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Team3S Digest
Saturday, June 19 1999 Volume 01
: Number
210
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Date:
Fri, 18 Jun 1999 19:36:58 -0400
From: "Michael Dorsey" <mdorsey@mindspring.com>
Subject:
Team3S: Exhaust for NT
I've got a friend that's looking at doing some
work on his Stealth NT.
I just wanted to get some clarification on some
exhaust issues. A lot
of people are saying that the stock exhaust flows
as well as most
aftermarket exhaust systems. They then continue on to
say that you'll
lose low-end torque due to the aftermarket exhaust. The
way I
understand it, is if the flow is the same, the torque/power should
be
the same. To use Borla as an example, does it actually flow
better
and would it be beneficial on a NT other than the weight
savings? The
extent of the mods would probably be intake, resonator
removal and
ram-air.
Michael
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Date:
Sat, 19 Jun 1999 01:30:42 +0200
From: "R.G." <robby@freesurf.ch>
Subject: Re:
Team3S: Insight from the new guy
> I like what the ERL system offers
in the way of control, but at 5 times
the
> price I think I'll go with
the Spearco if it works well enough for the
> street.
Check the
price out for the Spearco ... this is damn good !
http://www.cnw.com/%7eredline/waterinjectionkit.htm
For
sure a great bang for the buck and hp/$ !
Regards,
Roger
93'3000GT
TT
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Date:
Sat, 19 Jun 1999 01:51:28 +0200
From: "R.G." <robby@freesurf.ch>
Subject: Re:
Team3S: Water Injection
> Would the different compression ratio,
(also different
>between the SOHC and DOHC non-turbos), make it any more-
or less-
>appropriate for use on the NT's?
Such a system is
appropriate in any situation where too much heat is
generated and only low
octane gas is available. The more pressure in the
chamber the higher is the
temperature and therefore the higher the danger
for detonation. The turbos
produce this hot air as their efficiency becomes
degraded over 12 psi and the
discharge air become much hotter :( The
intercoolers cools it down but not
enough.
The temperature in the intake plenum on an NA is close to ambient
and
cooling it further down may help. But what will then be responsible for
the
more power ?
> Would such a system still beadvisable if I'm
able to add a supercharger to
my NT?
Not really. As the compression is
already high, not more than 6 maybe 9 psi
is the maximum when running an SC.
But remember a 220hp NA car running with
9 psi will put 350hp onto the
wheels. If the SC or other charger will not be
very efficient due to its
small blades or just the design, too much heat
will be produced. Instead of
an intercooler a WI system can them be
installed and will be very successfull
! And for $155 I'd never think of
installing an intercooler !
IMHO,
Nitrous is the right solution as there is no SC kit available for the
NAs
:(
Regards,
Roger
93'3000GT TT
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Date:
Fri, 18 Jun 1999 17:08:11 -0700
From: "Gross, Erik" <erik.gross@intel.com>
Subject:
Team3S: 60K Service Imminent; Advice requested
Ok, I'm getting close to
60K miles on my '95 3000GT (NA base model), and I
want to take care of the
required maintenance on a sunny weekend in a few
weeks. I looked
through the archives, and I've got a pretty good idea of
what I need.
However, I want to make sure I know what all I have to do, and
I definitely
want to make sure I have all the necessary parts. Please let
me know if
I'm missing anything here!
Thanks!
- --Erik
Parts I need to
get:
- ----------------------------------
6 NGK PFR-6J-11 Spark
Plugs (leave gap alone? I'll be <=2psi of
boost)
1 Intake Plenum
gasket
6 Spark Plug Wires( ? Stock ? Magnacore 8.5mm ?other)
1 K&N
FIPK (to replace air filter, duh :)
1 stock TB-MAS intake tube (so I can cut
up the old one...)
1 Power Antenna Mast (1 joint stuck, can't get it to
work)
5 quarts Mobil One Synthetic 10W30 Oil
1 pint GM Engine Oil
Supplement (EOS) (helps with LA ticking so far)
1 can BG 44K Fuel
Injector/Valve cleaner
1 OEM Oil Filter
1 Oil Drain Plug Crush Washer
1
Throttle Body cleaner (while TB's removed for the plugs...
what
kind?)
1 Fuel Filter (OEM? something else?)
Services
already done:
- -------------------------------------------
1 Timing Belt
(done 52K)
1 P/S A/C belt (done 52K)
1 Clutch, Pres. Plate, TO Bearing
(done 52k)
1 Water Pump (done 52K)
1 Change Coolant (done 52K)
1
Replace MT Oil (done 52K)
4 New Tires & Balancing (done 55K)
1 4-wheel
Alignment (done 55K)
Any timing adjustments?
