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Team3S Digest         Tuesday, August 10 1999         Volume 01 : Number 253




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Date: Mon, 9 Aug 1999 00:20:47 EDT
From: TurboDrvn@aol.com
Subject: Re: Team3S: Stutter (AFC ...)

In a message dated 8/8/99 10:55:55 AM Central Daylight Time,
robby@freesurf.ch writes:

<< What do you think that the AFC will do good for you ? Your listing showed
no
 larger injectors so what have you done that you'll not hit fuel cut then ?
 Do you want to increase fuel around 5500 ... just forget it. You'll get fuel
 cut much earlier than you do now. Unless you've larger injectors installed
 you can only set the mixture leaner and we know that this doesn't help to
 get rid of hesitations and fuel cut. An AFC without larger injectors is a
 waste of money (my very own experience !)
 
 Roger
 93'3000GT TT
  >>

Thanks Roger,

    I haven't installed the New Apex'i Super AFC yet due to the fact that my
VR4 is in the body shop; but I will soon have the 550cc. injectors, HKS fuel
pump and bigger turbos installed; I appreciate you watching out for me!

Ahmed "AL-Crazy"

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Date: Mon, 9 Aug 1999 00:24:56 EDT
From: TurboDrvn@aol.com
Subject: Re: Team3S: "Track exhaust";

In a message dated 8/8/99 10:55:55 AM Central Daylight Time,
robby@freesurf.ch writes:

<< I agree with the high temps then especially close to the transfer case and
 the fron plastic parts.
 
 A really good track exhaust would be :
 
 - gutting the pre-cats
 - after market dp without testpipe
 - testpipe that is bent to the drivers side
 
 Someone tested this already ?
  >>
 
I had posted this same question about a year ago and had minimal response; no
one informed me if they tried this or not; I was seriously contemplating on
trying this method as I have done with my Buick GN; but someone from our
liste advised me NOT to attempt this DUMP method (testpipe that is bent to
the driver's side).   I would assume that would truly help in 1/4 mile times!
 So I simply decided to gut all cats and go with the Alamo DP and Borla
exhaust.

Ahmed "AL-Crazy"
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Date: Mon, 09 Aug 1999 11:58:16 -0500
From: xwing <xwing@execpc.com>
Subject: Team3S: 3S List Endurance Race Project?

Endurance Racing Project!

Hmm, maybe we should consider a small (or large) group effort for a 24 Hours
of
Nelson Ledges...would be good to have a few drivers and some
crew/support...of course, what sort of car and all would depend on the
rules specifics.  I'd be happy to run a light weight,  lower hp car easy on
brakes, mostly stock = reliable, like a Honda CRX (I have one :)  Better
yet, maybe a MITSUBISHI/Dodge Colt, they run forever, with a big
Triple Diamond on the hood/doors, 3000/Stealth Internet sites...Will  have to
find out
what races are out there (12 hrs Sebring, whatever at Nelson...Daytona
is likely way too  high dollar for an initial "Army of Darkness Racing"
type Shoestring-Operation-Against-the-World effort...
What on-track experience/licensure might be required by the sanctioning
body...

I bet Barry King the ex-cycle racer would sign onto this; wonder who else
I could con into it...Shawn Dewey is still lurking out there, and has good
experience...
John Christian...David Skultety...many others...I bet we could put together
QUITE the
group of mostly-ameteur Enthusiasts to make a minor go of a once-
(if EVER)-in-a-lifetime "24 Hours of Someplace" race.
The Stories we'd be able to tell until the day we died!
Oh, the Humanities!   Oh, the Horror...24 hours of keeping a little
Mitsubishi box running...Shockproof Heavy in the transaxle...
Mobil 1 15W50...little, inexpensive tires and stock rims...

