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Team3S Digest           Friday, July 9 1999           Volume 01 : Number 227




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Date: Fri, 9 Jul 1999 17:02:13 -0500
From: "Gabriel Estrada" <typhoonzz@earthlink.net>
Subject: Team3S: Track times

Got a question about track times.  The 3000 GT is not my daily driver,
normally my wife drives it so I am not the best manual transmission driver
in the world.  With that tid-bit out of the way, what types of track times
can i expect to run in the 1/4 mile on a stock VR-4?  I took it to our local
track and my times were horable.  Granted it was hot, my Typhoon was running
mid 13's in 98 degree weather.  I did 3 runs in the VR-4
first run    16.587 @ 87 mph
second run  15.785 @ 93 mph
Third run   15.012 @ 96 mph
What is the best way to launch at the track?  I was dumping the clutch at
3500 rpm and it was very slow out of the hole.  What am I doing wrong?
Thanks in advance
Gabe Estrada
94 Pearl Yellow 3000 GT VR-4
92 Black GMC Typhoon

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Date: Thu, 8 Jul 1999 18:20:00 -0400 (EDT)
From: "Dennis G. Bretton " <dbretton@cs.uml.edu>
Subject: Team3S: [stealth] Weapon-R Deal! (fwd)

This came from Amir.  I posted it here, as it might be of use.
The Weapon-R is yet another foam filter.

Though, I have to admit, this one is probably better looking than most. :)

Regards,
   Dennis


- ---------- Forwarded message ----------
Date: Thu, 08 Jul 1999 10:46:07 -0500
From: Amir Shaikh <shakham@cig.mot.com>
Reply-To: stealth@dragnet.com
To: stealth@dragnet.com
Subject: [stealth] Weapon-R Deal!

Hello all,

Weapon-R filter (your choice of colours) for $85 at Buschur Racing
(www.buschurracing.com).

I called to pick up a K&N Aircharger.  They were on severe back order
with K&N so they negotiated a deal with Weapon-R to offer it at the same
price.  Normally they sell it at $125.

I don't get anything for this endorsement, just thought I'd let you guys
know about it.  I ordered mine but haven't gotten it yet. 

later,
Amir

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Date: Thu, 08 Jul 1999 17:40:33 -0500
From: Trevor James <trevorlj@feist.com>
Subject: Re: Team3S: Track times

13.5-13.8@99-101 for the 94+'s. Best way for me to launch is to rev to 5000 and dump it.

Trevor
96 R/T TT 13.52@101.1 w/K&N
91 R/T TT 14.03@99 Stock

Gabriel Estrada wrote:

> Got a question about track times.  The 3000 GT is not my daily driver,
> normally my wife drives it so I am not the best manual transmission driver
> in the world.  With that tid-bit out of the way, what types of track times
> can i expect to run in the 1/4 mile on a stock VR-4?  I took it to our local
> track and my times were horable.  Granted it was hot, my Typhoon was running
> mid 13's in 98 degree weather.  I did 3 runs in the VR-4
> first run    16.587 @ 87 mph
> second run  15.785 @ 93 mph
> Third run   15.012 @ 96 mph
> What is the best way to launch at the track?  I was dumping the clutch at
> 3500 rpm and it was very slow out of the hole.  What am I doing wrong?
> Thanks in advance
> Gabe Estrada
> 94 Pearl Yellow 3000 GT VR-4
> 92 Black GMC Typhoon
>
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Date: Thu, 8 Jul 1999 18:54:43 -0400
From: "Carlos Q" <pir8ska@shadow.net>
Subject: Team3S: Boost Levels and Fuel Mods

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I think we all know that the maximum boost our cars can safely produce =
with the stock fuel system is 15 psi.
 What boost levels can we work with as we upgrade our fuel systems? For =
example: if we upgrade our fuel pump to, lets say, an in-tank HKS =
high-flow fuel pump, and we get 550cc injectors (along with the hardware =
neccessary to control the new injectors, like a vpc)... what kind of =
boost levels could a vr4 reach?
Also, would more efficient intercoolers (any suggestions?) combat our =
fuel problem by lowering cylinder temp?
One more question: I know that when we are lightly modified and we start =
off by raising our boost levels to 15lbs, we should regap our plugs to =
.34.... would it be better to upgrade the ignition system? I know some =
people have mentioned that they have HKS twin power for their ignition =
system, does this work?

