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Team3S
Digest Tuesday, July 27
1999 Volume 01 : Number
241
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Date:
Mon, 26 Jul 1999 15:54:02 +0200
From: "R.G." <robby@freesurf.ch>
Subject: Team3S:
ERL Water Injection installed
No, I do not have any results yet as some
otherparts need to be done at
first. Also the rubber "gromet" at the y-pipe
is totally worn and you know
the thing can only be bought together with a new
plastic crap thing :( Time
to get a better y-pipe soon !
The
installation took a long time as I had to remove the whole front
plastic
parts to get to the water tank. Installing the thing back was not
easy and
sometimes I just wished to be an alien with 4 very slim arms and 22
fingers
:) Anyway everything is back in place and as usual 2 screws are left
over
and I'm sure I can reuse them anywhere else.
As I started the
pump the first time I was shocked how loud it was. Well it
became less
noisier as the water sucked in acts as a noise dampener as well
as the
pumping frequency changed due to priming everything. As the pump is
mounted
onto the inner fender well the whole thing acts like a resonator
and
distributes the noise as well :( But with a running engine over 2k it's
not
much noticeable again.
One of the most complicated things was to
get the wiring harness for the MF2
controller (ERL System 2s) through
the firewall. There is a rubber gromet
behind the battery but I already had a
large power cord installed there.
Also the D-Sub connector is already
attached and therefore the harness must
go into the engine compartment from
the passengers side. If anyone has ever
done this you know why I wnated to
have very thin hands and loooong fingers.
But I did something very clever
(besides of cutting one wire too short) and
used a hard power cord and spiral
wrap to draw the harness into the engine
bay. The MF2 controller is placed
onto the underside plastic cover at the
passengers side besides of the fan
controller. I used a velcro tape as I
don't wanted to drill any holes in the
cover. For adjustings, the cover can
simply be removed by unbolting three
screws and removing the case cover of
the MF2.
The system worked
immediatly although I haven't installed a sensing device
(boost switch, boost
sensor or TPS) yet. The pump stops immediatly when
pressure is built up and
therefore only draws some power when delivering
water (of course) I then made
some spray-tests and I was surpised how much
water was sprayed into a towel
in a fine mist. Looks good :)
The next step will be to tune in the
system. This will not be easy as there
are some parameters to consider to
create a good 3D map. As the water
pressure is available within a very short
time at the jets I do not need to
start on early boost but, of course this
depends on the boost climbing rate
then. And the less the exhaust is
restricted the faster the turbos spool up.
Also the BC settings play a rule
then.
With the help of the Datalogger I will be able to record
differences when
changing the amount of water injected. Unfortunately, boost
cannot be
recorded and I have to log this with my hardware data logging tool.
Not easy
as I need another PC in my car (besides 2 or 3 temperature
measuring
instruments). I just hope to find out the cable jungle in my car
;-)
First conclusion : The installation was straight forward and easy. I
used a
lot more time as expected as I had to remove the whole front. Getting
it
back on used somewhat longer. the system works immediatly and only
the
electrical connection for the System 2 is not that easy. You just have
to
make sure that you know what sensor you'll have and where you gonna
install
it.
Stay tuned for more inforamtion next weekend (mucho
business this week) and
hopefully a first datalog with
results.
Reards,
Roger
93'3000GT TT
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Date:
Mon, 26 Jul 1999 10:05:43 -0400
From: "J. Stephen Gula" <loco3kgt@widomaker.com>
Subject:
Team3S: Racing Seats
Hey guys,
I'm in the mood to
put in a racing seat and a four point harness. I
was wondering if there's
anything special I have to do about
installation of the harness. I've heard
it's gotta be attach to a
rollbar or something that's _firmly_ attached to
the car. I've also seen
where it should be mounted 4" behind a little below
the shoulders. So,
any advice?
- --Steve "Loco3KGT" Gula
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Date:
Mon, 26 Jul 1999 11:58:44 -0700
From: "Bob Forrest" <bf@bobforrest.com>
Subject: Team3S:
eRAM Electric Supercharger Dyno Test in Bay Area...
