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1999 Volume 01 : Number
198
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Date:
Fri, 04 Jun 1999 13:17:10 -0500
From: Wayne <wala@hypertech-inc.com>
Subject:
Re: Team3S: VR-4 calipers on an N/A? anyone?
Dennis,
The
majority of japanese brake lines use a 10mm X 1.0 thread, so that
should'nt
be a problem. The calipers themselves are a different size
physically, and
the spindles are different between the AWD and FWD so you
will most likely
have to fabricate adaptor brackets. The vent
plates/protectors will also need
some custom brackets if you want to use
them. I THINK the lug bolt pattern is
the same so the rotors should slide
right on. Thats about all i
know......
Wayne
At 12:29 PM 6/4/99 , you
wrote:
>
>Not considering the offset issue, is it possible to
install VR-4 calipers
>on a non-VR4 3/S car?
>
>What about the
brake line? Is it a different size?
>I can't tell by the
pictures in the maunual if it is...
>
>Do you VR-4 owners out there
know what the size of the brake lines
are?
>
>Regards,
> Dennis
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Date:
Fri, 4 Jun 1999 14:58:18 EDT
From: MitsuVR41@aol.com
Subject: Team3S: All
three 3000GT manuals for sale 92-96
I have all three of the 1992-1996
3000GT manuals for sale. The
electrical, general,
and overhaul procedures books. I bought these this past
winter for
$100 a piece. I paid $300 for them. I know I got ripped, but at
any rate...I am willing to sell them all for $125 shipped. E-mail me
if you
are interested.
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Date:
Fri, 04 Jun 1999 13:09:46 -0500
From: Merritt <merritt@cedar-rapids.net>
Subject:
Re: Team3S: VR-4 calipers on an N/A? anyone?
At 01:29 PM 6/4/99
-0400, you wrote:
>Hello all,
>
> Here is a
question which I have been chewing on for a little while.
>
>Not
considering the offset issue, is it possible to install VR-4 calipers
>on
a non-VR4 3/S car?
I don't know all the answers to your question, but I
do know that the newer
(94 up) calipers require the larger 17 in. wheel to
clear the calipers.
I suspect that the cost of a new set of VR4 front
calipers is probably
comparable to that of Brad's Porsche Big Red setup
(about $900). You might
just want to jump right to that, instead.
Go to:
http://home.austin.rr.com/overboost/vr4pics.htm
for
a look-see. Click on the first "brake" icon to see a pic of Big Red.
Then,
check with Brad about price and availability for your car.
Rich/old
poop/94 VR4
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Date:
Fri, 4 Jun 1999 15:44:03 -0400 (EDT)
From: "Dennis G. Bretton " <dbretton@cs.uml.edu>
Subject: Re:
Team3S: VR-4 calipers on an N/A? anyone?
>
> I don't know
all the answers to your question, but I do know that the newer
> (94 up)
calipers require the larger 17 in. wheel to clear the calipers.
This is
true. However, assuming that the offset issue is set aside, can
it be
done?
If I had a set of VR-4 wheels, then the wheel issue should be
cleared.
Correct?
>
> I suspect that the cost of a new set
of VR4 front calipers is probably
> comparable to that of Brad's Porsche
Big Red setup (about $900). You might
> just want to jump right to that,
instead.
Thanks, but I will pass on the "Big Red". Wayne had
posted a while ago
that rebuilt VR-4 calipers (w/ a lifetime guarantee) are
available through
Autozone for a mere $55 a piece + core return
charge.
Regards,
Dennis
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Date:
Fri, 4 Jun 1999 15:51:43 -0400 (EDT)
From: "Dennis G. Bretton " <dbretton@cs.uml.edu>
Subject: Re:
Team3S: VR-4 calipers on an N/A? anyone?
> should'nt be a
problem. The calipers themselves are a different size
> physically, and
the spindles are different between the AWD and FWD so you
> will most
likely have to fabricate adaptor brackets.
Thank you. What are
spindles? I have changed out the brakes (+
calipers) on my
car before, but am unfamiliar with "spindles".
Will adaptor brackets
affect driveability/safety?
> The vent
>
plates/protectors will also need some custom brackets if you want to use
>
them.
I am not entirely certain what is meant by vent plates. Can
someone
elaborate?
The only things I can think of are the shims
that are inserted behind the
brake pads. They are vented...
?
> I THINK the lug bolt pattern is the same so the rotors should
slide
> right on. Thats about all i know......
I think the bolt
pattern is identical, too. Hopefully that is not an
issue.
Thank
you Wayne.