Thanks,
Carlos

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Date: Thu, 8 Jul 1999 16:10:06 -0700
From: Chris Winkley <cwinkley@plaza.ds.adp.com>
Subject: FW: Team3S: Service Manuals On CD

Robert...

Sorry, I can't help with your problem from here at work, but if you want a
handy version of the manuals after you've received those gold plated ones,
here's a low cost back-up. This is not a sales pitch, I have the factory
manuals and Vineet's CD...I like them both, but it's easier to search for
specifics on the CD, then print what you need. Then, when you want to write
notes, you don't have to worry about that gold plating. Good luck!!!

Looking forward...Chris

- -----Original Message-----
From: Vineet Singh [mailto:billi_gates@hotmail.com]
Sent: Sunday, June 06, 1999 11:24 AM
To: stealth-3000gt@list.sirius.com
Subject: Team3S: Service Manuals On CD

Since it was mentioned but "forgotten", I thought I'd give out the URL
again. Thanks for the great response so far!

Backup Service Manuals ON CD are available at,
http://manualcd.dsm.org/ for $35 ($40 if out of the US/CAN)

Thanks!

Vineet Singh
DSM & 3/S Manuals on CD - http://manualcd.dsm.org
Club DSM A/T - http://at.dsm.org  -  "Never Lift To Shift!"
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Date: Thu, 8 Jul 1999 19:12:37 -0500
From: "Paul T. Golley" <ptgolley@ro.com>
Subject: Re: Team3S: Engine and Transaxle oil change

>> Personally, I swear by the Fram oil filters - inexpensive, and they seem
>to
>> work really well.


All-
I have been using Fram automotive filters exclusively for 51 years,
and have never had a problem with any (oil, air, fuel, pvc, etc); in race,
sports or road (street) cars.  Some have less stress margins
than OEM filters, but they meet all specs for OEM designs.  In the
case of Mitsubishi (VR-4) filters, they meet all OEM specs, and
cost about one third as much.  So I'll stick with them.
Regards, ptg

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Date: Thu, 08 Jul 1999 20:45:41 -0400
From: Jason Barnhart <phnxgld@erols.com>
Subject: Re: Team3S: Track times

If you're gonna dump the clutch, you'll have to go much higher than 3500 rpms.  Most
people frown against dumping the clutch because of the strain it can put on the trans,
but you will get your best/most consistent times that way.  At 88k miles (even on my
plugs and wires) with only a filter for mods I was able to get a 13.64 by slipping the
clutch off the line.  It takes alot more skill to slip it perfectly and I probably could

have done better.  With dump clutch launches I was able to turn a 13.36@102.54 and
beleive it or not it spun a little too much off the line.  You'll be lucky if the clutch

will not slip at least every now and then when you dump the clutch.  If it's hot and
sticky at the track, you'd be best to pull through the water and NOT do a burnout.  If
it's cool, you can probably induce slip without the aid of a little water, but it
doesn't hurt to try.  As an interesting side note I did decide to do a burnout in the
water one day after having the car spin excessively off the line.  I'd been dumping the
clutch at 7k rpms and decided to dump it at 6k after a burnout.  The lights came down, I

dumped it, the tires did NOT spin, and the clutch did NOT slip.  I bogged my way to a
13.39 after being surprised my car didn't explode :P
  I'm actually wondering if you're having some other issues with the car if it won't run

better than that, even with lousy launches.  I'm by far not a pro, but I was able to
turn my 13.64 the first time I'd been to a track in ANY car.  The worst I've ever done
was a 14.07, this was with 88k miles on the plugs and wires which caused stumbling at
times, only a filter for mods, and missing third gear.
  I'd suggest getting a boost gauge to see if you're making proper boost, replacing the
plugs and wires, especially if it stumbles, and checking hoses under the hood for breaks

or leaks.

