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Date:
Wed, 21 Jul 1999 16:41:13 -0400 (EDT)
From: "Dennis G. Bretton " <dbretton@cs.uml.edu>
Subject:
Team3S: Eibach Springs for sale -$199
Hello all,
I
have a set of Eibach port strings for sale. They will fit any
N/A
3000GT/Stealth. Never been opened, still in the box.
Normal
retail is ~$255->300.
Will sell for $199, including shipping (in the
US).
Contact me @ this email PRIVATELY. Responses posted
to the list will be
ignored.
dbretton@cs.uml.edu
Check out
Eibach @ http://www.eibach.com
Thank
you for your time.
Regards,
Dennis
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Date:
Wed, 21 Jul 1999 16:48:45 EDT
From: Dskull@aol.com
Subject: Team3S: How Low can
you go ????
FWIW I had my GC setup down around 2.5" below stock. With the
active aero on
the distance from the bottom of the front aero dam to the
ground was around
1.75". And more importantly you WILL bottom out on the
shocks. I had only 1/2
of the bump stops left and you could see that the
shock piston max. travel
was VERY short.
Even with my 650 lb front spring
rates the shocks did bottom out. Luckily I
did not damage the pistons.
Dave Skultety 93 VR4
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Date:
Wed, 21 Jul 1999 13:50:45 -0700
From: Morgan Holly <morgan@popstudios.com>
Subject:
Re: Team3S: extended warranty? I think not.
I had the 72 month 100K
warranty. The car is a 92. 72 months lapse in 8
days. I should get a big pot
of coffee and drive it around till the tranny
breaks ;)
At 3:25 PM
-0500 7/21/99, Merritt wrote:
>>>Quick! Buy an extended warranty!
It's your last chance to get one through
>>>the
dealer.
>>>
>>>Rich/old
poop
>>
>>Thats a joke right? My extended "warranty" just
lapsed.
>
>At 30,000 miles? You must mean the original factory
warranty.
>I bought a used 94 with 60,000. The extended warranty was 36
months/36,000
>miles for $1700. So far it's paid for itself with a new
tranny, and I'm
>protected for two more years.
>
>Rich/old
poop/safe and secure
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Date:
Wed, 21 Jul 1999 16:00:53 -0500 (EST)
From: Dennis Moore <stealth@kiva.net>
Subject: Re: Team3S:
Buying a 92 DS RT/TT
As someone else has mentioned already, any GL-5
fluid is UNACCEPTABLE. I
don't have the TSB number handy, but Mitsu has
warned against using GL-5
in their vehicles. This includes TT and
N/A.
Dennis Moore
stealth@kiva.net
Yes, I'm afraid you
*did* go to college for this job.
On Wed, 21 Jul 1999, Robert Jerome
Mengler wrote:
> Say, does anyone know if it is it OK to use the
Mobil 1 synthetic
> in my 3000gt SL (I know it is a different
transmission than the
> VR 4 turbo)?? I am sure the shop manual
won't talk about synthetic oils.
> I was thinking of switching to a
synthetic and I use Mobil 1 in my turbo
> Regal (I haven't had to have any
transmission work on it but it is also
> an automatic).
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Mobil 1 synthetic is a
GL-5 rated fluid and will cause problems with our
> synchros (I think it
was mentioned in the past to be corrosive to the
> coating on
> the
synchros). Definately use a GL-4 fluid in the TT tranny.
>
>
>
>
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Date:
Wed, 21 Jul 1999 17:03:43 EDT
From: Dskull@aol.com
Subject: Team3S: Road Course
Update - Part 4
Went to the "long" track event at Pocono July
10&11th. On day two you use ALL
of the NASCAR front straight, ALL of
turn 1 and 2 onto the long pond
straight, and into the tunnel turn, then
into the north course infield. 140
on front straight, tap brakes down to 115
into turn 1. Hold 115 through turn
and get back into it. Up to 150 just
prior to tunnel turn, then HARD on
brakes into a hairpin left hander. 150
not good enough so I increased speed
into turn 1 at 5mph increments. 120 not
bad, 125 feeling a little daring. 130
started to get loose in middle of
turn, so stopped trying to get past 125.
