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Date:
Mon, 15 Nov 1999 17:56:22 -0800
From: "Sam Shelat" <
sshelat@erols.com>
Subject: Re:
Team3S: 550cc Injectors
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You need an AFC to adjust the extra fuel you are
dumping in there=20
with the larger injectors. Your
stock ECU can not adjust for the =
extra
fuel
flow.
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Sam 95 VR4
=20
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From:
B Collett <
hcollett@ihug.co.nz>
To: team3s <
stealth-3000gt@list.sirius.com>
Date: Sunday, November 14, 1999 10:03 PM
Subject: Team3S:
550cc Injectors
=20
=20
I
have just installed my new engine, Forged Pistons, 15'Gs and 550cc
=
injectors.
My injectors have a different Ohm
requirement so I have some =
resistors hooked into the injectors, I am not
sure if this is working =
and my car is running VERY
rich.
Anyone have some ideas, I am putting the standard
injectors back in =
tomorrow and running standard boost to run engine
in.
Any help would be great, I have to get the thing
working by =
saturdays flying quater, 180kph+ easy??
Henry
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2><B>-----Original
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hcollett@ihug.co.nz</A>><BR><B>To:=
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<DIV><FONT color=3D#000000 size=3D2>I have just installed my new
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Pistons, 15'Gs and 550cc
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into the injectors, I am =
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this is working and my car is running VERY
=
rich.</FONT></DIV>
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putting
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standard boost to =
run engine=20
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Date:
Mon, 15 Nov 1999 18:11:54 -0800
From: "Sam Shelat" <
sshelat@erols.com>
Subject: Re:
Team3S: Scratch one more Getrag
Mine was diagnosed as a porous metel
problem, but it was also from the
gasket area of transfer
case. The
whole bottom looked like oil was weeping through the metel case.
I guess
Kormex
will get another set of good syncros from it!
Sam 95 VR4
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-----Original Message-----
From: Merritt <
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To:
Darcy Gunnlaugson <
wce@telus.net>;
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Date:
Monday, November 15, 1999 2:10 PM
Subject: Re: Team3S: Scratch one more
Getrag
>>So where is it leaking??
>
>Dunno. The
Mitsu dealer put tracer in it, told me to drive around for a few
>days,
and bring it back. We put it up today, and the tracer is everywhere,
>but
the mechanic can't find the source, even with his UV light. He
suspects
>its the rear seal, but can't tell for
sure.
>
>Rich/old poop/94VR4/tranny
killer
>>
>
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Date:
Mon, 15 Nov 1999 19:29:28 -0500
From: Del A Kolasinski <
pearlvr42c@juno.com>
Subject: Re:
Team3S: 550cc Injectors
I believe that this is something that we need to
dig into a little
further. Here is why, my '91 VR4 with 15G's,
550's, pump, VPC,GCC, etc.
has both the VPC and the GCC set all the way
lean. In top of 3rd gear I
hit o2 voltages of 1.05 to 1.17 WAY
rich. A friend has a '93 VR4 with
550's, VPC, GCC, and an AFC that
still runs rich, and 2 VR4's that a
local shop did installed VPC's with AFC's
in each car with 550's and they
to run 1+ in the o2 voltage at top of
3rd.
One thing in common--ALL 550 injectors are from R.C. Engineering.
Now I
also think the VPC 550 chip could play a roll, but look at how many
fuel
computers are set to lean and all these cars still run rich, something
is
not right. My gas milage used to be good and now SUCKS.
What is going on here? Injectors, fuel computers, what the hell is
to
blame? You just do not know how frustrating it is knowing that your
car
SHOULD go 1 second and 6mph faster in the 1/4 mile.
Del
Kolasinski
HELP ME
PLEASE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Date:
Tue, 16 Nov 1999 00:29:13 -0500
From: Bill Wagner <
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Subject: Team3S:
REPORTING GETRAG FAILURES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
There is a guy (JC) on the
www.3si.org web site that's collecting
data
about Getrag failures. IF YOUR GETRAG HAS FAILED ON YOU, PLEASE GO
TO
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Date:
Tue, 16 Nov 1999 03:02:40 EST
From:
XxFiretamerxX@aol.comSubject: Re:
Team3S: REPORTING GETRAG FAILURES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Please Post this to
everyone in the list...maybe someone can help me!!!!
I NEED HELP!! I have
found this Stealth TT and I need to find a reputible 2nd
chance financing
place for a loan! Here is the deal...I had to declare
bankruptcy in the last
year as a resault of my divorce (damn bitch) and my
credit is shot. I do
have a good job, clearing 2K a month, and had
re-affirmed my stealth I
currently own. So there is some continuous payment
history. I don't have any
other bills x-cept rent and other living expenses.
