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Team3S Digest         Monday, December 6 1999         Volume 01 : Number 351




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Date: Sun, 5 Dec 1999 21:23:21 +1300
From: "B Collett" <hcollett@ihug.co.nz>
Subject: Team3S: VPC Wiring help

I thought about it and I already have the wiring loom for the fcon and Gcc
so I need to know exactly where I wire the VPC into the ECU.
If anyone has the VPC, it would be great if I could get a picture of the
wiring setup.

Thanks
Henry


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From: Aso8@aol.com <Aso8@aol.com>
To: hcollett@ihug.co.nz <hcollett@ihug.co.nz>
Cc: Aso8@aol.com <Aso8@aol.com>
Date: Sunday, 5 December 1999 04:25
Subject: Re: Team3S: VPC and GCC


>First, make sure the VPC has the right chip for the 550cc injectors. Then
you
>should make a plan of what you intend to do. Are you going to put in the
>Super mega flow intakes?
>What about a fuel pump upgrade and or an ECU upgrade. Where do you want to
>get to? If you're going to have to change the VPC chip (available from HKS
or
>G-Force may have some) then it can be ordered for your exact mods and
>intended use.
>Arty 91 VR-4
>
>In a message dated 12/04/1999 1:56:54 AM Eastern Standard Time,
>hcollett@ihug.co.nz writes:
>
><< Subj:     Team3S: VPC and GCC
> Date:  12/04/1999 1:56:54 AM Eastern Standard Time
> From:  hcollett@ihug.co.nz (B Collett)
> Sender:    owner-stealth-3000gt@list.sirius.com
> To:    stealth-3000gt@list.sirius.com
>
>
> I have just scored, VERY CHEAP a VPC and GCC, I have seen alot of people
> using them on there cars and would like any information on the setup and
> using them.
>
> Thanks
>
> Henry 3000 GT VR4
> 15'G's
> 550cc Injectors
> HKS EVC 4
>  >>
>

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Date: Sun, 05 Dec 1999 02:33:33 -0700
From: Dave Monarchi <monarchd@refuge.Colorado.EDU>
Subject: Team3S: infinity stereo / which changers?

I know I ask a lot of mundane questions, but bear with me..  it's
fairly short..

can anyone verify absolutely which pioneer model changers work with our
double-din infinity systems?  I know CDX-M30 has been mentioned, but I
have seen a CDX-M40, CDX-M50, and CDX-M100..  will any "M" series
(meaning the M bus I assume) work?

maybe this would be interesting for the FAQ?  (I went through the
archives, so I hope I didn't just miss the info..)

please reply privately, and I'll be happy to provide any responses for
the FAQ if people are interested..

thanks!

Dave

95 Black 3000GT VR4
87 Mica Red GTI G60
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Date: Sun, 5 Dec 1999 11:35:19 +0100
From: "R.G." <robby@freesurf.ch>
Subject: Re: Team3S: Off Topic:  Indra's new shop and # (Please Update your Address Book)

ADMIN WARNING :

This is/was correctly declarated as OFF TOPIC and was an informal post. This
was ok, but we do not want to discuss such stuff on the list and therefore
DO NOT SEND A REPLY to the whole list for this topic. If you have a question
or something to add please do this privately to the poster.

Thanks,
Roger for the admins


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Date: Sun, 05 Dec 1999 12:07:55 -0500
From: Michael Booker <mrbook@gate.net>
Subject: Team3S: Off topic, Fl Gathering...advanced notice

Hello everybody. Mark your calenders for the beginning of March, 2000 2
weeks before the 12 hours of Sebring. There will be a 3/S gathering at
the track, and all are invited to come! HSR (Historic sportscar Racing)
will have a tour stop there, and this will be a great opportunity to
check out old race cars up close and personal. Last year, I saw Geoff
Brabham's Nissan GTP car, old NASCARS, and some truly Vintage stuff like
Mini-Coopers. The car owners are very accomodating, and will let you get
right up and look at, take pictures of, and drool over the cars. Maybe
we can learn something. The Nissan GTP car runs 3 bars of boost when
qualifying, and 2.5 when racing. How? This would be a great chande to
learn and see these older cars in action. We can also (for a few bucks
extra) take a lap on the track, and a whole group of S/3 cars in a line
would be a sight to behold! Any questions, please email me Privately!
I would love to see you guys there!