Brakes seem ok, pads are
fine....anything to do?
CV Boots look ok... anything other than visually
inspect for cracks?
Struts dampen spring oscillation with I bounce the car up
and down...
anything else to look at? (don't really see any oil
around
struts...)
Tools I'll Need:
-
------------------------------------------
Floor jack
4ton
jackstands
ratchet & sockets
open and closed
wrenches
screwdrivers
U-Joint for ratchet?
Torque wrench
Spark plug
socket & extension bar
Modifications (if this makes any
difference in comments/recommendations):
-
------------------------------------------
- --current
245/50/ZR16
tires
6 rolls of Dynamat (nice and quiet inside)
Front speaker portion of
planned stereo (got side-tracked)
- --Planned
Aftermarket struts/springs
(when the stock ones go)
E-RAM 2psi dual-stage electric supercharger (maybe,
if I'm bored :)
1 or 1.5 Farad Capacitor (for stereo and
above)
-
------
----------
Erik
Gross
DuPont, WA
'95 Pearl White 3000GT 50k mi + ticking lash adjusters mod
-
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"To believe in the supernatural is not simply to believe that
after living a successful, material, and fairly virtuous
life
here one will continue to exist in the best-possible
substitute for
this world, or that after living a starved
and stunted life here
one will be compensated with all the
good things one has gone
without: it is to believe that the
supernatural is the greatest reality
here and now."
--T. S. Eliot
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Date:
Fri, 18 Jun 1999 21:59:13 -0500
From: "Phil Johnson" <dangerwit@mn.mediaone.net>
Subject:
RE: Team3S: 60K Service Imminent; Advice requested
I'd do the throttle
body gasket too, and maaaayyyybe the EGR as well. And
if you can, get a
telescoping magnet wand. You'll not regret it if a bolt
slips into that
engine compartment's nether regions. =)
And I gapped at .032" for
the plugs even though I don't have the mods yet,
and I have a tt, so maybe
you don't want to do that. Check the gap anyway.
Mine came gapped at
.050"!! I think the recommendation for NA is around
.040"
Good
luck,
*Phil
Phillip Johnson
Ceridian Employer
Services
612-894-3224 (w)
888-415-4894 (pager)
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From: owner-stealth-3000gt@list.sirius.com
[mailto:owner-stealth-3000gt@list.sirius.com]On
Behalf Of Gross, Erik
Sent: Friday, June 18, 1999 7:08 PM
To: 'Team3S
List'
Subject: Team3S: 60K Service Imminent; Advice requested
Ok,
I'm getting close to 60K miles on my '95 3000GT (NA base model), and I
want
to take care of the required maintenance on a sunny weekend in a
few
weeks. I looked through the archives, and I've got a pretty
good idea of
what I need. However, I want to make sure I know what all
I have to do, and
I definitely want to make sure I have all the necessary
parts. Please let
me know if I'm missing anything
here!
Thanks!
- --Erik
Parts I need to get:
-
----------------------------------
6 NGK PFR-6J-11 Spark Plugs (leave
gap alone? I'll be <=2psi of
boost)
1 Intake Plenum gasket
6 Spark
Plug Wires( ? Stock ? Magnacore 8.5mm ?other)
1 K&N FIPK (to replace air
filter, duh :)
1 stock TB-MAS intake tube (so I can cut up the old
one...)
1 Power Antenna Mast (1 joint stuck, can't get it to work)
5
quarts Mobil One Synthetic 10W30 Oil
1 pint GM Engine Oil Supplement (EOS)
(helps with LA ticking so far)
1 can BG 44K Fuel Injector/Valve cleaner
1
OEM Oil Filter
1 Oil Drain Plug Crush Washer
1 Throttle Body cleaner
(while TB's removed for the plugs... what
kind?)
1 Fuel Filter
(OEM? something else?)
Services already done:
-
-------------------------------------------
1 Timing Belt (done 52K)
1 P/S
A/C belt (done 52K)
1 Clutch, Pres. Plate, TO Bearing (done 52k)
1 Water
Pump (done 52K)
1 Change Coolant (done 52K)
1 Replace MT Oil (done
52K)
4 New Tires & Balancing (done 55K)
1 4-wheel Alignment (done
55K)
Any timing adjustments?
Brakes seem ok, pads are fine....anything
to do?
CV Boots look ok... anything other than visually inspect for
cracks?