This is the car I have
been waiting for!! And I don't want it to pass me by
because of circumstance
( I can easily make mo. pymts on the car) Anyone that
knows someone, or
knows of companies pleeeeeaaaze let me know. The caris only
$15K and in
awesome shape!Thanks for any suggestions and help!!! Ed
Currently:'93 Stealth
R/T (Pearl)
Wants: '92 Stealth TT (Red)
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Date:
Tue, 16 Nov 1999 10:40:22 +0100
From: "R.G." <
robby@freesurf.ch>
Subject: Re:
Team3S: 550cc Injectors
> further. Here is why, my '91 VR4
with 15G's, 550's, pump, VPC,GCC, etc.
> has both the VPC and the
GCC set all the way lean. In top of 3rd gear I
> hit o2 voltages of
1.05 to 1.17 WAY rich.
O2 voltages OVER 1 volt ??? I once set the mixture
in the midrange super-rich and the car began to stutter. The datalog showed
0.99v and I never saw higher values than 1V ... interesting !
> A
friend has a '93 VR4 with
> 550's, VPC, GCC, and an AFC that still runs
rich,
VPC, GCC and AFC ?? This must be the bridge of the Enterprise
:)
> One thing in common--ALL 550 injectors are from R.C.
Engineering. Now I
> also think the VPC 550 chip could play a roll,
but look at how many fuel
> computers are set to lean and all these cars
still run rich, something is
> not right.
First, the VPC chip plays
a very important role. But then also remember what the computers do. They simply
alter the frequency, voltage of the output signal to the ECU. The larger the
injectors, the lower the signal as this will tell the ECU to choose a lower fuel
setting and opens the injectors less long. During closed loop this may work ok
with not-so-rich readings but at WOT the signal sent by the VPC seems to be just
too high and the values on the fuel map is therefore just too big.
>
What is going on here? Injectors, fuel computers, what the hell is to
>
blame?
The VPC program should taking care of this as it controls the
rising rate as well as the curve that follows the intake pressure. Another way
would be to let the ECU tuned by altering the fuel MAP. But IMHO, the fuel
controller should taking care of this, otherwise you have more variables and
more programs that shoudl be altered. I think that HKS or someone else should
have a good program around that helps to get rid of the problem. The RCs can be
to rich as one said to me that the 550 flow like 560-570 and therefore the
programs run too rich. This can be altered by the AFCs but more important is the
VPC that looks for the boost and then alters the signal for fuel
delivery.
My idea is that you maybe contact Bob Fontana, as I'd name him
as the VPC Guru. He may have a solution or at least the better knowledge as I
have.
Roger
93'3000GT TT
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Date:
Tue, 16 Nov 1999 13:22:12 -0500
From: "Michael Chan" <
michael.chan@hcl.com>
Subject:
Team3S: PVI International
Anyone hear about a company called PVI
International? [Platinum Vapor
Injector] Articles have been popping every so
often and I was wondering if
this is something that is worth investing
in.
Apparently the unit will add small quantities of platinum to the
air-fuel
mixture entering your engine. A 5 year US govt.. study shows
" ... greater
fuel savings with the P.V.I than the 22% claimed by the
developer." I think
the unit was only a few hundred dollars, and
it is now available in Canada.
What's up with this?
1-877-537-7427
Mike
91TT
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Date:
Tue, 16 Nov 1999 10:32:08 -0800
From: "Mohler, Jeff" <
jeff.mohler@netapp.com>
Subject:
RE: Team3S: PVI International
No offense, but Id bet my stock options
it's all BS.
Platinum..hmm..
Just where do you go to buy this
rare, more expensive than gold, element?
:-----Original
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:From: Michael Chan [
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:Sent:
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:
:
:Anyone hear about a company called PVI
International? [Platinum Vapor
:Injector] Articles have been popping every so
often and I was
:wondering if
:this is something that is worth investing
in.
:
:Apparently the unit will add small quantities of platinum to
:the air-fuel
:mixture entering your engine. A 5 year US govt..
study shows
:" ... greater
:fuel savings with the P.V.I than the 22%
claimed by the
:developer." I think
:the unit was only a few
hundred dollars, and it is now
:available in Canada.