This resulted in JUST touching 160
in back straight. I am at 130 at the apex
coming of of the turn in 4th. It
takes a LONG time to get from 130 to 160.
Brake system held up great as
there is quite a bit of cool down time
especially when you don't use the
brakes going into turn 1. Total length of
track is 2.5 miles. During the
last session of the day developed a high speed
backfire on the back straight
so I decided to call it a day, loaded up the
car on the trailer and drove
home. A few days later I was changing the
G-Force's over to my street tires.
Took off the left front and had a 6" strip
of canvas showing on the inside.
Yikes says I. If not for the backfire
starting up I would have stayed out
and probably would have visited the nice
little concrete wall in turn 1.
Dave Skultety - 93 VR4
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Date:
Wed, 21 Jul 1999 22:50:28 +0200
From: "R.G." <robby@freesurf.ch>
Subject: Re:
Team3S: extended warranty? (Admin message)
Please keep this topic
off-list !
Thanks,
Roger (for the Admins)
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Date:
Wed, 21 Jul 1999 22:56:32 +0200
From: "R.G." <robby@freesurf.ch>
Subject: Re:
Team3S: APEXi AVC-R Group price (fwd)
$450 is a good price for a new
product. The current S-AVC-R can be get for
$420 and the "Indiglo" is
definitely the newer one. If you need an EBC, or
want to replace your old
EVC, it's a good choice. But as said ... where do
you mount this thing
???
Later
Roger
93'3000GT TT
PS: Thanks Dennis for
forwarding !
- -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht-----
Von: Dennis G.
Bretton <dbretton@cs.uml.edu>
An: TEAM 3S
List <stealth-3000gt@list.sirius.com>
Datum:
Mittwoch, 21. Juli 1999 22:27
Betreff: Team3S: APEXi AVC-R Group price
(fwd)
>
>Hello folks,
>
> Mark just
sent this one out to help clarify things some more.
>
>Again, I am
just a messenger, so don't ask me anything, as I don't know
>anything.
:)
<snip>
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Date:
Wed, 21 Jul 1999 16:18:07 -0500
From: Merritt <merritt@cedar-rapids.net>
Subject:
Re: Team3S: Road Course Update - Part 4
A A few days later I was changing
the
>G-Force's over to my street tires. Took off the left front and had a
6"
strip
>of canvas showing on the inside. Yikes says I. If not for
the backfire
>starting up I would have stayed out and probably would have
visited the nice
>little concrete wall in turn 1.
Why the INSIDE
of the left front? My two Michelin XGTs are worn down to
the steel
belts (I can see the air inside the tire) on the insides of
both
fronts. The rest of the tires are bald, down past the wear bars
from
running open track events and an autocross. Why would we be wearing on
the
insides?
Rich/old poop/94 VR4
>
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Date:
Wed, 21 Jul 1999 20:19:16 -0700
From: "Jim Berry" <fastmax@home.com>
Subject: Team3S:
Tires -- yokohama nexus/A032
Anybody with experience on the Yokohama
Nexus or the A032. I know a few people
have made comments on how empressive
the A032's are. The wear seems to be a
tad on the low side. The Nexus has
double the wear rate and still has the large block
pattern that should help
in handling and chunking. Tire Rack doesn't show a 255/40/17
but Yokohama's
web page says they have them.
Any comments on either
tire!!!!!
Jim Berry
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Date:
Wed, 21 Jul 1999 20:50:09 -0700
From: "Barry E. King" <beking@home.com>
Subject: RE: Team3S:
APEXi AVC-R Group price (fwd)
This is all well and good, but one word of
caution from a bad group purchase
experience.
One shop dealer who
handled a Ground Control group purchase stiffed me and
Ground Control for
several hundred dollars, possibly more for GC.
Before anyone orders
anything I urge you to find out who exactly will be
handling the money and
that all transactions are handled in a legally
recorded manner. Make
sure you have all contact information and reputable
references for the dealer
and anyone else involved in the transaction.