Regards,
Dennis
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Date:
Fri, 4 Jun 1999 15:47:37 -0400
From: Joshua <joshua@princelaw.com>
Subject:
Team3S: Questions about Injectors
Ok I have a friend who has RC 550cc
injector he will sell em for $250. Are
all injectors the same? Do
we need special ones for our cars? How will
this effect my gas
mileage? After I put these on, I could push more boost
then 14.5 pounds
correct? As long as I have an upgraded y-pipe, boost
controller, intake
and exhaust. Thanks for any and all info.
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Date:
Fri, 04 Jun 1999 15:52:58 -0400
From: William Lynn Larsen <wlarsen@ibm.net>
Subject: Re: Team3S:
wheel bolt spacing
Just saw this on TV yesterday. For 6 hole wheels
measure outside to
inside (or vice versa as it equals center-center) of
opposite stud
holes. For 5 hole, measure outside to outside skipping one
hole. This
gives you stud spacing.
Regards,
Lynn
Wayne
wrote:
>
> Jim,
> The lug spacing is 5 X 4.5". That's not the
same as stud circle dia though
> because the lug pattern is not measured
from center-to-center. I'm not sure
> how to convert it.
>
>
Here are the others;
> Stud hole - 19mm
> Center hole - 58mm at the
center cap "clipping surface", and 67mm where the
> wheel makes contact
with the hub.
>
> These dim. were taken from a 17" VR-4
wheel......Hope it helps.
>
> Wayne
>
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Date:
Fri, 4 Jun 1999 13:57:38 -0600
From: "Palamara, Peter" <pala@gwl.com>
Subject: RE: Team3S:
Questions about Injectors
You need a vpc to control the larger
injectors.
- -----Original Message-----
From: Joshua [mailto:joshua@princelaw.com]
Sent:
Friday, June 04, 1999 1:48 PM
To: 'stealth-3000gt@list.sirius.com'
Subject:
Team3S: Questions about Injectors
Ok I have a friend who has RC 550cc
injector he will sell em for $250. Are
all injectors the same? Do
we need special ones for our cars? How will
this effect my gas
mileage? After I put these on, I could push more boost
then 14.5 pounds
correct? As long as I have an upgraded y-pipe, boost
controller, intake
and exhaust. Thanks for any and all info.
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Date:
Fri, 4 Jun 1999 02:24:18 -0400
From: "Michael Dorsey" <mdorsey@mindspring.com>
Subject:
RE: Team3S: UPDATE on Transmission & dealer experience! (Very Long
Post)
While I was waiting for my clutch to be delivered, the dealer had
to hold
the tranny they ordered for me. While complaining that they
needed to get
it out of inventory, the slipped and told me it was eating
$2500 worth of
the parts they're allowed to keep in shop. Since it's
was a warranty repair
I'm assuming that's the dealer cost of a new
tranny.
Michael
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[mailto:owner-stealth-3000gt@list.sirius.com]On
Behalf Of Terry Swift
Sent: Thursday, June 03, 1999 23:11
To: stealth-3000gt@list.sirius.com
Subject:
RE: Team3S: UPDATE on Transmission & dealer experience! (Very
Long
Post)
Well Mesa was my problem, where he wanted to give me a "deal"
on my trashed
tranny and transfer case. He was willing to let me walk
out the door at
supposedly his cost - $5200.
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Date:
Fri, 04 Jun 1999 15:10:28 -0500
From: Wayne <wala@hypertech-inc.com>
Subject:
Re: Team3S: VR-4 calipers on an N/A? anyone?
This is true, but as a
follow-up, i posted some other stuff regarding the
Amateur zone
calipers.
1. They sent me the wrong side 3 times.
2. One of those
wrong sides was off a Stealth, so it didn't say
"Mitsubishi" on it.
3.
When i finally got the right side, it was a newer version, so it wouldnt
fit
behind my 17" wheel.
4. After all this, i found out they were only $125 at
the dealer. (rebuilt)
So, there you have
it.........
Wayne
At 02:44 PM 6/4/99 , you
wrote:
>Thanks, but I will pass on the "Big Red". Wayne had posted a
while ago
>that rebuilt VR-4 calipers (w/ a lifetime guarantee) are
available through
>Autozone for a mere $55 a piece + core return
charge.
>
>Regards,
> Dennis
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Date:
Fri, 4 Jun 1999 16:05:05 -0400
From: Joshua <joshua@princelaw.com>
Subject: RE:
Team3S: Questions about Injectors
I didn't think there was a vpc for the
94+ cars.