Matt
#311
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Date: Sun, 5 Dec 1999 12:28:06 EST
From: TurboDrvn@aol.com
Subject: Re: Team3S: Off Topic:  Indra's new shop and # (Please Update your Address Bo...

In a message dated 12/4/99 6:24:22 PM Central Standard Time, nxiong@juno.com
writes:

<< I've been out of the loop even longer...  why shouldn't we order from
Apex?  cause I've had excellent dealings w/Apex..

  >>

The reason you had excellent dealings with Apex in the past is due to the
fact that Indra was the one who helped us all out; He is NO LONGER at Apex R
motorsport......he is at an new shop called MAX REV.  602-690-3767.

Nick......I know you have a Supra TT as well.......I just want you to know
that all my Supra TT friends are on the same page as I am......they are in
favor of supporting Indra and will continue to do so.

Regards,
Ahmed.
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Date: Sun, 5 Dec 1999 12:30:09 EST
From: TurboDrvn@aol.com
Subject: Re: Team3S: Off Topic:  Indra's new shop and # (Please Update your Address Bo...

My apologies everyone......that last message should have been a private one;
I didn't mean to use up our Tech list band width........any other future
questions from other members should come privately to me.....

Ahmed.
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Date: Sun, 05 Dec 1999 22:36:49 +0100
From: "R.G." <robby@swissonline.ch>
Subject: Team3S: Knock question (from TMO list)

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Interesting information on knock (recorded sound, etc.)

Roger
93'3000GT TT
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Date: Sat, 04 Dec 1999 14:30:23 -0800
From: Bill Sundahl <bsundahl@ix.netcom.com>
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I was slow responding to this thread because I wanted to get
a WEB site set up with some of the data that I have collected
over the last few months on this subject. 

I have some interesting sounds recorded from the knock sensor and
some spectrum analyzer output that some of you might find
interesting.  I also have some info. on how to connect to the
knock sensor without loading it down.  Check it out:
http://home.netcom.com/~bsundahl/knock/sound/KnockSounds.htm

Don't spend too much time trying to find an oscilloscope, you
won't see much.  It's a lot like looking at any other complex
sounds on a scope: there is a lot of signal there, but nothing
distinctive.  An audio amplifier is a lot more useful.  It is
interesting just what you can hear on the knock sensor. I just
realized last week that I can hear the fuel shut off when coasting!

What I can NOT hear is knock.  At least not that corresponds
reliably with the data logger.

My original goal was to build some sort of knock meter, or even
a better knock filter for the ECU, but now I am not so sure I
can do it.

A question for Todd: is there a simple input for knock on the
microcontroller (after the filter), which could be tapped and
brought out to some sort of gage or external logger?  I would be
very interested in seeing exactly what comes out of this filter.

This is the first time that I have tried to use my WEB space, so
let me know if something does not work right.  (Do all browsers
support .PNG format these days?)

I expect this to create a lot more questions than it answers,
but at least it gives you some idea what you are getting in to.

- -Bill



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Date: Sun, 5 Dec 1999 18:05:49 -0600
From: "Benson \"elmagoo\" Russell" <benson@2015.com>
Subject: Team3S: infinity stereo / which changers?

OK, this would be some good info because I went to several high-end AV
stores, and talked with Mitsubishi about this.  I have a '95 base model with
the infinity 6 speaker system.  It has the 200 watt power amp, and the 6
disc changer.  The head unit from that year only had a cassette in the dash.
The newer models actually have a single CD, and cassette.  My goal is that I
wanted to just put a newer model head unit in there because I want the
changer, and a single-CD in dash.  Well Mitsu. said that the new head units
by themselves (as in not sold with a car) are $2000.  Basically they really
try to discourage selling head units indiviually :).  So I go to several
high-end AV shops in town to see about just getting a head unit to work with
everything else.  They said no after-market head unit will work with the 6
disc changer (even though it is a Pioneer) because the OEM ones for the
dealers use specialized connections for their head units.  They also said
that even if I got a new head unit and disc changer, they couldn't use the
power amp because of the same reason.  So basically it would cost me $1500
to get a new head unit, changer, and equivalent power amp.  So the only
thing I could keep would be the speakers.