Jason
http://www.erols.com/danebar

Gabriel Estrada wrote:

> Got a question about track times.  The 3000 GT is not my daily driver,
> normally my wife drives it so I am not the best manual transmission driver
> in the world.  With that tid-bit out of the way, what types of track times
> can i expect to run in the 1/4 mile on a stock VR-4?  I took it to our local
> track and my times were horable.  Granted it was hot, my Typhoon was running
> mid 13's in 98 degree weather.  I did 3 runs in the VR-4
> first run    16.587 @ 87 mph
> second run  15.785 @ 93 mph
> Third run   15.012 @ 96 mph
> What is the best way to launch at the track?  I was dumping the clutch at
> 3500 rpm and it was very slow out of the hole.  What am I doing wrong?
> Thanks in advance
> Gabe Estrada
> 94 Pearl Yellow 3000 GT VR-4
> 92 Black GMC Typhoon
>
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Date: Thu, 08 Jul 1999 20:55:42 -0400
From: Jason Barnhart <phnxgld@erols.com>
Subject: Re: Team3S: [stealth] Weapon-R Deal! (fwd)

I have the Weapon-R and if I could do it again I'd get the tried and true K&N.  I can't
complain about my timeslips, but I doubt I can thank my filter for that.  I can however
curse the fact that it took some heavy filing to get the adapter to fit the MAS.  The
selling point for me was the open front that's exactly 4".  You could run a 4" hose to
the front of the filter and maybe work up some sort of ram air but this would take much
more room than we have under the hood.  My Weapon-R is 4-5" from inner fender, hardly
the room needed for a 4", 90 degree, mandrel bent hose.  I say get the cheaper, tried
and true K&N with the 1,000,000 mile warranty.

Jason
http://www.erols.com/danebar

Dennis G. Bretton wrote:

> This came from Amir.  I posted it here, as it might be of use.
> The Weapon-R is yet another foam filter.
>
> Though, I have to admit, this one is probably better looking than most. :)
>
> Regards,
>    Dennis
>
> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> Date: Thu, 08 Jul 1999 10:46:07 -0500
> From: Amir Shaikh <shakham@cig.mot.com>
> Reply-To: stealth@dragnet.com
> To: stealth@dragnet.com
> Subject: [stealth] Weapon-R Deal!
>
> Hello all,
>
> Weapon-R filter (your choice of colours) for $85 at Buschur Racing
> (www.buschurracing.com).
>
> I called to pick up a K&N Aircharger.  They were on severe back order
> with K&N so they negotiated a deal with Weapon-R to offer it at the same
> price.  Normally they sell it at $125.
>
> I don't get anything for this endorsement, just thought I'd let you guys
> know about it.  I ordered mine but haven't gotten it yet.
>
> later,
> Amir
>
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Date: Thu, 8 Jul 1999 21:21:53 -0500
From: "Brad Bedell" <bbedell@austin.rr.com>
Subject: Team3S: RPS Carbon Clutch update

Supra Members and 3000GT list members:


Rob still has not been in touch with me with my slipping Turbo Carbon
Clutch. Almost 3 weeks now!

The supra digest is having nothing but slipping problems with their carbon
clutch setup!!
Another mention of an MR2 Carbon clutch slipping also.
I have had problems with 4 RPS clutches I have installed on Mitsubishi
products, and can produce a list of people who have had bad luck with RPS
Turbo Clutch.

On behalf of Rob, he has been prompt at taking care of the supra owners
clutches, and has (in the past) been prompt at taking care of my problem.  I
have found him to be a very knowledgeable person with tuning and building
cars.   My problem is only with the clutch.

With two installs @ 8 hours per install I don't have time to deal with a
faulty product. (on my car alone)  With out some warranty labor compensation
I will not ever recommend the RPS clutch to anyone.  Including my
customers...

Out of respect to Rob Smith I have also sent a copy to him.


Brad
Check out my home page:   http://home.austin.rr.com/overboost/
> E-Mail: bbedell@austin.rr.com ICQ#  3612682


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Date: Thu, 08 Jul 1999 22:58:14 -0400
From: Mark <pagan@siscom.net>
Subject: Team3S: starting problems

I posted this message a few times on 3si.org and have received little
conversation, and even smaller ideas about what is wrong.. perhaps here
will help.

*Breath* (long winded)

I have a '93 RT TT and one day I went out to start the car (after sitting
all night in the garage) when the car was cool and it wouldn't start. It
would finally start, run for a short period of time and then shut off. I
could be driving down the street making boost, or just sitting there didn't
matter. There was no hesitation, no signs, no anything .. just shut off.


Here's the kicker, once the car warms up it runs strong, doesn't shut off
or anything. If I take the car when it is acting this way out of the garage
and let it sit in the sun all day, I can start it at the end of the day and
run it with no problems. So somehow I think this has to be related to heat
(don't know how though). If it doesn't get below 75 degrees here at night I
don't ever have any problems with the car starting or running (starting
problems = will turn over but not fire, not even try to fire).