Handling a blown deal across
state lines gets sticky and costly.
I am NOT suggesting the Apex'i GP is
tainted in any way. This is merely a
heads up. GPs go on
successfully to everyone's benefit. It's good to see.
It only takes one
or two though to make a good thing bad as we all know
(kind of why this list
got started in the first place as you will recall).
As to the
effectiveness of the new offerings from Apex'i, they look great.
I am
especially encouraged by the new Revolution series Super AFC. They
have
done it right by the looks of it by calibrating for both airflow
and
RPM. If these units being offered at $450 are for the new models
then I'd
say that's a decent deal if they work as well as they should based
on the
paper specifications.
They are cool enough looking to forgo the
stock stereo mounting location
don't you think? ;)
I have both
an S-AFC and an S-AVCR (old models) and they are of top quality
and work
exactly as advertised.
Regards,
Barry
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Date:
Wed, 21 Jul 1999 23:21:41 -0500
From: "Matt Jannusch" <mattj@fallon.com>
Subject: RE: Team3S:
Buying a 92 DS RT/TT
> As someone else has mentioned already, any GL-5
fluid is UNACCEPTABLE. I
> don't have the TSB number handy, but
Mitsu has warned against using GL-5
> in their vehicles. This
includes TT and N/A.
I just ordered 3 quarts of BG Synchroshift from
Extreme Motorsports today.
Thanks for the warning. The Mobil 1 has been
in there for a long time by
the previous owner, but the tranny still shifts
like butter. Hopefully no
damage has been done.
- -Matt
'95
3000GT Spyder VR4
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Date:
Thu, 22 Jul 1999 01:37:59 -0400 (EDT)
From: George Kuo <amkreadgto@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re:
Team3S: Tires -- yokohama nexus/A032
I have experience with Advan A032
245/45/17s. This was the only race
tire I've used, I usually run with used
MXX3s that I pick up from
used-tire places. (I can't afford replacing tires
after every event!!)
I liked the MXX3 the best (on the track) compare to
other street tires.
But the MXX3 can not compare to the
performance/stickyness of the
A032s. I literally took of seconds off my lap
time! From constant 1:41s
to 1:37s (<-- with A032)!!
I had no
problems with chunking. The A032s lasted me about 3 weekends,
but less if you
insist on tons of lap time. I definately recommend
trying them out! I would
like to hear feedbacks on 3S owners who tried
the Comp T/A R1s. These are the
most used on the track. I wonder how
they hold up to our 2 ton
whale.
George
LA, Kali
- --- Jim Berry <fastmax@home.com> wrote:
> Anybody
with experience on the Yokohama Nexus or the
> A032. I know a few people
> have made comments on how empressive the A032's are.
> The wear
seems to be a
> tad on the low side. The Nexus has double the wear
>
rate and still has the large block
> pattern that should help in handling
and chunking.
> Tire Rack doesn't show a 255/40/17
> but Yokohama's
web page says they have them.
> Any comments on either
tire!!!!!
>
>
> Jim Berry
>
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Date:
Thu, 22 Jul 1999 01:17:19 -0700
From: David Chen <neubine@ix.netcom.com>
Subject:
Re: Team3S: Rim question
Hey R.G.
I paid about
$3000 for all three.... however these were at a special price.
normaly they
go for about $700 a piece.
BTW My friends call me the banana boat rocket
=)
Neubine@ix.netcom.com
"R.G."
wrote:
> VERY COOL, nice, hot, great !
>
> I really love
these wheels and your car looks Banana-cool. How much did you
> paid for
the set without the rubber ?
>
> Thanks,
> Roger
>
93'3000GT TT
>
> >> Dave, do you have any pic of the rims and
eventually on the car ?
