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Team3S Digest       Thursday, September 9 1999       Volume 01 : Number 280




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Date: Wed, 08 Sep 1999 22:15:51 +0200
From: "R.G." <robby@swissonline.ch>
Subject: Team3S: VR4 Tranny for sale (forwarded info)

I got this message today :

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Hi Roger
I see you on the TMO list talking about 3000s. We have a fairly new
3000GT 5 speed transmission for sale. One of our customers is selling it. It is
the Getrag, does not have the transfer case. He wants $1500 for it.
Numbers on it are W5MG1-0-FNBR

Mike Welch
Road Race Engineering
mike@roadraceengineering.com

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Get in contact with them directly if interested.

Roger
93'3000GT TT
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Date: Wed, 8 Sep 1999 16:40:52 EDT
From: TrboDrvr@aol.com
Subject: Re: Team3S: VR4 Tranny for sale (forwarded info)

I don't know if anyone is interested in this tranny, but if anyone is, be
sure to count the splines on your transfer case beforehand.  There are a
variety of transfer case/tranny assemblies that Mitsu and Dodge used on our
AWD cars.  Some have 18 splines, others have 21 and 23 splines.  Just a word
of caution.

Joe.
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Date: Wed, 8 Sep 1999 18:59:14 -0500
From: "Paul T. Golley" <ptgolley@ro.com>
Subject: Re: Team3S: Re: OBD II year; Atomic Motorsports

>As far as I know, your car is OBDI.  My car has o2 sensors before and after
>the precats.  It also has an OBDII style diagnnostic connector.  However, I
>hooked up an OBDII datalogger and it didn't work on any of the OBDII
>protocols.  I checked under the hood and on one of the stickers, it read in
>small text "OBDI Certified."

>> Jack T. told me that if I didn't have Ox sensors both before and after
>> my precats, I didn't have OBD-2.  This agrees with my Factory Shop
>> Manuals.  I have a 1995 VR-4, and I have not been able to find any
>> Ox sensors after my precats.  Am I correct or wrong on this?  I've
>> been convinced for quite a while that I have OBD-1.  Am I wrong?
>> Regards,
>> ptg
Also, there is no mention of OBD anything on any of the 6 or 7 labels
stuck on the underside of my hood.  I checked them closely.  So far
I assume I have OBD 1 until I am proven wrong, which might be easy
for someone really "in the know."
I'm still in a quandry as to what the pin functions for my ECU really
are, since I've been told that my '95 VR-4  probably has a hybrid ECU,
perhaps not conforming to the pin-functions of either an OBD1 or
OBD2.  Hell, I found a diagram in the APEXi book that exatly replicates
the Mitsubishi diagram in my OEM shop manual, so I'm gonna assume
they're compatible, and go ahead and wire it this way.
My last problem regarding hooking up the hardware is where to
penetrate the firewall with the wiring.  Any Ideas?
Regards, ptg

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Date: Wed, 8 Sep 1999 18:22:11 -0700
From: "Darcy Gunnlaugson" <wce@bc.sympatico.ca>
Subject: Re: Team3S: VR4 Tranny for sale (forwarded info)

Joe;

Thanks for the heads up. It can become a real bumber for the unware buyer in
such a circumstance, and people like you are what make this group famous.

Thanks for those who didn't know.

Darc
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From: TrboDrvr@aol.com <TrboDrvr@aol.com>
To: robby@swissonline.ch <robby@swissonline.ch>;
stealth-3000gt@list.sirius.com <stealth-3000gt@list.sirius.com>
Date: Wednesday, September 08, 1999 1:43 PM
Subject: Re: Team3S: VR4 Tranny for sale (forwarded info)


>I don't know if anyone is interested in this tranny, but if anyone is, be
>sure to count the splines on your transfer case beforehand.  There are a
>variety of transfer case/tranny assemblies that Mitsu and Dodge used on our
>AWD cars.  Some have 18 splines, others have 21 and 23 splines.  Just a
word
>of caution.
>
>Joe.
>For subscribe/unsubscribe info, our web page is
http://www.bobforrest.com/Team3S.htm
>

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Date: Thu, 9 Sep 1999 12:16:00 +0200
From: "R.G." <robby@freesurf.ch>
Subject: Re: Team3S: Re: OBD II year;

>Also, there is no mention of OBD anything on any of the 6 or 7 labels
>stuck on the underside of my hood.  I checked them closely.  So far
>I assume I have OBD 1 until I am proven wrong, which might be easy
>for someone really "in the know."

You have a "quasi ODB-II". Strange, but it uses the same protocol as the
ODBII cars but needs a special scanner hardware to read the codes from the
ECU.

>I'm still in a quandry as to what the pin functions for my ECU really
>are, since I've been told that my '95 VR-4  probably has a hybrid ECU,
>perhaps not conforming to the pin-functions of either an OBD1 or
>OBD2.

Exactly ! But the pin layout should be the same of your year and the full
ODB-II years.

>Hell, I found a diagram in the APEXi book that exatly replicates
>the Mitsubishi diagram in my OEM shop manual, so I'm gonna assume
>they're compatible, and go ahead and wire it this way.

The wires should not be a problem at all.

>My last problem regarding hooking up the hardware is where to
>penetrate the firewall with the wiring.  Any Ideas?