Mods = K&N FIPK, Extreme XBC (15psi), ATR Downpipe, Test pipe, custom 3"
catback, gutted precats, autometer boost guage, nr overlays, (fuel mods on
the way)


Any help would be appreciated.
Mark
'93 RT TT


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Date: Fri, 09 Jul 1999 00:22:07 -0400
From: "J. Stephen Gula" <loco3kgt@widomaker.com>
Subject: Team3S: Mods for a NT.. possible and theoretical

Hey guys... figured I'd venture and make my 6th post to the list in as
many months... but here's the situation..

    My friend has just discovered the wonderful world of superchargers
and turbochargers for his 3.8L SN95 Mustang... either of which will put
his power well above mine... and I ain't happy with that... let alone
the fact that he's doing a complete suspension overhaul... now.. knowing
the psychology behind why _most_ guys get sports cars, I'd guess you
guys know what I'm getting at.
    230 or so horse power is nice and all, and FWD makes for one killer
handler (which I've personally proven against many Trans Ams, Mustang
Cobras, and Chevy Vettes), but everything needs improvement. The
following are my current plans for my car:

Engine:
(1) Stainless steel pipe from the air filter to the throttle body which
will then most likely be wrapped in a thermal wrap
(2) Larger bore throttle body.
(3) Custom exhaust
(4) Magnecore 8.5mmwires  (with some other ignition goodies) w/ a
complete tune-up and fuel injector cleaning

Suspension, etc:
(1) Eibach Springs
(2) GAB Super HP springs all aroudn
(3) 17" rims w/ 245 or larger (anyone know what's the largest I can run
before running into problems)

Now, after all that, I'm hoping to hit a peak of 240-250hp and hold
around .95 lateral G's (assuming the mags are right and I can hold
.89G's stock)..... but that's still nothing off the line with FWD.

So the question is, what is it going to take to step over that thin line
between accessory and excessive? I can tolerate a 50hp shot of NOS, but
it's not my first choice... and how difficult would it be to get a
turbocharger (using the VR-4 stock stuff)? *maybe* even a supercharger
fitted?

Mainly, I'm looking at my options, but I don't know how many I have or
where to begin. I'm all for suggestions on what to do and definitely
what _not_ to do. All ideas welcome.

- --Steve "Loco3KGT" Gula

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Date: Fri, 9 Jul 1999 01:55:03 -0700
From: "Bob Forrest" <bf@bobforrest.com>
Subject: Re: Team3S: Mods for a NT.. possible and theoretical

- -----Original Message-----From: J. Stephen Gula <loco3kgt@widomaker.com>
- --------snip-------
|following are my current plans for my car:
|Engine:
|(1) Stainless steel pipe from the air filter to the throttle body which
|will then most likely be wrapped in a thermal wrap
|(2) Larger bore throttle body.
|(3) Custom exhaust
|(4) Magnecore 8.5mmwires  (with some other ignition goodies) w/ a
|complete tune-up and fuel injector cleaning


Hey, Steve,

Great minds think alike...  I've been considering the 'smooth stainless'
intake and throttle body mods for my NT as well.  But just as a reminder,
make sure that a custom exhaust maintains the back pressure needed to keep
the low end-- if you have an exhaust system with less restriction (very
desirable for the turbos), you gain a bit at the top, but you'll be slower
off the line.  And it seems to be arguable, but the stock wires with NGKs
seem to be a better choice for all the S/3ks than any Magnecore or 'hot tip'
ignition goodies.

|Suspension, etc:
|(1) Eibach Springs
|(2) GAB Super HP springs all around
|(3) 17" rims w/ 245 or larger (anyone know what's the largest I can run
|before running into problems)


Here I think I disagree a bit...  I like the Eibachs (they're on my wish
list too), but that's a slight suspension mod that doesn't scare me.  I LIKE
the way my Stealth handles right now, and I'm hesitant to start messing with
it too much (with super springs and huge tires and all).  I'm kind of at the
limit for my car, having gone from 15" (stock) to 16" R/T wheels with 9"+
wide performance tires (Nitto Extreme 225/55R16 V-rated), -1 degree camber
adjust, and rad tire pressures of 43F/37R.  It keeps the superior handling
dynamic designed into the car, but makes it just a bit tighter.  A similar
upgrade for you would be from NT stock 16" to 17" and as wide as 255.  (OEM
for the turbos is 245/45R17, but you could go as wide as 255 and still fit
on the 8.5" wide [turbo] stock 17" wheels.  You'd need 9" wide wheels for
275s).

|Now, after all that, I'm hoping to hit a peak of 240-250hp and hold
|around .95 lateral G's (assuming the mags are right and I can hold
|.89G's stock)..... but that's still nothing off the line with FWD.