> >>
> >> Thanks,
>
>> Roger
> >> 93'3000GT TT
> >>
> >>
> I personally got 18 x 9.0 all around. I've got the Blitz Techno Z1
and
> the
> >> reason is
> >> >that it's
perfectly wide and making them all the same width makes it
> easy
>
>> to rotate
> >> >tires. Also stock has them all the same
so it might be advisable to
> follow
> >> what the
>
>> >factory has. Also 18 x 10 in the rear is gonna stick out of the
fenders
> a
> >> little and
> >> >definatly
stick out alot in the front. You don't want to look like a low
> >>
rider do ya. =)
> >
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Date:
Thu, 22 Jul 1999 06:59:52 EDT
From: Dskull@aol.com
Subject: Team3S: Life and
Times of Yoko's and G-force tires
I have had quite a few track events
using both the Yoko A032's and the new
G-Force tires. Last year I used the
Yoko's for about 8 track days. Compared
to the stock tires they were
excellent. Wear was pretty reasonable. Had to
replace the left front late in
the season, just pushing the car too hard in
certain right handers. This
year I have been on the new G-force 255/45/17's.
They are quite a step up
from the Yoko's in overall grip especially in turn
in response. Wear is
approx. triple the Yoko's. After about 5 track days I
went back to to Yoko's
for one track day and felt like I was back on street
tires :( At this
time I have used the G-forces for 10 track days and have
corded one tire and
the rest are close. Remember due to the weight of these
cars tires and
brakes are HIGH wear items. In addition I think I got a little
more life out
of the G-Forces now that I am not just power sliding through
half of the
turns. I am now a lot smoother through the track so I am
scrubbing off less
of the tires. On the other hand I am quite a bit faster
this year clicking
off 2min 28 sec at Watkins Glen which is around 82 mph
avg. for the 3.45
mile course which has some fairly high speed turns.
Dave Skultety - 93
VR4 - Wishing I could skip all this and go straight to F1
driving :)
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Date:
Thu, 22 Jul 1999 09:20:03 EDT
From: TurboDrvn@aol.com
Subject: Team3S:
Midwest Gathering and Installation of Super AFC?
Hi all,
I was
curious to know if anyone would be interested in helping me
install the New
Apex'i Super AFC (LCD/ indiglo) into my '92 VR4 this Friday
night at Norwalk
Raceway?
I may not have a chance to check my email again before I take
off for Ohio
early tomorrow morning; so please go ahead and reply to this
message as well
as try to meet with me at Norwalk this Friday! I
will be reachable at the
following #'s:
(312) 51-HYPER (that's
312-514-9737)
(708) 638-5231 Mobile phone # with voice mail (once you
leave a message it
will page me)
Thank you! Looking forward to
meeting those of you attending the Midwest
Gathering!
Ahmed
"AL-Crazy"
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Date:
Thu, 22 Jul 1999 08:25:06 +0100
From: "Robert Jerome Mengler" <RMENGLER@statoil.com>
Subject:
Team3S: Back to Basics: Newbie Wants to Know What All These Terms Mean
Anyway?
Guys (and gals if there are any):
I assume this is a
pertinent topic for everybody on the list but from
following it
this past week I can see that all of you already know the
answers to the
questions on terminology I have. However, there may be
some new
people like myself and I didn't see a FAQ on this on your
website:
1.) Can we put some of the common terms in a FAQ on the
website?
2.) What do some of the following terms mean and would anyone
care to add
some abbreviations that I've missed?
TT:
Twin Turbo (I got this one)
N/A
:
Non-Automatic??????
NT:
Non-Turbo?
S/3ks: Stealth/3000's for
Dodge Stealths or Mitsubishi
3000gt's
3/S:
same thing as previous: 3000gt's and Dodge Stealths
DSM:
OBDI and
OBDII:
AFAIK:
DSBC:
AWD: All Wheel Drive/4-wheel
drive
Thank you for your help and patience for us new
guys. I am sure
eventually I will figure these terms out
but do we want to leave it up to
new guys to come up to speed on their own or
give them a little turbo boost
when they join with maybe a faq or
two? Just some thoughts.
Bob
94 3000gt SL
..............Don't want to modify, just want
to enjoy my
SL..................
