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Team3S Digest        Wednesday, August 18 1999        Volume 01 : Number 261




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Date: Tue, 17 Aug 1999 22:11:45 -0500
From: "Brad Bedell" <bbedell@austin.rr.com>
Subject: RE: Team3S: RPS Turbo Carbon Clutch

As irritating as it is to me to do things "more than once" for the simple
fact due to the way I was handled as a customer, I will be putting the new
RPS clutch in my car.

For the money, I don't think there is a better clutch.


Brad
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- -----Original Message-----
From: owner-stealth-3000gt@list.sirius.com
[mailto:owner-stealth-3000gt@list.sirius.com]On Behalf Of TJHTAX@aol.com
Sent: Tuesday, August 17, 1999 6:33 PM
To: stealth-3000gt@list.sirius.com
Subject: Re: Team3S: RPS Turbo Carbon Clutch

Would anyone that bought the clutch in a TT car do it again, or is there a
better clutch out there to be had.
Tom 91 VR4
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Date: Tue, 17 Aug 1999 21:05:29 -0600
From: "Palamara, Peter" <pala@gwl.com>
Subject: RE: Team3S: RPS Turbo Carbon Clutch

I'll stick with my centerforce. Great clutch and lasts and lasts as long as
my car runs :)

92 3000 GTO S.C.
Soon to be exactly what the plates say :)
Plates (HIPRESR)
1-800-888-gwla x4733


- -----Original Message-----
From: Brad Bedell [mailto:bbedell@austin.rr.com]
Sent: Tuesday, August 17, 1999 9:12 PM
To: TJHTAX@aol.com; stealth-3000gt@list.sirius.com
Subject: RE: Team3S: RPS Turbo Carbon Clutch


As irritating as it is to me to do things "more than once" for the simple
fact due to the way I was handled as a customer, I will be putting the new
RPS clutch in my car.

For the money, I don't think there is a better clutch.


Brad
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- -----Original Message-----
From: owner-stealth-3000gt@list.sirius.com
[mailto:owner-stealth-3000gt@list.sirius.com]On Behalf Of TJHTAX@aol.com
Sent: Tuesday, August 17, 1999 6:33 PM
To: stealth-3000gt@list.sirius.com
Subject: Re: Team3S: RPS Turbo Carbon Clutch

Would anyone that bought the clutch in a TT car do it again, or is there a
better clutch out there to be had.
Tom 91 VR4
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Date: Tue, 17 Aug 1999 20:20:55 -0700
From: wce@bc.sympatico.ca
Subject: Re: Team3S: RPS Turbo Carbon Clutch

Brad Bedell wrote:

> As irritating as it is to me to do things "more than once",  for the simple
> fact due to the way I was handled as a customer, I will be putting the new
> RPS clutch in my car.
>
> For the money, I don't think there is a better clutch.

Brad;;

Ditto that. After all the heat I endured with my posting, I'm happy to see that I am not
the only one who will be doing things twice, and happy to be doing it. RPS has been
stand up as far as I am concerned,  and,  they are obviously  motivated to be the
leading edge in clutch performance, design, and production.

Darc




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Date: Tue, 17 Aug 1999 20:27:19 -0700
From: wce@bc.sympatico.ca
Subject: Team3S: Re: RPS Turbo Carbon Clutch

Brad Bedell wrote:

> As irritating as it is to me to do things "more than once",
for the simple
> fact due to the way I was handled as a customer, I will be
putting the new
> RPS clutch in my car.
>
> For the money, I don't think there is a better clutch.

Brad;

Ditto that. After all the heat I endured with my posting, I'm
happy
to see that I am not
the only one who will be doing things twice, and happy to be
doing
it. RPS has been
stand up as far as I am concerned,  but,  they are obviously
motivated to be the
leading edge in clutch performance, design, and production.

Darc






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Date: Wed, 18 Aug 1999 09:48:15 CDT
From: "Curt Gendron" <curt_gendron@hotmail.com>
Subject: Team3S: Stillen Downpipe

Hey everyone,

I just got a Stillen catalog yesterday.  As I was thumbing threw it, I ran
across their new downpipe for our cars.  It replaces the front pre-cat,
downpipe and main cat.  This looks like a good solution for people looking
to do all of these.  The new Apex Motorsports (
http://www.apexvr4.com/vr4dawg/index.html ) sells this unit for $399.  That
seems like a good price for something like this.  Just wanted to pass along
some info.