:
:What's up with
this? 1-877-537-7427
:
:Mike
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Date:
Tue, 16 Nov 1999 14:01:07 -0500
From: "Michael Chan" <
michael.chan@hcl.com>
Subject: Re:
Team3S: PVI International
No kidding, I'm skeptical myself. Their
ad is soo cheap "U.S. Consumer
Protection has determined that the fuel
saving claims of this advertisement
are 100% accurate."
Nothing
is 100% accurate... all they give is a toll free
number
877-537-7427
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From: Mohler,
Jeff <
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To:
'Michael Chan' <
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Date:
Tuesday, November 16, 1999 1:30 PM
Subject: RE: Team3S: PVI
International
>No offense, but Id bet my stock options it's all
BS.
>
>Platinum..hmm..
>
>Just where do you go to buy
this rare, more expensive than gold, element?
>
>:-----Original
Message-----
>:From: Michael Chan [
mailto:michael.chan@hcl.com]
>:Sent:
Tuesday, November 16, 1999 10:22 AM
>:To:
stealth-3000gt@list.sirius.com>:Subject:
Team3S: PVI International
>:
>:
>:Anyone hear about a company
called PVI International? [Platinum Vapor
>:Injector] Articles have been
popping every so often and I was
>:wondering if
>:this is something
that is worth investing in.
>:
>:Apparently the unit will add small
quantities of platinum to
>:the air-fuel
>:mixture entering your
engine. A 5 year US govt.. study shows
>:" ...
greater
>:fuel savings with the P.V.I than the 22% claimed by
the
>:developer." I think
>:the unit was only a few
hundred dollars, and it is now
>:available in
Canada.
>:
>:What's up with this?
1-877-537-7427
>:
>:Mike
>:91TT
>:
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Date:
Tue, 16 Nov 1999 13:12:47 -0600
From: Matt Jannusch <
MAJ@BigCharts.com>
Subject: RE:
Team3S: PVI International
> Apparently the unit will add small
quantities of platinum to
> the air-fuel mixture entering your
engine. A 5 year US
> govt.. study shows " ... greater fuel
savings with the
> P.V.I than the 22% claimed by the
developer." I think
> the unit was only a few hundred dollars,
and it is now
> available in Canada.
It isn't platinum, it is
peroxide. As in hydrogen peroxide... If I remember correctly.
There's a kit made for snowmobiles, and actually does give more horsepower and
cleaner emissions. I hadn't heard of a version for cars, but it makes
sense. I don't have any direct data at all, just info I remember from an
article about it in a snowmobile magazine last season.
- -Matt
'95
3000GT Spyder VR4
'00 Polaris XCR-800
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Date:
Tue, 16 Nov 1999 14:22:08 -0500
From: "Michael Chan" <
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Subject: Re:
Team3S: PVI International
There is too many 'PVI Internationals' out
there. I just did an internet
search. The article / advertisement
is in front of me and they are stating
that it adds microscopic quantities of
platinum.
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To:
stealth-3000gt@list.sirius.com
<
stealth-3000gt@list.sirius.com>
Date:
Tuesday, November 16, 1999 2:13 PM
Subject: RE: Team3S: PVI
International
>> Apparently the unit will add small quantities
of platinum to
>> the air-fuel mixture entering your engine. A 5
year US
>> govt.. study shows " ... greater fuel savings with
the
>> P.V.I than the 22% claimed by the developer." I
think
>> the unit was only a few hundred dollars, and it is
now
>> available in Canada.
>
>It isn't platinum, it is
peroxide. As in hydrogen peroxide... If I
remember
correctly. There's a kit made for snowmobiles, and actually does
give
more horsepower and cleaner emissions. I hadn't heard of a version
for
cars, but it makes sense. I don't have any direct data at all, just
info I
remember from an article about it in a snowmobile magazine last
season.
>
>-Matt
>'95 3000GT Spyder VR4
>'00 Polaris
XCR-800
>
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Date:
Tue, 16 Nov 1999 11:43:58 PST
From: "Greg Gonzales" <
greggonzo1@hotmail.com>
Subject:
Team3S: PVI
Heres their website.
http://www.pvitech.com/Platnum?
hmmm.
Greg
92 RT
TT
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Date:
Tue, 16 Nov 1999 20:41:01 +0100
From: Matthews <
matthews@wiesbaden.netsurf.de>
Subject:
Re: Team3S: Aero downforce
Mike Chapleski wrote:
> Darcy
wrote:
> > Jim Matthews, our European Admin in Germany, is off to
Bavaria at the moment
> > or he'd likely respond personally on his
experiences on the Autobahns there
> > in his Stealth TT. He's had no
probs taking it to the max! However, the
> > Stealth wing and
front air dam are not quite as effective at light speed for
> >
stabilization purposes, as the Mitsu's rear adjustable wing and front
>
> adjustable dam.
