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Team3S Digest Wednesday,
October 20 1999 Volume 01 : Number
313
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Date:
Tue, 19 Oct 1999 14:50:57 -0500
From: Matt Jannusch <MAJ@BigCharts.com>
Subject: RE:
Team3S: Road America (Supra)
> Yes but the 300zx's are V6, and they
have single turbo
> upgrades... why is it different in our
case?
Okay, so you want to make a single turbo upgrade for 3/S
cars... Here's what you need:
Custom piping from the exhaust
manifolds to the single turbo
(or custom headers that collect behind
motor)
Custom turbo to cat (or rear exhaust) piping with flanges for
both
Custom air intake from turbo to MAF (or whatever else you are
using)
Custom piping from turbo to intercoolers
Big Single Turbo - T3/T4
hybrid???
Room for all this stuff under the car
Room for piping to get
from under car to intercoolers/intake
Area where turbo won't get pummeled
with water and debris
Heat shielding for area above turbo so it doesn't start
your interior carpet on fire from the heat transfer through the floor
How
do you handle the intercoolers? Run them sequential or in parallel, or do
the correct solution and do a front-mount? If you do a front-mount, don't
forget the $1800 for that.
I'm just not seeing the benefit of going
through all this work to set up a single turbo. What's the advantage in
having a single instead of twin turbos?
- -Matt
'95 3000GT Spyder
VR4
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Date:
Tue, 19 Oct 1999 22:58:54 +0200
From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Mikael_=C5kesson?=
<vr4@bahnhof.se>
Subject: Re:
Team3S: Road America (Supra)
You won't gain anything from a singleturbo
setup. The Supra people upgrades
to a Single turbo because it costs less with
one turbo than two turbos. The
twin turbo upgrades costs both an arm and a
leg (Ask Jack, he installed some
HKS twins on a friends Supra a few weeks
ago). The Supras sequential turbos
works as a single turbo anyway ,what I
mean is that only one turbo at a
time produce boost.
You won't
gain anything with a single turbo upgrade, maybe just save some
money on the
turbo, but you will end up spending more money in the end. You
will also have
to upgrade all Intercooler parts since you will get a flow
problem with our
stock piping and cores.
Mikael Akesson http://www.3000gt.nu
- ----- Original
Message -----
From: SkoobY <pir8ska@shadow.net>
To: Matt Jannusch
<MAJ@BigCharts.com>; <stealth-3000gt@list.sirius.com>
Sent:
Tuesday, October 19, 1999 9:08 PM
Subject: Re: Team3S: Road America
(Supra)
Yes but the 300zx's are V6, and they have single turbo
upgrades... why is it
different in our case?
Carlos
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Date:
Tue, 19 Oct 1999 20:12:36 -0400
From: "SkoobY" <pir8ska@shadow.net>
Subject: Re:
Team3S: Road America (Supra)
>>SNIP!
or do the correct solution
and do a front-mount? If you do a front-mount,
don't forget the $1800
for that.
>>SNIP!
By the way, i am getting a custom front mount
intercooler done very soon for
my car... i bought a rather large intercooler
from a large izuzu rig for
$200 its 12' wide and about 14' tall and 2' thick.
i am getting it cut
vertically and stacked one behind the other, so i'll have
a core ~7'tall,
12' wide and ~4' thick. the machining and making of the
endtanks will run me
about another $200. and finally (the difficult part) the
intercooler
piping... i haven't decided on the thickness yet... i'll probably
go with 2
1/2' pipng... any suggestions? i have no idea what this part
will cost me
though... i'm hoping to have it all done for under $800, but
then again,
something always goes wrong =)
anyways, i just
decided to mention it, since intercoolers were brought up...
Carlos
-
-----Original Message-----
From: Matt Jannusch <MAJ@BigCharts.com>
To: stealth-3000gt@list.sirius.com
<stealth-3000gt@list.sirius.com>
Date:
Tuesday, October 19, 1999 3:51 PM
Subject: RE: Team3S: Road America
(Supra)
>> Yes but the 300zx's are V6, and they have single
turbo
>> upgrades... why is it different in our
case?