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Date:
Thu, 22 Jul 1999 08:50:18 CDT
From: "Curt Gendron" <curt_gendron@hotmail.com>
Subject:
Team3S: Minnesota gathering
Hey Everyone,
I just wanted to give
one final update to everyone about the Lake Minnetonka
gathering up here in
Minnesota on Saturday the 24th. We now have 15 cars
signed up to
attend. The gathering is at a members house on a BIG lake.
There
will be boating, fishing, cooking, eating, mod installations, and a
lot of
car talk. :)
For Minnesota 3/S, this will be our biggest gathering
yet. Check out:
http://www.mn3s.org/events.html for
more details.
later,
Curt G,
95 R/T TT
and author of Minnesota
3/S at: http://www.mn3s.org
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Date:
Thu, 22 Jul 1999 08:40:34 -0500
From: Merritt <merritt@cedar-rapids.net>
Subject:
Re: Team3S: Life and Times of Yoko's and G-force tires
At 06:59 AM
7/22/99 EDT, Dskull@aol.com wrote:
>I
have had quite a few track events using both the Yoko A032's and the new
>G-Force tires. Last year I used the Yoko's for about 8 track days.
Compared
>to the stock tires they were excellent. Wear was pretty
reasonable. Had to
>replace the left front late in the season, just
pushing the car too hard in
>certain right handers.
Don't you
rotate them around from corner to corner?
>This year I have been on
the new G-force 255/45/17's.
>They are quite a step up from the Yoko's in
overall grip especially in turn
>in response. Wear is approx. triple the
Yoko's.
Did you buy full depth G-forces or shaved?
What's the
difference in price between the G and the Yokos?
One last question: Are
the Yokos directional? They seem to have a tread
pattern that appears to be
directional.
Rich/old poop/94 VR4/getting stickier this
year
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Date:
Thu, 22 Jul 1999 08:31:48 -0500
From: Merritt <merritt@cedar-rapids.net>
Subject:
Re: Team3S: Tires -- yokohama nexus/A032
At 01:37 AM 7/22/99 -0400,
George Kuo wrote:
>I have experience with Advan A032 245/45/17s.
I just received my set of 032Rs. I'm waiting to obtain another set
of
wheels before putting them on.
What's all this about heat cycling the
tires?
What do I gotta do?
Rich/old poop/94 VR4/about to get
sticky
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Date:
Thu, 22 Jul 1999 10:24:08 EDT
From: LotoBoost@aol.com
Subject: Team3S: APEXi
AVC-R Group price and SUPER AFC
All,
If anyone
is interested, I've decided to honor all of the Group Purchases
prices that
come along here on the Starnet and 3000GT/Stealth mailing lists..
So
if anyone see's any cool group purchases, but would like to buy their
parts
through a shop that specializes in the Stealth/3000GT give us a call!
We also offer free tech. help over the phone for our Stealth/3000GT
customers
when they install their new parts.. (We have plently of Super
AFC's instock,
and will be getting the first shippment of new
AVC-R's).
On another note, we are coming out with a new Front Mount
Intercooler
modification! It will consist of 2" and 3" mandrel bent
aluminum pipes that
run from the turbos to the throttle body (no y-pipe to
worry about anymore)
and a large intercooler core. I'm going to try to
have pictures up early
next week at www.AlteredAtmosphere.com.
Another
project I'm working on for our cars will be a set of headers/garret
turbos. I hope to have the kits available by the end of August, so
this will
be a new alternative to the 15 and 17G turbos..
I've also
had a few people ask me about making aluminum y-pipes. If there is
some interest out there (5-10 people) I'll go ahead and have them made up -
so e-mail me LotoBoost@aol.com if
your interested.
Lastly, I now have the Haltech Ignition and Fuel
computer on my 1994 Stealth
tt. Other than the lack of a knock sensor,
I'm really happy with the Haltech
and have fuel and ignition programs
available for the Stealth/3000GT if
anyone is interested. The Haltech
computers are not expensive (around $1,200
in parts) but do take a good
12-15 hours to install and this is NOT something
the average
do-it-yourselfer would probably want to try.. Once installed and
with
one of the programs, two or so hours of tuning on the road is usually
needed, or about 20hours on the road without the Stealth/3000GT
program.
