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Team3S Digest       Wednesday, December 29 1999       Volume 01 : Number 368




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Date: Tue, 28 Dec 1999 08:37:16 +0100
From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Mikael_=C5kesson?= <vr4@bahnhof.se>
Subject: Re: Team3S: possible transfer case problem

It's Probably just the Clutch!

Test driving in 4:th gear with the engine under load at ~3500 rpm's then
"tap" the clutch, do the rpm rise and imideateley drops back to 3500 when
you release the clutch? or does it continue rise without acceleration?

If the later happens then I'm 99% that it is your clutch that is the
problem.

/Mikael, Sweden  http://www.3000gt.nu



- ----- Original Message -----
From: <Merlin916@aol.com>
To: <stealth-3000gt@list.sirius.com>
Sent: Tuesday, December 28, 1999 8:23 AM
Subject: Team3S: possible transfer case problem


  This is my first post but its a serious problem so here goes:

  I noticed this afternoon, while tooling around in 3rd, that if i floored
the gas the engine would just rev right up to about 5000 rpm before id get
any acceleration.  The turbo spools but theres just nothing getting to the
wheels.  Am i looking at a transfer case problem?  I just had it replaced
about 500 miles ago, and im about due for and oil change.  Any suggestions
as
to problems and/or solutions would be much appreciated.

Joe

'93 Stealth RT/TT
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Date: Tue, 28 Dec 1999 10:17:38 -0500
From: Rick <melvin@gamewood.net>
Subject: Re: Team3S: possible transfer case problem

The clutch is going.
RICK 3141 3si '91 Red Base + R/T Stealths
Merlin916@aol.com wrote:

>   This is my first post but its a serious problem so here goes:
>
>   I noticed this afternoon, while tooling around in 3rd, that if i floored
> the gas the engine would just rev right up to about 5000 rpm before id get
> any acceleration.  The turbo spools but theres just nothing getting to the
> wheels.  Am i looking at a transfer case problem?  I just had it replaced
> about 500 miles ago, and im about due for and oil change.  Any suggestions as
> to problems and/or solutions would be much appreciated.
>
> Joe
>
> '93 Stealth RT/TT
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Date: Tue, 28 Dec 1999 12:32:48 EST
From: Aso8@aol.com
Subject: Team3S: Cost of mods :)

In answer to the questions about costs...
I'm just getting some year end tax papers together & I see
I'm well over $30K. This is starting from my already
modified 11 sec base & is in no way a final number.
It does not include trailer, tow vehicle or the car itself.
Maybe we should start an investment club to go along
with a list of mods that can be done :)
I'd guess another $10K to go for completion.
Serious numbers for a serious car.
Arty 91 VR-4
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Date: Tue, 28 Dec 1999 14:24:18 -0700
From: "Ricardo Cousar" <rcousar@datawest.net>
Subject: Team3S: Boost/exhaust issue

I noticed an interesting problem, while having my exhaust system worked on.
Before I took my car into the muffler shop, I was using my cat as a tail
pipe. My boost was set  to 14 pounds with no problem and it held it at 14.
Now since I put the rest of the muffler system back on, im hitting 14 pounds
then dropping down to 5 pounds. I wonder what is going on.  Any leads on
this has anyone tried to run there car without an exhaust any ideas.

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Date: Tue, 28 Dec 1999 13:39:12 -0800
From: "Mohler,Anissa" <Anissa.Mohler@netapp.com>
Subject: Team3S: Plugs Question

I found this link recommending NGK brand PFR-6J-11 plugs for our cars...

http://www.3000gt.com/mods/mods-10a.htm#plugs

Does anyone have any comments or other information about the best plugs for a 95
VR-4? I was given a set of NGK wires for my car and want to do plugs and wires
at the same time.

Thanks!

Nissa
95 VR-4
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Date: Tue, 28 Dec 1999 22:39:03 +0100
From: "R.G." <robby@freesurf.ch>
Subject: Re: Team3S: Plugs Question

> I found this link recommending NGK brand PFR-6J-11 plugs for our cars...

These are the correct plugs. AFAIK, NGK doesn't build them anymore but they
are the same as the Mitsu plugs with the same numbers. Regap them to 0.034"
and you're ready for more boost :)

Roger
93'3000GT TT

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Date: Tue, 28 Dec 1999 22:48:03 +0100
From: "R.G." <robby@freesurf.ch>
Subject: Re: Team3S: Boost/exhaust issue

> Before I took my car into the muffler shop, I was using my cat as a tail
> pipe.

I do not correctly understand, do you mean there was no cat-back, just open
after the cat or what ?

> My boost was set  to 14 pounds with no problem and it held it at 14.
> Now since I put the rest of the muffler system back on, im hitting 14
pounds
> then dropping down to 5 pounds. I wonder what is going on.

Please note, more backpressure causes to reduce the pressure difference
before an after the turbine wheel. This causes the wheel to lower the speed
and therefore pressure produced is getting lowered as well. Now on low to
mid rpms, the backpressure is needed for more tourque while on the upper
range a maximum flow is required. With the open exhaust you'll not
experience the upper rpm restriction but you'll also have a reduce in low
end power and tourque.

