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Date:
Thu, 27 May 1999 22:58:24 -0500
From: "Matt Jannusch" <mattj@fallon.com>
Subject: RE: Team3S:
Ebay #109024551
> I saw the item on ebay and wondered if it would be
benefit to all of
> us. It's a microfiche of 3000GT parts from
1991-1997 including
> illustrations. I'll bid on it if someone can
come up with a way to
> convert the microfiche to a file or document.
Maybe it could be included
> on the manual on CD?? Please give me
some input.
A slide scanner might be able to scan the microfilm at a good
enough
resolution to run it through Acrobat Writer or whatever Vineet used to
make
the Manual CD. Otherwise, a lot of the microfilm readers at the
library
near me have printers built in to print what you are
viewing.
It'd sure be nice to walk in with a part number or be able to
easily phone
in any part to one of the mail-order parts vendors. I've
sometimes spent a
lot* of time waiting for a part to get looked up on the
computer.
- -Matt
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Date:
Fri, 28 May 1999 04:03:38 -0500 (CDT)
From: BDLSOO7@webtv.net (chris hill)
Subject:
Re: Team3S: Dual battery question
FYI, for all of you looking for a good
battery, try the extreme series
at wal mart, i was battery shopping the other
day, and used thier
suggestion computer. it gave a list of suggested
batteries, and on that
list was a heavy duty extreme series that had 925 cca
! a big thumbs up
for all you stereo buffs. since i installed it, everything
works so much
better, i can hit a 1200 watt bass note with no headlight
dimming! power
windows work faster, ect. go check it out. just a
friendly suggestion,
thanks, chris
hill
91,green vr4
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Date:
Fri, 28 May 1999 14:05:42 -0700
From: lehir@genesiscom.ch (Genesiscon
Lehir)
Subject: RE: Team3S: brake rotors
>>I've been talking to
a few folks about rotors and calipers and a couple of
them said
>>
that the benefits of cryogenic treatment was lost the first time you
heat
them up to that >>nice cherry red state.
Nope, sorry, but
not true.
As soon as the cryoed is done, the MOLECULAR structure of the
metal is
CHANGED....so it's much more stable.
Of course, you can still
damage your rotors if you have them glowing red,
and then wash the
car.....
On the other hand, I saw cryoed 1919 barrels glowing red...then
cooled by
pouring WATER on them....no warp, and guns was still amazingly
accurate.....
I also have my Glock18 barrel cryoed....and got 100.000 9mm
rounds through
it, often full auto (it's nicely warm in winter....). It
stills shoots a
postcard at 200 yards
Henri (with a LOT of interesting
hobbies)...
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Date:
Fri, 28 May 1999 09:27:51 -0400
From: William Lynn Larsen <wlarsen@ibm.net>
Subject: Re: Team3S:
Dual battery question
I have had an alarm that sets itself, runs all the
time and I have never
worried about running anything at anytime, in any
combination and am on
my 3rd batter (93 ES). I would only be on the 2nd, but
the side mounts
on my last one started leaking.
My advice: get the
highest cold cranking amps battery you can find that
will fit in the
car.
Regards,
Lynn
Phil Johnson wrote:
>
> In my
car I have an Alpine SEA-8080 alarm system. Aside from it being
too
> touchy, it isn't armed when in my garage, and still the battery acts
"low"
> when I go to start it later on. Again, I'm just going to try
a new battery...
>
> ..but I'm not up on my battery lore. Is
diehard the way to go, are there
> other things to look at? Do spark
plug types make a difference, or rather
> the plug wires?
>
>
*Phil <--- electrically challenged
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Date:
Fri, 28 May 1999 07:50:18 -0700
From: "Jim Berry" <fastmax@home.com>
Subject: Re: Team3S:
brake rotors
> >>I've been talking to a few folks about rotors
and calipers and a couple of
> them said
> >> that the
benefits of cryogenic treatment was lost the first time you heat
> them up
to that >>nice cherry red state.
>
> Nope, sorry, but not
true.
>
> As soon as the cryoed is done, the MOLECULAR structure of
the metal is
> CHANGED....so it's much more
stable.
====================================================================
I
understand the object of cryogenic treatment is to alter the molecular structure
but I'm
getting information that says for normal use it's a good thing, but
were not talking normal
use here. 100,000 rounds through your 9mm is not
abnormal, 100,000 rounds in 10 minutes
is, and the heat generated may well
alter the moleculer structure.
The same with the brakes, normal use might get
them to several hundred degrees while
racing will get them to eighteen
hundred degrees. I guess my question is, do race teams use
cryogenic
treatment or not??