-----Original Message-----
From: Palamara, Peter [mailto:pala@gwl.com]
Sent: Friday, June 04,
1999 3:58 PM
To: 'stealth-3000gt@list.sirius.com'
Subject:
RE: Team3S: Questions about Injectors
You need a vpc to control the
larger injectors.
-----Original Message-----
From: Joshua [mailto:joshua@princelaw.com]
Sent:
Friday, June 04, 1999 1:48 PM
To: 'stealth-3000gt@list.sirius.com'
Subject:
Team3S: Questions about Injectors
Ok I have a friend who has RC 550cc
injector he will sell em
for $250. Are
all injectors the same?
Do we need special ones for our
cars? How will
this effect my gas
mileage? After I put these on, I could
push more boost
then 14.5
pounds correct? As long as I have an upgraded
y-pipe,
boost
controller, intake and exhaust. Thanks for any and all
info.
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Date:
Fri, 4 Jun 1999 22:27:31 +0200
From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Mikael_=C5kesson?= <vr4@bahnhof.se>
Subject: Team3S: Minor
Getrag problem
Hi
While driving to work this morning I smelled
burned oil but I didn't see any oil leak so I parked the car at a clean spot in
the garage. After work I found a small red puddle of redline oil... OH No
another Getrag problem!!! Crawled under the car (they sure are low :) and
noticed that the oil was coming from the transfer case.
Took the
car to a lift to check it out. I found out that the oil have been pressed
out through the oil level check hole in the transfer case. There is some problem
with the bolt because it's not possible to torque it but it doesn't seams to be
totally destroyed because I can screw it in and out but when I try to torque it
it just spins.
Any suggestions ?? Is it supposed to be this way? (guess
not)
Ha ha I probably have to buy a new transfer case because of a faulty
screw :)
The worst thing is that I was supposed to attend my first real
drag race tomorrow but I guess I can forget that now :(
/Mikael Akesson
http://www.3000gt.nu
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Date:
Fri, 4 Jun 1999 16:46:41 EDT
From: RTTURB0@aol.com
Subject: Team3S: need a new
engine
well guys something bad happened to my engine and i need a new
one.......or
atleast a new block................any one know where i can
find one and the
price????
Jake
91 R/T TT
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Date:
Fri, 4 Jun 1999 14:31:30 -0700 (PDT)
From: George Kuo <amkreadgto@yahoo.com>
Subject: RE:
Team3S: Questions about Injectors
An Apex AFC will do the job. But no one
answered his other question..
just any RC55o injectors will work on our cars?
is there a part #? even
the ones for eclipes/talons?? I would like to know
that too...
George
- --- Joshua <joshua@princelaw.com> wrote:
> I
didn't think there was a vpc for the 94+ cars.
>
> -----Original
Message-----
> From: Palamara, Peter [mailto:pala@gwl.com]
> Sent: Friday, June
04, 1999 3:58 PM
> To: 'stealth-3000gt@list.sirius.com'
>
Subject: RE: Team3S: Questions about Injectors
>
> You need a vpc
to control the larger injectors.
>
>
>
>
-----Original Message-----
> From: Joshua [mailto:joshua@princelaw.com]
>
Sent: Friday, June 04, 1999 1:48 PM
> To: 'stealth-3000gt@list.sirius.com'
>
Subject: Team3S: Questions about Injectors
>
>
> Ok I have a
friend who has RC 550cc injector he
> will sell em
> for $250.
Are
> all injectors the same? Do we need special ones
> for
our
> cars? How will
> this effect my gas mileage? After
I put these on,
> I could
> push more boost
> then 14.5 pounds
correct? As long as I have an
> upgraded
> y-pipe,
boost
> controller, intake and exhaust. Thanks for any
> and
all
> info.
> For subscribe/unsubscribe info, our web page
is
> http://www.bobforrest.com/Team3S.htm
>
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Date:
Fri, 4 Jun 1999 17:11:23 -0500
From: "Bill Davis" <wjdavis@inlink.com>
Subject: Re:
Team3S: Minor Getrag problem
Mikael,
Sounds to me like the threads
are stripped inside the transfer case.
You can get a rubber compression
stopper to replace it with.
Bill Davis 95 VR-4
- ---- Original
Message -----
From: Mikael Åkesson <vr4@bahnhof.se>
To: <stealth-3000gt@list.sirius.com>
Sent:
Friday, June 04, 1999 3:27 PM
Subject: Team3S: Minor Getrag
problem
> Took the car to a lift to check it out. I found
out that the oil have
been pressed out through the oil level check hole in
the transfer case.
