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Team3S Digest Saturday,
September 25 1999 Volume 01 : Number
291
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Date:
Thu, 23 Sep 1999 18:11:41 EDT
From: "Dg B" <dbretton@hotmail.com>
Subject: Re:
Team3S: I've got an "aircharger" filter that I need to
unload...
>
>These are interesting alternatives to the K&N
FIPK... But isn't the
>FIPK the ONLY one that is street legal and
comes with a D.O.T.
>sticker??? I think it's also the only
aftermarket airbox that
>doesn't void the warranty-- BECAUSE of the D.O.T.
sticker... True?
>Refresh my memory, guys...
>
Actually,
it's the only one with a CARB sticker, which, if I recall
correctly, stands
for California Air Resource Bureau (or something like
that).
As far as
voiding the warranty is concerned, I would think, technically, you
would
void it with any aftermarket replacement filter
unit.
Regards,
Dennis
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Date:
Thu, 23 Sep 1999 17:29:39 -0500
From: "Jeff" <spydervr4@home.com>
Subject: Re:
Team3S: I've got an "aircharger" filter that I need to unload...
The
difference is in the CARB emissions sticker (making it legal for use
on
public roads) and that it comes with the CORRECT brackets to that it
fits
perfectly. The aircharger fits "close enough" but rubs a little
bit. Not a
big deal for most people, but it can get
annoying.
jeff
'95 Mitsubishi Spyder VR-4
'90 Mitsubishi Eclipse
GSX
- ----- Original Message -----
From: Bob Forrest <bf@bobforrest.com>
To: Curt Gendron
<curt_gendron@hotmail.com>;
<stealth-3000gt@list.sirius.com>
Sent:
Thursday, September 23, 1999 5:01 PM
Subject: Re: Team3S: I've got an
"aircharger" filter that I need to
unload...
> These are
interesting alternatives to the K&N FIPK... But isn't the
> FIPK
the ONLY one that is street legal and comes with a D.O.T.
>
sticker??? I think it's also the only aftermarket airbox that
>
doesn't void the warranty-- BECAUSE of the D.O.T. sticker... True?
>
Refresh my memory, guys...
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Date:
Thu, 23 Sep 1999 17:41:31 -0500
From: Matt Jannusch <MAJ@BigCharts.com>
Subject: RE:
Team3S: I've got an "aircharger" filter that I need to unload ...
>
Actually, it's the only one with a CARB sticker, which, if I recall
>
correctly, stands for California Air Resource Bureau (or
> something like
that).
> As far as voiding the warranty is concerned, I would think,
> technically, you would void it with any aftermarket
> replacement
filter unit.
...but in accordance with the Magnusson-Moss warranty act
the manufacturer
or agent performing the service who wants to deny warranty
coverage has to
prove that your aftermarket part directly caused the problem
being repaired.
They can't just straight-out void all your warranty because
you put a K&N on
there.
http://www.sema.org/consumer/alert/warranties.html
http://www.sema.org/fedleg/warranty/warranty.html
-
-Matt
'95 3000GT Spyder VR4
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Date:
Thu, 23 Sep 1999 15:58:35 -0700
From: "Bob Forrest" <bf@bobforrest.com>
Subject: Re:
Team3S: I've got an "aircharger" filter that I need to unload...
-
-----Original Message-----From: Dg B <dbretton@hotmail.com>
>>These
are interesting alternatives to the K&N FIPK... But
isn't
the
>>FIPK the ONLY one that is street legal and comes with a
D.O.T.
>>sticker??? I think it's also the only aftermarket airbox
that
>>doesn't void the warranty-- BECAUSE of the D.O.T.
sticker...
True?
>>Refresh my memory,
guys...
>>
>Actually, it's the only one with a CARB sticker,
which, if I recall
>correctly, stands for California Air Resource Bureau
(or something
like
>that).
>As far as voiding the warranty is
concerned, I would think,
technically, you
>would void it with any
aftermarket replacement filter unit.
CARB, yeah, that's it...
Having the numbered CARB sticker proves to
guys at emissions testing stations
that the FIPK is a fully legal
replacement... If you don't buy a unit
with a sticker, they can
fail you. It was a dealer who told me that
they honor the FIPK as a
legal replacement under warranty... Thanks for
the memory jog,
Dennis! :-)
Forrest
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Date:
Thu, 23 Sep 1999 22:06:17 -0500
From: "Vineet Singh" <billi_gates@hotmail.com>
Subject:
Team3S: Walbro Fuel Pump characteristics
I have had a Walbro fuel pump
(255lph, std pressure) in my DSM for about 2
years now. It has never given me
any problems until just recently where it
has an additional harmonic in the
"whine" when cold. Not a major issue
(yet?).