TTYLater,
Mike
www.AlteredAtmosphere.com
1994
Stealth Twin Turbo
Best et: 11.4 Best mph:
122
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Date:
Thu, 22 Jul 1999 10:16:26 -0500
From: Merritt <merritt@cedar-rapids.net>
Subject:
Team3S: Slightly off topic
Does anyone have any information on the
automotive engineering program at
ESTACA (Ecole Superieure des Techniques
Aeronauticques et de Construction
Automobile) in Paris, France?
The
reason I ask is because I am trying to arrange the placing of a new
(2000)
graduate of ESTACA as a data acquisition and chassis specialist for
a
Trans-Am racing team next season. It is my understanding that ESTACA is
a
sophisticated racing school, it teaches chassis setup and data
acquisition
(among other stuff), and many F-1 crew chiefs have attended it.
Any truth
to all this? What's its rep?
I've been to some of the
websites, but je ne parle pas francais, mes amis.
If any of you can point me
to a good site in English, please do so.
Sorry if this is a little off
topic, but youse guys are the only racing
experts I know.
Rich/old
poop/94 VR4/goin' racin' wif the big boys
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Date:
Thu, 22 Jul 1999 08:30:41 -0700
From: Chris Winkley <cwinkley@plaza.ds.adp.com>
Subject:
RE: Team3S: Back to Basics: Newbie Wants to Know What All These T erms Mean
Anyway?
Robert...
Good question. Somewhere, in the archives, we
had developed a long list of
acronyms and their meaning. However, the concept
of posting it on the web is
a good one. I'll check with fellow Admin Bob and
see what we can do.
I believe I can answer most of yours, my responses
are in <> below.
Looking forward...Chris
- -----Original
Message-----
From: Robert Jerome Mengler [mailto:RMENGLER@statoil.com]
Sent:
Thursday, July 22, 1999 12:25 AM
To: stealth-3000gt@list.sirius.com
Subject:
Team3S: Back to Basics: Newbie Wants to Know What All These
Terms Mean
Anyway?
Guys (and gals if there are any):
I assume this is a
pertinent topic for everybody on the list but from
following it
this past week I can see that all of you already know the
answers to the
questions on terminology I have. However, there may be
some new
people like myself and I didn't see a FAQ on this on your
website:
1.) Can we put some of the common terms in a FAQ on the
website?
2.) What do some of the following terms mean and would anyone
care to add
some abbreviations that I've missed?
TT:
Twin Turbo (I got this one)
N/A
: Non-Automatic?????? <nope,
Normally Aspirated...Same as
Non
Turbo>
NT:
Non-Turbo? <you got it>
S/3ks:
Stealth/3000's for Dodge Stealths or Mitsubishi
3000gt's
3/S:
same thing as previous: 3000gt's and Dodge Stealths
DSM: <Diamond
Star/Mitsubishi...for the emblems on our hoods>
OBDI and OBDII:
<hmmm...it's for the emissions standards but I don't know
what the OBD
stands for>
AFAIK: <As Far As I Know>
DSBC: <Dual
Solenoid Boost Controller>
AWD: All Wheel Drive/4-wheel drive
<got it again>
Thank you for your help and patience for
us new guys. I am sure
eventually I will figure these terms
out but do we want to leave it up to
new guys to come up to speed on their
own or give them a little turbo boost
when they join with maybe a faq or
two? Just some thoughts.
Bob
94 3000gt SL
..............Don't want to modify, just want
to enjoy my
SL..................
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Date:
Thu, 22 Jul 1999 09:00:56 -0700
From: "Murat Okcuoglu" <murat@ashacorp.com>
Subject: Team3S:
Boost Gauges
VDO night vision is good, with the illuminated orange
needle.
VDO also have pillar pods as well as free standing mounts for the top
of the
steering column.
quality and accuracy is A1 and price is very
reasonable, $36 if I remeber
right.
