for the crankshaft also.  I will be posting
the drawings of the tools to my site soon so anyone can make them.  If the
resources are not available to make them, any machine shop could make one
for a few bucks. (took me 1 hour to machine)

Hope it helps,

Kevin Schappell
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-stealth-3000gt@list.sirius.com
> [mailto:owner-stealth-3000gt@list.sirius.com]On Behalf Of Dave Holden
> Sent: Thursday, December 30, 1999 1:53 PM
> To: 3000GT Mailing (E-mail)
> Subject: Team3S: T-Belt tension without the tool
>
>
> I was wondering if anyone has set up their t-belt without
> using the special
> tool that the manual calls for.  I know that the mechanic who
> did my last
> t-belt does not have one and he managed to get it set up OK.
> There must be
> a way to pretension the belt without using the special tool.
> When I did it,
> I squeezed the bottom of the pulley against the center bolt.  That put
> fairly good tension on it.  When I pulled the pin out of the
> auto-tensioner
> it only moved out a tiny bit.
>

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Date: Thu, 30 Dec 1999 13:52:52 -0700
From: Dave Monarchi <monarchd@refuge.Colorado.EDU>
Subject: Re: Team3S: Re: Possible major oopsie   (DISCOUNT DISCONTINUED)

- --------

+> Ugh.  Yeah probably bent some.
+> "Cheapest" place for stock replacements (a crank, valves, springs) for me
+> was Rockland Mitsubishi in Maryland, 25% off (and "list" was less than my
+> local Mits dealer to start with at Rockland!)...1-914-353-2100, say are on
+> Internet 3000GT Club and understand they take off 25%.

fyi, I just called Rockland and they aren't offering the discount
anymore.. :(  The parts guy said they changed owners and are now
Action Mitsubishi..

however, as Jack said, I did find their list prices to be lower
anyway..  I was checking on a bra for my 95 VR4 which locally
was $158 list and at Rockland/Action was $144 list..  plus, they
were willing to give me 15% off with a little prodding.. 

fyi..


Dave

95 Black 3000GT VR4
87 Mica Red GTI G60
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Date: Thu, 30 Dec 1999 14:26:25 -0700
From: Dave Monarchi <monarchd@refuge.Colorado.EDU>
Subject: Team3S: carparts.com - 1/3 off first order over $100!

no, I'm not pushing the site..  just sharing info..

unfortunately this offer only exists through 12/31, but if any of you
can take advantage, I'd check it out!  I just spent WAAAY too much
money, but I found too many deals I couldn't pass up..

ie..

Borla catback: list $605.96  - 1/3 off = $404!
NGK PFR6J11  : list $11.71 each  - 1/3 off = $7.73 each

etc.. 

you need to go to this specific URL to take advantage of this..

http://www.carparts.com/enews/index_33.asp



Dave

95 Black 3000GT VR4
87 Mica Red GTI G60
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Date: Thu, 30 Dec 1999 16:38:23 -0600
From: wizards <wizards@mhtc.net>
Subject: Team3S: Rev Limiter

Greetings,

Does anyone know how a rev limiter functions on a Turbo 3S?   That is,
does it literally shut down the throttle before damaging RPM can be
forced on the engine by using WOT?  If so what is the "need" for a
redline on the tach. ...  just for visual feedback?  And as a related
question if an engine is pushed to close to or perhaps slightly over
redline does it insure damage ..... or are there safety factors built in
just like for every other engineered system.   Thanks in advance for
your help.

Greg
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Date: Thu, 30 Dec 1999 17:43:40 -0500
From: Michael Booker <mrbook@gate.net>
Subject: Re: Team3S: T-Belt tension without the tool

I'm having my T-belt changed next weekend by a private mechanic. Is
there any tool similar to the one described in the manual? If not, can
the timing tensuioner be doen W/O the tool?
Thanks in advance,
Matt
3/Si #311
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Date: Thu, 30 Dec 1999 14:47:55 -0800
From: Chris Winkley <cwinkley@plaza.ds.adp.com>
Subject: RE: Team3S: Rev Limiter

Greg...

I haven't seen a schematic to tell you what it does electrically, but what
it "feels" like is that it's cutting voltage to half the spark plugs. It's a
sensation of a bad "miss" condition, but certainly not a "kill" condition.
On the strip, if you shift when you hit it, it recovers instantly. In my
case, I had it removed when G-force modified my ECU.

