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Team3S Digest          Tuesday, June 8 1999          Volume 01 : Number 201




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Date: Mon, 7 Jun 1999 19:59:36 -0400
From: "Bill Miller" <millebi@kw.igs.net>
Subject: Re: Team3S: Brake service

Hmmm... With all of the good advise I've seen I'm not too sure if this idea has any
merrit (no pun intended).

Have you thought about making a "wedge" from a good old 2"x4"? First get a piece of wood
that will fill the gap on a pair of the pistons (so they don't close up when you move the
other 2). Then using a pair of "tongs" from a fire place you may be able to push against
the other 2 pistons to get them to move appart. (reverse pliers approach).

Or do what I do with the 2 piston calipers. Leave the caliper on the car with the rotor
between the pads and use a screw driver to push the pads back. The other pad will push
against the rotor and not "pop out".

Bill
91 TT "Old Red"

On 7 Jun 99, at 13:22, Merritt wrote:

> I've changed pads and rotors on my car so many times I've scratched the
> calipers and housings to death.
>
> This last time, I used my gigantic channel locks (as usual) to push the
> calipers back in, and realized that I am scarring up the calipers and
> caliper housing something awful. (Good thing I haven't gotten Brad's Big
> Red Porsche calipers yet.)
>
> Problem is, when trying to push four calipers back, if you push one in,
> another comes out. One of the rubber boots came off and a caliper leaked
> brake fluid when it came out too far. Then, if you don't squeeze
> absolutely squarely on the caliper, it binds up and refuses to depress. Ya
> keep at this over and over until all four are fully depressed (me too, by
> that time), so the new pads will fit in. For me, this is like a 20-minute
> job on each caliper. The wizards down at the brake shop do it in 5
> minutes, tops. Squeeze, squeeze, and -- zap! -- they are all in.
>
> I thought about releasing pressure with the brake bleeder valve, but I've
> never seen anyone resort to this.  Besides, then I'd have to find somebody
> to help me bleed the brakes when the job is all over.
>
> The Old Poop brake shop knows how to change pads and rotors, but obviously
> I'm not doing it quite right. 
>
> Any advice on how to deal with recalitrant calipers would be greatly
> appreciated.
>
>
> Rich/old poop/Somebody stop me!
>
> p.s.:  I made up new scoops to gather up air (rectangular, 1 x 8 in.) from
> under the front valence, sealed up all the hose connections, and I
> fabricated a bracket to hold the air hose in place at the rotor (and keep
> it away from the half shaft boot). This should provide some good forced
> air cooling next time out. And now that little problem has been solved, I
> hope to install a water injection system in the air duct.
>
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Date: Mon, 07 Jun 1999 20:03:27 -0400
From: RPM Motorsport <rpmmotorsport@adelphia.net>
Subject: Re: Team3S: Brake service (OTC)

Check this web site out, it's OTC's Web site. It'll help you locate a local retailer and I
think they got some diagrams for parts.
Might be able to get a .pdf of the equipment you are looking for before buying it. Hope it
helps!

http://www.otctools.com/

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Date: Mon, 07 Jun 1999 20:08:14 -0400
From: RPM Motorsport <rpmmotorsport@adelphia.net>
Subject: Re: Team3S: Brake service

Checked it out. There's a snap shot of the caliper spanner and they do have pictures. You
need to search the product catalog and they do offer pictures.
http://www.otctools.com/frames-inforeq.phtml



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Date: Mon, 7 Jun 1999 19:24:38 -0700
From: "Bob Forrest" <bf@bobforrest.com>
Subject: Team3S: Admin Notice - Monthly Team3S Policy Statement

Let us reiterate what this list is for: 'Technical discussions about
the Stealth & 3000GT'. Period. 'Technical' includes anything to do
with the operating systems of the vehicle, but extends to
modifications, repairs, and replacement equipment. We have suggested
(on the rules page, if you wish to reread it) that the test for a
valid post to the list is 'whether or not that post is of interest to
most of us'. Posing a question to the list about 'peripheral' subjects
such as CD changers, radar, windshield ID kits, comments about a
specific dealer, where to buy replacement floormats, or neon chassis
lights should be considered 'marginally' off-topic, but still 'legal'.
But, other than answering with the address of a relevant resource,
ensuing discussions on such topics should be done PRIVATELY, or on
another list, because most of us don't want to hear about it.