>
>Okay, so you want to make a single turbo upgrade for 3/S
cars... Here's
what you need:
>
>Custom piping from the
exhaust manifolds to the single turbo
> (or custom headers that
collect behind motor)
>Custom turbo to cat (or rear exhaust) piping with
flanges for both
>Custom air intake from turbo to MAF (or whatever else
you are using)
>Custom piping from turbo to intercoolers
>Big Single
Turbo - T3/T4 hybrid???
>Room for all this stuff under the car
>Room
for piping to get from under car to intercoolers/intake
>Area where turbo
won't get pummeled with water and debris
>Heat shielding for area above
turbo so it doesn't start your interior
carpet on fire from the heat transfer
through the floor
>
>How do you handle the intercoolers? Run
them sequential or in parallel, or
do the correct solution and do a
front-mount? If you do a front-mount,
don't forget the $1800 for
that.
>
>I'm just not seeing the benefit of going through all this
work to set up a
single turbo. What's the advantage in having a single
instead of twin
turbos?
>
>-Matt
>'95 3000GT Spyder
VR4
>
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Date:
Tue, 19 Oct 1999 20:31:02 -0400
From: "Gil Gomes" <gil@warpedweb.com>
Subject: Team3S:
License Plates
Yeah.. yeah...
Here I am again. I bought my
3000GT base just over 5 months
ago and I'm finally getting into doing some
mods.
I bought a base GT on purpose so I wouldn't go over the
top
customizing it. (so much for that...) I also had some
turbo
problems with my '95 GSX that put me off turbos for a bit.
I live in
New England and the cold weather can be a problem
with turbos when you're
running the car year round. That car
was my third turbo in a row.
I had an '89 Dodge Dayton CS Turbo
Special Edition, a '90 Eclipse GST and a
'95 Eclipse GSX.
I wanted a gorgeous non-turbo machine that I could run
all year.
(I'm buying a Jeep Cherokee so I can garage the 3000 for
three
months.) My plans seem to be going awry, here.
I just got a $10,000 bonus for
all the incredibly hard work
I've done for my company in conquering our Y2K
issues.
I worked 42 out of 43 days at one point, and 12 hour days
weren't
really all that odd.
So.. now I have money... I have a
3000GT... I'm wicked
compulsive with new toyz. Sounds like
trouble, eh?
Thanx to the input from a lot of you guys, the car is
really
starting to come around. I'm shooting for 250HP, and I
think
I can obtain that without problem. I know I've been
a bit of a pain in
the keister for the past few months with
an overabundance of
questions... But if I have to ask
someone... I want to ask the
pros.
Thanx again to all of you guys who gave me your opinion
on which
wheels I should buy. I'm ordering them tomorrow.
I'm down to three
choices and if I have to toss a coin... so be it.
NOW.. I'm into
ordereing vanity plates. I've got 5 hours into
the Massachusetts
Registry of Motor Vehicles vanity plate
database. I couldn't order
lunch, about now.
Take a look at my site... and PLEASE let me know
which
plate you like best... thanx AGAIN for your time, input and
cameraderie...
http://www.warpedweb.com/3000GT
Select
"Which Plate Should I Grab"
from the menu...
Thanx...
-
-G
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Date:
Tue, 19 Oct 1999 20:00:55 -0700
From: "nketo" <nketo@accglobal.net>
Subject: Re:
Team3S: Possible source for synchros?
- -----Original
Message-----
From: Klusmanp@aol.com
<Klusmanp@aol.com>
To: stealth-3000gt@list.sirius.com
<stealth-3000gt@list.sirius.com>
Date:
Monday, October 18, 1999 5:29 PM
Subject: Team3S: Possible source for
synchros?
The Quaife engineering team makes excellent
components....for select cars.
I dont beleve they'll make any parts for our
cars unless there is enough
demand in the marketplace to
warrant
production.
Maybe we can bug 'em for
some?
Noble
>Saw an ad for this importer of drive train
components. Quaife engineering
>offers complete gear sets for various cars
- didn't see 3000GT/Stealth
>listed, but I did see diff. sets for
Eclipse/Talon/Laser cars.
>
>check it out:
>
>http://www.autotech.com/qpsnew.htm
>
>This
outfit might be able to supply synchros after the current supply
dries
>up? (Jack Tertadian is the only other source I know of - he uses
some
amazing
>sort of diplomacy to sneak synchros directly from Getrag
for us)
>
>Paul Klusman
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web page is
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>
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Date:
Wed, 20 Oct 1999 06:32:48 +0100
From: Matthews <matthews@wiesbaden.netsurf.de>
Subject:
ADMIN WARNING - Re: Team3S: License Plates
Gil Gomes wrote:
>
> NOW.. I'm into ordereing vanity plates.