There is some problem with the bolt because it's not
possible to torque it
but it doesn't seams to be totally destroyed because I
can screw it in and
out but when I try to torque it it just
spins.
>
> Any suggestions ?? Is it supposed to be this way? (guess
not)
>
>
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Date:
Fri, 04 Jun 1999 15:32:41 -0700
From: "Terry Swift" <tlswift@hotbot.com>
Subject: Re:
Team3S: need a new engine
If you go to the dealer, be looking in the
$4-5k range for a rebuild. A friend of mine just had his done by the
dealer - seems to have spun a bearing - and the damage came out to right at
$5k. they replaced the block, etc, but reused all the exterior parts like
the turbo's, intake, etc.
Give the 3si dealer sponsors a call for a more
objective price - then you have something to work with locally.
Also
might want to look at local H.P. shops / Eng. Repair places - they can probably
do you better than the dealer can.
- --
On Fri, 4 Jun 1999
16:46:41 RTTURB0 wrote:
>well guys something bad
happened to my engine and i need a new one.......or
>atleast a new
block................any one know where i can find one and the
>price????
>
>Jake
>91 R/T TT
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Date:
Fri, 4 Jun 1999 20:04:36 -0400
From: Roger Crawford <rcrawford@dbp-inc.com>
Subject:
Team3S: Stupid, Stupid, Stupid..VR-4 now held hostage
For all of you that
have messaged me in regard to the initial post I made
about how stupid I was
in trading my 1994 VR-4 off on a 99 Neon R/T that my
wife wanted, I
appreciate the kind words, and the fact that no one reminded
me that I am
indeed an idiot..
To let everyone know the current status, the contract
has been reviewed by a
team of attorneys, and it has been made quite obvious
that the sale terms,
and subsequently the contract, are invalid, due to the
"oversight" on the
dealers part to sign the contract. Therefore the Neon, and
all associated
papers, excepting the sale documents were returned to the
dealer yesterday.
HOWEVER, the Dealer is now holding both the Neon, and
my VR-4, and refusing
to return the Mitsubishi, in what appears to the casual
observer the hopes
that they in some way, shape, or form, shove this deal
down my throat.(what
will prove to be a big mistake) I'm now effectively out
an automobile, cash,
and am more than a little aggravated. They are not only
holding the car
hostage, but at last report, had dealer tags on it and were
driving it also.
If you'd like to tell them that you think they're
scum, please send messages
to: McDonough Dodge at mcddodge@cfw.com
Thanks!!
Roger
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Date:
Fri, 4 Jun 1999 20:25:49 EDT
From: Aso8@aol.com
Subject: Re: Team3S: Stupid,
Stupid, Stupid..VR-4 now held hostage
Roger, send them a certified letter
with the current mileage on your VR-4 and
tell them they are now renting
your car until it's returned. Further, that by
driving it they will have to
repair any damage they do and that they are not
authorized to drive it. They
may get mean and try to destroy it before you
get it back. Document the
miles and demand they stop driving it. Take a
witness and look at the
odometer today.
You're a lucky guy to be in an informed position to consider
getting it back.
A deal is a deal on paper or by hand shake. The dealer did
nothing wrong
(imho) so emailing complaints is not fair. Good luck. A
Neon???
Arty 91 VR-4
In a message dated 6/4/99 8:03:20 PM Eastern
Daylight Time,
rcrawford@dbp-inc.com
writes:
<< ubj: Team3S: Stupid, Stupid, Stupid..VR-4 now held
hostage
Date: 6/4/99 8:03:20 PM Eastern Daylight Time
From: rcrawford@dbp-inc.com (Roger
Crawford)
Sender: owner-stealth-3000gt@list.sirius.com
Reply-to:
stealth-3000gt@list.sirius.com
To:
stealth-3000gt@list.sirius.com
('stealth-3000gt@list.sirius.com')
For
all of you that have messaged me in regard to the initial post I
made
about how stupid I was in trading my 1994 VR-4 off on a 99 Neon
R/T that my
wife wanted, I appreciate the kind words, and the fact that
no one reminded
me that I am indeed an idiot..
To
let everyone know the current status, the contract has been reviewed by
a
team of attorneys, and it has been made quite obvious that the sale
terms,
and subsequently the contract, are invalid, due to the
"oversight" on the
dealers part to sign the contract. Therefore the
Neon, and all associated
papers, excepting the sale documents were
returned to the dealer yesterday.