We'd like to thank many of you listmembers for your invaluable
feedback, in letting us know that this is what you want the "Team3S"
list to be. We'll be posting this Policy Statement on a monthly basis
to keep new subscribers aware of what we all expect from one another.
Now, perhaps, we Admins can go back to just being listmembers, as is
our preference. Just like you, we want to "enjoy the ride".

For any questions you may have of all of us, you may reach us at:

owner-stealth-3000gt@list.sirius.com ,

or you may reach us individually at:

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Mikael Akesson, Stockholm, SWEDEN  vr4@bahnhof.se
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Date: Mon, 07 Jun 1999 23:41:54 -0400
From: josesini <josesini@engin.umich.edu>
Subject: Team3S: PARTS FOR SALE!

NEW Goodridge Stainless Steel Brake Lines (set of 8) DOT approved: $180
ATE Super Blue Brake Fluid: $10 (or FREE if bought with SS brake lines)

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Date: Mon, 7 Jun 1999 22:52:51 -0700
From: "Barry E. King" <beking@home.com>
Subject: RE: Team3S: Split Second MAF kit

Just to put this price in perspective, it isn't that far off of the
ill-fated MASC.  It retailed for around that price with an 83mm aitmeter and
similar functionality.  The MASC gave the operator a few more convenience
features (EGT, IDC, O2 voltage) but this Split Second kit does look like it
will be at least as good as the MASC.  It should/might? be better than a
VPC.

It would be interesting for a VPC experienced person to work with the Split
Second kit to get a more objective perspective.  The one thing I am a little
skeptical about the Split Second approach is that it appears to use a
similar tuning approach as the VPC.  You set the gain or ramp of the fuel
curve but not individual points along the way which can be used for
interpolation (like what the MASC and stock fuel system does).

I bet a combination of AFC and Split Second kit would work very well.  Many
will be watching for the results of this one I am sure.


Regards,

Barry

> -----Original Message-----
>
> Roger Gerl wrote:
> I already spoke with them somtimes ago and they said that the
> unit has never
> been tested on a 3S.
>
> Apparently, they now have a package made specifically for 3S.
>
> From: GT PRO [thegtalley@email.msn.com]
> Sent: Wednesday, June 02, 1999 1:24 PM
>
> The original design is produced by Split Second, www.splitsec.com
> <http://www.splitsec.com>  and is the BEST unit on the market for fuel
> control. You will get PERFECT driveability, and the unit is very easy to
> tune. The AFC does fuel control based on RPM, and does not take
> into account
> throttle position, baro-pressure, temp, and loading. The ARC-2GP DOES! and
> this is why it is FAR superior to anything else on the market.
> Check out the
> site, it has not been updated to reflect the new ARC-2GP kit yet
> but it will
> in the next week. The unit will also allow the use of injectors
> sizing from
> stock to 720cc's without changing chips, and will yield perfect results
> everytime, no matter who's injector you run. The price is $949.00 for the
> entire kit, which includes the ARC-2, the ARM-1 A/F meter, the 83mm "Big
> Bore" MAF meter, the MAF harness, K&N Mega filter, K&N adapter,  and
> complete install instructions for the 3000GT.

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Date: Tue, 8 Jun 1999 12:58:18 -0700
From: lehir@genesiscom.ch (Genesiscon Lehir)
Subject: RE: Team3S: Radar question

>>I never thought of using a boater's depth finder signal to confuse
>>radar.

Nope...Sonar vs Radar.

Depth finders are based on SONAR, while RADAR is RADAR.

Completely different wavebands, will NOT work


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Date: Tue, 8 Jun 1999 11:52:32 -0400 (EDT)
From: Andrew Burke <burke@pas.rochester.edu>
Subject: Team3S: Update on CD Changer after some more research...