From all my days (closing in on 30 years) drag racing, the "conventional
wisdom" has been that the redline is indeed a visual indicator of a point
beyond which you should not run continuously (some owners manuals also have
that in print). I've run many cars past redline with no damage. That doesn't
mean you should go out and run your cars without rev limiters beyond redline
at each and every shift. Eventually you will break something. With our cars
we have one MAJOR concern, the increased risk of detonation. This is not
only a risk at redline (or above) but the risk increases as you push the
engine.

Looking forward...Chris

- -----Original Message-----
From: wizards [mailto:wizards@mhtc.net]
Sent: Thursday, December 30, 1999 2:38 PM
To: stealth-3000gt@list.sirius.com
Subject: Team3S: Rev Limiter


Greetings,

Does anyone know how a rev limiter functions on a Turbo 3S?   That is,
does it literally shut down the throttle before damaging RPM can be
forced on the engine by using WOT?  If so what is the "need" for a
redline on the tach. ...  just for visual feedback?  And as a related
question if an engine is pushed to close to or perhaps slightly over
redline does it insure damage ..... or are there safety factors built in
just like for every other engineered system.   Thanks in advance for
your help.

Greg
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Date: Thu, 30 Dec 1999 18:10:56 -0500
From: "Pete Ryner" <pryner@ij.net>
Subject: RE: Team3S: Rev Limiter

I don't know how it works, but I can attest that it does.  When I first got
my car I was passing another vehicle when the car suddenly lost power.  I
finally realized that I was at 85 and was still in second!  Without the
limiter I know I would have been out an engine.  It seems to cut out right
at redline for mine.  Tachs are great if you spend the time to watch them,
but as fast as this car accelerates, by the time you look down, it may be
too late.  I'm glad its there!
Pete
'91 VR-4

- -----Original Message-----
From: owner-stealth-3000gt@list.sirius.com
[mailto:owner-stealth-3000gt@list.sirius.com]On Behalf Of wizards
Sent: Thursday, December 30, 1999 5:38 PM
To: stealth-3000gt@list.sirius.com
Subject: Team3S: Rev Limiter

Greetings,

Does anyone know how a rev limiter functions on a Turbo 3S?   That is,
does it literally shut down the throttle before damaging RPM can be
forced on the engine by using WOT?  If so what is the "need" for a
redline on the tach. ...  just for visual feedback?  And as a related
question if an engine is pushed to close to or perhaps slightly over
redline does it insure damage ..... or are there safety factors built in
just like for every other engineered system.   Thanks in advance for
your help.

Greg
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Date: Thu, 30 Dec 1999 17:41:08 -0600
From: Merritt <merritt@cedar-rapids.net>
Subject: Team3S: Race dates

If anyone is interested, I have a list of open-track/driving school events
across the country.
Just say the word, and I'll send it to you as a Word document.

Rich/old poop
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Date: Thu, 30 Dec 1999 16:48:40 -0800
From: "Jim Berry" <fastmax@home.com>
Subject: Re: Team3S: T-Belt tension without the tool

You can get the tool from Miller tool [ 1-800-801-5420 ] for twenty
bucks or so.

   Jim Berry



> I was wondering if anyone has set up their t-belt without using the special
> tool that the manual calls for.  I know that the mechanic who did my last
> t-belt does not have one and he managed to get it set up OK.  There must be
> a way to pretension the belt without using the special tool.  When I did it,
> I squeezed the bottom of the pulley against the center bolt.  That put
> fairly good tension on it.  When I pulled the pin out of the auto-tensioner
> it only moved out a tiny bit.


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Date: Thu, 30 Dec 1999 17:01:33 -0800
From: "Jim Berry" <fastmax@home.com>
Subject: Re: Team3S: Race dates

And just what might that word be ???? Please --- or else [ two words ] ---
money. I'd like a copy, please.

Jim Berry    [ looking forward to racing in 2000 -- I just need a hitch
                    for towing some necessities --- Beer, chairs, spares etc.]

PS. I took some photos of my GC camber plates to forward to you
but they didn't show the detail properly so I'll have to try again.





- ----- Original Message -----
From: Merritt <merritt@cedar-rapids.net>
To: <stealth-3000gt@list.sirius.com>
Sent: Thursday, December 30, 1999 3:41 PM
Subject: Team3S: Race dates


> If anyone is interested, I have a list of open-track/driving school events
> across the country.
> Just say the word, and I'll send it to you as a Word document.
>
> Rich/old poop
> For subscribe/unsubscribe info, our web page is http://www.bobforrest.com/Team3S.htm
>

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Date: Thu, 30 Dec 1999 17:05:14 -0800
From: "Jim Berry" <fastmax@home.com>
Subject: Re: Team3S: T-Belt tension without the tool

Post Script to my email --- for those too cheap to buy one I can provide
a description and dimensions. It's a very simple device.

