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September 11 1999 Volume 01 : Number
281
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Date:
Fri, 10 Sep 1999 10:21:24 +0200
From: "R.G." <robby@swissonline.ch>
Subject: Re:
Team3S: B&M "New Volt" ignition amplifier
> Roger, a 2 step is a
second rev limiter.
Ok, got it :)
> Where you might set your
primary rev limiter at 7000 or 7500, you would set
> your secondary one at
4500 or 5000. The secondary limiter is activated when
> you press
the clutch pedal in and is used for WOT shifting and consistent
>
launching.
Makes a lot sense to me !
> Attached is an e-mail I
received from an MSD representative.
I also attached the response from
the development manager at B&M (not a sales
guy) I spoke with.
I
directly forwared your questions as well as mine
> I replyed to the
MSD representative and asked for some hard numbers that
> would show me
their product is better and I am now waiting on a reply. I
> tried
calling B&M on two separate occasions and on both I talked to
idiots.
> No one up there, when I called anyway, knows anything about the
product.
> They just "know that their product is
better."
Unfortunately you got the sales dept on the phone. We were lucky
and have been
able to speak with the development manager and the guy who lead
the project.
> Both MSD and B&M claim their products will not work
together but no one can
> supply a REASON and the only one I can come up
with is all the power would
> toast the stock ignition coils.
To be
honest, I think the information I got from B&M is more professional
then
the stuff MSD sent you. Maybe this was really only a salesmen and it
would be a
good thing to get hold of a tech there.
I will forward the
question about the two-stage rev-limiter and maybe Ken has a
solution for
this :)
Regards,
Roger
93'3000GT TT
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Roger,
As to wiring the unit, there are three wires
- 1) power in, 2) power out, 3)
ground. The unit's footprint is 2.25" x 5.2"
and is about 1.5" tall. There are
no special mounting requirements because it
was originally designed for a
marine environment. On your attached drawing,
you will want cut the main power
feed to the three coils. You will then
attach the red wire from the New Volt
to the "power feed" wire (12 volts in)
and attach the orange wire from the
New Volt to the wire feeding the coils.
Last you will ground the black wire
from the New Volt.
In regards to
your questions, first let's talk about the DIS-4. This unit has
been the
cause of problems on several local 3000GT VR4s. In fact, I do not
know of
anyone currently running these units. Based on this statement, I do
not
recommend trying to use the New Volt with the DIS-4.
The question about
millijoules is only relevant on a CD type ignition (and
even that is more of
a "marketing" term). The bottom line is how much heat
(current) is being
exposed at the plug. This number is also very dependent
on the coil being
tested. Example: Typical stock HEI (High Energy Ignition)
will produce about
40-60 milliamps at the plug, MSD with blaster coil: 350-400
milliamps at
plug, Crane HI-8 with PS-93 coil: 1600 milliamps at plug, New Volt
with stock
coil: 1500-2000 milliamps at plug.
An interesting point is with a new
coil I'm testing that was matched to the New
Volt characteristics and a coil
driver (igniter) capable of handling high
current, I recently measured 22000
milliamps (22 amps!) at the plug.
As far as using aftermarket coils, I'm
working on a "twin tower" coil right now
that will be designed specifically
for use with the New Volt - probably six
months or so.
Hope this
helps,
Ken
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Date:
Fri, 10 Sep 1999 10:54:04 -0400
From: "Wallis, Gavin" <WallisG@MWAA.com>
Subject: Team3S: FAQ
update
I figure I'll throw you guys an update each Friday just to let you
know
where things are. Additionally a commitment to update makes sure I
don't
abandon the project ;). (coughcoughprobablycoughcough)
I've
gotten a ton of e-mails I haven't responded to this week, (my
fiancé's,
mother's wedding on Sun), but the info I've been receiving *has*
been going
into the FAQ. Thanks to everyone who has contributed thus far.
Keep it
coming.
A decision I'm bouncing around in my head right now is
how to best take care
of "product comparison" questions in the FAQ. Problems:
1) new technology is
always coming out 2) lots of opinion(s) involved. If
anyone has a bright
idea on how to best handle this, lemme know. It has to be
tackled because I
think this is a source of some of our most repetitive
questions.
Finally, I'll have a page or two that I will pass around soon.
Basically it
is to see if you guys like the way I've organized things right
now. It'll be
in Word 97. If you don't have Word, I'll e-mail you a copy.
<g>
Regards and have a good weekend,
Gavin
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Date:
Thu, 18 Feb 1999 00:41:06 -0800
From: "nketo" <nketo@accglobal.net>
Subject:
Team3S: transmissions for our cars...
Hello everyone.