I talked to some people at the local mitsubishi dealership, and they felt
that I should be able to control an aftermarket cd changer, but suggested
that I ask at someplace like Circuit City.  So I ended up at circuit city
and asked if my deck could control it.

The bottom line: the decks with the graphic eq (the one with the presets
for jazz, etc) CANNOT control ANY aftermarket cd changers.  I talked to
two seperate salespeople and they both said the same thing indepentandtly,
so I don't think they were trying to get my to buy a whole new system or
anything.

What this now leads to is this: I asked about putting in an aftermarket EQ
and CD deck.  They had all these crappy decks that looked real pretty with
blinking bars and whatnot, but not a per-band EQ.  When I finally got them
to understand that I wanted to be able to adjust things the way I like
them, rather than presets, they showed me their only eq, a pioneer.  I
asked them if I could use the amp that's in the car (which from other
discussions, I assume is seperate from my deck and under the passenger
seat), they told me no.  When I asked why, they said that it had a special
connection to the deck.  I responded with "So it's digital to the amp?"
and the salesperson said that it "uses some kind of logic."  Now, I don't
know what the hell he was trying to get away with there, but I have a hard
time buying that.  Another salesman told me that it "uses a low input"
which I could accept and would understand how that couldn't use an amped
signal from a deck/amp combo...

So basically what this comes down to is: can't control aftermarket cd
changers with a stock Mitsu deck w/ the graphical jazz, circuit city
doesn't hire people who really know what they're doing, or doesn't give
them all the same bull to get people to buy things that cost more.

I think i'll head to a local car audio shop sometime soon and see if I can
get an aftermarket cd and eq that'll put out an un-amped signal so I can
use the stock amp...

anyone with more experience with this, feel free to mail me off the
list if I should be going about this differently.

andy

- --------------------------------------------
1999: The people were lying on the ground. -- Douglas Coupland

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Date: Tue, 8 Jun 1999 11:52:35 -0500 (CDT)
From: Jeremy Ragan <grund@dfw.nationwide.net>
Subject: Team3S: RE: Update on CD Changer after some more research...

Andrew,
as a former 12-vold sales associate at Circuit City, I can confirm what
the sales people told you.  The point they were trying to get across is
that very very few OEM amplifiers can be used after you upgrade the stereo
to an fter-market unit.  Most of the time the problem resides in
cabline/connections which have no adapters and the rest of the time there
is indeed "logic" between the stereo and the amp in which they act like 2
computers tied together whith specific language to operate eachother.
Physically they are 2 seperate units, but technically they usually are
not.  It's also been my observation that the addition of any kind of
seperate EQ (except if we're talking adjustable crossovers, etc) will
decrease sound quality themselves.  I've seen many competition cars
without EQs.
IMHO!

Jeremy Ragan
Practitioners' Publishing Company
ITS-Sotware Engineer, Year2000 projects

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Date: Wed, 9 Jun 1999 09:41:10 +1200
From: Kevin Clark <Kevin.Clark@hnz.co.nz>
Subject: Team3S: Interior Replacement

My appologies if this is slighty off topic, but I feel
it may be of interest to those that enter competitions.

HybridRcr@aol.com (on the Stealth mailing list) has just
had his complete interior replaced (for a reported $1300)
which may be of interest to a few of you.  They seem to
have done a pretty complete job...

33KB Jpeg
http://www.geocities.com/SiliconValley/8443/interior.jpg

Discussions about the above picture should be directed
to the Stealth mailing list, as there is already a thread
started there, and it's not a particularly appropriate
topic for this list.

Cheers,
Kevin Clark
'91 GTO-VR4
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Date: Tue, 08 Jun 1999 19:57:33 -0400
From: "J. Stephen Gula" <loco3kgt@widomaker.com>
Subject: Re: Team3S: Interior Replacement

Took take Kevin's glory... I've got a complete set of the pics up on my site:

http://www.creepingdeath.com/Loco3KGT/HYBRIDRCR/

Sorry, Kevin, but I spent the last 30 minutes working on this, and I'm sure as hell
gonna get someone to go to it  ;)  There's also some info about it there...


- --Steve "Loco3KGT" Gula
- --www.creepingdeath.com


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