HOWEVER, the Dealer is now
holding both the Neon, and my VR-4, and refusing
to return the
Mitsubishi, in what appears to the casual observer the hopes
that they
in some way, shape, or form, shove this deal down my throat.(what
will
prove to be a big mistake) I'm now effectively out an automobile,
cash,
and am more than a little aggravated. They are not only holding
the car
hostage, but at last report, had dealer tags on it and were
driving it also.
If you'd like to tell them that
you think they're scum, please send messages
to: McDonough Dodge
at mcddodge@cfw.com
Thanks!!
Roger
>>
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Date:
Fri, 4 Jun 1999 20:31:39 EDT
From: RTTURB0@aol.com
Subject: Team3S:
aftermarket block
Does anyone know of a place that makes blocks for our
cars other than
Mitsu????...............im trying to find the best way to
fix my car(which is
not running right now) the dealership hear says i need a
whole new engine but
only the block is what was harmed.....the engine only
has 48K miles on them
and is the engine that came with the car.........so
all my other parts except
pistons should be in good shape...........any help
on this matter and i will
be very
greatful.............
thanx
Jake
91 R/T TT
http://members.aol.com/rtturb0/enter.html(under
massive construction)
Blitz SSBC, K&N Cone Filter
Charger............
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Date:
Fri, 4 Jun 1999 21:12:18 -0400
From: Roger Crawford <rcrawford@dbp-inc.com>
Subject:
RE: Team3S: Stupid, Stupid, Stupid..VR-4 now held hostage
>>A deal
is a deal on paper or by hand shake. The dealer did nothing wrong
(imho) so
emailing complaints is not fair.<<
Agreed, only to a point. I
originally offered to return the car to the
dealer, and pay mileage, and any
"reasonable" charge to undo the deal. I
would have happily written the
check, and considered it a mistake. It was
when I was patronized by the
dealer offering $2k less than wholesale book on
the Neon, and marking the
Mitsu up $1500 making it $8500 to get the car back
that it becomes
unreasonable. The title work was not done (it was a holiday)
and it would
have been nothing more than a test drive that they were paid
for. The car
would have been able to still be sold as new, and this whole
issue wouldn't
exist.
Instead the greed factor appears to have kicked in, and when
greed overcomes
business sense, and people get screwed, that it's an
issue.
The dealer is now holding a 99 Neon, $2500 in cash, and an
immaculate 94
VR-4. You telling me that he's now not doing anything wrong? If
you say yes,
I'll have to respectfully disagree.
Regards,
Roger
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Date:
Fri, 4 Jun 1999 18:19:53 -0700
From: "Art Charette" <k6xt@arrl.net>
Subject: Team3S: Manuals
CD
I have a long list of buyers for the Manual CD. I've offered it to
the
earliest reply email and that's in the works now. I'll keep all your
emails
until the deal is complete.
Thanks for your
interest.
For those who missed out, and still want one, it's for sale
from the
supplier. Start a thread, that's how I found out about it, someone
on the
list has the URL.
Art Charette
k6xt@arrl.net
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Date:
Fri, 4 Jun 1999 21:32:02 EDT
From: MitsuVR41@aol.com
Subject: Re: Team3S:
need a new engine
F.E.D foreign engine depot in California can usually
get low mileage Japanese
import engines for $3500 or so. The engines
are complete with turbos. they
usually have around 15 to 20 k
miles. good luck.
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Date:
Fri, 4 Jun 1999 21:27:44 -0400
From: Joshua <joshua@princelaw.com>
Subject: RE:
Team3S: need a new engine
Do these come with the 13 g
turbos???
-----Original Message-----
From: MitsuVR41@aol.com [mailto:MitsuVR41@aol.com]
Sent: Friday,
June 04, 1999 9:32 PM
To: stealth-3000gt@list.sirius.com
Subject:
Re: Team3S: need a new engine
F.E.D foreign engine depot in California
can usually get low
mileage Japanese
import engines for $3500 or
so. The engines are complete
with turbos. they
usually have
around 15 to 20 k miles. good luck.
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Date:
Fri, 4 Jun 1999 21:34:15 EDT
From: RTTURB0@aol.com
Subject: Re: Team3S: need a
new engine
In a message dated 6/4/99 8:33:06 PM Central Daylight Time, MitsuVR41@aol.com
writes:
<< F.E.D foreign engine depot in California can usually
get low mileage
Japanese
import engines for $3500 or so. The
engines are complete with turbos. they
usually have around 15 to
20 k miles. good luck. >>
do u have a number or webpage for
them????