Gil,
It looks like
you have accidentally posted to the wrong list. This is
the tecnical
list, and your topic belongs on the starnet list. Thanx.
- --
Jim Matthews - Wiesbaden, Germany
matthews@wiesbaden.netsurf.de
(64 Kbps ISDN)
http://rover.wiesbaden.netsurf.de/~matthews
***
3000GT-Stealth International (3Si) Member #0030 ***
http://rover.wiesbaden.netsurf.de/~matthews/stealth.html
Jet
Black '94 Dodge Stealth R/T Twin-Turbo AWD AWS 6-spd
Adjustable Active
Suspension, Adjustable Exhaust System
K&N FIPK, A'PEXi Super AVC-R (1.0
bar @ 72% BADC)
A'PEXi Turbo Timer (30 sec), Blitz Blow-Off
Valve
Magnecore spark plug wires, Redline ShockProof fluids
Metal Matrix
brake pads, custom braided brake lines
Michelin Pilot XGT-Z4 245/45ZR17, Top
Speed: 168mph
G-Tech Pro: 0-60 4.79 sec, 1/4 13.16 sec @ 113.9 mph
1 Feb
99 Dyno Session: 406 SAE HP, 354 lb-ft torque
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Date:
Wed, 20 Oct 1999 09:11:40 EDT
From: TurboDrvn@aol.com
Subject: Team3S: Need
RC Engineering's info
Can someone please inform me of RC Engineering's
phone #, address and email
address.
Thank
You,
Ahmed.
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Date:
Wed, 20 Oct 1999 09:28:27 EDT
From: TurboDrvn@aol.com
Subject: Re: Team3S:
Road America (Supra)
In a message dated 10/19/99 3:59:43 PM Central
Daylight Time, vr4@bahnhof.se
writes:
<< You won't gain anything with a single turbo upgrade,
maybe just save some
money on the turbo, but you will end up spending
more money in the end. You
will also have to upgrade all Intercooler
parts since you will get a flow
problem with our stock piping and
cores.
Mikael Akesson http://www.3000gt.nu
>>
Point well taken!
Ahmed "AL-Crazy"
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Date:
Wed, 20 Oct 1999 15:48:55 +0200
From: "R.G." <robby@freesurf.ch>
Subject: Re:
Team3S: Need RC Engineering's info
http://www.rceng.com/
Roger
93'3000GT
TT
- -----Original Message-----
From: TurboDrvn@aol.com <TurboDrvn@aol.com>
To: stealth-3000gt@list.sirius.com
<stealth-3000gt@list.sirius.com>
Date:
Mittwoch, 20. Oktober 1999 15:10
Subject: Team3S: Need RC Engineering's
info
>Can someone please inform me of RC Engineering's phone #,
address and email
>address.
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Date:
Wed, 20 Oct 1999 11:34:03 EDT
From: Yogourt@aol.com
Subject: Team3S: Transfer
Case
Hi all,
I need to get another transfer case and I'm trying to
determine which one I
need. I don't want to take it off until another one
arrives as I can't afford
the downtime. I have a '92 Stealth RT/TT. The
transfer case has a part number
MR165234 and a stamping number of MBG01338
with build date of 9/91. Kormex
can't determine whether this is large or
small spine. The local dealerships
didn't know there was a difference. Can
anyone tell from the above info which
I need or deirect me to someone
that would know?
TIA
Paul
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Date:
Wed, 20 Oct 1999 10:54:52 -0500
From: xwing <xwing@execpc.com>
Subject: Re: Team3S:
Road America (Supra)
Single turbo is cheaper than 2 turbos. Some
think a twin spools up
quicker than a single, if so it is minor factor.
Twin may allow more
lbs/hour of airflow total than a single that FITS.
Twin looks and
sounds cooler, bench-racing wise :)
The Supra
with 3" exhaust, EVC-EZ boost control, G-Force computer,
HKS twin turbo and
frontmount intercooler went 12.1 @ 127-129mph
on street tires (no traction,
shows the superiority of the 3000/Stealth VR4
on street tires--I went 10.8 @
128 on street tires!)