I went to the drag strip on Sunday with my Water Injection installed.  I
still couldn't break into the 12s.  My best time was 13.11 seconds and my
best speed was 105.9 mph.  I think I'm losing boost through the stock BOV. 
I think it might be time to buy a 1g DSM BOV.  It sure is nice to run over
17psi on the street on pump gas though.  ;)

Happy boosting,
Curt,
95 R/T TT --> 13.11 @ 105.9 mph
96 GSX --> 14.49 @ 92.9 mph
and author of Minnesota 3/S at: http://www.mn3s.org


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Date: Wed, 18 Aug 1999 17:10:54 +0200
From: "R.G." <robby@freesurf.ch>
Subject: Team3S: Losing boost (was: Stillen Downpipe)

>I went to the drag strip on Sunday with my Water Injection installed.  I
>still couldn't break into the 12s.  My best time was 13.11 seconds and my
>best speed was 105.9 mph.  I think I'm losing boost through the stock BOV.
>I think it might be time to buy a 1g DSM BOV.

Hmm, but you are reading 17psi of boost, do you ?
Also, have you already tried a smaller water nozzle ? It's possible to
"overcool" the chamber by delivering too much water. This causes a steal in
power as there is too much that can't be burnt. Also I'd highly interested
in seeing some comparable temp measures like Brad and myself wrote down.
Have you a chance to install two nozzles of half the current size to install
them in different locations ?

Later
Roger
93'3000GT TT

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Date: Wed, 18 Aug 1999 11:45:54 CDT
From: "Curt Gendron" <curt_gendron@hotmail.com>
Subject: Re: Team3S: Losing boost (was: Stillen Downpipe)

I've got the .25mm nozzle in there.  From all of John's testing he
determined that this one was the best for our engine.  The peak boost was
around 1.2 to 1.25 kg/cm2  But the sustained boost was more like 1.10.  And
that was with the Blitz maxed out.  I think a new BOV will help.  And I want
to go with the DSM 1g because I don't want my car to stumble or die during
daily driving.  I've heard a lot of stories about aftermarket ones doing
that.  But I did discover my T-connector came undone that goes to my
Autometer boost gauge.  I noticed this after my third run at the strip.  And
I'm not sure if this was a problem during my testing on Friday.  I'll do
more testing tonight.

Does anyone have an aftermarket BOV (Blitz, Apex, Greddy, HKS) that doesn't
cause odd side effects like stumbling or the engine dying??

just wondering,
Curt


>From: "R.G." <robby@freesurf.ch>
>Reply-To: "R.G." <robby@freesurf.ch>
>To: <stealth-3000gt@list.sirius.com>
>Subject: Team3S: Losing boost (was: Stillen Downpipe)
>Date: Wed, 18 Aug 1999 17:10:54 +0200
>
> >I went to the drag strip on Sunday with my Water Injection installed.  I
> >still couldn't break into the 12s.  My best time was 13.11 seconds and my
> >best speed was 105.9 mph.  I think I'm losing boost through the stock
>BOV.
> >I think it might be time to buy a 1g DSM BOV.
>
>Hmm, but you are reading 17psi of boost, do you ?
>Also, have you already tried a smaller water nozzle ? It's possible to
>"overcool" the chamber by delivering too much water. This causes a steal in
>power as there is too much that can't be burnt. Also I'd highly interested
>in seeing some comparable temp measures like Brad and myself wrote down.
>Have you a chance to install two nozzles of half the current size to
>install
>them in different locations ?
>
>Later
>Roger
>93'3000GT TT
>
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Date: Wed, 18 Aug 1999 14:38:38 -0400
From: "Bob Rand" <rtr@vnet.net>
Subject: Team3S: Welding Tranny Case

Hey Guys,  I have a spare tranny, but; the case is broken at the motor
mount.
Need some advice from those that have experience with welding.