Jake
Tulsa, OK
91 R/T TT
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Date:
Fri, 4 Jun 1999 23:29:32 -0400
From: "Stealth" <cirrus@shore.intercom.net>
Subject:
Re: Team3S: Stupid, Stupid, Stupid..VR-4 now held hostage
Roger, if you
have a WIFE, now's the time to let her do the dirty work.
Let her call
the dealership, tell 'em you (that *$%&^#$@) sold what was HER
car to
avoid (alimony/divorce settlement/maintenance) whatever... The
dealership
does NOT want to get in the middle of a nasty "domestic dispute"
at any
costs...doesn't matter if you are married, just get a suitable female
to go
along with it and play "vengeful." Let her mention something about
"that
worthless piece of paper" you gave them for a title, and mention the
lengths
you went to after it was TOTALLED to get a "clean" Virginia title
(there's a
story here, but I won't go into it) and watch how quick they
decide to give
it back...
Or send her to "drop by" the dealership, after "noticing the
car on the back
lot," and see what kind of story they give her regarding its
availability...
And next time, lay off the jungle juice before cruising
down Rt. 7.
Robyn
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Date:
Fri, 04 Jun 1999 23:47:58 -0400
From: Bill Wagner <wagner@sprynet.com>
Subject: Re:
Team3S: Minor Getrag problem
The threads are stripped (either the bolt or
the threads on the case).
You should be able to re-thread it with a tap and
die (or have it done)
and replace the bolt with a new one (may need to be
slightly over
sized). YOU NEED TO FLUSH THE TRANSFER CASE SEVERAL TIMES AFTER
YOU DO
THIS TO GET ALL THE METAL SHAVINGS OUT. It shouldn't really cost
that
much to do.
Good Luck,
Bill Wagner
Mikael Åkesson
wrote:
>
> Hi
>
> While driving to work this morning I
smelled burned oil but I didn't see any oil leak so I parked the car at a clean
spot in the garage. After work I found a small red puddle of redline oil... OH
No another Getrag problem!!! Crawled under the car (they sure are low :) and
noticed that the oil was coming from the transfer case.
>
> Took
the car to a lift to check it out. I found out that the oil have been
pressed out through the oil level check hole in the transfer case. There is some
problem with the bolt because it's not possible to torque it but it doesn't
seams to be totally destroyed because I can screw it in and out but when I try
to torque it it just spins.
>
> Any suggestions ?? Is it supposed
to be this way? (guess not)
>
> Ha ha I probably have to buy a new
transfer case because of a faulty screw :)
>
> The worst thing is
that I was supposed to attend my first real drag race tomorrow but I guess I can
forget that now :(
>
> /Mikael Akesson http://www.3000gt.nu
>
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Date:
Sat, 05 Jun 1999 00:02:51 -0400
From: Bill Wagner <wagner@sprynet.com>
Subject: Re:
Team3S: Stupid, Stupid, Stupid..VR-4 now held hostage
Roger,
I
know you're NOT going to like what I'm going to say, but maybe you
should
offer them a $500.00 settlement. Car dealerships, like them or
not, have to
make money too (I'm not a car dealer, by the way), and it's
quite possible
that, particularly in this age of internet commerce, they
had a potential
buyer already lined up for the VR4 even before your
purchase of the NEON was
complete.
I was considering trading my '93 RT/TT for a 98 'Vette a few
months ago,
and when the sales manager and I started talking money, he made a
few
calls and made a few internet contacts, and within about 15 minutes
had
a buyer for my car lined up in North Carolina (he also got pretty
pissed
when I backed out of the deal 3 days later!!)...but he never
took
possesion of my car.
In their eyes, $500.00 won't be much, but
it's better than nothing!!
Good Luck,
Bill Wagner
Roger
Crawford wrote:
>
> For all of you that have messaged me in regard
to the initial post I made
> about how stupid I was in trading my 1994
VR-4 off on a 99 Neon R/T that my
> wife wanted, I appreciate the kind
words, and the fact that no one reminded
> me that I am indeed an
idiot..
>
> To let everyone know the current status, the contract
has been reviewed by a
> team of attorneys, and it has been made quite
obvious that the sale terms,
> and subsequently the contract, are invalid,
due to the "oversight" on the
> dealers part to sign the contract.
Therefore the Neon, and all associated
> papers, excepting the sale
documents were returned to the dealer yesterday.
>
> HOWEVER, the
Dealer is now holding both the Neon, and my VR-4, and refusing
> to return
the Mitsubishi, in what appears to the casual observer the hopes
> that
they in some way, shape, or form, shove this deal down my throat.(what
>
will prove to be a big mistake) I'm now effectively out an automobile,
cash,
> and am more than a little aggravated. They are not only holding
the car
> hostage, but at last report, had dealer tags on it and were
driving it also.