I can boost all the way
to 20psi w/o knocking, and do have larger injectors
installed. Since it's an
A/T it also has a higher fuel pressure regulator
(putting more strain on the
pump than a m/t DSM would).
When I FIRST installed it, it was quite
annoying. Also, the guage of the
stock fuel pump wire in DSM's is about
18awg, which is clearly not enough
for any real modification of the car.
Everytime there was a load on the
electrical system, the pump would change
pitch. This was REALLY annoying
when you had indicators or flashers on. To
alleviate most of this, I ran a
BOSCH automotive relay, and a 12awg wire (15a
fused) straight from the
battery to the relay/pump. Does anyone know if the
same defficiency exists
on the 3/S cars?
I have since covered the pump
cover with two layers of dynamat, and an old
floormat (rubber/carpet). The
noise is now between stock and what it was
with the pump immediately after
installation. From the outside, the pump
sounds identical to a 95ish mustang
GT.
These pumps are used in the mustangs for certain years, they are also
sold
by HOLLEY for nearly twice as much as what you can find on the net.
Tom
Stangl sold me mine, and still may sell them (www.vfaq.com). I have heard
some nice
recommendations about the person selling them at the link in an
earlier post
(had the word syclone in it). Expect to pay about 120$ for
the
Walbro.
The supra pump is awesome as well, and is quiet! It is
more like $200+, and
may be close to a direct drop in. Be careful with the
fuel level senders
when installing pumps, many people have installed the pump
itself correctly,
and then run out of gas (the gauge stays at like 1/4 or
something). Also
make sure you don't drop stuff in the tank, and try to do it
with the tank
empty.
I now have a digital camera, and will take
numerous pics as my mods increase
:)
PS: Smoking can and will kill
you, either when installing a pump, or later
:). Also don't do what my friend
did, and screw one the positive spade
connector on the pump so that it is
touching the metal fuel line (ground).
He's lucky he only blew a fuse...
TWICE, instead of just the garage/himself.
Vineet Singh
Manuals On CD
- http://manualcd.dsm.org
Club DSM A/T
- http://at.dsm.org - "Never Lift To
Shift!"
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Date:
Fri, 24 Sep 1999 10:25:45 -0400 (EDT)
From: Mike Baldwin <mbaldwin@eecs.tufts.edu>
Subject:
Team3S: Aircharger questions
I'm not sure if the aircharger will void the
warranty, but wasn't one of
the list members saying how the FIPK (even though
its smaller) results in
a much more significant punch?
He compared an
FIPK and aircharger back to back.
But let me know about the warranty
thing - has anyone taken there car in
under warranty with an aircharger or
FIPK installed? Does the CARB sticker
really matter (say in like
Cali)?
Thanks
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Date:
Fri, 24 Sep 1999 10:32:42 -0400 (EDT)
From: Mike Baldwin <mbaldwin@eecs.tufts.edu>
Subject:
Team3S: Coolant Confusion
To the person who said their coolant was not 50
antifreeze/50 water -
is 100% antifreeze the real deal? I'm
confused.
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Date:
Fri, 24 Sep 1999 10:20:49 -0500
From: Matt Jannusch <MAJ@BigCharts.com>
Subject: RE:
Team3S: Coolant Confusion
> To the person who said their coolant was
not 50 antifreeze/50 water -
> is 100% antifreeze the real deal? I'm
confused.
No, don't use 100% antifreeze. Use 50/50 if you are in a
cold climate, I
think you can go 75% water, 25% antifreeze if you are in a
warm climate
where freezing isn't a danger. The antifreeze protects
against corrosion
and raises the boiling point for the warmer
climate.
- -Matt
'95 3000GT Spyder VR4
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Date:
Fri, 24 Sep 1999 10:53:13 -0500
From: "Oskar" <swede@pclink.com>
Subject: Re: Team3S:
Aircharger questions
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Mike Baldwin wrote:
> I'm not sure if the aircharger will void
the warranty, but wasn't one of
> the list members saying how the FIPK
(even though its smaller) results in
> a much more significant
punch?