I'm writing
this letter for a major concern that plagues us all; tranny
problems.
I'm
wondering if anyone can get parts or kits for the 3000
"Getrag"
transmission.
Chrysler is now offering rebuild transmissions from
the factory for half the
cost
up here in Canada.
If it's possible, then
there must be some parts available for it.
Also, if there is any upgrades
that can be done (regardless of cost), what
can be
ordered/made as an
upgrade to our ultra powerful cars?
Any help would be greatly
appreciated.
Sincerely,
Noble
(nketo@accglobal.net)
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Date:
Fri, 10 Sep 1999 09:31:44 -0700
From: "Darcy Gunnlaugson" <wce@bc.sympatico.ca>
Subject: Re:
Team3S: transmissions for our cars...
Hey Noble;
Try phoning MD
Auto in San Diego. They are likely the source you are looking
for. Phone # is
619-390-0450. There are also hardened output shafts availed
through Komex
Transmission Parts (ask for Frank) at 1-800-429-5464.
As far as upgrading
goes (improved/redesigned parts) I have heard of
nothing. BUT, the
hardened output shaft noted, is reputed to be far better
than the original
Getrash part. Rumor (only rumor) is that Getrash is now
making replacement
components of a uniform quality which maybe means a
better quality
steel than previously used...or at least quality control.
These better
components are now finding their way into the marketplace via
means that are
anyone's guess.
Darc
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Date:
Fri, 10 Sep 1999 17:33:24 -0500
From: "Shawn and Sarah Cullen" <spcullen@prodigy.net>
Subject:
Team3S: Question -- noise when turning off engine
Question -- for the
past couple hundred miles, whenever I turn my engine off
I hear a funny kind
of a squeak/grind coming from under the hood.
Occasionally, I'll hear it when
I hit 2-3k rpm when accelerating very
slowly, but this is hard to
replicate. Under normal or hard accleration, I
don't hear it, though
this is likely because I'm ramping through the
sensitive speed more
quickly.
I thought it was a belt going bad. I had the timing belt,
tensioner, water
pump, drive belts, replaced today (60k anyway) and still
makes the noise
when I turn off the engine.
I don't really notice any
performance deficiencies, leaking fluids, etc. I
just want my car to
stop making this noise -- it worries me a bit.
btw, my car is a 92 SL
auto tranny (forgive me). It makes the noise when
the engine is turned
off whether the car is in park or neutral, in case that
makes any difference
(thought perhaps the shifter linkage was vibrating
against the K&N
mounting brace -- it's pretty close in proximity but this
test discounts that
theory).
Any help would be appreciated. Thanks in
advance.
SC92SL
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Date:
Fri, 10 Sep 1999 16:59:56 -0700
From: "Bob Forrest" <bf@bobforrest.com>
Subject: Re:
Team3S: transmissions for our cars...
Hey, Noble,
Here's a partial
reply, below, posted to the list about 2 weeks ago
by Darcy. I'll email
you privately later with more details.
Good
luck,
Forrest
from Darcy, wce@bc.sympatico.ca:
"Getrag does not
make parts available for replacement/repair of
their units. All faulty
trannies are either sent back to them or
junked. However, Getrag
replacement parts have found their way
to a few stateside outlets by
clandestine means, and whole/part
rebuilds are now being performed. There are
also a couple of
places here which make after market output shafts, transfer
case
sleeves. etc. As you are interested in essentially rebuilding
your
tranny, you might contact MD Auto at 6460 S. Convoy Court,
in San Diego
ph. 619-390-0450. They do rebuilds and take your
old one as trade They
may also be able to supply you with
whatever you need if anticipating doing
it yourself."
- -----Original Message-----
From: nketo <nketo@accglobal.net>
To: stealth-3000gt@list.sirius.com
<stealth-3000gt@list.sirius.com>
Date:
Friday, September 10, 1999 9:10 AM
Subject: Team3S: transmissions for our
cars...
>Hello everyone.
>
>I'm writing this letter
for a major concern that plagues us all;
tranny
>problems.
>I'm
wondering if anyone can get parts or kits for the 3000
"Getrag"
>transmission.
>Chrysler is now offering rebuild
transmissions from the factory for
half the
>cost
>up here in
Canada.
>If it's possible, then there must be some parts available for
it.
>
>Also, if there is any upgrades that can be done (regardless
of
cost), what
>can be
>ordered/made as an upgrade to our ultra
powerful cars?