   Jim Berry
==================================================
>
> You can get the tool from Miller tool [ 1-800-801-5420 ] for twenty
> bucks or so.
>
>    Jim Berry
>
>
>
> > I was wondering if anyone has set up their t-belt without using the special
> > tool that the manual calls for.  I know that the mechanic who did my last
> > t-belt does not have one and he managed to get it set up OK.  There must be
> > a way to pretension the belt without using the special tool.  When I did it,
> > I squeezed the bottom of the pulley against the center bolt.  That put
> > fairly good tension on it.  When I pulled the pin out of the auto-tensioner
> > it only moved out a tiny bit.
>
>
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Date: Thu, 30 Dec 1999 19:15:54 -0600
From: "Oskar" <swede@pclink.com>
Subject: Team3S: EGT - 1600F gauge sufficient?

Does anyone have experience with the Autometer EGT gauges?  Is the 1600F
scale sufficient, or do you regularly register more than 1600F?  I would
hate to install this gauge an later find out that it is inadequate.  I
currently have stock turbos/fuel and occasionally run past 15 psi of boost.
It is probably running quite lean at this point.

Thanks,
Oskar
'95 R/T TT

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Date: Thu, 30 Dec 1999 19:16:50 -0600
From: "Oskar" <swede@pclink.com>
Subject: Team3S: Autometer EGT probes

The Autometer EGT probes can be had with either a weld-in fitting, or a
stainless steel strap mount.

Is the strap mount any good?  It seems easier to install.

Thanks,
Oskar
'95 R/T TT


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Date: Thu, 30 Dec 1999 17:20:53 -0800
From: "Jim Berry" <fastmax@home.com>
Subject: Team3S: tire treatment -- old post

FWIW

some time ago someone mentioned a secret sauce to improve
tire traction, the Sept 99 issue of Circle Track has a test of
a product used to improve traction. Hotlap is sold by Pro-blend
Motorsport Products [ 1-800-331-9520 ]. Application is four coats
with a 30 min dry between each application to be repeated for
three days [ 12 coats total ]. The magazine tests show an
improvement of about .3 sec at Hickory Speedway [ 18 sec lap times ]

   Jim Berry

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Date: Thu, 30 Dec 1999 18:33:46 -0700
From: "Barry E. King" <beking@home.com>
Subject: RE: Team3S: Autometer EGT probes

The strap mounts work fine but are subject to potentially earlier failure.
Eventually the steel band gets stress cracks from vibration and heat (I
presume) and the probe will loosen or fall out if not caught during
preventative maintenance.

The weld in bungs are the way to go if possible, especially since there may
not be an ideal surface to properly mount the band depending upon where you
plan to place the pyrometer.


Barry

> -----Original Message-----
>
> The Autometer EGT probes can be had with either a weld-in fitting, or a
> stainless steel strap mount.
>
> Is the strap mount any good?  It seems easier to install.
>
> Thanks,
> Oskar
> '95 R/T TT

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Date: Thu, 30 Dec 1999 18:38:06 -0700
From: "Barry E. King" <beking@home.com>
Subject: RE: Team3S: EGT - 1600F gauge sufficient?

No direct experience with that particular gauge, but 1600 F is not adequate
IMO.  You may not want to run that high all the time but it is possible
under normal operating conditions to see 1750F or above.  If the gauge is
pegged you won't know what is really going on.

These are low end gauges in the grand scheme of things, and although they
probably work fine, the addage "you get what you pay for" applies.  If you
are going to use EGT as a tuning tool I'd recommend raising the budget a bit
if possible so you can get a reliable quality gauge.


Barry

> -----Original Message-----
>
> Does anyone have experience with the Autometer EGT gauges?  Is the 1600F
> scale sufficient, or do you regularly register more than 1600F?  I would
> hate to install this gauge an later find out that it is inadequate.  I
> currently have stock turbos/fuel and occasionally run past 15 psi
> of boost.
> It is probably running quite lean at this point.
>
> Thanks,
> Oskar
> '95 R/T TT

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Date: Thu, 30 Dec 1999 19:20:28 -0700
From: Dave Monarchi <monarchd@refuge.Colorado.EDU>
Subject: Re: Team3S: carparts.com - 1/3 off first order over $100!