The perfect exhaust for our cars has no pre-cats, a high flow cat and a
silent high flow muffler that provides as less as possible resistance in the
high end with a good backpressure in the lower. Not easy to do !

Roger
93'3000GT TT

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Date: Tue, 28 Dec 1999 13:51:40 -0800
From: "Scott Hung" <scottsh@earthlink.net>
Subject: O2 sensors (was Re: Team3S: EGT's)

>[Roger wrote:]
>>>I am currently running 18psi with the 550injectors and STOCK fuel
>>>pump.  My lights on the cyberdyne are sitting at FULL rich @ WOT
>First, full rich is not enough!...An A/F gauge is simply said ... not
>worth the money !

I agree with Roger.  Another list I'm on described A/F gauges (based
on production O2 sensors) as "a pretty light show".  The problem is
that production O2 sensors are sensitive only in a narrow range around
stoich - 14.7:1 A/F ratio.  To get accurate A/F ratios you need a
wideband O2 sensor.

For a more indepth discussion on O2 sensors see:
http://vehicle.me.berkeley.edu/~markw/efi/SAE920289/p4.gif

I refer to Figure 1 wherein the Y axis on the right is O2 millivolts and
the X axis is lambda (1.00 lambda = 14.7:1 A/F ratio).  Here, you see
that only in a very narrow range around stoich is the O2 sensor's
response dramatic.  Outside of that it shows very little response.  So,
I maintain that even as high as 13.5:1 A/F ratio (rich but not enough for
a turbo application) the gauge would still show full rich.


>Hence, the question "Do I REALLY need the HKS Cosmo pump?"

Find yourself a wideband O2 sensor and find out what's really
happening to answer that question.  Superior Dyno in Fairfield,
California charges $75 for 3 pulls on their dyno and wideband O2
sensor logging.  Course, if you're AWD you have a small logistical
problem.

Realize that you don't always hear detonation.  Reading plugs is
an inexpensive way to know if you're getting any, though.


> That is why I am having a tough time bringing myself to install the
>$400 fuel pump.

<gags>

$400?!  I don't know what fuel pump HKS uses, but there's a vehicle
application guide for 255lph Walbro (plenty for now) at:

http://members.home.com/syclone/APE/

Ah, here it is...'91 - '97 3000GT/Stealth $100 or $115.  Contact Ron
for more info.  He's a good guy.  If nothing else, it's cheap insurance!



Phew!  That was pretty long, but I guess I should introduce myself.  I
just joined a couple of days ago looking for more info on 3000s.  I don't
actually have the joy of owning one, but I know some owners and look
for technical discussions.  I'll primarily lurk, but if I can offer any
insights I'll do so!

Besides benchracing and talking about cars I run open tracks (aka
lapping sessions) with some of the local clubs in the Bay Area.  Hope
to see some of you out there!

Scott
'87 LX 5.0 - Daily driver:  Many mods and more to come!
'91 Syclone - Bone stock for lack of money
'73 240Z - Project car:  SBC 383, cage, fuel cell, Wilwoods...


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Date: Tue, 28 Dec 1999 19:51:06 +0100
From: Matthews <matthews@wiesbaden.netsurf.de>
Subject: Re: Team3S: buying parts via INTERNET

Thanx to all who responded.  I was unable to look up the part number but
submitted a description to Tall. Mitsu. via their web site.  They
identified the part and promptly responded with a price quote that
included the group discount ($16.96 vs $21.20).  A nice experience,
particularly after a disasterous E-commerce fiasco with a company in NYC
that "lost" my order for a digital camera and blew my wife's primary
Xmas present.  :-(

Also thanx to Henry in NZ who has the part I need and offered to ship it
to me!

The list comes through again, and the world grows smaller by the minute.

- --
Jim Matthews - Wiesbaden, Germany
mailto:matthews@wiesbaden.vistec.net (64 Kbps ISDN)
http://rover.wiesbaden.vistec.net/~matthews

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Jet Black '94 Dodge Stealth R/T Twin-Turbo AWD AWS 6-spd
Adjustable Active Suspension, Adjustable Exhaust System
K&N FIPK, A'PEXi Super AVC-R (1.0 bar @ 72% BADC)
A'PEXi Turbo Timer (30 sec), Blitz Blow-Off Valve
Magnecore spark plug wires, Redline ShockProof fluids
Abex metallic brake pads, custom braided brake lines
Michelin Pilot XGT-Z4 245/45ZR17, Top Speed: 168mph
G-Tech Pro: 0-60 4.79 sec, 1/4 13.16 sec @ 113.9 mph
1 Feb 99 Dyno Session: 406 SAE HP, 354 lb-ft torque

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Date: Wed, 29 Dec 1999 08:24:19 CST
From: "Curt Gendron" <curt_gendron@hotmail.com>
Subject: Team3S: Upper Midwest Gathering Update

Hey everyone,

Just wanted to post a quick update on the Upper Midwest Gathering that will
be happening in May at Wisconsin Dells.  The dates have been set.  It will
happen on May 19-21.  I've also made some updates to the webpage. Go check
out the webpage and sign up if your planning on coming.  I'm expecting over
40 3/Ses there.

Please e-mail me privatly with questions.

later,
Curt
UMG1 webpage: http://www.mn3s.org/upper-midwest.html
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