Of course, doing it in a 3000GT would be the pinnacle, but maybe the
first year in a little SuperInexpensive car as a first year feasibility/fun
quotient study?  It could be a King of "Gatherings"...we'd drive there in
our various 3000GTs and Stealths;I have a new enclosed trailer and an old
Suburban tow vehicle could be used; and whatever happened, at the end,
we'd go home with good memories, new friends, and would undoubtedly make a
minor
name for ourselves as a Group of people most of whom never saw each
other before, who got together such an effort mostly by Internet--whose
commonality
is 3000GT and Stealths!  Talk about an unlikely group to do such a thing...
It could be great, just the attempting it!  If we were able to actually
FINISH the
whole race running, we'd be WAY ahead of the curve!  What place we'd be in
would be mostly unimportant, it would be the DOING of it...

Would have to be prepared with lots of spare brakes, tires/rims, and
various alcoholic beverages--in case the thing broke irreparably before the
full race was run... [cackle maniacally]...
Shall I send out the Gumballs in the mail?  Who might be in for such a
thing?!

Jack Tertadian
Member, Road Warrior Contingent, 3000GT Mailing Lists


Merritt wrote:

> Dr. Jack T and I are thinking about sharing a car for the 24 hr at Nelsons.
>
> Rich/old poop

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Date: Mon, 9 Aug 1999 02:36:36 -0400
From: "Carlos Q" <pir8ska@shadow.net>
Subject: Team3S: Active aero removal question....

Most people have said that the only functional part of the VR-4's (I
personally have a 1992) active aero system is the front air dam (which was
constantly getting stuck on my car). My problem is that I am trying to do
something a little on the "custom" side regarding an intercooler for my car,
so I have completely removed the plastic underside and the motor that
controls it.

What happens now is that the "aero" light comes on in the dashboard as soon
as the aero system disengages, and dissallows further use of it until you
reset it (turning off the car, removing key, re-starting). Does anyone know
a work around for this? I'd like to still be able to use the spoiler (if
nothing else, because I like how it looks...)

Thanks alot!
Carlos

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Date: Mon, 9 Aug 1999 02:58:02 -0400
From: "Carlos Q" <pir8ska@shadow.net>
Subject: Team3S: Aftermarket hoods and whatnot

Since I saw the posts from the guys at accelerated accessories about a
carbon fiber hood, I remembered: wasn't someone going to try and make a mold
for carbon fiber and fiberglass hoods that had a hood scoop (like that of a
viper gts) and vents at the strut covers? did this plan go anywhere? does
anyone have any information on this?

BTW, to the people at accelerated: that is a Beautiful hood! did you
actually have those made? Or were you just carrying someone elses hood? if
so, who makes it?

Wishing I had enough money to get that CF hood,
Carlos

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Date: Mon, 9 Aug 1999 09:18:10 +0200
From: "R.G." <robby@freesurf.ch>
Subject: Re: Team3S: Stutter (AFC ...)

>    I haven't installed the New Apex'i Super AFC yet due to the fact that
my
>VR4 is in the body shop; but I will soon have the 550cc. injectors, HKS
fuel
>pump and bigger turbos installed; I appreciate you watching out for me!


Makes sense :) Let us know how the new AFC works with the 550 on our cars.

Roger
93'3000GT TT

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Date: Mon, 9 Aug 1999 09:33:29 +0200
From: "R.G." <robby@freesurf.ch>
Subject: Re: Team3S: Aftermarket hoods and whatnot

>Since I saw the posts from the guys at accelerated accessories about a
>carbon fiber hood, I remembered: wasn't someone going to try and make a
mold
>for carbon fiber and fiberglass hoods that had a hood scoop (like that of a
>viper gts) and vents at the strut covers? did this plan go anywhere? does
>anyone have any information on this?

Brian from GT PRO has a mold of the 1st gen hood taken from his own car.
It's possible to create some ducting or scoops but the problem is money-wise
related. It's a larger pre-investment by any reseller to let the hoods been
made (some of them at once to keep the initial costs per hood low) and then
selling the $1000 hoods is not that easy. I think if he's getting an order
of ten he'd do it immediatly.

Roger
93'3000GT TT



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Date: Mon, 9 Aug 1999 12:02:12 +0200
From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Mikael_=C5kesson?= <vr4@bahnhof.se>
Subject: Team3S: Important Getrag info (must read!)

The Getrag gearbox and transfercase have been discussed here hundreds of times.

