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Team3S Digest Monday, August 30 1999 Volume 01 : Number 271

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Date: Sun, 29 Aug 1999 16:23:44 +0200
From: lehir@genesiscom.ch (Genesiscon Lehir)
Subject: RE: Team3S: Porterfield brake pads (another try)

Hi Roger.

Too bad you did NOT ask when we met last week....could have made a ride in
my Stealth :-)

>>Ok, I have not gotten any answer on my question about any source where to
get
>>the Porterfield pads. I finally got to their web site and I maybe have to
order
>>them by phone.

Well, of course, you can do it by phone....be prepared to listen to "MORM"
while
they're maikinf you wait....OR....you can send your order to
timg@globalpac.com

>>Now they have three types and I'd like to know what the experiences are
with R4,
>>R4S or R4E are.

I have the R4S, with the cryo rotors. This combination allows me to stop at
0.98 to 1.0G,
it's acceptable...

Best
Henri

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Date: Sun, 29 Aug 1999 10:20:27 -0500
From: xwing <xwing@execpc.com>
Subject: Team3S: Re: Porterfield brake pads

The R4 work great but take a little heat to get to maximum
friction. They can leave positively EVIL brake dust in
race track use, where it comes off superheated; my old stock
set of 93 VR4 non-chrome rims had to have the "dust" chiseled
off by myself, using edge of hacksaw blade, putty knife, screwdriver
etc as it had "armor-plated" onto the rim! Would I use them again?
YES! They were very grippy. They did wear MUCH faster than
the Pagid Blue (race) compound, but the Pagids had less friction/
stopping power. Note, I used the R4 on stock 91-93 (smaller)
front brakes, but the Pagids on the Brembo/Stillen upgrade to 12.2"
rotors; so Pagids wore longer in part because the pads are LARGER
on the Brembo setup. I hope to try the Barbeque Method Of Brakepad
Breakin for the R4 on the Brembos, as Shawn suggests. This should be
the best potential for the Brembo 12.2" front/91-93 smaller rear brake setup...

R4S leave maybe half the brakedust the R4 do. Never tried them on
the track, as I knew they were not the max-ability setup and brakes on
our cars definitely need max effort help.

Pagid blue in my Brembo setup wear VERY SLOWLY, can get multiple
driverschools from a set of fronts, but not as grippy as R4. For the rear,
can use a set of R4 and get maybe YEARS out of them because they are
not used much...

Jack Tertadian

"R.G." wrote:

> >>I use R4s on street; good for daily driving; lasts long, quiet.
> >They wear like butter because not up to operating
> >temperature; that is also source of squealing on the
> >street. When pads come to race temp they have much better
> >stopping power and no squeal.Try cooking them BBQ grill before using.
> >Pad life is greatly increased after initially heat cycling pads on the grill.
>
> Does this apply to R4s or R4? Do R4s wear like butter
> or R4 ? I plan one set winter and summer, but
> aim is one good set for all seasons. Pagid Orange took
> long time to work with snow, -10°C; I hope R4s
> work quicker. For track R4 may work better.
> I ordered set R4 and R4s from Porterfield.
> Roger 93 3000GT TT

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Date: Sun, 29 Aug 1999 18:00:08 -0700
From: "Jim Berry" <fastmax@home.com>
Subject: Re: Team3S: Re: Porterfield brake pads

Not a Porterfield question but about Performance friction pads. I've been
referred to Performance Friction by several race types, but I haven't seen
much discussion from this group. Has anyone tried their racing pads and
if so do you have any comments.

Jim Berry

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Date: Mon, 5 Jul 1999 19:13:45 -0600
From: "Kevin Fanciulli" <nebula9@home.com>
Subject: Team3S: Blitz Dual Turbo Timer Install -- HELP!

Blitz owners, please help! The manual that came with this thing is entirely
in japanese!

I'm having trouble installing the Blitz Dual Turbo Timer in my '92 Stealth
RT/TT. I got the harness and have already hooked it up... The unit turns
on, but it doesn't keep the car running after I shut the ignition off -- the
unit just turns off. I'm thinking it has something to do with the other 3
wires that come out the back of the TT unit. Do I need to hook these up?
(they are purple, orange, and white).

Thanks!
- -kevin fanciulli
'92 Stealth RT/TT

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Date: Sun, 29 Aug 1999 22:14:33 -0500
From: "Oskar" <swede@pclink.com>
Subject: Re: Team3S: Blitz Dual Turbo Timer Install -- HELP!

Kevin,

the purple wire connects to the parking brake sensor. The sensor is located
towards the bottom of the parking brake lever. I think you can get to it
without removing the center console if you remove the carpeted trim piece
right next to the parking brake lever. On my '95 there is one wire coming
out of this sensor, but someone rumored that there are two wires on earlier
models. Splice in the purple wire to the wire leading out of this sensor
and the turbo timer will operate while the parking brake is on. Also make
sure to wrap some electrical tape around the white and orange wires. You
will not need to connect these. Good luck!

Oskar
'95 R/T TT

- -----Original Message-----
From: Kevin Fanciulli <nebula9@home.com>
To: stealth-3000gt@list.sirius.com <stealth-3000gt@list.sirius.com>
Date: Sunday, August 29, 1999 8:13 PM
Subject: Team3S: Blitz Dual Turbo Timer Install -- HELP!

>Blitz owners, please help! The manual that came with this thing is
entirely
>in japanese!
>
>I'm having trouble installing the Blitz Dual Turbo Timer in my '92 Stealth
>RT/TT. I got the harness and have already hooked it up... The unit turns
>on, but it doesn't keep the car running after I shut the ignition off --
the
>unit just turns off. I'm thinking it has something to do with the other 3
>wires that come out the back of the TT unit. Do I need to hook these up?
>(they are purple, orange, and white).
>
>Thanks!
>-kevin fanciulli
>'92 Stealth RT/TT
>
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http://www.bobforrest.com/Team3S.htm
>

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Date: Sun, 29 Aug 1999 22:44:31 -0500
From: "Dennis Moore" <stealth@kiva.net>
Subject: Team3S: Tech FAQ page??

Hi All,

We've had several discussions over the months, many of them starting with
the question "What kind of _____ should I buy for my S/3K?" Fill in the
blank: tires, brake pads, BOV, boost timers, etc. BUT, we never seem to
build consensus, or read any summaries of the discussion. We're left with
snippets and snatches of conversation, and the real pearls seem to get
buried in a lot of "I thought ___" discussion. Plus, when a newbie comes on
the scene in a couple weeks, we'll rehash the entire issue again when they
ask the same question.

Are any of you aware of any pages or sites that have compiled summaries of
concrete recommendations? I've just finished a quick perusal of 3si.org and
3000gt.com. 3si.org comes close with their pages on Staged Upgrades and
Mods & Vendors, but I don't see any real recommendations. The best example
of what I'd like to see is the write up that Jeff Curtis (RIP) did on
Recommended Fluids.

Do such pages exist for the other mechanical issues, or am I asking for the
moon?

Thanks.

Dennis Moore
stealth@kiva.net
93 Stealth ES

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Date: Mon, 30 Aug 1999 07:08:02 PDT
From: "Eric Lotter" <elotter@hotmail.com>
Subject: Team3S: Please populate the FAQ section in the NEW messagebard

Hey all,

This is a request for the members here to make some comments and suggestions
in the new messageboard on 3Si, as well as an opprotunity to populate the
FAQ forum.

check it out @ http://www.3si.org/cgi/Ultimate.cgi

Thanks.

Eric

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