Struts dampen spring oscillation with I bounce the car up and
down...
anything else to look at? (don't really see any oil
around
struts...)
Tools I'll Need:
-
------------------------------------------
Floor jack
4ton
jackstands
ratchet & sockets
open and closed
wrenches
screwdrivers
U-Joint for ratchet?
Torque wrench
Spark plug
socket & extension bar
Modifications (if this makes any
difference in comments/recommendations):
-
------------------------------------------
- --current
245/50/ZR16
tires
6 rolls of Dynamat (nice and quiet inside)
Front speaker portion of
planned stereo (got side-tracked)
- --Planned
Aftermarket struts/springs
(when the stock ones go)
E-RAM 2psi dual-stage electric supercharger (maybe,
if I'm bored :)
1 or 1.5 Farad Capacitor (for stereo and
above)
-
------
----------
Erik
Gross
DuPont, WA
'95 Pearl White 3000GT 50k mi + ticking lash adjusters mod
-
------
----------
"To believe in the supernatural is not simply to believe
that
after living a successful, material, and fairly
virtuous
life here one will continue to exist in the
best-possible
substitute for this world, or that after living a
starved
and stunted life here one will be compensated with all
the
good things one has gone without: it is to believe that
the
supernatural is the greatest reality here and
now."
--T. S. Eliot
-
-------------------------------------------------------------
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Date:
Sat, 19 Jun 1999 04:30:25 EDT
From: G3Stealth@aol.com
Subject: Team3S: Fuel
injectors ???
This is my first post so bear with me if this is a
dumb ass question. I have
a 92 R/T NON TURBO..could I change to bigger
injectors and fuel pump for more
power??
Dave.
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Date:
Sat, 19 Jun 1999 10:56:55 EDT
From: Czarcd@aol.com
Subject: Team3S: Tune-Up
Question
List Members,
I am about to perform a basic tune-up on my
91 Stealth RT TT. I am
going to attempt to do it myself. Just
wanted to make sure that there is
nothing that i will miss. Correct me
if I am wrong, but the only thing
involved in a basic Tune-Up is changing
the plugs and wires right? I believe
that the timing is controlled by
the computer so I don't have to adjust it.
Is there anything else that
I need to change or adjust. Any help would be
appreciated. Thanx
in advance.
Carlo
Black
91 Stealth RT Twin Turbo
3SI
#317
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Date:
Sat, 19 Jun 1999 12:45:31 -0500
From: Jeff Crabtree <wjcrabtree@sprintmail.com>
Subject:
Re: Team3S: VR4 vs RX7 Turbo?
Jeff A Williamson wrote:
> In a
couple of 0-100 runs, will one of us be embarrassed, or will it be at
all
> close? I seem to remember reading somewhere that the RX7 Turbos were
extremely
> quick to 60 mph. What do you think?
>
>
Jeff.
>
Beware of the rotary engine off the line. I've had
three RX-7's(all first gens), and
the engine spools up very quickly. My
91 TT(when it was running right) would have been
no match for even my old
(non-turbo) '85 GSL-SE at the word "GO"(of course after about
40 the RX would
have been a blip in the rearview).
I have in my hands a 1994 sales
brochure for the RX-7 it gives a HP/Weight ratio of
11.1:1. This
same brochure, interestingly, gives a list of other HP/Weight ratios
for
other cars for comparison's sake: The Ferrari 348, the Acura NSX,
the Nissan 300 ZX
Turbo, and (TA-DAH!!!) The MITUBISHI 3000GT VR-4. The
VR-4 weighed in heaviest with a
ratio of 12.6:1:( This brochure
also claims that the RX can do 0-60 in 4.9.
I also
have in my posession a Sales brochure for the '91 Stealth and it isn't
quite
as specific as far as the numbers are concerned. Thus I
quote: "(the) Stealth R/T
Turbo can reach 60 MPH in well under six
seconds."
We all know that driver skill is the
ultimate factor, so, give him hell!
Considering all of the mods it could be a
fair battle. Let us know what transpires.
- --
- -Jeff
Crabtree
'91 Stealth R/T
Turbo(#499)
'93
Wrangler 4.0L
Sport
St. Louis, MO
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Date:
Sat, 19 Jun 1999 19:49:44 EDT
From: Czarcd@aol.com
Subject: Team3S: Free
Stock
Hey guys,
This company is offering free stock for
members if and when they go
public. Please use my reference
#10285916. They give 1/2 a stock for every
referal. Let's try
it, nothing to loose.
Carlo
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