The rubber gromet on the left (behind and up the pedals) or right side
(behind the under panel cover near the venting fan)

Roger
93'3000GT TT


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Date: Thu, 9 Sep 1999 08:06:58 -0700
From: "Gross, Erik" <erik.gross@intel.com>
Subject: Team3S: Free Antenna Mast *gone*

Thanks to all who replied. 

And now, Bob, our next item is a slightly used Getrash tranny!  Is it behind
Door #1, Door #2, or Door#3? 

j/k :)

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Date: Thu, 09 Sep 1999 08:41:58 -0700
From: "Dr. John A. Tabler" <jtabler@summitmicro.com>
Subject: Team3S: engine squeaks when it rains

Hi All,
My engine squeaks when it rains.   A very slight, high pitched sound
which goes away after 5-10 minutes.  Sounds like it is coming from the
area of the belts.
I used to notice this problem when it rained, but before I could
diagnose it the dry season started.  It has not rained here for at least
four months.  Last night we got some rain and this morning the engine
squeaked.  The car ('92 VR4 TT no mods) is kept in a garage at home and
under cover at work.  It did not even get wet, so it must be a humidity
issue rather than something getting soaked.

I am hoping that someone here has experienced this and has a solution or
explanation.

Thanks,
John

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Date: Thu, 9 Sep 1999 10:52:25 -0500
From: "Brad Bedell" <bbedell@austin.rr.com>
Subject: RE: Team3S: engine squeaks when it rains

It is either the belts need tightened/replaced or a tensioner that has a bad
bearing.


Brad
Check out my home page:  http://home.austin.rr.com/overboost/
 E-Mail: bbedell@austin.rr.com ICQ#  3612682

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From: owner-stealth-3000gt@list.sirius.com
[mailto:owner-stealth-3000gt@list.sirius.com]On Behalf Of Dr. John A. Tabler
Sent: Thursday, September 09, 1999 10:42 AM
To: 3000GT
Subject: Team3S: engine squeaks when it rains

Hi All,
My engine squeaks when it rains.   A very slight, high pitched sound
which goes away after 5-10 minutes.  Sounds like it is coming from the
area of the belts.
I used to notice this problem when it rained, but before I could
diagnose it the dry season started.  It has not rained here for at least
four months.  Last night we got some rain and this morning the engine
squeaked.  The car ('92 VR4 TT no mods) is kept in a garage at home and
under cover at work.  It did not even get wet, so it must be a humidity
issue rather than something getting soaked.

I am hoping that someone here has experienced this and has a solution or
explanation.

Thanks,
John

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Date: Thu, 09 Sep 1999 11:02:26 -0500
From: Gabriel Estrada <typhoonzz@earthlink.net>
Subject: Team3S: Engine Coolant Light

Having a problem with my VR-4.  I am going through about a gallon of
anti-freeze every 3 days.  I have a completely dry garage and absolutely no
leaks that I can find with the motor idleing.  My first suspiscion would be
a water pump, but in my not knowing what to look for, as I have no clue
where it is.  Not familiar with breaking down the motor in these cars?
Anyone else have this problem?  Can't find any breaks in the radiator lines
I don't know what else to look for.  Also the a/c warning light comes on
intermittantly and when I start it up, have no a/c.  Kill the motor and
restart and the a/c is fine.
Any suggestions?
Thanks in advance,
Gabriel Estrada
94 Pearl Yellow VR-4
92 GMC Black Typhoon

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Date: Thu, 9 Sep 1999 14:43:57 -0400
From: "Bob Rand" <rtr@vnet.net>
Subject: Re: Team3S: Engine Coolant Light

Gabriel,  Sometimes the loss of engine coolant with no visible sign of a
leak can be attributied to a blown head gasket or cracked head.  The coolant
is vaporized in the combustion process.

check your spark plugs for an even burn pattern between all the plugs.  If
you find one that looks exceptionally clean compared to the others, it may
lead to the problem.

Bob
93 STealth TT
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From: Gabriel Estrada <typhoonzz@earthlink.net>
To: 3000GT <stealth-3000gt@list.sirius.com>
Date: Thursday, September 09, 1999 12:04 PM
Subject: Team3S: Engine Coolant Light


>Having a problem with my VR-4.  I am going through about a gallon of
>anti-freeze every 3 days.  I have a completely dry garage and absolutely no
>leaks that I can find with the motor idleing.  My first suspiscion would be
>a water pump, but in my not knowing what to look for, as I have no clue
>where it is.  Not familiar with breaking down the motor in these cars?
>Anyone else have this problem?  Can't find any breaks in the radiator lines
>I don't know what else to look for.  Also the a/c warning light comes on
>intermittantly and when I start it up, have no a/c.  Kill the motor and
>restart and the a/c is fine.
>Any suggestions?
>Thanks in advance,
>Gabriel Estrada
>94 Pearl Yellow VR-4
>92 GMC Black Typhoon
>
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http://www.bobforrest.com/Team3S.htm
>

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Date: Thu, 9 Sep 1999 15:22:54 -0700
From: "Darcy Gunnlaugson" <wce@bc.sympatico.ca>
Subject: Team3S: Interlude

Woah....that interlude music nearly lulled me to sleep while I was waiting
for activity here.

Question; Was the CD trunk stacker an option in 92?  Nah, I really wasn't
asking that was I, I really wanted to know if you Spearco guys have really
stopped detonation with your setup?? I'll accept answers for either or both.

Darc

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