It was brought to my attention that the prices don't appear to be
discounted, but you won't see the discount on any individual price..
it's applied to your grand total when you checkout..

hopefully some of you can still take advantage of this!  too bad they
don't list 15Gs and FMICs!  hehe..  :)

Dave

95 Black 3000GT VR4
87 Mica Red GTI G60


+>
+> no, I'm not pushing the site..  just sharing info..
+>
+> unfortunately this offer only exists through 12/31, but if any of you
+> can take advantage, I'd check it out!  I just spent WAAAY too much
+> money, but I found too many deals I couldn't pass up..
+>
+> ie..
+>
+> Borla catback: list $605.96  - 1/3 off = $404!
+> NGK PFR6J11  : list $11.71 each  - 1/3 off = $7.73 each
+>
+> etc.. 
+>
+> you need to go to this specific URL to take advantage of this..
+>
+> http://www.carparts.com/enews/index_33.asp

- --------

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Date: Thu, 30 Dec 1999 20:49:20 -0600
From: "Trevor L. James" <trevor@kscable.com>
Subject: Re: Team3S: EGT - 1600F gauge sufficient?

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Barry's right about the range. I have an Autometer 2/16" Sport-Comp and
1600F isn't quite enough. I barely peg out the gauge (It actually stops
at about 1640) after being in boost (15psi) for a full gear or two. I'm
sure if I did a top speed run the thing would be maxed for a long
period. As far as quality goes don't get duped into thinking that "it
costs more, it must be better" mentality either. Look at all the
professionals (NHRA, Nascar). They could buy any gauges they want and
they buy Autometer. Sorry but I'm not going to spend $200 on a boost
gauge when I can get one that works great for $45. I could care less if
there's a  japanese tuners name on it. To the best of my knowledge my
gauge works perfectly and is very responsive.

Trevor
96 R/T TT
12.86@107.2
12.68@111.4 0-60 4.14 Gtech
These runs were with $1250 in mods
92 GMC Typhoon
13.72@100.2 0-60 4.90 Gtech



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Barry's right about the range. I have an Autometer 2/16" Sport-Comp and 1600F isn't
quite enough. I barely peg out the gauge (It actually stops at about 1640) after being
in boost (15psi) for a full gear or two. I'm sure if I did a top speed run the thing
would be maxed for a long period. As far as quality goes don't get duped into thinking
that "it costs more, it must be better" mentality either. Look at all the professionals
(NHRA, Nascar). They could buy any gauges they want and they buy Autometer. Sorry but
I'm not going to spend $200 on a boost gauge when I can get one that works great for
$45. I could care less if there's a  japanese tuners name on it. To the best of my
knowledge my gauge works perfectly and is very responsive.

Trevor
96 R/T TT
12.86@107.2
12.68@111.4 0-60 4.14 Gtech
These runs were with $1250 in mods
92 GMC Typhoon
13.72@100.2 0-60 4.90 Gtech

"Barry E. King" wrote:

> No direct experience with that particular gauge, but 1600 F is not adequate
> IMO.  You may not want to run that high all the time but it is possible
> under normal operating conditions to see 1750F or above.  If the gauge is
> pegged you won't know what is really going on.
>
> These are low end gauges in the grand scheme of things, and although they
> probably work fine, the addage "you get what you pay for" applies.  If you
> are going to use EGT as a tuning tool I'd recommend raising the budget a bit
> if possible so you can get a reliable quality gauge.
>
> Barry
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> >
> > Does anyone have experience with the Autometer EGT gauges?  Is the 1600F
> > scale sufficient, or do you regularly register more than 1600F?  I would
> > hate to install this gauge an later find out that it is inadequate.  I
> > currently have stock turbos/fuel and occasionally run past 15 psi
> > of boost.
> > It is probably running quite lean at this point.
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Oskar
> > '95 R/T TT
>
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Date: Thu, 30 Dec 1999 20:17:11 -0700
From: "Barry E. King" <beking@home.com>
Subject: RE: Team3S: EGT - 1600F gauge sufficient?

The Japanese gauges are often ridiculously over-priced for what you get.
Autometer makes some great gauges as do other companies, but they also make
some questionable ones.  Without knowing which specific EGT gauge was being
looked at a cautionary word was in order.