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Date:
Thu, 22 Jul 1999 09:12:54 -0700
From: "Murat Okcuoglu" <murat@ashacorp.com>
Subject: Re:
Team3S: extended warranty? I think not.
Do not bet on your warranty
provider to honor the extended warranty. Most
independent extended warranty
companies went out of business or do not honor
expensive claims. The fine
print usually gives them some excuses to do so.
can you provide
receipts for regular servicing of the
tranny?)
- ----- Original Message
-----
From: Morgan Holly <morgan@popstudios.com>
To: <stealth-3000gt@list.sirius.com>
Sent:
Wednesday, July 21, 1999 1:50 PM
Subject: Re: Team3S: extended warranty? I
think not.
> I had the 72 month 100K warranty. The car is a 92. 72
months lapse in 8
> days. I should get a big pot of coffee and drive it
around till the tranny
> breaks ;)
>
>
> At 3:25 PM
-0500 7/21/99, Merritt wrote:
> >>>Quick! Buy an extended
warranty! It's your last chance to get one
through
> >>>the
dealer.
> >>>
> >>>Rich/old poop
>
>>
> >>Thats a joke right? My extended "warranty" just
lapsed.
> >
> >At 30,000 miles? You must mean the original
factory warranty.
> >I bought a used 94 with 60,000. The extended
warranty was 36
months/36,000
> >miles for $1700. So far it's paid
for itself with a new tranny, and I'm
> >protected for two more
years.
> >
> >Rich/old poop/safe and
secure
>
>
>
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Date:
Thu, 22 Jul 1999 11:18:46 -0500 (EST)
From: Dennis Moore <stealth@kiva.net>
Subject: RE: Team3S:
Back to Basics: Newbie Wants to Know What All These T erms Mean
Anyway?
Sorry, but I gotta quibble with one of your answers:
DSM -
Diamond Star Motors, which is what the plant manufacturing
the
Eclipse/Talon/Laser used to be called. It's commonly used to refer
to
those cars.
[Insert favorite nit-picking joke
here...]
Dennis Moore
stealth@kiva.net
Yes, I'm afraid you
*did* go to college for this job.
On Thu, 22 Jul 1999, Chris Winkley
wrote:
>
> DSM: <Diamond Star/Mitsubishi...for the emblems on
our hoods>
>
[snip]
>
> AWD: All Wheel
Drive/4-wheel drive <got it again>
>
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Date:
Thu, 22 Jul 1999 09:36:20 -0700
From: "Murat Okcuoglu" <murat@ashacorp.com>
Subject: Re:
Team3S: Back to Basics: Newbie Wants to Know What All These Terms Mean
Anyway?
OBDII
on board diagnostics 2nd generation , as ordered by
CARB, all 96 and later
cars must have elaborate diagnostic capabilities built
in to the ECU
(electronic control unit, engine computer)
the computer
would diagnose any intermittent or continuous malfunction in
the engine
that would effect emissions and keep the code for retrieval at
the service
point.
early OBDII systems were overly sensitive, making engine
alterations
impossible.
OBDIII may be the big brother, with a road
version of a black box and direct
cellular communications with goverment
agencies. your emission or speed
violations can be detected instanteneously
as well as your location and
heading. two way comunications can allow
agencies to disable your vehicle.
sound like a nightmare but the
technology and infrastructure is here and
available right now. It is justy a
matter of public acceptance for these
type of controls to be
implemented.
who would have guessed one day our speeds will be tracked by
aircraft,
radars and lasers? who would have guessed one day our cars will be
inspected
for any modifications?
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Date:
Thu, 22 Jul 1999 10:28:22 PDT
From: "Rob Lewin" <sdholo@hotmail.com>
Subject: Team3S:
Fuel pressure problems
Seems as though I have a fuel presure problem.
When the tank gets down below
5 gallons the car is hard to start, and acts
as though it isn't getting
enough fuel. The rpms are VERY low (<500) and
the car stalls if I just sit
at idle for a few seconds. When I fill up the
tank the rps and the idle goes
back to normal. Is this the fuel pump? a
computer problem? This started just
after I got the air conditioning fixed
three weeks ago. I have no idea how
it might be related.
