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Team3S Digest       Thursday, September 2 1999       Volume 01 : Number 274




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Date: Wed, 1 Sep 1999 08:22:36 -0500
From: "Wendlandt, Mark (MN51)" <MWendlan@cfsmo.honeywell.com>
Subject: RE: Team3S: transfer case fluid level

John,

>I am envisioning some sort of turkey baster  + length of small plastic hose
arrangement to
>refill it...   There has GOT to be a better way.  Any suggestions?

If you go to any Auto Parts store you can get a pump that will screw on top
of the gear lube container.  It has a hose that you can then put into the
fill hole and pump away. 

Mark Wendlandt
'91RT/TT

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Date: Wed, 01 Sep 1999 07:20:23 -0700
From: wce@bc.sympatico.ca
Subject: Re: Team3S: transfer case fluid level

John;

You got a reply to the first part of your request ("get it an an auto parts store", etc)
but no one bothered with the second request. Liquids are a matter of preference, but
Redline seems to be as much preferred in this application  as Mobil 1  is preferred in
the engine. Redline MT-90 is most often suggested on this list for the tranny, and
Redline Super heavy duty for the transfer case and rear end. Some have opted for the GM
synthetic in the tranny, or if available, a product called BG Synchroshift. The latter
is purportedly the best but is seldom availed. Check Porshe dealers for it.

Best

Darc

Dr. John A. Tabler wrote:

> I am having trouble with the check/fill port on my front transfer
> case.   The port is situated so that I really can't get at it to inspect
> the fluid level.  I've tried dental mirrors and all sorts of gadgets.
> I think I might just drain the fluid and replace it with the specified
> volume, but even access for filling is tricky.  I am envisioning some
> sort of turkey baster  + length of small plastic hose arrangement to
> refill it...   There has GOT to be a better way.  Any suggestions?
>
> I have a '92 VR-4.  The level should be about 0.5" below the hole.  As
> the transfer case thickness is about 3/4", I can't even get my finger in
> there.  The Mitsubishi book indicates that beginning in 1993 a third
> 'level check' port was added, and the proper level at the new port is
> flush with the bottom of the hole.    uh-hu.
>
> I'm going to check the rear axle fluid level as well.  Any suggestions
> on replacement fluids?
>
> Thanks,
> JAT
>
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Date: Wed, 1 Sep 1999 10:42:23 -0500 (EST)
From: Dennis Moore <stealth@kiva.net>
Subject: Team3S: Recommended Fluids (tranny and other)

Check out the following write-up for info on recommended fluids.

http://www.3si.org/fluids.html

Dennis Moore
stealth@kiva.net
93 Stealth ES

> >
> > I'm going to check the rear axle fluid level as well.  Any suggestions
> > on replacement fluids?
> >

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Date: Wed, 1 Sep 1999 10:43:42 -0500
From: S J Cowan <sjc0u812@juno.com>
Subject: Re: Team3S: Injector duty & new Apexi AVC-R

Gentlemen:

I too have purchased and installed (thanks to the incredible help of Darc
and Barry, I might add) the new AVC-R.  It is an incredible piece of
electronics, with a host of settings and displays.  I'll try to answer a
couple of these, but be fair warned, it's all very new to me, I'm new at
this, as I'm used to American built V8's, many moons ago.

>>monitoring of up to 4 different channels simultaneously in simulated
>analog
>> gauge (max 2 simultaneously), digitial readout (with hold & peak
>hold
>features),
>
>What are the 4 channels ?? I know IDC% but what else ?

As stated, the unit allows you to view one or two real time data
parameters at once.  In the "two" mode, you can monitor boost/throttle,
rpm/VDC, and vehicle speed/IDC .   I have been running with the boost and
throttle (which gives rpm) displays showing, along with the peak hold
feature set, to monitor boost spikes as the unit is still in the learning
mode.  I've found it helpful to use the actual number displays, versus
the analog gauge display (just easier for me to check).  The graph
display and replay feature are interesting to review and see how the run
went in 2-D or 3-D.  The unit also allows you to toggle between monitor
and setting to, in my situation, alter the BADC.  Right now mine is in
self learn at 66% BADC, in all ranges, except 3000, where I am
experimenting with 68% in this range.  On average, I'm sticking between
0.99 and 1.04 boost.  Still much to do though, including Gear Judge
Setting and specific Boost Control RPM Setting, which, if I'm following
this right, allows you to set parameters specific to the gears and alter
rpm ranges up or down (i.e., 1500-9000), and in 500 increments.

<<snip -- over my head Roger>>

>With the ability to set boost even on different rpm you should adapt
>this to
>the torque curve. Take Jims dyno sheet and increase boost at the
>valley
>between 3000 and 4800 to flatten it out on the higher level. Maybe
>5-7% as
>the max torque decrease was about 7%. This would be around 1.12 bar on
>this
>level. 3000 should not be higher as then the hearable knock would
>start
>there at first.
>
>Therefore the settings can be the following for a start :
>2700 : 1.05
>4200 : 1.12
>5000 : 1.05
>5200 : 1.00
>5500 : 1.00
>
>This is just an idea and you can use the other three settigns for more
>in
>the higher area but as you said, the 9B will probably not be able to
>hold
>boost.