Jim Berry
>>> 93 stealth TT
---- "arrest me
red"
K&N FPIK -- Magnicore/.034" --- Blitz
SSBC
[soon] --- GAB struts --- Stillen SS
lines
GC/Eibach 550# F/330#
R
Gtech --- 0-60 = 4.75 -- 1/4 = 13.3 @ 110 mph
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Date:
Fri, 28 May 1999 08:02:49 -0700
From: "Jim Berry" <fastmax@home.com>
Subject: Re: Team3S:
GC group purchase
> We already have the 20 people. I'm pretty
sure it's over.
>
> jeff
> '95 Mitsubishi Spyder VR-4
>
'90 Mitsubishi Eclipse
GSX
===================================================================
My
point was that we have twenty people on the list but they must call GC and place
an
order for the purchase to be official. I was told that all the people had
NOT called to
confirm their purchase. Nothing gets done untill all 20
respond.
In addition, I'm not sure 20 is a limiting number. On most group
purchases a minimum
is established but you can call in later and get on the
list.
Jim berry
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Date:
Fri, 28 May 1999 17:33:18 +0200
From: "R.G." <robby@swissonline.ch>
Subject: Re:
Team3S: GC group purchase
Why not calling GC and asking them directly. I
was told that there are 25 people
on the list and I placed my order with the
price of 20+ people.
The GP organizer is not on this list, so talk
directly to the guy at GC and
mention DSM GP.
Regards,
Roger
93'3000GT TT
> My point was that we have twenty people on the
list but they must call GC and place an
> order for the purchase to be
official. I was told that all the people had NOT called to
> confirm their
purchase. Nothing gets done untill all 20 respond.
> In addition, I'm not
sure 20 is a limiting number. On most group purchases a minimum
> is
established but you can call in later and get on the list.
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Date:
Fri, 28 May 1999 17:35:01 -0700
From: lehir@genesiscom.ch (Genesiscon
Lehir)
Subject: RE: Team3S: brake rotors
>>normal use it's a
good thing, but were not talking normal use here.
I'm not
either
>>100,000 rounds through your 9mm is not
abnormal
Ahem, the average Police officer shoots 200 rounds a year, a
most...:-)
say that 100.000 is "normal" to beretta, or
colt...LOL
>>, 100,000 rounds in 10 minutes is,
Even at 1200
RPM....it's difficult to achieve :-)
>>I guess my question is, do
race teams use cryogenic treatment or not??
Yes, they DO !!
Not
only on brakes, but on engine parts as well.and during a race, the
get
hot.
Anyway, I'm about to buy porterfields X-drilled, cryoed front
rotors.....(IF
they answer my e-mails)...as soon as I get them....I'll go to
the
autobahn....we'll see
Henri
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Date:
Fri, 28 May 1999 09:08:34 -0700
From: "Jim Berry" <fastmax@home.com>
Subject: Re: Team3S:
GC group purchase
> Why not calling GC and asking them directly. I was
told that there are 25 people
> on the list and I placed my order with the
price of 20+ people.
>
> The GP organizer is not on this list, so
talk directly to the guy at GC and
> mention DSM
GP.
=================================================================
I
guess I'm not making myself very clear here :-(
Twenty people said they
wanted the GC parts. Twenty people have "not " followed up
on
their commitment to buy.
The group purchase is on hold untill everybody
on the list calls GC and makes their purchase.
I was told by GC that they
[ GC ] are waiting for the rest of the people to sign up.
No people ---
no product [ at $300 anyway ].
Jim Berry
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Date:
Fri, 28 May 1999 14:18:48 -0500
From: Merritt <merritt@cedar-rapids.net>
Subject:
Re: Team3S: Ground Control Report
Dear gang:
At 2:15 pm on Friday,
I checked with GC about our purchase.
He has been contacted by 45 people so
far, and has more than the required
20 orders.
He expects to start
shipping our systems in a week or so.
We are all getting the upgraded
upper rear spring perch and longer rear
spring, same as the system used by
Chuck and Mike Willis.
He's still taking orders ($300 special deal for a
group purchase, or 25%
off the regular price), so if you want to get in on
it, call 530-677-8600.
Rich/old poop/94 VR4
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Date:
Fri, 28 May 1999 16:15:57 -0700
From: Jeff Schwartz <jeff.schwartz@citicorp.com>
Subject:
Team3S: Check Engine Light Codes
Does anyone know how to read the check
engine light
codes in a 95 VR4? I can't find the info in the
manual. My check engine light came on and it feels
like it's
running on 5 cylinders. I put a timing
light on all the wires to find
that one is not firing.
It fires once in a while. I guess either
the wire or
plug has a short or maybe an open.
I put the
old wire and plug back on the coil and
grouded the base of the plug.
