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Team3S Digest          Monday, June 14 1999          Volume 01 : Number 206




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Date: Sun, 13 Jun 1999 22:54:58 -0500
From: "Oskar" <swede@pclink.com>
Subject: Re: Team3S: 17" wheels wanted

Sorry for the double post - just need to mention that I don't want any tires

Thanks,
Oskar



>I am looking for a set of 17x8.5 or 17x9 aftermarket or stock rims that
will
>fit a 2nd gen Stealth TT.  Please reply with detailed description of the
>wheels.  If you have a scanned image that would be appreciated.  Include
>what model car they were used on.  Cosmetic flaws are ok as long as the
>wheels are perfectly round.
>
>Please reply privately to swede@pclink.com
>


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Date: Mon, 14 Jun 1999 08:10:40 -0400
From: "Micheal A. Whelan" <mwhelan@pdtech.com>
Subject: Team3S: Stealth Parts For Sale

From 91 Stealth ES White:
Hood - Repairable dent at front. $75.00
Front Bumper Cover - dented (minor) $100.00
  The two above items damage was covered by a bra - body man calls
repairable.
Side ground effects - Left and Right good condition $75.00
Rear Spoiler with built in brake light - good condition $75.00
All items price plus shipping and packaging at cost.
E-Mail direct if interested....Mike

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Date: Mon, 14 Jun 1999 09:20:29 EDT
From: Dskull@aol.com
Subject: Team3S: Ride Height

Could someone with a stock 93 VR4 do me a favor and measure the distance from
the top center of the wheel well's to the ground, both front and rear. I am
trying to determine how much lower my GC setup is and I forgot to do this
before changing the suspension.

Thanks - Dave S.  93 VR4
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Date: Mon, 14 Jun 1999 15:41:37 +0100
From: robby@freesurf.ch
Subject: Re: Team3S: Ride Height

Dave, do you mean measuring from the top center of the outside of the
fender ?? My car is currently back to bone stock including the stock
exhaust (it was almost 1cm higher in the rear due to the lighweight
Borla exhaust and missing spare tires, tools, etc.) and I can measure it
tonight (17" rims).

Later,
Roger
93'3000GT TT

> the top center of the wheel well's to the ground, both front and rear.


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Date: Mon, 14 Jun 1999 09:48:20 -0700
From: Chris Winkley <cwinkley@plaza.ds.adp.com>
Subject: RE: Team3S: Springs

Bob...

I doubt that the rubber shipping spacers, if left in, would raise the car. I
believe they would merely restrict the amount of spring compression when you
hit a bump.

You might be surprised at how much an inch increases the occurrence of
hitting your exhaust on speed bumps and the lip on driveways. It would be
great to hear from some of the RSR owners out there. Any clearance problems?

BTW...your car (give me a ticket red) looks great, in pictures and in
person.

Looking forward...Chris

- -----Original Message-----
From: Bob Forrest [mailto:bf@bobforrest.com]
Sent: Saturday, June 12, 1999 2:34 PM
To: Chris Winkley; stealth-3000gt@list.sirius.com
Subject: Re: Team3S: Springs (was: anyone there?)

I wasn't originally going to get lowering springs, but when I looked
at the pictures of our San Francisco gathering in January (BANG'99), I
realized just how high off the ground my car is compared to all the
other cars.  Mine looks like I've got truck stiffeners lifting the
chassis off the ground compared to the other cars in the line-up.  I
know they ship these cars with rubber spacers in the springs (that are
supposed to be removed by the dealer before sale), but I'm starting to
think that maybe they never took the spacers out on my car!  BTW, I
have an NT, so I don't have to worry about Active Aero clearance.
Just from looking at the pictures, do any of you guys think a 1" drop
will be enough for me?  I don't think so...  My pictures never got put
up, since they got buried somewhere in my move, but Chris Winkley's
and Scott Alcaide's are at:

www.bobforrest.com/Bang99CW.htm
www.bobforrest.com/Bang99SA.htm

Any feedback would be appreciated.  Mine is the '94 Red Stealth (on
the end in several photos...).

Best,

Forrest
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Date: Mon, 14 Jun 1999 12:35:54 -0500
From: "Matt Jannusch" <mattj@fallon.com>
Subject: Team3S: Spyder Springs and "Goose Sound"

I've noticed that most of the aftermarket suspension springs out there say
they don't fit the Spyder.  Does anyone know what the reason is?  I was
under the impression that the suspension was identical to the coupe.  Anyone
know of a company that makes Spyder-specific springs?  I'm not really
wanting to lower the car, just make it feel a little lighter (if possible).

Oh, and about the "goose" noise with the stock bypass valve, it is
definitely the valve doing it.  On my car, GT Alley forgot to hook up the
vacuum line to the stock CBV (after installing Magnacore wires) and only
hooked up a line to the Blitz blowoff valve...  No goose sound, but the
stock CBV will limit boost to only 10 psi without the vacuum hose hooked up.
Without the hose hooked up, there isn't any incoming pressure from the
vacuum line to help hold the valve closed.  With the valve leaking back into
the intake, there was no "goose" noise, but when I removed the Blitz valve
and reconnected the stock hoses to the CBV, I get plenty of goose noise now.

Basically, I don't think it is the tubes in the air intake path that make
the resonance, but rather a "fluttering" of the valve at part throttle.  I'd
personally leave the air tubes in the intake if you are using the stock CBV
(or DSM CBV) as they redirect the airflow towards the turbos to help keep
them spinning and also keep the turbulent air from the CBV away from the
airflow sensor.