>
> He compared an FIPK and aircharger back to
back.
>
Not sure about the punch. I went from a FIPK to an
aircharger. I have not
measured the performance difference.
Here's a picture of the two side by
side.
Oskar
'95 R/T TT
12.67@107.5 w. FIPK
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Date:
Fri, 24 Sep 1999 14:12:25 -0400
From: "Carlos Q" <pir8ska@shadow.net>
Subject: Team3S:
electronics quesion about active aero (again)
I will try this once
more... I have removed the front air dam and motor from
my active aero system
(its all for sale if anyone's interested) and the
system will stop working as
soon as it disengages the first time... I am
not VERY savvy in the
electronics area (I can install things and solder, but
not troubleshoot
circuits...), so I do not know what I shoud do to remedy
this problem (I
suppose something must be done to the front wire harness
that was attached to
the motor). Could anyone help me fix my situation?
(roger suggested I use
some sort of "power resistor"... I know what a
resistor is, but wht is a
power resistor?)
Thanks so much,
Carlos
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Date:
Fri, 24 Sep 1999 11:01:16 -0700
From: "Bob Forrest" <bf@bobforrest.com>
Subject: Re:
Team3S: Aircharger questions
- -----Original Message-----From: Mike
Baldwin
<mbaldwin@eecs.tufts.edu>
-
----snip-------
>But let me know about the warranty thing - has anyone
taken their
car in
>under warranty with an aircharger or FIPK
installed? Does the CARB
sticker
>really matter (say in like
Cali)?
It does matter here in the Bay Area... The guy at the
inspection
station year before last looked up the CARB number, and said that
if
it weren't listed, it would be a valid reason for him to fail a car.
He
also mentioned that if the inspector didn't notice the mod (most
wouldn't)
and emissions checked out, you could just as easily pass.
He just 'knew' the
car because the Stealth was always his 'dream
car', (like so many other folks
I've run into)! :-) The guy last
year didn't notice, or didn't
mention it...
I called my dealer this morning, and he said "it depends on
the
dealer", whether or not they try to stiff you because of
aftermarket
items... "With an FIPK, because of the CARB sticker, most
dealers
won't hassle you". I'd take his comments with a grain of
salt,
however, since these guys are so honorable it's almost scary--
not
the typical dealer, from my experience. They don't even hassle
me
with my RPS clutch and Eibach springs, because they installed
them,
they know I don't race, and I have a low mileage car... Even
though
I'm 6 months out of warranty, they honor small problems
without
charging me for labor (I only pay for parts), and they have
Team3S
'listed', giving any of us a 10% discount. I'm sure they can
spare
it, too-- they charge $87.50/hr!
The 'special treatment' I get
is attributable to the clout of
Team3S; I gave them a letter a year ago
(on our letterhead),
telling them that I would be listing them on our
upcoming "Good
Guys" Vendors Page for all the world to see. Maybe a
good idea for
all of you... I'll provide a sample letter in Word97
format for
anyone who wants it- email me privately. And eventually,
we
actually WILL have a "Good Guys" page...
Forrest
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Date:
Fri, 24 Sep 1999 11:15:46 -0700
From: Ken Middaugh <Kenneth.Middaugh@gat.com>
Subject:
Re: Team3S: electronics quesion about active aero (again)
> I will try
this once more... I have removed the front air dam and motor from
> my
active aero system (its all for sale if anyone's interested) and the
>
system will stop working as soon as it disengages the first time... I
am
> not VERY savvy in the electronics area (I can install things and
solder, but
> not troubleshoot circuits...), so I do not know what I shoud
do to remedy
> this problem (I suppose something must be done to the front
wire harness
> that was attached to the motor). Could anyone help me fix
my situation?
Perhaps the rear wing is just 'sticky' and sluggish enough
to disable the AERO
occasionally. Try disassembling, cleaning, and
greasing the rear wing to see if
that fixes the problem.
- --
Drive faster, it is later than you think!
Ken Middaugh (858)
455-4510
General Atomics
San Diego
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Date:
Fri, 24 Sep 1999 11:20:15 -0700
From: Errin Humphrey <errin@u.washington.edu>
Subject:
Re: Team3S: Aircharger questions
> Oskar sent some picture file to the
list
Aren't attached files prohibited on this mailing list?
If so,
PLEASE don't send them. They tend to crash my browser.
Since I use
Netscape, I think Microsoft has something to do with it.
