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Date:
Thu, 4 Nov 1999 17:54:07 -0800
From: "Jim Berry" <
fastmax@home.com>
Subject: Re: Team3S:
Rear brake change ('91 to '94+)
> hand brake is a drum inside the
rotor, so you can use any caliper you can fit
> in the
rear
>=====================================================
The
front caliper requires the slightly larger rotor which would preclude the
use
of the rear E brake.
=========================================================
> two
pistons do not provide any additional clamping force at all. they are
>
just a bit more rigid and apply uniform force. it is the piston diameter, and
> to an extent the pad area which matters. assuming same rotor
dia.
>=======================================================
I
assumed that two pistons would have twice the area of a single piston ---
not
necessarily correct but I'm sure the dual piston has more area then
the
single piston. More area equal more clamping
force.
==================================================
> front
calipers would be superb.
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Date:
Fri, 5 Nov 1999 06:49:02 -0600
From: "Oskar" <
swede@pclink.com>
Subject: Re: Team3S:
C's Short shifter... G-Force ECU
> > Where
can I get a C's short shifter? I can't seem
> > to find a vendor
anywhere on the web....
>
> Dave Buschur at
http://www.buschurracing.com sells his
short shifters for
$75.
> --
Just be aware that the Bushur
shifter is merely a stock shifter that has
been shortened above the pivot
point.
Oskar
'95 R/T TT
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Date:
Sat, 30 Oct 1999 14:53:57 -0600
From: "Ricardo Cousar" <
rcousar@datawest.net>
Subject:
Team3S: Tranny parts
I have some good news about bearings and seals for
our trannies. I believe I
can match up some bearings and some of the seals
from the tranny if anyone
has any extra set of bearings or if you have a bad
tranny they would like to
get fixed? Please let me know. Last year I got my
tranny rebuilt and some of
the seals were replaced, also while going through
the whole agonizing
process I found sources that might benefit us all. If you
would like any
information or any assistance please let me know.
Also, does anyone know
how man vendors sell Y-Pipes? Thanks.
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Date:
Fri, 5 Nov 1999 09:22:23 -0600
From: "Wendlandt, Mark (MN51)"
<
MWendlan@cfsmo.honeywell.com>
Subject:
Team3S: 99 3000gt VR4 parts car
FYI, found this on the web:
http://www.msrecycling.com/1960.htmlI
called about the drive train and front end components. The car has
8000mi
on her. They prices were really high. $6000 for tranny,
xfer case, drive
shaft and rear end. I've seen the package priced
around $3000 but with a
few more miles. It also sounded like they wanted to
sell complete front clip
and not split it up.
Maybe someone else will
have better luck.
Have
fun!
Mark
'91RT/TT
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Date:
Fri, 05 Nov 1999 09:04:38 -0800
From: Ken Middaugh <
Kenneth.Middaugh@gat.com>
Subject:
Re: Team3S: Tranny parts
Hi Ricardo,
>
> I have some
good news about bearings and seals for our trannies. I believe I
> can
match up some bearings and some of the seals from the tranny if anyone
>
has any extra set of bearings or if you have a bad tranny they would like
to
> get fixed? Please let me know. Last year I got my tranny rebuilt and
some of
> the seals were replaced, also while going through the whole
agonizing
> process I found sources that might benefit us all. If you
would like any
> information or any assistance please let me
know.
Certainly more sources will be a good thing for
us. Currently, MD Auto sells a
Timken bearing kit with 8 bearings for
$225, and the 6 OEM seals for tranny &
transfer for $175. I would
think you can buy the seals cheaper directly from
one of the discount Mitsu
dealers though.
> Also, does anyone know
> how many vendors sell
Y-Pipes? Thanks.
Dave Buschur at
http://www.buschurracing.com is
one.
- --
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Ken
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San Diego
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Date:
Fri, 5 Nov 1999 12:35:12 -0500
From: "Kevin Volkan" <
kevin@3si.zzn.com>
Subject: Re: Re:
Team3S: Tranny parts
Is this for the VR-4 Getrags or the SL and base
model trans?
kevin
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From:
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Sent:
Fri, 05 Nov 1999 09:04:38 -0800
To: Ricardo Cousar <
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CC: Sirius
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stealth-3000gt@list.sirius.com>
Subject:
Re: Team3S: Tranny parts
Hi Ricardo,
>
> I have some
good news about bearings and seals for our trannies. I believe I
> can
match up some bearings and some of the seals from the tranny if anyone
>
has any extra set of bearings or if you have a bad tranny they would like
to
> get fixed? Please let me know. Last year I got my tranny rebuilt and
some of
> the seals were replaced, also while going through the whole
agonizing
> process I found sources that might benefit us all. If you
would like any
> information or any assistance please let me know.