Hey,
guys,
I'll be doing a test install of the eRAM and/or Super eRAM on my
Stealth NT
tomorrow at Frey Racing in Mountainview, CA. We'll be doing
before/after
dyno tests to verify the 'real world' effectiveness of the units
in one of
our cars. The install will be supervised by the designer of
the unit, Mark
Kibort of eRACING, out of San Jose. He has done other
dyno tests, notably
on a Porsche 911, and claims 4% - 6% HP gains for the
standard unit, (which
they have already achieved), and hope to double those
figures for the Super
eRAM (but it hasn't happened yet).
I'll be
removing the stock intake 'hose', (I don't want to trash it), and
creating a
custom one to accommodate the Super eRAM, which is an almost-4"
cylinder,
about 13" long... I'll probably have to move the MAS and also
move my
K&N FIPK (or replace it with a smaller cone K&N) just to get it
to
fit.
If these units work out, eRACING has offered Team3S members a
standard
discount of 10-15%, and a group discount of 25%, which would bring
the unit
costs to $225 for the eRAM and $440 for the Super eRAM. You
can see their
website at www.electricsupercharger.com
.
If any of you have suggestions, (or if you are local and would like to
join
me), please get in touch...
TIA,
Forrest
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Date:
Mon, 26 Jul 1999 08:35 -0500
From: Jeff A Williamson <Jeff.A.Williamson@jci.com>
Subject:
Team3S: Power Steering Fluid
The repair manual for my '92 VR4 said to use
DEXRON II transmission fluid for
the power steering. I bought some and when
I got it home, realized that I had
bought DEXRON III. Can this be used? What
difference does it make?
Jeff Williamson
Belleville, MI
'92
VR4
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Date:
Mon, 26 Jul 1999 15:57:12 -0600
From: "Jeffrey Young" <jefyoung@ix.netcom.com>
Subject:
Team3S: Y-pipe
I am having problems with my GT-Alley Y-pipe popping off
of the
throttlebody. I am using t-bolt clamps, but the problem is in
the design of
the y-pipe. There isn't enough space between the boost
controller fitting
and the edge of the y-pipe to get a good clamp.
I
would like to move the boost controller fitting farther down the y-pipe,
but
I'm not sure if this would affect or reduce the amount of
pressure
being supplied to the BC. I would like to move the
fitting so it is just
above the BOV connection. Any comments
would be welcomed.
Jeffrey
92 Dodge Stealth RT/Turbo
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Date:
Tue, 27 Jul 1999 00:18:55 +0200
From: "R.G." <robby@freesurf.ch>
Subject: Re:
Team3S: eRAM Electric Supercharger Dyno Test in Bay Area...
I'm very
positive that you'll find about 12-15hp in the ragion above 3k
rpm.
Unfortunately, the Sper eRam is not able to double this figure (from
the
pysical view) but it should deliver about 1.5 to 1.6 times the power of
the
normal eRAM.
Just make sure the thing does not blow any air when
the throttle is closed
:)
>I'll be removing the stock intake
'hose', (I don't want to trash it), and
>creating a custom one to
accommodate the Super eRAM, which is an almost-4"
>cylinder, about 13"
long... I'll probably have to move the MAS and also
>move my K&N
FIPK (or replace it with a smaller cone K&N) just to get it
to
>fit.
Why not placing a large cone filter into the room
behind the bumper where
one of our intercooler sits ? Then route the tubing
to a place where the MAS
or the eRAM sits. There is plenty of room where I
had the idea of a single
turbo to be placed and I think both types will fit
without problems. From
there a tube can go up to the MAS turned 90° facing to
the front. This will
then add you not only an eRAM but also a cold air intake
:)
Looking forward,
Roger
93'3000GT TT
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Date:
Mon, 26 Jul 1999 17:27:43 -0500
From: "Grant McFarlane (EUS)" <EUSGTME@am1.ericsson.se>
Subject:
Team3S: clutch thud
OK .... my '93 VR-4 has got that thud noise when you
engage 1st gear. The
car will actually move a couple of inches when engaging
it !! I think I saw
something a little while back about an adjustment that
could be made to the
clutch pedal (from Bill Wagner ???). Could somebody post
exactly how this
adjustment is done. My clutch starts to bite at only an inch
or two off the
floor!!!