Thanks,
-
--Errin Humphrey
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Date:
Fri, 24 Sep 1999 14:37:04 -0400
From: "Carlos Q" <pir8ska@shadow.net>
Subject: Re:
Team3S: electronics quesion about active aero (again)
no, i thought of
that already, but my rear spoiler is working perfect...
when i had the front
air dam installed it usually worked, except when the
FRONT got stuck (you
could tell because the light would come on, and the dam
would stay halfway-up
or down). Now that there is no front, it thinks there
is a problem with it
and the light comes on religiously...
- ----Original
Message-----
From: Ken Middaugh <Kenneth.Middaugh@gat.com>
To:
Carlos Q <pir8ska@shadow.net>;
Team3S <stealth-3000gt@list.sirius.com>
Date:
Friday, September 24, 1999 2:18 PM
Subject: Re: Team3S: electronics quesion
about active aero (again)
>
>> I will try this once
more... I have removed the front air dam and motor
from
>> my active
aero system (its all for sale if anyone's interested) and the
>> system
will stop working as soon as it disengages the first time... I
am
>> not VERY savvy in the electronics area (I can install things and
solder,
but
>> not troubleshoot circuits...), so I do not know what
I shoud do to remedy
>> this problem (I suppose something must be done
to the front wire harness
>> that was attached to the motor). Could
anyone help me fix my situation?
>
>Perhaps the rear wing is just
'sticky' and sluggish enough to disable the
AERO
>occasionally.
Try disassembling, cleaning, and greasing the rear wing to
see if
>that
fixes the problem.
>
>--
>Drive faster, it is later than you
think!
>
>Ken Middaugh (858) 455-4510
>General
Atomics
>San Diego
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Date:
Fri, 24 Sep 1999 15:07:39 EDT
From: TrboDrvr@aol.com
Subject: Re: Team3S: I've
got an "aircharger" filter that I need to unload...
Matt, you are
absolutely correct. I am a lawyer and have litigated that
issue
numerous times.
Joe 91TT
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Date:
Fri, 24 Sep 1999 21:23:11 +0200
From: "R.G." <robby@freesurf.ch>
Subject: Re:
Team3S: electronics quesion about active aero (again)
I was wrong with
the power transistor as simulating the motor wouldn't help
at all.
The
AA circuit consists of two switches in the front (one rotating contacts,
two
position contacts). The motor rotates 180° from one switch to the
other
switch position each time it is activated. If the switches are not
activated
correctly in the front and the rear simultaneously, the system
indicates a
failure.
In your case, you probably have removed a lot of
this stuff or either the
motor doesn't rotate correctly or the switches are
not ok.
There are several solutions to this but the easist one is just to
kepp the
motor and switch running but removing the linkage to the air dam. If
this
isn't possible and everythign has to be removed, the switch positions
have
to be simulated. You can do this with a relay that is actiovated by the
rear
up/down switches. If the rear sees low than also the front must see low
and
vice versa.
The limit switch in the rear contacts the check wire
"slant" to GROUND.
Therefore, you may be able to connect the ground
connection of a relay to
this line (use a diode to prevent power going into
the AA ECU from the coil
of the relay). Use a a/b contact relay that connects
the front sensing line
with the up-wire when the relay is activated and with
the down-wire when
deactivated. This should work ....
theoretically.
It may become a problem if the AA ECU uses some timing
internally to sense
the stuff as well when it checks the current drawn by the
front motor. This
I don't know but as the simulation seems easy I'd give it a
try.
Hope this helps,
Roger
93'3000GT TT (AA working
:))
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Date:
Fri, 24 Sep 1999 12:29:07 -0700
From: "Darcy Gunnlaugson" <wce@bc.sympatico.ca>
Subject: Re:
Warning was Team3S: Aircharger questions
Errin et al;
Roger is
marginally off base here, albeit in character with our
gentleman's
conduct. We do discourage attached picture files on this
list. As this was
small pic, it was not the subject of a warning,
however, small infractions
lead to larger ones when the smaller ones are
overlooked. So, for future
reference, please do not send attached files to
the list. Rules are rules
and we aim to enforce them. If in doubt, ask, or go
to the rules page.