I was driving ~110 km/h when I heard a terrible grinding sound from under the car and the rear wheels locked up. I managed to get the car to the side of the road without an accident. I'm very glad that this didn't happen in higher speed or in a curve because if it had then I probably couldn't be writing this...

There is a myth going around saying that the "mighty Getrag" can't be fixed. To kill that myth I fixed my transfer case by myself. Total cost for repair ~125$. (Mitsu qouted me over 2000$)

I have documented the whole "operation" of a Getrag transfer case with pictures of every part and also references to part numbers. Read all about it on my web page http://www.3000gt.nu (click on "Getrag")

Regards

Mikael Akesson http://www.3000gt.nu


 



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Date: Mon, 9 Aug 1999 07:54:00 -0400 (EDT)
From: ie886@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (John T. Christian)
Subject: Re: Team3S: Stutter

Hi Amhed,

Reply to message from TurboDrvn@aol.com of Sun, 08 Aug
>
[snip]
jc><< BUT sometimes if I get spunky, and forget about
jc>> throttle modulation, boost will hit 23+ and I get a fuel cut reminder.
>  >>

am>    I am curious; How are you able to hit 23 psi of boost?
- ---> 23 is ONLY momentary.....  as above "I get a fuel cut reminder".  I'm
also in third in the carrosell at anywhere between 65-80 with partial
throttle.  Just before the apex I start squeezing the throttle to WOT.  So
the boost increases rapidly and I have to remember to modulate the throttle
before I get a fuel cut reminder.  FC is no fun especially near the limit
of tire adheasion in a turn.  Definitely increases the pucker factor...

>  Do you have an HKS VPC?
- --->No fancy stuff.  Just a pressure regulator for manual boost control, a
track exhaust and a K&N. And as of last week new plugs to go with the 13gs
I installed two weeks ago.

> I experience fuel cut at anything close to 18-20psi in Cold weater
>(I do NOT have the VPC and have yet to install my new Apex'i Super AFC as
>soon as I get my VR4 back from the body shop); In hot weather I may be able
>to hit 20psi with no fuel cut. 
- ---> 18-20 did not seem to be a problem on the front straight.  But
remember --- this is not sustained for a looooonnng time as number one turn
comes up quickly.   The front straight [distance between 13(hairpin) and
 1] is probably <1/8 mile.  Yeh, that's about right cause I'm coming out of
13 in second, shift into third, hit about 100+, but start braking for 1
before I hit redline.

Perhaps the difference is that I burn Sunoco 94 and use a liberal amount of
Octane booster.  As I found out the cause of the orangeish/redish color of
my plugs.

Be of good cheer

>
>Thanks in advance,
>
>Ahmed "AL-Crazy" - '92 VR4

- --
    JCZoooM  '93 Stealth TT Blue    almost stock    12.46 @109 MPH
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Date: Mon, 9 Aug 1999 08:15:29 -0400
From: "Kevin Schappell" <kevin@pacarsearch.com>
Subject: RE: Team3S: Aftermarket hoods and whatnot

Carlos,

Could not get the front opening large enuff to feed the intake.  I want a
totally sealed system, but to do that I will need a pretty large duct.  I am
going to search the salvage yards for a hood that I can butcher.  Some NACA
ducts and maybe a low rise cowl induction scoop in the middle.


Kevin Schappell
Auto Answers
Pennsylvania's newest and hottest automotive classifieds site.
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- -----Original Message-----
From: owner-stealth-3000gt@list.sirius.com
[mailto:owner-stealth-3000gt@list.sirius.com]On Behalf Of Carlos Q
Sent: Monday, August 09, 1999 2:58 AM
To: stealth@dragnet.com; Team3s list; stealth@starnet.net
Subject: Team3S: Aftermarket hoods and whatnot


Since I saw the posts from the guys at accelerated accessories about a
carbon fiber hood, I remembered: wasn't someone going to try and make a mold
for carbon fiber and fiberglass hoods that had a hood scoop (like that of a
viper gts) and vents at the strut covers? did this plan go anywhere? does
anyone have any information on this?