Can the case be welded?   I'm not sure what kind of metal it is or what
would be used to repair it.  Sure would like to save it if possible.

Bob
93 Stealth TT

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Date: Wed, 18 Aug 1999 12:44:07 -0600
From: "Palamara, Peter" <pala@gwl.com>
Subject: Team3S: TRUE RICE!!!

You gotta check this out!

http://hybrid.honda-perf.org/alley/messages/8876.shtml

92 3000 GTO S.C.
Soon to be exactly what the plates say :)
Plates (HIPRESR)
1-800-888-gwla x4733

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Date: Wed, 18 Aug 1999 14:29:11 -0500
From: Wayne Hietala <wala@hypertech-inc.com>
Subject: Re: Team3S: Welding Tranny Case

Bob,
90% of the 3000gt trannys that come from junkyards have been welded in that
same location. Almost all 3/s's that have been hit in the front (including
mine) break at that mount. They can be sucsesfully repaired if you have all
the pieces. The best way to do it is to fasten the pieces to the mount,
then weld it back to the case, That way, all 3 bolt holes will line up.
Also, make sure all loose pieces are out of the tranny before running it. I
havent had any problems with mine since it was put back together.

Wayne


At 01:38 PM 8/18/99 , Bob Rand wrote:
>Hey Guys,  I have a spare tranny, but; the case is broken at the motor
>mount.
>Need some advice from those that have experience with welding.
>
>Can the case be welded?   I'm not sure what kind of metal it is or what
>would be used to repair it.  Sure would like to save it if possible.
>
>Bob
>93 Stealth TT


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Date: Wed, 18 Aug 1999 17:58:20 -0400
From: "Carlos Q" <pir8ska@shadow.net>
Subject: Re: Team3S: Losing boost

I have a GReddy type-s bov in my 92 vr4 and it has caused me no problems...
however, I have heard that you can't use bov's that vent to atmosphere in
the 95 and up models. anyone with a little more technical flavor want to
jump in on this discussion?

Carlos

- -----Original Message-----
From: Curt Gendron <curt_gendron@hotmail.com>
To: stealth-3000gt@list.sirius.com <stealth-3000gt@list.sirius.com>
Date: Wednesday, August 18, 1999 12:52 PM
Subject: Re: Team3S: Losing boost (was: Stillen Downpipe)


>I've got the .25mm nozzle in there.  From all of John's testing he
>determined that this one was the best for our engine.  The peak boost was
>around 1.2 to 1.25 kg/cm2  But the sustained boost was more like 1.10.  And
>that was with the Blitz maxed out.  I think a new BOV will help.  And I
want
>to go with the DSM 1g because I don't want my car to stumble or die during
>daily driving.  I've heard a lot of stories about aftermarket ones doing
>that.  But I did discover my T-connector came undone that goes to my
>Autometer boost gauge.  I noticed this after my third run at the strip.
And
>I'm not sure if this was a problem during my testing on Friday.  I'll do
>more testing tonight.
>
>Does anyone have an aftermarket BOV (Blitz, Apex, Greddy, HKS) that doesn't
>cause odd side effects like stumbling or the engine dying??
>
>just wondering,
>Curt
>
>
>>From: "R.G." <robby@freesurf.ch>
>>Reply-To: "R.G." <robby@freesurf.ch>
>>To: <stealth-3000gt@list.sirius.com>
>>Subject: Team3S: Losing boost (was: Stillen Downpipe)
>>Date: Wed, 18 Aug 1999 17:10:54 +0200
>>
>> >I went to the drag strip on Sunday with my Water Injection installed.  I
>> >still couldn't break into the 12s.  My best time was 13.11 seconds and
my
>> >best speed was 105.9 mph.  I think I'm losing boost through the stock
>>BOV.
>> >I think it might be time to buy a 1g DSM BOV.
>>
>>Hmm, but you are reading 17psi of boost, do you ?
>>Also, have you already tried a smaller water nozzle ? It's possible to
>>"overcool" the chamber by delivering too much water. This causes a steal
in
>>power as there is too much that can't be burnt. Also I'd highly interested
>>in seeing some comparable temp measures like Brad and myself wrote down.
>>Have you a chance to install two nozzles of half the current size to
>>install
>>them in different locations ?
>>
>>Later
>>Roger
>>93'3000GT TT
>>
>>For subscribe/unsubscribe info, our web page is
>>http://www.bobforrest.com/Team3S.htm
>>
>
>
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Date: Thu, 19 Aug 1999 00:09:09 +0200
From: "R.G." <robby@freesurf.ch>
Subject: Re: Team3S: Losing boost (was: Stillen Downpipe)

>I've got the .25mm nozzle in there.

