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Digest Thursday, July 8
1999 Volume 01 : Number
226
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Date:
Wed, 7 Jul 1999 14:34:50 -0500
From: "Basol, John" <jbasol@Carlson.com>
Subject: RE:
Team3S: TMO Datalogger / ECU programming
Damn am I jealous. Where
do I get one of these and how much?
John Basol
System Management
Services
Carlson Companies Inc.
(612) 212-3714
(612)
212-1125
> -----Original Message-----
> From: R.G. [SMTP:robby@freesurf.ch]
> Sent:
Wednesday, July 07, 1999 2:20 PM
> To: Team3S List
> Cc: tmo@tmo.com; billi_gates@hotmail.com
>
Subject: Team3S: TMO Datalogger / ECU programming
>
> I got the TMO
Datalogger this weekend and finally installed it today. I
> tried to
install it on my old pen-notebook with Win 3.11 but it was not
>
sucessful. Also the DOS version won't start and failed with a nerror
code.
> I
> now borrowed a "normal" notebook with NT 4.0 and was
able to install it
> successfully.
>
> I connected the RS232
adapter to the diagnose port and one line to a 12V
> source. The software
started immediatly and after hitting "Connect" I was
> asked for the port
on the PC (COM1 in my case) and the SW stated that the
> Datalogger was
found.
>
> It connected to the ECU of my 93'3000GT European Version
without a problem
> and immediatly showed the sensor values. The
information tab showed two
> "unknown" fields (engine and ECU) but I know
what engine is installed in
> the
> car :-) Some sensor readings can
be shown as % or real voltage (like the
> TPS) while the IDC is shown in
ms. There are several tabs in a window that
> show such information
online. The logging function consits of a graph
> window
> that
shows the actual data online as a streaming line. It can be halted
>
and
> restarted at will and records selected sensors or values an
unlimited time
> (I've not seen any limitation) A summary of knock amount
is shown too !
>
> Also the the display showed two error codes !
Air tremp and barometric
> sensor.... of course, because my WI
installation is not done yet and the
> MAS
> is still unconnected !
All in all, it works as it is supposed to do on a
> DSM
> car. Even
the four solenoids could be switched on/off and the injectors
>
deactivated one by one.
>
> IMHO, it is an absolute necessary tool
for tuning the car with all the
> necessary information like knock,
timing, O2 sensors, IAT, etc. With this
> I'm able to compare the
different programs I have for the G-Force ECU. As
> I
> already
found the locations of the constants in the program I'm now able
>
to
> change them by myself and optimize the timing and fuel map to the
best
> possible value. Even more I do have an EPROM emulator that allows
me to
> simulate the program and change the params "on the fly". I can't
wait to
> record the results of the knock readings with and without WI
;-))
>
> Stay tuned,
> Roger
> 93'3000GT TT ... well
observed now 8-)
>
>
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Date:
Wed, 7 Jul 1999 22:22:42 +0200
From: "R.G." <robby@freesurf.ch>
Subject: Re:
Team3S: TMO Datalogger / ECU programming
Check out Todd's page under : www.tmo.com
He's selling the TMO Datalogger for
1st gen DSM cars, Price is $300.
Unfortunately, there is no 2nd gen around
here to test it but I think it
doen't work on ODBII cars.
PS: I also
have a DOS tool (Diacom) for the f-body (Camaro Z28). The normal
Version
retails for about $299 but only a logging for 30 seconds and no
graph is
possible. The Diacom Plus with the graphing and 20 minute of
recording costs
$579. Compared to this the TMO Datalogger is a really good
deal
!
Regards,
Roger
93'3000GT TT
>Damn am I jealous.
Where do I get one of these and how much?
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Date:
Wed, 7 Jul 1999 13:39:30 -0700
From: "Murat Okcuoglu" <murat@ashacorp.com>
Subject: Re:
Team3S: TMO Datalogger / ECU programming
what is this TMO?,
can it be
used on older cars or does it need ODBII?
is it just a cable and
software?
can the streamline graph speed be adjusted? (time scale)
can the
data be saved? (ASCII or *.txt, etc.)
how much? from where?
I am very
excited to see your results.
Thanks!
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Date:
Wed, 7 Jul 1999 22:55:29 +0200
From: "R.G." <robby@freesurf.ch>
Subject: Re:
Team3S: TMO Datalogger / ECU programming
Please be a little patience as
I'm currently rerouting the DSBC valves box
as well as the WI system is not
yet installed (hardware yes but not
electrically). The car is not running at
the moment and what I checked was
with the engine off.