>
> Well I have had my '95 Stealth RT TT up to
155 mph on the speedo here in Germany. I
> have not gone faster
because my tires are a little thin, however, that will be fixed
> this
week.:) Anyway, at 140 plus I have not noticed the car wanting to
"float" or loose
> control in any way.
As several have
stated, the rear wings on both the Stealth and the VR-4
appear to produce
little useful downforce. However, the car is VERY
stable at high
speed. I have had mine up to around 170 mph (speedo)
several times and
it felt great. I have noticed a bit of a floating
sensation (light in
the rear) in curves at 130+ mph but last week's
alignment showed that my
right-rear wheel was quite a bit out of spec.
I haven't had a chance to test
for improved stability but I'm
optimistic.
How would lowering the car
affect aerodynamics and stability at high
speeds?
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Date:
Tue, 16 Nov 1999 11:57:12 -0800
From: "Mohler, Jeff" <
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Subject:
RE: Team3S: Aero downforce
:How would lowering the car affect
aerodynamics and stability at high
:speeds?
- ---
That would help
at least aerodynamically (less float) but then you have to
consider how the
suspension reacts to the road, thats more serious science at
high
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Date:
Tue, 16 Nov 1999 11:58:49 -0800
From: "Darcy Gunnlaugson" <
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Subject: Team3S: Re
Clutches
Team;
With the recent controversy on aftermarket and OME
clutches, and in
particular
with some of the comments on RPS, I decided to
write to Rob and alert him
to some of this negative feedback. As was noted
previously I felt I was
treated fairly
by them. For your
information here is RPS's response.
"It is interesting how the
internet has become both a blessing and a
curse. If a company makes a couple
mistakes it is amplified 10 fold.
What these people don't understand is the
amount of clutches we ship out
every year! The failure percentile is VERY
low.
Yes we had a few problems with our early carbon units but even then
only
a few came back compared to the total amount that were shipped out
at
the time. Unfortunately there isn't a clutch company on earth that has
a
spotless record. All the companies claim to have the best product
going.
All the companies also have customers who are unhappy. It is
inevitable.
We do the best we can to help our customers with the problems
they may
have with our products. We feel we have a very good relationship
with
our customers. That is the best a company can offer.
"
Best
Darc
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Date:
Tue, 16 Nov 1999 14:09:22 -0600
From: "Landis, Michael" <
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Subject: Team3S:
H202 injection for automotive applications?
Hi - I stumbled across your
web-site while looking for information about,
and examples of, H202 injection
systems as an alternative to H20 injection
on turbo-charged/supercharged
automotive engines. Generally, H2O injection
is used to help cool the
incoming air charge (which is heated due to
compression by the turbo,
etc.). The H2O is injected as a mist in nominal
amounts and helps to
reduce detonation. I understand (from my high-school
chemistry years
ago) and your web-site FAQ and technical pages that H2O2
reduces to H2O and
O2. However, I suspect that there is actually an
intermediate step as
the single oxygen atom separates from the H2O2
molecule, but before it joins
up with another single oxygen atom to form the
more stable O2.
If this
reaction (H202 - > H2O + O) takes place quickly under heat and
pressure,
then hydrogen peroxide would seem to be an excellent candidate for
this
application, as you would get the benefit of heat energy absorption (by
the
H2O) as well as increased oxygenation as a contributor to the
combustion
process.
My questions are:
In the presence of heat
(150-300F?) and pressure (12-20 PSI), what happens
to H2O2? And how
quickly?
Any ideas how quickly the O becomes O2 in the same
environment? I know that
atomic oxygen is a strong oxidizing agent.
(I've studied ozone injection
water purification systems some...) Any
chance of oxidation problems in the
turbo plumbing/intercooler?
If it
doesn't break down very quickly, then what happens to H2O2 in the
presence of
hydrocarbons (gasoline) and flame? Are there any adverse
chemical
reactions to be aware of?
I'm sure that none of these questions are new -
hot rodding has been around
for a loonngg time - and I suspect that
this has been researched by someone,
somewhere, sometime. And I
understand that this application may be outside
of the realm of your usual
line of business, but I'd be grateful for any
help you might give me.
If you are aware of any technical papers (but not
TOO technical) or other
resources that address this (or related) application
for hydrogen peroxide,
I'd appreciate a push in the right direction.