Darcy
Admin Team3S
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Date:
Fri, 24 Sep 1999 12:49:09 -0700
From: "Darcy Gunnlaugson" <wce@bc.sympatico.ca>
Subject:
Team3S: Picture Files
I must correct an error I just made. We DO allow
small picture files. Roger
is right, I am wrong. It just goes to show how one
"thinks" as to opposed
how things really are (see
rules).
Darc
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Date:
Fri, 24 Sep 1999 15:02:40 -0500
From: "Oskar" <swede@pclink.com>
Subject: Re: Warning
was Team3S: Aircharger questions
Ladies and Gentlemen,
The following
is quoted from house rule number 2: (as seen on
http://www.3si.org/techlist.html
)
"When posting photo attachments, please keep the size down to around
30K and
limit yourself to two (2) pictures. If you have several images of
interest
to the entire list, either put them on a web page or ask if anyone
on the
list has web space where you may put them up."
With this in
mind I do not see wherein the "small infraction" lies. Darcy
could you
please elaborate. I was under the impression that I was
actually
performing a valuable service to the list members when posting this
picture.
It was noted by Darcy, and you shall all know that I took care to
ensure
that the picture was not of offending size before sending
it.
Haven't we already covered this subject at least once before??
Maybe this
is one of those topics that have to be rehashed on a regular
basis. I think
that the rules were created to avoid having these
discussions.
Oskar
Paperport OneTouch/Paint Shop Pro v.5
Hmmm,
maybe warnings should be issued to people who ignore reading
the
rules...
- ----- Original Message not
snipped-----
From: Darcy Gunnlaugson <wce@bc.sympatico.ca>
>
Errin et al;
>
> Roger is marginally off base here, albeit in
character with our
gentleman's
> conduct. We do discourage
attached picture files on this list. As this
was
> small pic, it was
not the subject of a warning, however, small
infractions
> lead
to larger ones when the smaller ones are overlooked. So, for future
>
reference, please do not send attached files to the list. Rules are
rules
> and we aim to enforce them. If in doubt, ask, or go to the rules
page.
>
> Darcy
>
> Admin Team3S
>
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Date:
Fri, 24 Sep 1999 15:08:10 -0500
From: "Oskar" <swede@pclink.com>
Subject: Re: Team3S:
Picture Files
> I must correct an error I just made. We DO allow small
picture files.
Roger
> is right, I am wrong. It just goes to show how
one "thinks" as to opposed
> how things really are (see
rules).
Well, I guess that's allowed on a Friday afternoon. Maybe
Happy Hour has
already started up there in Canada...
:)
Oskar
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Date:
Fri, 24 Sep 1999 13:20:56 -0700
From: "Darcy Gunnlaugson" <wce@bc.sympatico.ca>
Subject: Re:
Warning was Team3S: Aircharger questions
Hey Oskar;
A thousand
appologies. I believe my last post covers this, but let me humble
myself some
more. What can I say...I was walking in dense fog. I'll
flagilate
myself before I retire. :-)
Darc
- -----Original
Message-----
From: Oskar <swede@pclink.com>
To: Darcy Gunnlaugson
<wce@bc.sympatico.ca>; 3/S Sirius
Mailing List
<stealth-3000gt@list.sirius.com>
Date:
Friday, September 24, 1999 1:08 PM
Subject: Re: Warning was Team3S:
Aircharger questions
>Ladies and Gentlemen,
>The following
is quoted from house rule number 2: (as seen on
>http://www.3si.org/techlist.html
)
>
>"When posting photo attachments, please keep the size down to
around 30K
and
>limit yourself to two (2) pictures. If you have several
images of interest
>to the entire list, either put them on a web page or
ask if anyone on the
>list has web space where you may put them
up."
>
>With this in mind I do not see wherein the "small
infraction" lies. Darcy
>could you please elaborate. I was
under the impression that I was actually
>performing a valuable service to
the list members when posting this
picture.
>It was noted by Darcy, and
you shall all know that I took care to ensure
>that the picture was not of
offending size before sending it.
>
>Haven't we already covered this
subject at least once before?? Maybe this
>is one of those topics
that have to be rehashed on a regular basis. I
think
>that the
rules were created to avoid having these
discussions.
>
>Oskar
>Paperport OneTouch/Paint Shop Pro
v.5
>
>Hmmm, maybe warnings should be issued to people who ignore
reading the
>rules...
>
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Date:
Fri, 24 Sep 1999 13:29:12 -0700
From: "Bob Forrest" <bf@bobforrest.com>
Subject: Re:
Team3S: Picture Files
- -----Original Message-----From: Oskar <swede@pclink.com>
>> I must
correct an error I just made. We DO allow small
picture
files.