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Date:
Fri, 10 Sep 1999 21:42:34 -0400
From: Al <abrett@bit-net.com>
Subject: Team3S:
95 3000SL Parts for Sale
Have practically brand new set of Konig Villian
wheels with new
BFGoodrich Comp TA's, I also Have a Borla exhaust system
thats 3 months
old and a K&N FIPK Air Cleaner setup thats four months
old. I'm Selling
the car want to try and get some of my money back if I can,
I am located
just outside of Concord, NH, email me at abrett@bit-net.com for more
info....also
car is for sale too...
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Date:
Fri, 10 Sep 1999 22:58:13 -0400
From: "Kevin" <Kevin@pacarsearch.com>
Subject:
Re: Team3S: Question -- noise when turning off engine
The noise you
describe sounds like the honking goose Roger is researching.
I think someone
else with a NT noticed this sound after installing the
K&N
filter.
Kevin
- ----- Original Message -----
From: Shawn
and Sarah Cullen <spcullen@prodigy.net>
To: <stealth-3000gt@list.sirius.com>
Sent:
Friday, September 10, 1999 6:33 PM
Subject: Team3S: Question -- noise when
turning off engine
> Question -- for the past couple hundred
miles, whenever I turn my engine
off
> I hear a funny kind of a
squeak/grind coming from under the hood.
> Occasionally, I'll hear it when
I hit 2-3k rpm when accelerating very
> slowly, but this is hard to
replicate. Under normal or hard accleration,
I
> don't hear it,
though this is likely because I'm ramping through the
> sensitive speed
more quickly.
>
> I thought it was a belt going bad. I had the
timing belt, tensioner,
water
> pump, drive belts, replaced today (60k
anyway) and still makes the noise
> when I turn off the
engine.
>
> I don't really notice any performance deficiencies,
leaking fluids, etc.
I
> just want my car to stop making this noise --
it worries me a bit.
>
> btw, my car is a 92 SL auto tranny (forgive
me). It makes the noise when
> the engine is turned off whether the
car is in park or neutral, in case
that
> makes any difference (thought
perhaps the shifter linkage was vibrating
> against the K&N mounting
brace -- it's pretty close in proximity but this
> test discounts that
theory).
>
> Any help would be appreciated. Thanks in
advance.
>
> SC92SL
>
> For subscribe/unsubscribe info,
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http://www.bobforrest.com/Team3S.htm
>
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Date:
Fri, 10 Sep 1999 21:04:40 -0700
From: "Jim Berry" <fastmax@home.com>
Subject: Team3S: Fw:
Adventures in braking
>
> From: Merritt <merritt@cedar-rapids.net>
>
> > I am still trying to find a source of cold air for my brake
cooling system.
> >
> > I had big scoops under the front
valence, but some agricultural driving
> > through the grass at
Blackhawk Farms ripped those suckers plumb off. I
> > could put 'em
back on, but the way I drive I'll probably get off in the
> > grass
again at 95 mph, and there they'll go again. Besides, my next project
>
> involves putting on the Ground Control springs, so I'll lose an inch
of
> > ground clearance -- I don't think scoops will fit under there
any
more.
===============================================
I'd
still like someone with an unlimited racing budget to try one of
those
turbo fans. Hell you could even take air from the A/C condenser
and
duct it onto the brakes. It would be fairly easy to set up a ten
second
timer to blow air when the brakes are touched and even injecting
water
would be fairly easy. The price as I recall was about $300 for
the inline
blower which is about the price of a set of cryo treated
rotors. It has the
added advantage of being speed independent, you need
the cooling the
most in the twisty bits where the speed is slowest. It
can be disabled for
everyday use and has no scoops hanging down that
get scraped off.
Jim Berry
>>> 93 stealth TT
---- "arrest me
red"
K&N FIPK -- Magnicore/.034" --- Blitz
SSBC
--- GAB struts --- Stillen SS
lines
GC/Eibach 600# F/350# R --- GC caster/camber
plate
Yokohama AVS sport
255x40x17
Gtech --- 0-60 = 4.75 -- 1/4 = 13.3 @ 110 mph
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Date:
Sat, 11 Sep 1999 08:20:09 -0400
From: dgkessler@netexp.com (Kessler,
D.)
Subject: Re: Team3S: 95 3000SL Parts for Sale
How much are
you asking for the items?
Don Kessler
1993 R/T TT
3si #152
Al wrote:
>
> Have practically brand new set of Konig
Villian wheels with new
> BFGoodrich Comp TA's, I also Have a Borla
exhaust system thats 3 months
> old and a K&N FIPK Air Cleaner setup
thats four months old. I'm Selling
> the car want to try and get some of
my money back if I can, I am located
> just outside of Concord,
NH, email me at abrett@bit-net.com for more
>
info....also car is for sale too...
>
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info, our web page is http://www.bobforrest.com/Team3S.htm
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