BTW, to the people at accelerated: that is a Beautiful hood! did you
actually have those made? Or were you just carrying someone elses hood? if
so, who makes it?

Wishing I had enough money to get that CF hood,
Carlos

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Date: Mon, 9 Aug 1999 09:19:58 -0400 (EDT)
From: ie886@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (John T. Christian)
Subject: Team3S: Re: Team 3S: "Track exhaust"

Hi all,

My track exhaust is in two pieces and just as long as the stock exhaust
system.  The downpipe is about 3' and the rest goes to the rear bumper.
The downpipe attaches directly to the front turbo and to the rear precat.
"Someone" must have removed the stuff in the rear precat. The primary is
about 2" and goes into a collector.  The rest is 3" with a Dynomax
(muffler??).  Some racing clubs/courses don't permit OPEN exhausts.
Unfortunately there is no flex coupling (YET), so I have to repair the
welds in the downpipe frequeltly.
  Does somone make a flex section similar to the stock downpipe????  I
don't want to cut and use the stock ones as I have to reinstall the stock
exhaust system to pass PA emission inspection every year.

The track exhaust is very light compared to the stock system.  As I recall
the downpipe was about 4 lbs and the rest was about 15lbs.  The stock
system is hanging in my garage and I'll weigh it after lunch and post.
  I've heard 100 pounds is worth .10 sec in the 1/4 mile.

The pownpipe has a high temp coating by JetHot which reportedly reduces
under hood temperatures.  When new it did look real neat.

SOUND    It really isn't TOO LOUD.  I drive it to and from the road courses
pulling my tire trailer and never been stopped.   Just have to avoid WOT.
  I also drive it to Church on Sundays......  Low mileage used sports car.

Be of good cheer

- --
 JCZoooM  '93 Stealth TT Blue    almost stock    12.46 @109 MPH 5/97
 currently  7/99  13G's  manual boost  K&N   track exhaust
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Date: Mon, 9 Aug 1999 09:27:21 EDT
From: TurboDrvn@aol.com
Subject: Re: Team3S: Re: Team 3S: "Track exhaust"

In a message dated 8/9/99 8:22:03 AM Central Daylight Time,
ie886@cleveland.Freenet.Edu writes:

<< Does somone make a flex section similar to the stock downpipe????  I
 don't want to cut and use the stock ones as I have to reinstall the stock
 exhaust system to pass PA emission inspection every year.
  >>

Hey John,

    Alamo has a Dowpipe with the Flex section for our cars.

Later,

Ahmed "AL-Crazy"
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Date: Mon, 09 Aug 1999 09:22:13 -0500
From: Merritt <merritt@cedar-rapids.net>
Subject: Re: Team3S: 3S List Endurance Race Project?

At 11:58 AM 8/9/99 -0500, xwing wrote:
>Endurance Racing Project!
>Hmm, maybe we should consider a small (or large) group effort for a 24 Hours
>of Nelson Ledges...would be good to have a few drivers and some
>crew/support...of course, what sort of car and all would depend on the
>rules specifics.

Yep. Here's one biggie: What kind of competition license do we all need?
It could be very expensive getting an SCCA pro license.
Here's another: What rules govern the car? If we need all that SCCA safety
stuff, it gets very expensive.


 .Will  have to
>find out what races are out there (12 hrs Sebring, whatever at Nelson)

The only two I can think of for our low-buck "Army of Darkness" team is
Nelson Ledges and the Loooooong Race at Blackhawk Farms (whatever that is
... it *sounds* like an enduro, though)

..I bet we could put together
>QUITE the
>group of mostly-ameteur Enthusiasts to make a minor go of a once-
>(if EVER)-in-a-lifetime "24 Hours of Someplace" race.

If everybody's stint lasts for a tank of gas, then each stint would be
about an hour.
If we have four drivers, that's six stints each.
Sounds workable to me.
If Jack donated the CRX to the cause, and three others each kicked in $800,
that would be a race/prep budget of $2400.  That should buy two sets of
tires, some spare parts like brake pads, entry fee, and...what else do we
need?.

Count me in.