Hmm, I'm running a 0.4mm and 0.5mm jet and still are getting knock !

>The peak boost was around 1.2 to 1.25 kg/cm2  But the sustained boost
> was more like 1.10.  And that was with the Blitz maxed out.
> I think a new BOV will help.

Interesting ! I was able to get 1.34 kg/cm2 with G36/R60

>And I want to go with the DSM 1g because I don't want my car to
>stumble or die during daily driving.

I had the HKS SBOV on the car. I then felt a little "nad" feeling at low
bosot when I lift the throttle a little. I then wanted to adjust it and
everything got worser. It's not easy to set up but if done properly I don't
see a problem with a twin-chamber BOV.

> I've heard a lot of stories about aftermarket ones doing that.

Especially the single-chamber ones !

> But I did discover my T-connector came undone that goes to my
>Autometer boost gauge.  I noticed this after my third run at the strip.
And
>I'm not sure if this was a problem during my testing on Friday.  I'll do
>more testing tonight.

I just runned 1.09kg/cm2 and got some hesitation tonight ! This is where I
wish to have a black box in my car !

>Does anyone have an aftermarket BOV (Blitz, Apex, Greddy, HKS) that doesn't
>cause odd side effects like stumbling or the engine dying??

As said, the twin chambers do nothing bad to the driveability. It's always a
tune-in problem.

Regards
Roger
93'3000GT TT


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Date: Wed, 18 Aug 1999 18:28:19 -0400
From: Kermit Burroughs <kermitb@richmond.infi.net>
Subject: Team3S: Losing boost (was: Stillen Downpipe

Curt Gendron wrote:

>  I think a new BOV will help.  And I want
> to go with the DSM 1g because I don't want my car to stumble or die
during
> daily driving.  I've heard a lot of stories about aftermarket ones
doing
> that.

I try to follow threads that involve this because my car has a weird
stumble around
2800-3100 rpm.  Only in that rpm range.  It isn't bad, and at WOT it
doesn't _seem_ to
happen.  I do have the Blitz BOV on, and, quite likely, this didn't
happen until after
the install.  Hard to remember actually. I've never really read anything

definitive, but
it could have happened before I was on the list.  Is this really common?

Thanks.
- --
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Date: Wed, 18 Aug 1999 19:51:38 -0700
From: "Ryan Peterson" <ryanp@crcwnet.com>
Subject: Team3S: I need dimensions FAST

My car is 150 miles away getting painted, so I can't do this myself.  But I
need the following dimensions by tomorrow.  If anyone can help, please email
me directly   mailto:ryanp@crcwnet.com

1) Wheelbase, (front to rear)
2) Distance outside wheel face to wheel face (left to right)
3) distance between the underbody weld flange each side of car (left to
right).  You know, where the scissor jack mounts?

thanks a bunch
Ryan

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Date: Wed, 18 Aug 1999 20:09:45 -0700
From: "Jim Berry" <fastmax@home.com>
Subject: Team3S: Re: I need dimensions FAST

> My car is 150 miles away getting painted, so I can't do this myself.  But I
> need the following dimensions by tomorrow.  If anyone can help, please email
> me directly   mailto:ryanp@crcwnet.com
>
> 1) Wheelbase, (front to rear)
> 2) Distance outside wheel face to wheel face (left to right)
> 3) distance between the underbody weld flange each side of car (left to
> right).  You know, where the scissor jack mounts?


1)  97.2"
2)  72.4"
3)  not a clue --- 61.4" is the tread width, looks like the center line of the wheel.
     It looks about right for the width of the flange. I dont have my car available to
     measure it.

   Jim Berry

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