I don't know if you'll get .95, but you can get close by going with -3
degrees and about a 1 degree toe-in when you compete.  A good performance
guy can set you up when the time comes...

|So the question is, what is it going to take to step over that thin line
|between accessory and excessive? I can tolerate a 50hp shot of NOS, but
|it's not my first choice... and how difficult would it be to get a
|turbocharger (using the VR-4 stock stuff)? *maybe* even a supercharger
|fitted?


240-250 HP should be no problem with what you suggest..., and add another 10
HP +/- with an electric supercharger.  Roger thinks a 75 HP shot of NOS
wouldn't be too stressful on the car; I'm sure a 50 HP shot will be less
so...  A real supercharger would be tough and big $$$ to set up a belt to
drive it; and even if you moved the battery to the trunk, there still might
not be enough room.  But don't even THINK about adding turbos-- the
oft-repeated consensus from all the top mods guys is that trading in the NT
for a turbo makes much more sense, since it would be cheaper and run better.

Remember, that even a 250 HP S/3k NT will be competitive with a TT because
of the several hundred pounds lighter weight.  Get to 250HP and lay in a NOS
kit, and you're ready to eat beasts!

Forrest


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Date: Fri, 09 Jul 1999 07:05 -0500
From: Jeff A Williamson <Jeff.A.Williamson@jci.com>
Subject: Team3S: RE: Need TEC turbos phone #

These numbers are a few years old, but here's what I have. (800)950-8872, or
(916)873-3488, or (303)271-3997.

Jeff.

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Date: Fri, 09 Jul 1999 08:21:08 -0400
From: William Lynn Larsen <wlarsen@ibm.net>
Subject: Re: Team3S: Engine and Transaxle oil change

All,

The study is one man's opinion, but that opinion is based on some pretty
hard facts that he gathered in doing the study. The one thing Fram (and
many others) doesn't have that is a must in my book is the anti drain
back check valve.

Regards,
Lynn

Jim Berry wrote:
>
> ========================================================================
> http://members.xoom.com/_XOOM/minimopar/oilfilterstudy.html
>
> the site shown above tests oil filters and he didn't have anything good to say about Fram.
> Keep in mind when reading that this is one mans opinion.

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Date: Fri, 09 Jul 1999 07:08:36 -0600
From: Tom Wilson <kb7get@cyberhighway.net>
Subject: Re: Team3S: Engine and Transaxle oil change

Oil filters that are mounted vertically on the bottom of the engine do not
have the anti drain back valve. Ones that are mounted horizontally or on the
top of the engine have the valve. We have filters at work (Napa) that are
basicly identical except for the valve. Just depends on how it mounts on
your car if it needs one or not...





At 08:21 AM 7/9/99 -0400, William Lynn Larsen wrote:
>All,
>
>The study is one man's opinion, but that opinion is based on some pretty
>hard facts that he gathered in doing the study. The one thing Fram (and
>many others) doesn't have that is a must in my book is the anti drain
>back check valve.
>
>Regards,
>Lynn
>
>Jim Berry wrote:
>>
>> ========================================================================
>> http://members.xoom.com/_XOOM/minimopar/oilfilterstudy.html
>>
>> the site shown above tests oil filters and he didn't have anything good
to say about Fram.
>> Keep in mind when reading that this is one mans opinion.
>
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>
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Date: Fri, 9 Jul 1999 07:55:29 -0700
From: Chris Winkley <cwinkley@plaza.ds.adp.com>
Subject: RE: Team3S: Mods for a NT.. possible and theoretical

Stephen...

Bob's advice is good. I hate to tell this story, but last summer my VR4 was
"almost" beat by Rich LeRoy's NT (he had his seats pulled, trunk empty, but
no radical mods). My boost controller wasn't programmed and my plug gap was
off, but I'll be damned if he didn't darn near catch me. He certainly
would've pulled ahead of me if he had nitrous.