Rich/old poop/94 VR4

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Date: Mon, 9 Aug 1999 16:45:48 +0200
From: "R.G." <robby@freesurf.ch>
Subject: Re: Team3S: Re: Team 3S: "Track exhaust"

Hey, wait before spending mucho $$$ for something you alread have !!

I've put a small flex section into the dp between the two turbo downlets to
prevent vibration from one to each other. I haven't found a 3" flex section
yet to prevent the vibration from final dp section.

Roger
93'3000GT TT

><< Does somone make a flex section similar to the stock downpipe????  I
> don't want to cut and use the stock ones as I have to reinstall the stock
> exhaust system to pass PA emission inspection every year.
>  >>
>
>Hey John,
>
>    Alamo has a Dowpipe with the Flex section for our cars.


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Date: Mon, 9 Aug 1999 17:10:26 +0200
From: "R.G." <robby@freesurf.ch>
Subject: Re: Team3S: Re: Team 3S: "Track exhaust"

>My track exhaust is in two pieces and just as long as the stock exhaust
>system.  The downpipe is about 3' and the rest goes to the rear bumper.
>The downpipe attaches directly to the front turbo and to the rear precat.
>"Someone" must have removed the stuff in the rear precat. The primary is
>about 2" and goes into a collector.  The rest is 3" with a Dynomax
>(muffler??).

Therefore the exhaust is single sided, isn't it ? It's a real exhaust what
you have but of course only for track useage as the cat is not there.

>I don't want to cut and use the stock ones as I have to reinstall the stock
>exhaust system to pass PA emission inspection every year.

When was the last test you have done ? With or without rear pre-cat ?

>The track exhaust is very light compared to the stock system.  As I recall
>the downpipe was about 4 lbs and the rest was about 15lbs.  The stock
>system is hanging in my garage and I'll weigh it after lunch and post.

Yes, any aftermarket exhaust without cat and flex sections is much lighter
compared to the stock stuff. An option for you would be to have an ATR
test-pipe and cat handy. Both will simply be bolt onto the 3" piping with
clamps. You can cut the piping somewhere after the joint where the dp ends.
The ATR stuff just slides over the piping. Replacement / changing can be
done pretty fast and you don't have to care about the air and the test with
a good high flow cat.

Roger
93'3000GT TT


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Date: Mon, 09 Aug 1999 14:26:05 -0400
From: dgkessler@netexp.com (Kessler, D.)
Subject: Team3S: Oil Line Leak

Has anyone experienced a leak in the oil line that attaches to the oil
filter assembly.  It appears very wet and quite rusted at the clamp
where the two oil filter lines are supported.  Any ideas?

Don
1993 R/T TT
3si # 152
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Date: Mon, 9 Aug 1999 12:38:56 -0600
From: "Palamara, Peter" <pala@gwl.com>
Subject: Team3S: copper head gaskets

Does anyone know of a good reputable place that sells or makes copper head
gaskets for our 3.0 liter's at a thickness of .60 instead of the usual .30 .
I only found one place on the internet and they were way overpriced! Thanx

92 3000 GTO S.C.
Soon to be exactly what the plates say :)
Plates (HIPRESR)
1-800-888-gwla x4733

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Date: Mon, 9 Aug 1999 21:35:20 +0200
From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Mikael_=C5kesson?= <vr4@bahnhof.se>
Subject: Re: Team3S: Re: Team 3S: "Track exhaust"

- ----- Original Message -----
From: R.G. <robby@freesurf.ch>
>I haven't found a 3" flex section yet to prevent the vibration from final dp section.

I can get 3" flex sections in any length you want. They are actually slightly larger than 3" so you can slide them over a 3" pipe. Let me know what length you want and I'll get back to you with price.

/Mikael

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Date: Mon, 9 Aug 1999 16:00:33 -0400
From: "Wallis, Gavin" <WallisG@MWAA.com>
Subject: Team3S: Brakes

Can someone briefly remind me of the run down on rotors. Powerslots crack
under auto-x, Roger had some bremsa's that he seemed pretty happy with, btw-
roger the link seems to be dead for the bremsas on your page..double btw-
price Roger? Power stops = ? And any others....