I personally think this is ludicrous, and there's got to be a way to connect
a newer head unit to that disc changer and power amp, but I don't know where
to go for this?  Any suggestions from anybody who's had to deal with this
before?


Latuh fuh U,
Benson
benson@2015.com

"-Do you ever have second thoughts?
- -When do I ever have first thoughts?"

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Date: Sun, 5 Dec 1999 17:19:06 -0800
From: "Mohler, Jeff" <jeff.mohler@netapp.com>
Subject: RE: Team3S: Water Injection / temperatures

:> anyone tried water wetter from Redline to help reduce engine temps?
:
:Water wetter is a coolant (addon ?) and will keep the engine
:running cooler. But on our cars, this is not a problem and
:therefore may not help a lot if any.
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WW doesnt exactly help an overheat issue, as it does heat localization in the
cooling jackets.

WW prevents cavitation in the cooling jakcets, which causes localized hot spots
on the cylinder walls.

It basically acts as a wetting agent for heat transfer.  Because water with
antifreeze is far from a perfect heat-transfer liquid, the metal CAN create a
bubble of steam on the jacket wall itself.  This is difficult to cool quickly
and make go away, and at the same time raises the temps in that spot of the
cylinder wall greatly.

A second way to help prevent this, is a higher pressure radiator cap.
Cavitation is a result of pressure/temperature math, at a certain point water
will vaporize.

The perfect combination for coolant, is 100% distilled water.  But being that
some of us expereince SOME freezing, a bi-yearly flush using A/F in the winter
months, and a pure water with a few bottles of WW in the summer is optimal.

SWW includes agents to prevent corrosion from uses with different metals in the
system, a lubrication agent for your water pump shaft and seals, and looks like
kool-aid too!

Ive been on this procedure for about 4 years on my Supra, and Im consistently
about 20Hp and 30Lbs of torque above where I "should" be on the MOD levels Im
at.
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Date: Mon, 6 Dec 1999 11:18:26 +0200
From: "Oleg-Telia" <Oleg@telia.lv>
Subject: Re: Team3S: infinity stereo / which changers?

The new Kenwood DPX-510 is the best for 3kgt, it have a single CD, and
cassette. But it doesn't work with stock changer and amp.
Also, you must to replace all infinity speakers, because you couldn't use
the new ampl with old speakers sistem (not "speakers", but really "speakers
sistem").

Oleg, 3si #0441,
www.3000gt.lv

> OK, this would be some good info because I went to several high-end AV
> stores, and talked with Mitsubishi about this.  I have a '95 base model
with
> the infinity 6 speaker system.  It has the 200 watt power amp, and the 6
> disc changer.  The head unit from that year only had a cassette in the
dash.
> The newer models actually have a single CD, and cassette.  My goal is that
I
> wanted to just put a newer model head unit in there because I want the
> changer, and a single-CD in dash.  Well Mitsu. said that the new head
units
> by themselves (as in not sold with a car) are $2000.  Basically they
really
> try to discourage selling head units indiviually :).  So I go to several
> high-end AV shops in town to see about just getting a head unit to work
with
> everything else.  They said no after-market head unit will work with the 6
> disc changer (even though it is a Pioneer) because the OEM ones for the
> dealers use specialized connections for their head units.  They also said
> that even if I got a new head unit and disc changer, they couldn't use the
> power amp because of the same reason.  So basically it would cost me $1500
> to get a new head unit, changer, and equivalent power amp.  So the only
> thing I could keep would be the speakers.
>
> I personally think this is ludicrous, and there's got to be a way to
connect
> a newer head unit to that disc changer and power amp, but I don't know
where
> to go for this?  Any suggestions from anybody who's had to deal with this
> before?
>
>
> Latuh fuh U,
> Benson
> benson@2015.com
>
> "-Do you ever have second thoughts?
> -When do I ever have first thoughts?"
>
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