Thanks in advance for your
time,
Michael
PS. I've cc'd this to the Mitsubishi
3000GT/Stealth mailing list, wondering
if any of you guys have explored H2O2
injection in your vehicles, and with
what results....
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Date:
Tue, 16 Nov 1999 13:02:31 -0800
From: Chris Winkley <
cwinkley@plaza.ds.adp.com>
Subject:
RE: Team3S: Aero downforce
Jim...
Unless the laws of physics and
aerodynamics have completely vanished from my
head (always a possibility),
anything that is done to remove the pillow or
cushion of air under the
vehicle will improve stability at high speeds.
Remember it's the lift that
allows planes to leave the ground. A complete
air dam around the car would be
ideal from a stability perspective (look at
the cars that have made top
speeds on the Bonneville salt flats). However, I
doubt you'll find any roads
around that are flat enough for that sort of
package.
Soooo, lowering
springs not only bring the air dam closer to the ground
(which helps remove
that air pillow), but they allow stiffen the suspension
so there is less
movement from uneven road surfaces. My experience in the
140+ mph arena with
my VR4 would indicate that dropping the car 1" with
progressive springs
was a great handling improvement. As already noted, our
cars, being close to
two tons, are well designed for aerodynamics and
naturally want to hug the
ground.
I'm not sure the rear foil has the same value add, particularly
if someone
who posted 150 lbs of downforce was correct. Still every pound of
downforce
helps combat the lift from underneath. This is particularly true
when the
bulk of the vehicle weight is up front. No doubt most of us have had
the fun
of a light back end coming around in a corner (usually with RWD
cars). I
wouldn't like to think of how many times you could spin if the back
snapped
around at 170 mph!!!
Looking forward...Chris
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-----Original Message-----
From: Matthews [
mailto:matthews@wiesbaden.netsurf.de]
Sent:
Tuesday, November 16, 1999 11:41 AM
To: Team3S
Subject: Re: Team3S: Aero
downforce
<snip>
How would lowering the car affect
aerodynamics and stability at high
speeds?
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Date:
Tue, 16 Nov 1999 15:55:13 -0600
From: Matt Jannusch <
MAJ@BigCharts.com>
Subject: RE:
Team3S: Re Clutches
> The failure percentile is VERY low.
Hmm,
it really sounded like at least half the 3/S Turbo Carbon Claw clutches that
came out of the group purchase were bad, with a significant number of the
"replacement" clutches also being bad. That's a pretty high
failure percentage in my book. I'd think something like 5% might be
acceptable, but 50%+ is not. There was also mention of RPS making promises
to send a check to help with the costs incurred in having a clutch replacement
re-done, and then checks being a different amount or no check at
all.
Since I didn't buy one of those clutches, I won't comment any more
than that.
- -Matt
'95 3000GT Spyder VR4
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Date:
Tue, 16 Nov 1999 17:12:29 -0500
From: "Andy Carberry" <
acarberry@snet.net>
Subject: Re:
Team3S: Re Clutches
Well I was one of the first to get my RPS Turbo
Carbon Clutch from RPS on
the group purchase and it appears to be holding up
OK. I even ran it at a
strip for the first time.(Quickening
Gathering) I ended up smoking it a
little on the last run ( what a
terrible smell :) ) but it was fine on the
ride back to the
Cape.
Andy
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Date:
Tue, 16 Nov 1999 15:57:43 -0800
From: "Darcy Gunnlaugson" <
wce@telus.net>
Subject: Re: Team3S: Re
Clutches
>> The failure percentile is VERY low.
>
>Hmm,
it really sounded like at least half the 3/S Turbo Carbon Claw
clutches that
came out of the group purchase were bad, with a significant
number of the
"replacement" clutches also being bad. That's a pretty
high
failure percentage in my book. I'd think something like 5% might
be
acceptable, but 50%+ is not. There was also mention of RPS making
promises
to send a check to help with the costs incurred in having a
clutch
replacement re-done, and then checks being a different amount or no
check at
all.
>
>Since I didn't buy one of those clutches, I
won't comment any more than
that.
Hmmm...a lot of comment there
Matt, for no personal experience with the
product .
I'd be real
interested in the actual failure rate of these clutches, as I am
a purchaser
myself. However, mine is not installed, so I am not in the
position to
comment, let alone pass on heresy as to their attributes or
lack
thereof. My treatment by RPS was impeccable, however, and I would ask
for
those in the group purchase to comment as Andy recently has, as
to
their satisfaction or not ,with the product, and the customer service.
Only
in this way are rumors dispelled or given credence. Brad? Roger?
Others?
Best
Darc
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