If I was in your situation, I'd do one of two things...add nitrous or buy a
TT. The biggest problem with nitrous is that you'll need to get REALLY good
at the launches, or add a rpm metering device. NT tend to be at a
disadvantage due to wheelspin (Rich's next plan is to get slicks for the
front).

Looking forward...Chris

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From: Bob Forrest [mailto:bf@bobforrest.com]
Sent: Friday, July 09, 1999 1:55 AM
To: J. Stephen Gula; Team3S
Subject: Re: Team3S: Mods for a NT.. possible and theoretical
<snip>

Remember, that even a 250 HP S/3k NT will be competitive with a TT because
of the several hundred pounds lighter weight.  Get to 250HP and lay in a NOS
kit, and you're ready to eat beasts!

Forrest
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Date: Fri, 9 Jul 1999 08:55:36 -0700
From: "Murat Okcuoglu" <murat@ashacorp.com>
Subject: Re: Team3S: starting problems

It seems to me that you have a hairline crack at the ECU printed circuit
board.

it is a simple and cheap (free) fix if you can handle the solder iron.

it may help checking under a lighted scope magnifier

good luck

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Date: Fri, 09 Jul 1999 09:38:52 -0700
From: Ken Middaugh <Kenneth.Middaugh@gat.com>
Subject: Re: Team3S: Engine and Transaxle oil change

> Oil filters that are mounted vertically on the bottom of the engine do not
> have the anti drain back valve. Ones that are mounted horizontally or on the
> top of the engine have the valve. We have filters at work (Napa) that are
> basicly identical except for the valve. Just depends on how it mounts on
> your car if it needs one or not...

I would still rather have the anti drain back valve even if my filter hangs
upside down.  I wouldn't want any dirty oil siphoned back into the engine after
I turn it off and the oil migrates back to the oil pan, although I don't know if
this is even possible.  I'll continue to pay for the valve -- my last purchase
of OEM filters were $4.50 each in quantities of 6 from Norco Mitsu.

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Hang up and drive!

Ken Middaugh
General Atomics
San Diego
(619) 455-4510
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Date: Fri, 9 Jul 1999 13:49:54 -0700
From: "Gross, Erik" <erik.gross@intel.com>
Subject: Team3S: Synthetic Oil --> Dinosaur Oil, GM EOS

Quick question:  Any cautions or warnings about switching from Syn to Dino?

I was thinking of using dino oil in my next oil change to see if that
reduces the lifter tick.  I've been using Mobil 1 Synthetic for my last 5
oil changes, and my dealer says that synthetic can actually make the ticking
louder.  Curious if there's any truth to that, but want to make sure there's
nothing bad for the engine about switching back to dino oil for an oil
change or two to see how it affects the ticking.

BTW, GM EOS (Engine Oil Supplement)  reduces (and 99% of the time
eliminates) my ticking noise.  I just hear the fuel injectors now.
Apparently Mitsu actually recommends this product, even though the GM
warning label specifically says it's not supposed to be added to crankcase
oil:)  I am, however concerned about the long-term effects on the engine.
Anyone know?

- --Erik

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Erik Gross                                         DuPont, WA
'95 Pearl White 3000GT 56k mi
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Date: Fri, 09 Jul 1999 17:55:07 -0400
From: Michael Booker <mrbook@gate.net>
Subject: Re: Team3S: Mods for a NT.. possible and theoretical

Is there somebody that can fabricate the custom intake from stainless
steel? If so, I have an idea that will get a ram-air system going. I was
thinking, if the pipe can incorporate the MAS and extend down and into
the space where the TT's have intercoolers...What about a 90 degree
bend, and an HKS super mega flow filter placed so that teh air is rammed
into it. It would get a slight ram effect, and the air would be cooler
coming from outside the engine bay. Anybody know where there is a
fabricator that could do this type of work?

Thanks.
Matt
#311
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Date: Fri, 9 Jul 1999 17:03:49 -0700
From: "Murat Okcuoglu" <murat@ashacorp.com>
Subject: Re: Team3S: Synthetic Oil --> Dinosaur Oil, GM EOS

just replace the lifters. they are only $10 at pepboys

otherwise try Mobil1 5W50, it is higher viscosity but that should be better
at warm weather and if your engine is not brand new.

I would not be comfortable with additives.



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