Certainly more sources will be a good thing for us. Currently, MD Auto
sells a
Timken bearing kit with 8 bearings for $225, and the 6 OEM seals for
tranny &
transfer for $175. I would think you can buy the seals cheaper
directly from
one of the discount Mitsu dealers though.
> Also,
does anyone know
> how many vendors sell Y-Pipes? Thanks.
Dave
Buschur at
http://www.buschurracing.com is
one.
- --
I'm just driving this way to piss you off!
Ken
Middaugh (858) 455-4510
General Atomics
San Diego
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Date:
Fri, 05 Nov 1999 09:44:11 -0800
From: Ken Middaugh <
Kenneth.Middaugh@gat.com>
Subject:
Re: Team3S: Tranny parts
Sorry that was left out. This is for the
Getrags. There have been ongoing
threads about the Getrag and
suppliers/rebuilders MD Auto (619) 390-0450, Kormex
(800) 429-5464, and
mailto:NYMaxxNY@aol.com.
>
>
Is this for the VR-4 Getrags or the SL and base model trans?
>
kevin
>
> ---- Begin Original Message ----
>
> From:
Ken Middaugh <
Kenneth.Middaugh@gat.com>
>
Sent: Fri, 05 Nov 1999 09:04:38 -0800
> To: Ricardo Cousar <
rcousar@datawest.net>
> CC:
Sirius 3000GT Mail List <
stealth-3000gt@list.sirius.com>
>
Subject: Re: Team3S: Tranny parts
>
> Hi Ricardo,
>
>
>
> > I have some good news about bearings and seals for our
trannies. I believe I
> > can match up some bearings and some of the
seals from the tranny if anyone
> > has any extra set of bearings or if
you have a bad tranny they would like to
> > get fixed? Please let me
know. Last year I got my tranny rebuilt and some of
> > the seals were
replaced, also while going through the whole agonizing
> > process I
found sources that might benefit us all. If you would like any
> >
information or any assistance please let me know.
>
> Certainly
more sources will be a good thing for us. Currently, MD Auto sells
a
> Timken bearing kit with 8 bearings for $225, and the 6 OEM seals for
tranny &
> transfer for $175. I would think you can buy the
seals cheaper directly from
> one of the discount Mitsu dealers
though.
>
> > Also, does anyone know
> > how many
vendors sell Y-Pipes? Thanks.
>
> Dave Buschur at
http://www.buschurracing.com is
one.
>
> --
> I'm just driving this way to piss you
off!
>
> Ken
Middaugh (858)
455-4510
> General Atomics
> San Diego
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Date:
Fri, 5 Nov 1999 10:51:44 -0600
From: "Benson \"elmagoo\"
Russell" <
benson@2015.com>
Subject: Team3S:
question on fuel
Hey all,
I'm just curious if anyone could explain
what's different about racing fuel
vs. pump fuel? Also what are the
effects of using it in our cars (as in say
you want to go to the track for a
day, and want to use racing fuel, will it
destroy our engines)? Are
there any mods you have to have on yer car in
order to use racing fuel?
If so does that mean that you couldn't ever use
pump fuel again?
Sorry
for the barrage of questions on fuel, just trying to figure out what
the
differences are :).
Latuh fuh U,
Benson
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Date:
Tue, 2 Nov 1999 09:59:48 -0800
From: "nketo" <
nketo@accglobal.net>
Subject: Re:
Team3S: Tranny parts
Ricardo,
For those Y-pipes, try
Alamomotorsports, and GT pro.
I think the Alamo runs between $195 and
$250.
Alamo sells one for his "LARGE" intercooler kit that has
2" inlets if that's
the route u wanna go later.
Good
luck!