With BFGoodrich drag radials and "50hp" NOS,
went 11.43 @ 131
but was only 700psi in bottle, NOS not much gain. I
drove the car to 133.8mph
with NOS on street tires (I drive car a little
better. Not as MUCH better as I
did my buddy's 1993 3000, he was going
13.3 @ 110...he has alot of mods and
couldn't figure why was so slow. I
made ONE pass, and did 11.95@113.somthing
so he is happier with
car, less so with himself, but with experience he'll improve).
Jack
Tertadian
a hired gun, since nothing fast I own runs (well at least the ZX9R
is back ok now)
Mikael Åkesson wrote:
> Supra people
upgrades to Single turbo because costs less.
> twin turbo upgrade costs
arm and a leg (Ask Jack, he installed some
> HKS twins on Supra few weeks
ago). Supras sequential turbos
> works as single turbo
anyway
>
> You won't gain with single turbo, just save
>
money on turbo, end up spending more money in the end.
> will have to
upgrade all Intercooler parts
> Mikael Akesson http://www.3000gt.nu
>
> From:
SkoobY <pir8ska@shadow.net>
> Yes but the
300zx's are V6, and they have single turbo upgrades... why is it
>
different in our case?
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Date:
Wed, 20 Oct 1999 14:19:24 -0400
From: Rick Diogo <rick@ceo-consulting.com>
Subject:
Team3S: Parts for sale- turbos and intercoolers
Hello,
I am new to
this list and this is my first post. I have just been reading
what
others have said. There seems to be a few very knowledgeable guys on
this list. Thanks for all the great info!
I am selling a pair
of brand new turbos for a 94 R/T TT. They are brand
new in the box
from Mitsu (not remans) and have never been installed in a
vehicle. Best reasonable offer over $1,000 gets them. I am
looking to
get just enough to purchase the ARC2 from GT-Pro. So if
someone wants to
trade for that instead I would even be willing to do that
too.
Like I said, the turbos are brand new in the box. They list
for
$2,861.00 for the pair. I was told that they will fit 91-96
R/T TT's and
Vr-4's.
I also have my original stock intercoolers and
all the original piping and
hoses from my 94 TT. If anyone is
interested in these parts please let me
know ASAP. I will let the
intercoolers and all piping go for $700. I
think when I called the
dealer these parts (collectively) listed for more
than some complete used
cars cost.
Take Care,
Rick Diogo
94 Stealth TT
6 speed,
climate control A/C
Pearl Yellow w/factory Dodge Chrome wheels
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Date:
Wed, 20 Oct 1999 15:06:48 -0600
From: Dave Monarchi <monarchd@refuge.Colorado.EDU>
Subject:
Re: Team3S: Transfer Case
+> Hi all,
+> I need to get another
transfer case and I'm trying to determine which one I
+> need. I don't
want to take it off until another one arrives as I can't affor
d
+>
the downtime. I have a '92 Stealth RT/TT. The transfer case has a part
numbe
r
+> MR165234 and a stamping number of MBG01338 with build date
of 9/91. Kormex
+> can't determine whether this is large or small spine.
The local dealerships
+> didn't know there was a difference. Can anyone
tell from the above info whic
h
+> I need or deirect me to
someone that would know?
+> TIA
+> Paul
My understanding is
that the large spline shafts were installed in
cases built starting sometime
in 1993.. And of course a pre '93 case
that was rebuilt/remanufactured
in '93 or later had the possibility
of have the large spline
"upgrade". Meaning the build date on the
case wouldn't necessarily
tell you one way or the other what was
inside, unless you knew that it was a
non-rebuilt pre-93 case.
if anyone thinks this information is inaccurate,
please correct me..
On the other hand, it's very simple to take the case
out should you
want to pull it, verify the spline count, and put it back in
until
the new one arrives. I'm assuming your current case is still
functional as otherwise this wouldn't be an issue.
My mechanic
only charged me 2 hours to R&R mine a couple weeks ago.
I would
definately do it myself now that I know how easy it is.
(I originally
thought I was going to have him rebuild it before I
found out parts of the
case itself were destroyed.)
Hope this helps..
Dave
95 Black
VR4
87 Mica Red GTI G60
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