>
> If you'd like to tell them that you think
they're scum, please send messages
> to: McDonough Dodge at mcddodge@cfw.com
>
>
Thanks!!
>
> Roger
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Date:
Sat, 05 Jun 1999 00:41:12 -0400
From: William Lynn Larsen <wlarsen@ibm.net>
Subject: Re: Team3S:
aftermarket block
Jake,
Just what happened to the car?? Is the
block, indeed, ruined or is there
a possibility of rebuilding it??? Let us
know as much detail as possible
and one of us may be able to help you
out.
Regards,
Lynn
RTTURB0@aol.com wrote:
> so all my other
parts except pistons should be in good shape
> any help on this matter and
i will be very greatful.............
>
> thanx
> Jake
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Date:
Fri, 4 Jun 1999 23:12:05 -0700 (PDT)
From: George Kuo <amkreadgto@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re:
Team3S: aftermarket block
Hey Jake,
I know how u feel.. my
crankshaft broke last year and needed a whole
lower block rebuilt. The
dealer wanted $6,000 to rebuild just the
lower block. I ended up going to an
aftermarket shop and rebuild the
engine with forged rods and forged pistons,
plus upgrade 13G turbos for
about the same price. But be sure u go to a
reputable place that had
done work on our cars before. Taking out and part
the engine need some
expertise.
You said ur block is damaged..
internal?? or did the block crack??
George
- --- RTTURB0@aol.com wrote:
> Does anyone
know of a place that makes blocks for
> our cars other than
>
Mitsu????...............im trying to find the best
> way to fix my
car(which is
> not running right now) the dealership hear says i
>
need a whole new engine but
> only the block is what was harmed.....the
engine
> only has 48K miles on them
> and is the engine that came
with the car.........so
> all my other parts except
> pistons
should be in good shape...........any help
> on this matter and i will
> be very greatful.............
>
> thanx
>
Jake
> 91 R/T TT
> http://members.aol.com/rtturb0/enter.html(under
>
massive construction)
> Blitz SSBC, K&N Cone Filter
Charger............
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Date:
Sat, 5 Jun 1999 02:40:24 EDT
From: SoCoDrnkr@aol.com
Subject: Re: Team3S:
need a new engine
sounds familiar. I blew a rod on my 1991 stealth
ES. It is around 9K to get
a new engine. This is under extended
warranty. I may have to get rid of my
ride. The engine is going to
cost more than I paid for the car. My car was
just getting cherry
to. I was getting ready for the purchases of major
upgrades. If
I do get rid of my ride, due to the warranty people paying my
8K and after
the pay-off, I may go with a truck for now. The only reason for
this
is work. I am going to get another Stealth later but opting for a 94+
R/T TT. I don't however know where to get the new engine at.
This is
through the dealer. If anyone finds one give my a ring. Also
check
WWW>MSRECYCLING.COM. If it isn't that then it is WWW.MSRECYCLE.COM.
Later
\Dan
bdnww 1991 S ES
(Broke Dick No Workee Workee)
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Date:
Sat, 5 Jun 1999 02:46:58 EDT
From: SoCoDrnkr@aol.com
Subject: Re: Team3S:
Stupid, Stupid, Stupid..VR-4 now held hostage
Hey there is a letter frpom
me to them. won't be pretty. I'll forward to 3S
Dan
BDNWW 1991
Stealth ES
(Broke Dick No Workee Workee)
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Date:
Sat, 05 Jun 1999 10:18:08 +0200
From: "R.G." <robby@swissonline.ch>
Subject: Re:
Team3S: ADMIN NOTE : Stupid, Stupid, Stupid..
Guys, please send this
information DIRECTLY to Roger ... and please don't mix
him up with me
!
It's possible that I'll trade my 93'3000GT ... but for a 99'3000GT
:))
We all feel sorry about him but please keep the thread off the
list.
Thanks,
Roger G., Switzerland
for the Admins
PS:
Roger, please add something to your name too...for identifying purposes
:))
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Date:
Sat, 5 Jun 1999 04:28:55 EDT
From: RTTURB0@aol.com
Subject: Re: Team3S:
aftermarket block
From what the dealer said..........dad looked at it
while i was at
work.......the main bearing went bad and as the crank spun in
an odd way it
caused one or 2 of the pistons to scratch up the cyl.
walls..........and well
id like to bore it out some but dont have the money
to do anything just
yet..............