- - TMO is
Technomotive (Todd Day, well known in the DSM world)
- - It is used on ODBI
or non-ODB cars (AFAIK, not ODBII)
- - It is a cable with a little plug and
Software
- - Data logging is about 50-75 samples per second
- - I'm not
sure about the streamline graph speed ... have to check it out
- - Saving
data in its own format is possible (including replay)
- - Export should be
working, although I haven't tried it. It could be that
this feature
is currently under Dev. for the WIN version
- - $300, TMO directly or call
Vineet if you need help on another way for
ordering
If there are more
people interested in this product we can maybe convince
Todd to finish the
product with the features that are currently "under
developement". I do not
need the virtual gauges but I definitely need the
export function into Excel
(you know, I'm spreadsheet freak)
Later
Roger
93'3000GT
TT
>what is this TMO?,
>can it be used on older cars or does it
need ODBII?
>is it just a cable and software?
>can the streamline
graph speed be adjusted? (time scale)
>can the data be saved? (ASCII or
*.txt, etc.)
>how much? from where?
>I am very excited to see your
results.
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Date:
Wed, 7 Jul 1999 18:31:17 -0400 (EDT)
From: "Dennis G. Bretton " <dbretton@cs.uml.edu>
Subject:
Team3S: Ralliart catalogue
Hello all,
This might be slightly
off-topic, but I think it really isn't. There
might be some good stuff
for the 3000gt in here.
There's a fella on ebay selling a
ralliart catalogue. Thought it might
be of interest to some of
you:
http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=127584458
Regards,
Dennis
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Date:
Wed, 7 Jul 1999 23:09:07 -0400
From: "Meyer" <meyer2@erols.com>
Subject: Re: Team3S:
Downpipe for OBDII cars...
ATR and Alamo make downpipes for your car.
Email privately for prices.
Frank
www.AcceleratedAccessories.com
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-----Original Message-----
From: Trevor James <trevorlj@feist.com>
To: Team3S <stealth-3000gt@list.sirius.com>
Date:
Wednesday, July 07, 1999 1:08 PM
Subject: Team3S: Downpipe for OBDII
cars...
>I was going to buy Arty's ATR downpipe but I just looked
at my 96 and
there's a boss on
>the vertical part of the pipe that goes
to the rear precat for the extra 02
sensor for
>the OBDII cars. Anyone
know of any aftermarket downpipes that come with
that boss? If I
>can't
find one I'll have to try those Casper Electronics O2 sensor
simulators. I
could
>gut the precats too with those
installed....
>
>Trevor
>96 R/T TT
>91 R/T
TT
>
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Date:
Wed, 7 Jul 1999 21:11:41 -0700
From: "Jim Berry" <fastmax@home.com>
Subject: Team3S: Re:
Tires and wheels
check arrowtire@msn.com they have an ad in the 3SI
classifieds --- he has some cheap
stuff that needs rechrome, he is a wheel
repair guy.
Jim
berry
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----- Original Message -----
From: Merritt <merritt@cedar-rapids.net>
To:
<stealth@starnet.net>; <stealth-3000gt@list.sirius.com>
Sent:
Wednesday, July 07, 1999 10:19 AM
Subject: Tires and wheels
>
Hey gang:
>
> Just spoke with the folks at Tire Rack and ordered a
set of Yokohama A032Rs
> ($163 each, plus tax and shipping). Next will be
a set of street wheels and
> tires. I can see the air in two
of my street tires.
>
> I spoke with their technical wizard, John
Rastetter, and he knows our cars
> well. He warned me about getting a
cheapie wheel for open track racing,
> because of the deep offset on our
wheels. So we decided to use my stock
> chromies to mount up the Yokos,
and maybe I'll order a set of street wheels
> and tires later.
>
> Geez... wheels suitable for racing are $450 or so. The chromies may
be
> heavy, but they are very strong. And cheap.
>
> He said
I can run the Yokos on the street, because they come with 6/32nds
> of
tread, and have a pattern suitable for use in the rain. He says I can
>
expect 6-7,000 miles of street use plus competition at autocrosses and
open
> track events.
> Sounds like about a season's worth of wear,
which is what I wanted. I can
> even drive on them to events 300 miles
away.
>
> I can't wait for the next Corvette club autocross --
last time, I got all
> but one Vette. With these new sticky tires, that
bad ass 454 will be
> history, dude.
>
> John also
confirmed what I've said here before -- that the new BFG G-Force
> race
tires only come shaved, with 3/32nds of tread.
>
> BTW, he said an
18 in. wheel and tire is exactly the same height -- 27.5
> in. -- as a 17
in. I didn't know that. If I can't find a cheap set of
> stock
17 in. chromies, I may go to 18 inchers.
>
> Anybody got a set of
1994 chromies (five spoke) for sale cheap? I'll take
> them even if the
chrome is pitted or peeling.