- -Matt
'95 3000GT Spyder VR4

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Date: Mon, 14 Jun 1999 14:50:22 -0700
From: Chris Winkley <cwinkley@plaza.ds.adp.com>
Subject: Team3S: TEC warranty on 15Gs

Roger...

The folks at TEC didn't say they "wouldn't" honor their warranty. In fact,
I'm not sure how they would know if I was running at 1.0 bar or 1.5 bar.
They just said that running them above 1.0 bar "regularly" (what does that
mean?) would result in premature wear. Their warranty is only for a year, so
they'll get us in the end. TEC said some people are sending their 15Gs in
for a rebuild every SIX months, as a result of running high boost. Not a
good thing, as it costs a HEALTHY chunk of change for the rebuild.

Looking forward...Chris

- -----Original Message-----
From: robby@freesurf.ch [mailto:robby@freesurf.ch]
Sent: Friday, June 11, 1999 8:26 AM
To: 'Team3S'
Subject: Re: Team3S: Max bar/psi on 15Gs

> though the 15Gs will maintain boost at higher RPMs, they are NOT
> designed to stand up under higher boost. He claimed that 1.0 bar/15
> psi is all they should be pushed to without creating premature wear.
<snip>

But if TEC says not going over 1.0 bars you'll never get above the 415hp
mark. Does this mean TEC doesn't give any warranty if you run higher
boost ?

Regards,
Roger
93'3000GT TT ... wet.. soon, very wet :)
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Date: Mon, 14 Jun 1999 18:25:39 -0400
From: RPM Motorsport <rpmmotorsport@adelphia.net>
Subject: Team3S: Bee-R GTO

There's a couple of shots of the Bee-R GTO underhood shots at
http://www.autobuzz.com/gallery/gallery.cfm. It's located under the
Battle of the Imports. They seem to be using a front mount setup also.
They've eliminated the Y-pipe system.

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Date: Tue, 15 Jun 1999 01:00:30 +0200
From: "R.G." <robby@freesurf.ch>
Subject: Re: Team3S: Bee-R GTO

>Battle of the Imports. They seem to be using a front mount setup also.
>They've eliminated the Y-pipe system.

A FMIC normally eliminates the y-pipe. They did this very consequently with
relocating a lot stuff providing a good way to get cold air in. It also
seems that the ABS is removed to save weight and space. Furthermore, the
front exhaust part looks like a nice header design and for sure they have
some big turbos mounted in there !

What did they run and are more close-ups available ?

Thanks,
Roger
93'3000GT TT


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Date: Mon, 14 Jun 1999 16:09:52 -0700
From: Bruce Body <bbody@pacbell.net>
Subject: Re: Team3S: Bee-R GTO

He broke. Ran 20 something at 38 mph. I was running in this event, but I
don't see my picture :(

Bruce

"R.G." wrote:
>
> >Battle of the Imports. They seem to be using a front mount setup also.
> >They've eliminated the Y-pipe system.
>
> A FMIC normally eliminates the y-pipe. They did this very consequently with
> relocating a lot stuff providing a good way to get cold air in. It also
> seems that the ABS is removed to save weight and space. Furthermore, the
> front exhaust part looks like a nice header design and for sure they have
> some big turbos mounted in there !
>
> What did they run and are more close-ups available ?
>
> Thanks,
> Roger
> 93'3000GT TT
>
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Date: Mon, 14 Jun 1999 22:29:10 -0400
From: William Lynn Larsen <wlarsen@ibm.net>
Subject: Team3S: [Fwd: Fw: Replacing MAS with MAF on 3.0L DOHC NA (Dodge Stealth ES)]

Doesn't look like we will have a PMS for our cars any time soon.

Regards,
Lynn

William Lynn Larsen wrote:
>
> Doug,
>
> Thanks for the reply, but the engines in Stealth and Mitsu 3000GT are
> identical and are not from two different families.  there are 3
> configurations of the same engine family: there is the SOHC 3.0L, DOHC
> NA 3.0L and the DOHC Twin Turbo 3.0L. All three configurations can be
> found on both Dodge and Mitsu cars.
>
> This doesn't change you dilemma on getting a kit for 6 cyl. 3K/Stealth
> engines unfortunately. The concensus seems to be (on our list servers
> anyway) that the PMS is the more complete system which reports and
> controls ALL of the parameters we need to see and contol.  That is
> really too bad you don't have a system for us yet as there are a LOT of
> us looking for something integrated and complete.
>
> Regards,
> Lynn
>
> efi systems inc wrote:
> >
> > Our PMS systems are design for an engine family. The stealth\3000 has 2
> > differant engines one from dodge and one from mit. the mit engine uses
> > the same electronics as the turbo. Our mass replacement is designed as
> > part of he PMS computer and will not work on a 6cyl yet. I have tried
> > for 2 years to introduce one for the 3.0 but it keeps geting pushed back
> > I hope to have an universal mass kit by the end of the summer but who
> > knows it may slide back also. You might try the people at Best products
> > in detroit for help.
> >                 Doug W
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Date: Tue, 15 Jun 1999 01:54:41 -0400
From: RPM Motorsport <rpmmotorsport@adelphia.net>
Subject: Re: Team3S: Bee-R GTO

From my last knowledge of the Bee-R car, they were utilizing the GT2835 turbos in Japan
and she was running timeslips of about 11 seconds flat. But this is what they have
accomplished in Japan. I have also heard that they have broken transmissions in one day of
running from the excessive launchs they make. I think they are running a Skyline GT-R fuel
pump and their own ECU system and N-1 Style Exhaust system. This is from what I can recall
from my contacts in Japan.

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