Jake
91 R/T TT(waiting for
new block)
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Date:
Sat, 5 Jun 1999 11:58:51 -0700
From: lehir@genesiscom.ch (Genesiscon
Lehir)
Subject: Team3S: Portefields Brakes WORKING e-mail
FWIW, after
trying to e-mail them for about one week....I finally phoned
them
For
a 92 Dodge Stealth RT/TT (they know it as a dodge VR4...)
Rotors, front,
cryoed $190 each (JBR 582)
Rotors, rear, cryoed $190 each (JBR
585)
Pads, front $99 (531)
Pard, rear $69 (532)
and the WORKING
e-mail is.......(drum roll, please....)
timg@globalpac.com
Zee
you
Henri (quadri-turbo man....)
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Message-----
From: owner-stealth-3000gt@list.sirius.com
[mailto:owner-stealth-3000gt@list.sirius.com]On
Behalf Of
RTTURB0@aol.com
Sent:
Saturday, 5. June 1999 01:29
To: stealth-3000gt@list.sirius.com
Subject:
Re: Team3S: aftermarket block
From what the dealer said..........dad
looked at it while i was at
work.......the main bearing went bad and as the
crank spun in an odd way it
caused one or 2 of the pistons to scratch up the
cyl. walls..........and
well
id like to bore it out some but dont have the
money to do anything just
yet..............
Jake
91 R/T TT(waiting
for new block)
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Date:
Sat, 05 Jun 1999 15:43:10 +0200
From: "R.G." <robby@swissonline.ch>
Subject: Re:
Team3S: Questions about Injectors
RC usually takes Bosch injectors (my
720cc are) or Densos, depending on the
application. Ask RC or check out their
homepage for more information. Also if
buying some have them cleaned and
matched if they are not new from RC.
The S-AFC works with +/-15% but the
new S-AFC (same name) one has +/-30% range
and more rpm steps beside other
features. A VPC becomes necessary with larger
injectors and also when you
want to eliminated the MAS. The VPC does convert
your car into speed-density
and not only tweaks the air flow signal !
Of course milage can be
degraded when you start to dump fuel in. More boost
needs more and GOOD fuel.
You can cool the combustion chamber with fuel and
therefore run more boost as
this will prevent heavy knock but you're wasting the
energy in the fuel. With
550, an AFC and bigger fuel pump (yes!) you should be
able to run 1.1 - 1.2
bars. But definitely use an EGT meter as well as an A/F
meter to be safe
;-)
Regards,
Roger G.
- -----------------------
Roger Gerl,
Switzerland
93'3000GT TwinTurbo untuned for another week :(
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Date:
Sat, 5 Jun 1999 13:46:28 EDT
From: MrX2111@aol.com
Subject: Re: RE: Team3S:
Stupid, Stupid, Stupid..VR-4 now held hostage
94vr4 for a
neon?????????????????? I am missing something here.
X
PS:Is it a
rally edition special turbo neon?
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Date:
Sat, 05 Jun 1999 11:27:23 -0700
From: "Terry Swift" <tlswift@hotbot.com>
Subject: Re:
Team3S: need a new engine
Dan,
Don't know who your warranty co. is
going thru, but somebody's either lying or gouging (maybe both), if they're
telling you $9k. Like I mentioned in my previous post, a buddy of mine got
the FULL shortblock & labor to rebuild with the rest of the parts for under
$5k. Call Conicelli or Tallahasse Mitsu for a price - I think you'll see
the motor is not that expensive (UNLESS YOU'RE REALLY WANTING TO DITCH THE CAR).
- --
On Sat, 5 Jun 1999 02:40:24 SoCoDrnkr
wrote:
>sounds familiar. I blew a rod on my 1991 stealth ES.
It is around 9K to get
>a new engine. This is under extended
warranty. I may have to get rid of my
>ride. The engine is going to
cost more than I paid for the car. My car was
>just getting cherry
to. I was getting ready for the purchases of major
>upgrades.
If I do get rid of my ride, due to the warranty people paying my
>8K and
after the pay-off, I may go with a truck for now. The only reason for
>this is work. I am going to get another Stealth later but opting
for a 94+
>R/T TT. I don't however know where to get the new engine
at. This is
>through the dealer. If anyone finds one give my a
ring. Also check
>WWW>MSRECYCLING.COM. If it isn't that
then it is WWW.MSRECYCLE.COM.
>Later
>\Dan
>bdnww 1991 S ES
>(Broke Dick No Workee
Workee)
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