Much appreciated,
Grant.
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Date:
Mon, 26 Jul 1999 16:03:54 -0700
From: "Gross, Erik" <erik.gross@intel.com>
Subject: RE:
Team3S: eRAM Electric Supercharger Dyno Test in Bay Area...
Thanks for
checking this out for us, Bob! If it works pretty well, maybe
you could
tell the rest of us about the custom intake tubing you're going to
use to
replace the $100 intake "hose" (yeah, that's right $100 for a
stinking piece
of plastic at the dealer). I don't want to play cut-n-paste
with mine,
either:)
> -----Original Message-----
> From: R.G. [mailto:robby@freesurf.ch]
> Why not
placing a large cone filter into the room behind the
> bumper where one
of our intercooler sits? Then route the
> tubing to a place where the MAS
<snip>
I can see it now... mandrel-bent dryer tubing!
;)
Awaiting the results...
- --Erik
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Erik
Gross
DuPont, WA
'95 Pearl White 3000GT (base,
DOHC)
57,000 mi
Firestone Firehawk 245/50/ZR16 tires, stock wheels
Magnacor KV85
spark plug wires, NGK plugs @ 0.040"
K&N FIPK (57-1500), resonator
intact
Mobil 1 10W30 Synthetic w/ OEM oil filter
Occasionally ticking lash
adjusters, working on solution
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"For we are so little reconciled to time that we are
even
astonished at it ... we exclaim, 'How time flies!' as
though
the universal form of our experience were again and again
a
novelty. It is as strange as if a fish were repeatedly
surprised at the wetness of water. And that would
be
strange indeed, unless of course the fish were destined
to
become, one day, a land
animal."
--C. S. Lewis, Reflections on the Psalms
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Date:
Mon, 26 Jul 1999 17:09:03 -0700
From: "Bob Forrest" <bf@bobforrest.com>
Subject: Re:
Team3S: eRAM Electric Supercharger Dyno Test in Bay Area...
-
-----Original Message-----From: R.G. <robby@freesurf.ch>
|>I'll be
removing the stock intake 'hose', (I don't want to trash it),
and
|>creating a custom one to accommodate the Super eRAM, which is an
almost-4"
|>cylinder, about 13" long... I'll probably have to move
the MAS and also
|>move my K&N FIPK (or replace it with a smaller cone
K&N) just to get it to
|>fit.
|
|Why not placing a large cone
filter into the room behind the bumper where
|one of our intercooler sits ?
Then route the tubing to a place where the
MAS
|or the eRAM sits. There is
plenty of room where I had the idea of a single
|turbo to be placed and I
think both types will fit without problems. From
|there a tube can go up to
the MAS turned 90° facing to the front. This will
|then add you not only an
eRAM but also a cold air intake :)
I like it... If I put the
FIPK down near the fog lights, I can move the MAS
lower on the fender
wall, possibly even putting it in a straight line
instead of using an
elbow on the intake... If we can straighten the intake,
maybe we can
get by with a smaller filter than the FIPK... We'll check it
out and
give it a shot!
Thanks!
Forrest
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Date:
Tue, 27 Jul 1999 16:06:11 +0200
From: lehir@genesiscom.ch (Genesiscon
Lehir)
Subject: Team3S: Europe Japanese Twin Turbo
Club
Hi,
With several friends, we're thinking about creating
a
"European Japanese Twin Turbo Club".(or something like that)
This club
will be based on the existing Z32 Twin Turbo Club (300ZXTT),
and will be open
to all Japanese Twin Turbo Cars (Toyota, Nissan, Mazda,
Mitsubishi/Stealth).
If you're interested, please let me
know.
It's likely we'll have our first event in
Spetember
Henri
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