Noble
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From: Ricardo Cousar <
rcousar@datawest.net>
To: Sirius
3000GT Mail List <
stealth-3000gt@list.sirius.com>
Date:
Friday, November 05, 1999 7:06 AM
Subject: Team3S: Tranny
parts
>I have some good news about bearings and seals for our
trannies. I believe
I
>can match up some bearings and some of the seals
from the tranny if anyone
>has any extra set of bearings or if you have a
bad tranny they would like
to
>get fixed? Please let me know. Last year
I got my tranny rebuilt and some
of
>the seals were replaced, also
while going through the whole agonizing
>process I found sources that
might benefit us all. If you would like any
>information or any assistance
please let me know. Also, does anyone know
>how man vendors
sell Y-Pipes? Thanks.
>
>For subscribe/unsubscribe info, our
web page is
http://www.bobforrest.com/Team3S.htm>
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Date:
Fri, 5 Nov 1999 14:17:45 EST
From:
Muratokcu@aol.comSubject: Re: Team3S:
Clutch failure?
regap plugs to 0.034"
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Date:
Fri, 5 Nov 1999 14:29:29 EST
From:
Muratokcu@aol.comSubject: Re: Team3S:
Rear brake change ('91 to '94+)
two opposing pistons apply exactly the
same clamping force of a single piston
w/same dia.
sounds odd, but
that is the way it is. remember, single piston calipers float
(slide) and
clamp both pads evenly (to a degree)
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Date:
Fri, 5 Nov 1999 15:05:30 -0500
From: "Kevin Schappell" <
kevin@pacarsearch.com>
Subject:
RE: Team3S: Rear brake change ('91 to '94+)
Hold on a second... something
does not sound right. You are telling me that
doubling the pistons does
nothing for the force applied to both brake pads?
You are doubling your
surface area so you should double your force. Basic
physics to
me. Maybe you mean that the pressure in the line does not
change, and I
will buy that. But you have more surface area for the same
pressure to
push against so you have more force.
Take care,
Kevin
Schappell
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mailto:owner-stealth-3000gt@list.sirius.com]On
Behalf Of
Muratokcu@aol.comSent:
Friday, November 05, 1999 2:29 PM
To:
fastmax@home.com;
stealth-3000gt@list.sirius.comSubject:
Re: Team3S: Rear brake change ('91 to '94+)
two opposing pistons
apply exactly the same clamping force of a single
piston
w/same
dia.
sounds odd, but that is the way it is. remember, single piston
calipers
float
(slide) and clamp both pads evenly (to a degree)
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Date:
Fri, 05 Nov 1999 16:16:49 EST
From: "Dg B" <
dbretton@hotmail.com>
Subject: RE:
Team3S: Rear brake change ('91 to '94+)
>
>Hold on a second...
something does not sound right. You are telling me
>that
>doubling the pistons does nothing for the force applied to
both brake pads?
>You are doubling your surface area so you should double
your force. Basic
>physics to me. Maybe you mean that the
pressure in the line does not
>change, and I will buy that. But you
have more surface area for the same
>pressure to push against so you have
more force.
>
Nope. You are cutting the force in half, and
applying one half to each
piston.
It's the same amount of force,
however, it is being better utilized. (more
evenly distributed across the
pad).
The amount of force applied on the rear pads is directly related to
the
cylinder pressure, and the ratio of the proportioning valve.
The
proportioning valve has never changed on the 3000GT, to my
knowledge.
Regards,
Dennis
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Date:
Fri, 5 Nov 1999 14:18:07 -0800
From: "Mohler, Jeff" <
jeff.mohler@netapp.com>
Subject:
RE: Team3S: Rear brake change ('91 to '94+)
How about everybody is half
right.
If the surface area of TWO calpers pistons (at the hydraulic side)
equals the
same surface area of a single piston, the force will not
change.
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From: Kevin Schappell [
mailto:kevin@pacarsearch.com]
Sent:
Friday, November 05, 1999 12:06 PM
To:
stealth-3000gt@list.sirius.comSubject:
RE: Team3S: Rear brake change ('91 to '94+)
Hold on a second...
something does not sound right. You are telling me that
doubling the
pistons does nothing for the force applied to both brake pads?
You are
doubling your surface area so you should double your force.
Basic
physics to me. Maybe you mean that the pressure in the line does
not
change, and I will buy that. But you have more surface area for the
same
pressure to push against so you have more force.