I'm going to replace my stock rotors very soon because they are warped, old,
and rusted to hell and back. However since i've got about $5000 mods planned
for this shop visit, i'm trying not to break the bank.

Thanks,
Gavin

'94 Black VR-4
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Date: Mon, 9 Aug 1999 14:40:14 -0600
From: "Palamara, Peter" <pala@gwl.com>
Subject: Team3S: RE: copper head gaskets

I should put also even if someone knows of a place that even makes copper
head gaskets for 3.o's . I wasn't very clear on the question sorry.

92 3000 GTO S.C.
Soon to be exactly what the plates say :)
Plates (HIPRESR)
1-800-888-gwla x4733


- -----Original Message-----
From: Palamara, Peter
Sent: Monday, August 09, 1999 2:22 PM
To: codsm@salmi.dynip.com
Subject: copper head gaskets


Does anyone know of a good reputable place that sells or makes copper head
gaskets for our 3.0 liter's at a thickness of .60 instead of the usual .30 .
I only found one place on the internet and they were way overpriced! Thanx


92 3000 GTO S.C.
Soon to be exactly what the plates say :)
Plates (HIPRESR)
1-800-888-gwla x4733

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Date: Tue, 10 Aug 1999 13:24:26 +0200
From: "R.G." <robby@swissonline.ch>
Subject: Team3S: VPC for sale (3S cars)

Ok, since my upgrade path changed slightly I'm selling the following :

HKS VPC with :
- - 91-93 3000GT/Stealth harness (must be changed for 94+)
- - 4 Programs (all for 720cc Denso injectors, yellow top)
  1) VPC-W80 (720cc)
  2) W80 +10%
  3) W80 +20%
  4) W80 +30%
- - boost sensor (special 3bar sensor, better resolution then Denso)
- - plenum temp sensor
- - GCC I (5 potis, same look/size as VPC, brandnew in box)

Some smaller parts I do not have are:
- - Barb T fitting
- - Tee fitting
- - clamps for hoses
- - NPT adapter for air temp sensor
(I can get them in the local shops if you want)

To make the VPC work on 94+ cars "only" the harness must be changed as the ECU
connectors are different. Nothing else have to be made but don't ask me more
about this (I just don't know).

I'm also able to get you a 550cc program for free if necessary but no further
modifications are possible. Also a DSM EPROM is possible but you'll have to get
a another harness from HKS.

Please note that each individual program was about $90 as well as the special
MAP sensor is another $100 (my own R-TEC upgrade). Therefore, the price I paid
for everything about a year ago was about $1480 (already a special price)

As it was test-installed once I'll let everything go for $990 (sniff)
- --------------------------------------------------------------------

I think this is a fair price as I don't want to make money out of the stuff.

I myself have verified that the stuff works and it looks almost new (the GCC is
new). Please also note that shipping should be paid (about $30) by you and
therefore a friend in Europe will mostly benefit of this (the VPC costs $1850
here, if availale) My local customers do not go over any boost
controller/exhaust mods.

I also have a Blitz SUS Power Filter. This is a metallic mesh filter without any
element. It's a piece of art, big and I also got a round adapter that fits the
rubber intake part after the MAS. The adapter is plain aluminum and would look
better polished or so. I would have to create another adapter as it interfers
with the water injection pump I just installed and I have currently no use for
it (it doesn't fit the stock MAS)

I'm asking $280 for the Blitz SUS including custom made adapter.
- ---------------------------------------------------------------

I'd drop the price another $50 if both are taken together.

For payment I do accept checks but would prefer wired money. I do also have an
account for my shares in the States but this costs me $20 per money transfer. If
you're in so.cal. we also can figure out direct payment to my friends and I ship
them the package. Null problemo.

If you have further questions, please send me any emails privately. I can also
take some digi-pics of the parts you'll get. Please also note that I send this
message to the DSM parts trader, the 3S message board and the Starnet list
(should I really ?) and add it for a $50 higher price.

To be honest, I already made a big loss (some of you remember) and I cannot go
lower. Therefore, please only reply if you accept the pricing.

Happy modding
Roger, Switzerland
93'3000GT TT
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