>Roger
>> is right, I am wrong. It just goes to
show how one "thinks" as to
opposed
>> how things really are (see
rules).
>
>Well, I guess that's allowed on a Friday afternoon.
Maybe Happy
Hour has
>already started up there in Canada...
:)
We admins make mistakes too... We're just doin' the best we
can!
And BTW, that's what "Canada" means in French..., "Happy Hour!"
:-)
It's almost beer-thirty here in SF, too!
See, now I commited a
violation too! (No chat allowed!)
I'll make it a legal
post... Last call for Bay Area folks to join
the West Coast Gathering
in Monterey this weekend. Email me
privately... I'm leaving SF at
8AM...
I'll go to my room now... :-( Enjoy the weekend,
all! Where's my
Martini...
Oh, one more thing... (a
picture insert!)
Forrest
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Date:
Fri, 24 Sep 1999 15:49:43 -0500 (EST)
From: Dennis Moore <stealth@kiva.net>
Subject: Team3S:
Posting Pix
Hi All,
If you have need of a place for *short term*
posting of pix, please let me
know. I have space on a couple different
servers which is
"underutilized". Then, instead of mailing the pix out
as an attachment to
this group, you can forward a URL for interested parties
to check out.
Hope this helps. Email me privately if you want to
take me up on my
offer.
Dennis Moore
stealth@kiva.net
93 Stealth ES
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Date:
Fri, 24 Sep 1999 23:13:25 +0200
From: Mike Chapleski <mike.chapleski@ibm.net>
Subject:
Re: Team3S: Aircharger questions
I am not sure where
this warrantee thing started, but I have taken both of my
Stealths into
different dealers for warrantee work and no one has ever said anything
about
it. It is my understanding that neither a modification to the intake
before the
MAS and the exhaust after the pre-cats has an effect on the
warrantee. Also, I had a
dealer install a Centerforce DF clutch
as part of a warrantee Getrag swap. Magnecor
wires will also have not
effect on a warrantee.
Things that the dealer should
not care about:
properly installed
aftermarket boost gauge
Magnecor
Wires
Upgrades
wheels/tires
Upgrades brake
rotors
Turbo
Timer
Big Ass wing (unless it
makes the back of the car sag too
much)
Too many stickers ( although
if I was a service manager...)
properly sized tires
Commonly installed things that
could cause a dealer to question warrantee
work:
Definitely a boost
controller
VPC, AFC, ITC, TreMASC,
etc.
Possibly upgraded
intercoolers (if they notice)
13/15G turbos (although it is kinda hard to tell if you are not looking
closely)
Underdrive
pulley (extra load it puts on the
accessories)
Upgraded
injectors (not sure how noticeable this
is)
Missing Catalytic
converter
Gutted
pre-cats
improperly sized
tires
Things I am not sure about since the only reason
you really need them is if you have
the
above:
Upgraded fuel
pump
Upgraded fuel
lines
Any
type of lowering
kit.
EGT
gauge installed in the exhaust manifold
Later,
Mike
C.
0018
'95 Stealth RT TT
P.S. As an aside, while we were at
the Frankfurt auto show, Jim and I bitched at the
Getrag rep about our
transmission. As usual nothing came of it, except he gave us some
gummi
bears and a Getrag pin. Now, somehow or another last night that pin made
its way
from my computer desk into the carpet of the next room where it was
able to position
itself in the path of my wife's foot. While no
permanent damage was done, it just goes
to show you that Getrag evil is
everywhere.
Mike Baldwin wrote:
> I'm not sure if the
aircharger will void the warranty, but wasn't one of
> the list members
saying how the FIPK (even though its smaller) results in
> a much more
significant punch?
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Date:
Sat, 25 Sep 1999 00:39:16 -0700
From: Errin Humphrey <errin@u.washington.edu>
Subject:
Re: Team3S: Picture Files
Darcy Gunnlaugson wrote:
> I must
correct an error I just made. We DO allow small picture files. Roger
> is
right, I am wrong. It just goes to show how one "thinks" as to opposed
>
how things really are (see rules).
It was I who should have
double-checked the rules before I
responded to Oskar's post. Sorry
about that. I had just assumed
that such a rule would go hand in hand
with the "no-html" rule.
My bad,
- --Errin
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