Take
care,
Kevin Schappell
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Behalf Of
Muratokcu@aol.comSent:
Friday, November 05, 1999 2:29 PM
To:
fastmax@home.com;
stealth-3000gt@list.sirius.comSubject:
Re: Team3S: Rear brake change ('91 to '94+)
two opposing pistons
apply exactly the same clamping force of a single
piston
w/same
dia.
sounds odd, but that is the way it is. remember, single piston
calipers
float
(slide) and clamp both pads evenly (to a degree)
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Date:
Fri, 5 Nov 1999 14:21:05 -0800
From: "Mohler, Jeff" <
jeff.mohler@netapp.com>
Subject:
RE: Team3S: Rear brake change ('91 to '94+)
Oops..hit send too
soon.
SO having two pisons does NOT equal twice the force, or the SAME
force. The
hydralic surface area is the qualifier here.
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From: Mohler, Jeff [
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Sent:
Friday, November 05, 1999 2:18 PM
To: 'Kevin Schappell';
stealth-3000gt@list.sirius.comSubject:
RE: Team3S: Rear brake change ('91 to '94+)
How about everybody is
half right.
If the surface area of TWO calpers pistons (at the hydraulic
side) equals the
same surface area of a single piston, the force will not
change.
- -----Original Message-----
From: Kevin Schappell [
mailto:kevin@pacarsearch.com]
Sent:
Friday, November 05, 1999 12:06 PM
To:
stealth-3000gt@list.sirius.comSubject:
RE: Team3S: Rear brake change ('91 to '94+)
Hold on a second...
something does not sound right. You are telling me that
doubling the
pistons does nothing for the force applied to both brake pads?
You are
doubling your surface area so you should double your force.
Basic
physics to me. Maybe you mean that the pressure in the line does
not
change, and I will buy that. But you have more surface area for the
same
pressure to push against so you have more force.
Take
care,
Kevin Schappell
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To:
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stealth-3000gt@list.sirius.comSubject:
Re: Team3S: Rear brake change ('91 to '94+)
two opposing pistons
apply exactly the same clamping force of a single
piston
w/same
dia.
sounds odd, but that is the way it is. remember, single piston
calipers
float
(slide) and clamp both pads evenly (to a degree)
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Date:
Fri, 05 Nov 1999 14:57:57 -0800
From: Jim Watkins <
jwatkins@terayon.com>
Subject: RE:
Team3S: Rear brake change ('91 to '94+)
Dennis brings up an important
point IMO. Do the first and second gen have
identical hydraulic
pressure feeding the rear calipers? The overall
pressure in lbs per sq
inch is determined by the master cylinder. If first
and second gen have
the same proportion then the portion that arrives at
each rear slave cylinder
in a second gen is half of that of the first gen.
The ability of the system
to transfer that force evenly to a larger surface
area of brake pad is really
the important aspect. More swept area =
greater stopping
power.
regards,
Jim
At 04:16 PM 11/05/1999 EST, Dg B
wrote:
>>
>>Hold on a second... something does not sound
right. You are telling me
>>that
>>doubling the pistons
does nothing for the force applied to both brake pads?
>>You are
doubling your surface area so you should double your force.
Basic
>>physics to me. Maybe you mean that the pressure in the
line does not
>>change, and I will buy that. But you have more
surface area for the same
>>pressure to push against so you have more
force.
>>
>Nope. You are cutting the force in half, and
applying one half to each
>piston.
>
>It's the same amount of
force, however, it is being better utilized. (more
>evenly distributed
across the pad).
>
>The amount of force applied on the rear pads is
directly related to the
>cylinder pressure, and the ratio of the
proportioning valve.
>The proportioning valve has never changed on the
3000GT, to my knowledge.
>
>
>Regards,
>
Dennis
>
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Date:
Fri, 5 Nov 1999 18:52:29 -0600
From: "Shawn and Sarah Cullen"
<
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Subject:
Team3S: Venom 400
Anyone ever heard of or used a piggyback ECU called the
Venom 400? It's
from NOPI and claims 25% increase in horsepower (1k-6k
rpm) and significant
increase in torque for our cars. The install
sounds pretty simple (30
minutes with simple hand tools) and for around $300
bucks, this could be a
good gainer, especially for us NA folks who have
rather limited mod options
compared to the turbos.
I guess it's a
fairly new product -- just wondering if anyone has any input
on the
subject.
Thanks in advance for any
input.
SC92SL
3Si#300
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Date:
Fri, 5 Nov 1999 22:50:41 EST
From:
Muratokcu@aol.comSubject: Re: Team3S:
Rear brake change ('91 to '94+)
keep in mind, the pistons are opposing.
Therefore, the clamping force is
equal between one or two piston calipers
even though the piston area is
doubled.
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