In my experience with various boost and vacuum gauges, they are not usually
off by much.  As an example, I bought a Sun vacuum/boost gauge and pump for
$20.  It agrees exactly with my electronic gauge in my TRE MASC and the
analog SPI in the car.

Pyrometers are a different deal.  100-200 F the wrong way on an EGT gauge
can be the difference between a finely tuned engine and meltdown.  It is
important to know the calibration point used for the pyrometers and even
what class of pyrometer is used, since each of these factors determine the
amount of error and its effective range.


Barry

> -----Original Message-----
>
> Barry's right about the range. I have an Autometer 2/16" Sport-Comp and
> 1600F isn't quite enough. I barely peg out the gauge (It actually stops
> at about 1640) after being in boost (15psi) for a full gear or two. I'm
> sure if I did a top speed run the thing would be maxed for a long
> period. As far as quality goes don't get duped into thinking that "it
> costs more, it must be better" mentality either. Look at all the
> professionals (NHRA, Nascar). They could buy any gauges they want and
> they buy Autometer. Sorry but I'm not going to spend $200 on a boost
> gauge when I can get one that works great for $45. I could care less if
> there's a  japanese tuners name on it. To the best of my knowledge my
> gauge works perfectly and is very responsive.
>
> Trevor
> 96 R/T TT
> 12.86@107.2
> 12.68@111.4 0-60 4.14 Gtech
> These runs were with $1250 in mods
> 92 GMC Typhoon
> 13.72@100.2 0-60 4.90 Gtech

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Date: Thu, 30 Dec 1999 21:20:00 -0600
From: Merritt <merritt@cedar-rapids.net>
Subject: Team3S: Race Dates. Whew!

Holy mackeral!  I can't believe so many of youse guys asked for Race Dates.

Hope I got one to everybody. If you asked and don't get one by tomorrow,
ask again.
I went through a big long list of messages, and hope I got everybody.

Man, if all of you come to the tracks, I won't be running alone any more.
Gawd, it'd be great to have a whole contingent of 3000GT/Stealths out there
for a change.

And you don't gotta have a VR4/TT to play -- SLs run pretty dang good too.

If ANYBODY is serious about doing some road racing, I would be HAPPY  to
lend advice to beginners. I can't help the experts because I'm still
learning myself, but I can certainly help novices get through the first
couple of events.

Rich/old poop/94 VR4/still a student


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Date: Fri, 31 Dec 1999 09:47:54 -0600
From: Merritt <merritt@cedar-rapids.net>
Subject: Team3S: Race dates on the web

Curt Gendron was nice enough to post the open track/driver school race
dates on his web site:

http://www.geocities.com/MotorCity/Shop/5641/track-events2000.doc

It comes up just like the original Word document.
If you know of any additional dates, I urge you to send them to Jeff
Lacina, keeper of the flame. He updates the list on a regular basis.

Thanks, Curt.

Rich/old poop/94 VR4
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Date: Fri, 31 Dec 1999 10:08:42 -0800
From: "Dave Holden" <dholden@deadkenny.northern-lights.bc.ca>
Subject: Team3S: Belt tension set-up

I have set up my timing belt without the tool and allowed plenty of time for
the belt to stretch.  I have it set so that the locking pin can be removed
and then reinserted into the hole without having to wiggle the belt around.
It is my guess that the tension listed in the manual is a reference point so
that you can get the preload close and then you fine-tune it from there.
The procedure in the manual seems to indicate this also.  It seems like the
most critical factor is to get the preload on the belt exactly in balance
with the pressure exerted by the plunger.  The plunger must also be close to
the beginning of its range of motion.

I am going to try to fire the car again today and see if it runs.  If not,
looks like I have some valve shopping to do.  The motor turns over OK and I
don't hear any tapping from inside so I am hoping for the best ...

Regards,
Dave Holden
Pearl White '91 R/T
Vancouver, BC

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Date: Sat, 1 Jan 2000 09:59:14 EST
From: TrboDrvr@aol.com
Subject: Re: Team3S: Belt tension set-up

Dave:

    One quick question before you fire up your car.  Did you make sure that
your crankshaft is in time with your cams?  The crankshaft rotates twice for
every one rotation of your cam gears.  Therefore, since your belt jumped
teeth, it is possible that your crank is 180 degrees out of time even if the
timing marks line up.  I would use the method described in the service manual
to make sure everything is lined up since we do have interference motors.

Joe 91TT
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