Also when I
came into work this morning, I was sitting at a stop light and
the engine
just stalled. When I started it up again (and pulled off the
road) it ran
very roughly (like one cylinder wasn't firing) and the check
engine light
stayed on. Oil pressure was good, and a causual inspection
showed all the
hoses and wires were connected and nothing leaking out the
bottom. After
sitting for a minute I turned on the ignition, all the lights
went out so I
tried to start the car again and it came right up. Sounded
normal and
smooth, so I went to work.
Any ideas on what the heck is going on???
Thanks
Rob (one confused driver)
'91 Mystic Blue R/T
TT
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Date:
Thu, 22 Jul 1999 13:48:02 -0500 (EST)
From: Dennis Moore <stealth@kiva.net>
Subject: Team3S:
Tranny swap-out question
Anyone have any experience with swapping out for
a different tranny in the
FWD versions of our cars? I don't mean just
replacing with another OEM,
but putting something "different" in.
(For those keeping track, I'm the one who reported the car dropping out
of
fifth gear last week. Heeding the advice of Matt J. and others,
it's
parked in the garage right waiting for me to throw it up on
jackstands
this weekend to inspect that 5th gear shaft nut thingy...
Sadly, I found
a piece of cast aluminum in my driveway which bears an
unfortunate
resemblance to part of a tranny casing. :( So, I'm
not too optimistic
about what I'll find. Hence my interest in any
discussion of alternatives
when I have to get one installed.)
One of
you mentioned (Vineet, maybe?) that these trannies were "the same"
as those
on the DSM cars. Is that "the same" as in "identical
and
interchangeable"? Or as in "similar design"?
Thanks.
Dennis Moore
stealth@kiva.net
Yes, I'm afraid you
*did* go to college for this job.
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Date:
Thu, 22 Jul 1999 13:49:52 -0500
From: Merritt <merritt@cedar-rapids.net>
Subject:
Re: Team3S: Tranny swap-out question
At 01:48 PM 7/22/99 -0500, Dennis
Moore wrote:
>Anyone have any experience with swapping out for a different
tranny in the
>FWD versions of our cars? I don't mean just replacing
with another OEM,
>but putting something "different" in.
>
I just happen to have a fire-breathing 1967 302 Ford V8 with
Hooker
headers, automatic tranny, shifter kit, Hurst shifter, and a
9-in. Ford
rear end, all out of a drag racer.
Oughta drop right in there.
Might even make yer car run with a VR4.
It comes with an attached 1967
Mustang body, making transport easier.
Rich/old poop
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Date:
Thu, 22 Jul 1999 14:01:59 -0500
From: "Matt Jannusch" <mattj@fallon.com>
Subject: RE: Team3S:
Tranny swap-out question
> One of you mentioned (Vineet, maybe?) that
these trannies were "the same"
> as those on the DSM cars. Is that
"the same" as in "identical and
> interchangeable"? Or as in
"similar design"?
By the diagrams in the service manuals, they look at
least similar in
design. I wouldn't doubt that Mitsubishi/Dodge used
the tranny from the DSM
cars in order to save costs on the FWD 3/S
platform. If you can find a part
number or model number or something on
your tranny we might be able to match
it up with the tranny code from the
DSMs in the Tranny Rebuild manual.
That's not my area of expertise, but I'm
sure someone knows for sure or can
find out.
- -Matt
'95 3000GT
Spyder VR4
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Date:
Thu, 22 Jul 1999 13:53:29 -0700
From: "Murat Okcuoglu" <murat@ashacorp.com>
Subject: Re:
Team3S: Tranny swap-out question
the only hope I see is V6 manual DSM or
mitsu applications.
if there is a manual diamante, you have a chance.
note
that late DSM cars come with chrysler engines with NVG trannies. they
are not
compatible with mitsu.
If yours were an auto, you would have
hope.
hey, dont worry, I am sure the 5sp trannies are plentiful and
affordable at
the junkyards.
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