This is interesting as SOTP setting for me was 70% BADC at 1 bar.  The
unit has learned back up close to that and with a couple of spikes, I
backed it down.  As the unit has learned, the spikes are reappearing in a
lower BADC.  I've noticed the want (need?  Hehe) to move the rpm range
down and try increase power sooner/lower and then let it taper off, like
2500-3500 range.  Once I hit 3500, most is behind me.  Is this "wrong?"
Do tell.

Thanks, and best regards,

Scott
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Date: Wed, 1 Sep 1999 12:29:30 -600
From: syzygy@webzone.net
Subject: Team3S: Nice to See

All,

Just wanted to say. I used to be on the starnet/dragnet lists a couple years
ago when I had my 92 Stealth RT/TT. At that time there seemed to be very few
3Si owners that were interested in performance. Most questions on the list seemed
to be about stereo modifications and other non, performance issues. Heck, I
HAD the 4th fastest 3Si recorded when I got off the list and it was only a 12.72
second 1/4 mile!

Now I find that I've been bumped well down the list of quickest 3si's and I'm
happy to see it happen. The state of performance modifications on our cars has
evolved from DIY bleeder valves and aftermarket exhausts to modifying the stock
fuel mix, using real boost controllers, etc.

Can't wait to go to one of those Bay Area Gatherings (and WCG's for that matter)
and meet up with some other people that are working on taking an excellent sports
car to the limits.

Nissa
95 VR-4 with Speed Dimples
Don't mess in the affairs of dragons.
For you are crunchy and go good with ketchup.
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Date: Wed, 01 Sep 1999 10:40:42 -0700
From: Ken Middaugh <Kenneth.Middaugh@gat.com>
Subject: Re: Team3S: Injector duty & new Apexi AVC-R

> What are the 4 channels ?? I know IDC% but what else ?

You can select 1, 2, 3, or 4 parameters for simultaneous real-time display.  The
update rate is very fast, I'd guess at least 15-20Hz.  Any combination from the
following 6 parameters can be selected in any order:  boost, RPM, vehicle speed,
throttle position (voltage), solenoid valve duty cycle, and injector duty %.  If
you display in the "analog meter" display, you can only see a max of 2 (the
first 2) parameters at once.  The digital number display and graphs will show up
to 4 parameters simultaneously.  In analog meter & digital number mode, there is
a peak hold feature and a manual hold feature.  In the graph mode, there is a
record/replay mode.  It will record 60 seconds for 1 channel, 30 for 2, 20 for
3, and 15 seconds for 4 channels.  Using the digital number with peak hold, I
discovered that the boost only reaches a fraction of the set boost in 1st & 2nd
WOT runs.

There is also a mode where you can display a graph with one of the above
parameters on the Y axis against RPM on the X axis.  In this mode, you can
select 1 point, 10 point (it looks like a snake moving around the graph), or
ghost trace where all points remain illuminated until reset. You can also do a
manual hold, but I'm not sure if the peak hold works on this display.  It was
with this graph in ghost trace that I could determine the RPM where my IDC
usually hit 100%.


<good information snipped>
>
> Therefore the settings can be the following for a start :
> 2700 : 1.05
> 4200 : 1.12
> 5000 : 1.05
> 5200 : 1.00
> 5500 : 1.00

Ahhh, there are limitations :).  RPM ranges are in increments of 500 and boost
settings are in 0.05 kg/cm^2 increments.  You bring up an interesting idea
though of selecting settings to deliver a smooth torque curve.  I originally was
thinking of peaking early then reducing to safe levels but this would result in
a more erratic torque curve.
- --
Drive faster, it is later than you think!

Ken Middaugh (858) 455-4510
General Atomics
San Diego
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Date: Thu, 2 Sep 1999 16:13:52 -0400
From: "Wallis, Gavin" <WallisG@MWAA.com>
Subject: Team3S: Newby/General FAQ

Ok, head honcho Bob Forrest has graciously donated some web-space for a
Newby/General FAQ.

I've looked at the 3000gt.com "Modifications" section and think it's
probably best to just have a single FAQ/document page that we can point
people to and say "to answer your question goto:
www.bobforrest.com/3sifaq.html and search for keyword xxx".

Thus, please e-mail me all the newby questions around that you can think of.
I'll compile a list with some answers and send it to Mr. Forrest. Afterwards
he can throw it up somewhere and we can all proof it and make improvements.
From now on we can cut back extra e-mail even more so.

One thing to remember: These really should not be overly debatable
topics/questions. Lets stick to general, agreed upon, simple things that are
a pain to type 100x a week and clutter the list. Either way, when there are
differing opinions, ALL of them will be in the FAQ.

Examples:

What's the general going price of a K&N FIPK?
What's a decent website to order parts from? (will list all that come
forward of course)
What's a 15g turbo?
What's a VPC?
How do I unsubscribe? <g>
What's this I hear about ground control springs?
Is Roger a ex-Mitsubishi engineer? <g>

I suppose this FAQ will quickly get ridiculously out of hand and kill all
lists. Oh well, let us give it a shot anyways :).

Thanks,
Gavin
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