>
> If you have a technical question
about wheels and tires for our cars, I
> suggest you give John Rastetter a
call at 800/981-3783 or check the site at
> www.tirerack.com.
>
> Rich/old
poop/94 VR4/almost re-tired.
> As in rubber, dude.
>
>
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Date:
Thu, 8 Jul 1999 09:04:46 +0200
From: lehir@genesiscom.ch (Genesiscon
Lehir)
Subject: Team3S: Stock Steering Wheel Radio control question
My
stock stereo and CD (two unit) seems to be failing.
Is there any
aftermarket stereo that will allow me to keep using the
radio controls
located in the steering wheel.
If I ever decide to get rid of the stock
unit, should I know something
about the Wiring harness, anything special
because my stock setup
has 6 speakers
Best
Henri
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Date:
Thu, 8 Jul 1999 10:44:23 -0500
From: "Brad Bedell" <bbedell@austin.rr.com>
Subject:
RE: Team3S: Stock Steering Wheel Radio control question
1. No, the only
thing you can do is modify the electronics on the steering
wheel buttons to
work with the aftermarket unit. (not an easy task)
2. Nope, just be sure to
buy the adapter harness so you don't have to cut
the dash
harness.
Brad
Check out my home page: http://home.austin.rr.com/overboost/
>
E-Mail: bbedell@austin.rr.com
ICQ# 3612682
Is there any aftermarket stereo that will allow me to
keep using the
radio controls located in the steering wheel.
If I ever
decide to get rid of the stock unit, should I know something
about the Wiring
harness, anything special because my stock setup
has 6
speakers
Best
Henri
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Date:
Thu, 8 Jul 1999 14:48:16 EDT
From: TurboDrvn@aol.com
Subject: Team3S: Need
TEC turbos phone #
Does anyone have the information (800 phone #, email
or website) for TEC?
I'm in the market for TEC turbos and possible
intercooler upgrade!
Thanks in advance!
Ahmed "AL-Crazy" -
'92 VR4
GReddy Profec B boost controller, GReddy turbo timer, Apex'i
sequential
b.o.v., SPI motorsport boost gauge & pillar pod, K&N
filtercharger, Alamo
Downpipe, Hi-flow cat, Borla exhaust, Magnecore 8.5mm
wires & new NGK spark
plugs gapped at .032, KVR Cross drilled rotors
with carbon fiber pads, Nitto
Power Extreme NT-555 (255/40/17's) tires,
Enkei RP-O1 17x9 (42mm offset)
racing wheels & Eibach Pro-Kit
Springs (not installed yet)
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Date:
Thu, 8 Jul 1999 15:55:58 +0100
From: "Robert Jerome Mengler" <RMENGLER@statoil.com>
Subject:
Team3S: 1994 3000gt SL: fried wires: battery just click-clicks
Hello
All!
I just bought a 1994 3000gt SL.
This is my first post to the list and
I already have a problem. I've
ordered the shop manual
(expensive)
but I am trying to figure out what the cylinder-shaped thing is
mounted on
the passenger side firewall
(under the hood): it is melted (and
white "electrical" stuff is splattered
on and around it) at the grey
clip
where 4 dark blue wires (with an orange stripe on each) leed into
it. I
think it might be the anti-lock
brake system (what's it
called, ABS?) or something. I was just sitting at
idle on a raining day
with the
windshield wipers, radio, AC and radar detector on and the radio
started
receiveing much interference
and humming loudly, then it shut on
and off, but this was after the radar
detector kept going in and out
of
different band modes. I turned the radar detector off and unplugged
it
and when I left and approached
the first stop the brakes kind of made a
deep noise as I braked and the
antilock brake light went on.
I kept the
radio off and managed to barely pull in the garage 10min. later
and I could
not start the car
then: all I got was the clicking sound that one hears with
a drained
battery. I checked the voltage with
the car off and got
about 12.12 volts (sorry, didn't do it with the key
on). Then I noticed
the fried wires and,
since this is only the 2nd time to have the hood open
and since the car had
been checked out by a
reliable mechanic before I
bought it, I assume the wires just got in that
state. Also, that white
gunky stuff
splattered around the melted clip looked fresh and "moist".
Do you think
this is something I can fix
myself when the gold-plated
(expensive!) manual arrives or will I ever be
able to tell myself WHY
it
happened so it doesn't happen again? I'm thinking of getting that
TMO
Datalogger myself, how else do
you read the codes on these
cards? I have not found a website yet that has
the codes or a picture
so
I can tell what this thing is. What do you all think about putting
some
diagrams/codes out on the website
and in maybe adding some type of
search tools to search headings of the
archive files? Thank
you
much in advance and I am looking forward to sharing tales of the 3000gt
in
action!!
Bob
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