It had great spark, and
the timing light was flashing away, so it's
definately
the new Magnecors or the plug. My damn luck.. it's
one
in the back! There goes my 3 day weekend.
Please cc the following
e-mail account if you have some
info for me coz I won't be able to check
this account
from home.
jeffvr4@erols.com
Thanks,
Jeff
- --
Jeff Schwartz
1995 Panama Green
Pearl VR4
Borla, K&N FIPK, Magnecors
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Date:
Fri, 28 May 1999 22:22:11 +0200
From: "R.G." <robby@swissonline.ch>
Subject: Re:
Team3S: Check Engine Light Codes
> the new Magnecors or the
plug. My damn luck.. it's
> one in the back! There goes my 3
day weekend.
Try to largen the contact in the boot (on the coil side). It
helped on my
Gremlins problem :)
Good luck,
Roger
-
-----------------------
Roger Gerl, Switzerland
93'3000GT TwinTurbo
(Animale Rosso)
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Date:
Fri, 28 May 1999 13:32:34 -0700
From: "Jim Berry" <fastmax@home.com>
Subject: Re: Team3S:
Ground Control Report
:Rich wrote
>
> At 2:15 pm on Friday,
I checked with GC about our purchase.
> He has been contacted by 45
people so far, and has more than the required
> 20
orders.
================================================================
Thanks
--- I guess I talked to the wrong guy. I'm glad to see progress being made
:-)
Jim berry
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Date:
Fri, 28 May 1999 18:07:54 -0400
From: Jason Barnhart <phnxgld@erols.com>
Subject: Re:
Team3S: Dual battery question
Chris,
Besides the battery, is
your electrical system stock? I don't wanna burst your
bubble, but 1200
watts sounds a little high. Consider the fact that volts x amps
=
watts, and the fact that even a good car audio amplifier is only 75%
efficient, if
that. For an amp to be cranking out 1200 watts, that'd
mean that your looking at
drawing 120+ amps of current from your electrical
system for just the stereo. There's
just no way the stock system,
particularly the alternator, could handle that. Btw, if
ya wanna
measure what the amp is actually putting out, do this... Get a volt
meter,
crank the system up. Measure how many volts the amp is cranking
out. Take that number
and square it, then divide it by the impedance
the amplifier is seeing. If you have two
four ohm woofers wired in
parallel, the amplifier would be seeing a 2 ohm load.
For
example: I got curious about what my Phoenix Gold MPS 2240 (24 x 2,
1/4 ohm stable) was
putting out, so I measured it one day. I had two
JBL 1200 GTIs (4 ohm wired in parallel
= 2 ohm) running mono. I cranked
it up, and measured almost 28 volts. I didn't have a
digital meter, so
it might have actually gone higher than 27.75 volts. 27.75 x 27.75
=
770. Since the amplifier was seeing a 2 ohm load I divided 770 by 2
and got 385 watts.
This was done with the stock alternator and beefed up
battery, 850 cca I believe, in my
Beretta. My headlights dimmed
severely and I watched the voltage drop well under 11
volts at the battery
several times. Needless to say, I put 3 alternators in the car
before I
got rid of it, one even went up in flames and I cursed the fact that I had
to
waste my coke to put out the fire, the car wasn't worth it. This was
roughly a 40 amp
draw on the electrical system, nowhere near the 120+ amps
you'd need to support 1200
watts.
Jason
chris hill
wrote:
> FYI, for all of you looking for a good battery, try the
extreme series
> at wal mart, i was battery shopping the other day, and
used thier
> suggestion computer. it gave a list of suggested batteries,
and on that
> list was a heavy duty extreme series that had 925 cca ! a
big thumbs up
> for all you stereo buffs. since i installed it, everything
works so much
> better, i can hit a 1200 watt bass note with no headlight
dimming! power
> windows work faster, ect. go check it out. just a
friendly suggestion,
> thanks, chris
hill
>
91,green vr4
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Date:
Fri, 28 May 1999 22:57:05 -0700
From: "Omar Malik" <ojm@iname.com>
Subject: Team3S: FW: My
latest acquisition
Recieved this on dragnet. thought it would be
appropriate to post here.
Omar
92 r/t
- -----Original
Message-----
From: John Kohn [mailto:altvid@mindspring.com]
Sent:
Friday, May 28, 1999 8:07 PM
To: stealth@dragnet.dragnet.com
Subject:
My latest acquisition
To all and sundry,
I recently purchased
a 1991 3000GT VR-4 with 23K miles. The car looks brand
new (it is the pearl
white paint with dark grey and red interior) and has
the original 3000GT
floor mats. But that isn't the reason for this post.
While driving from
Pittsburgh, PA to Huntsville, AL I had occasion to open
it up on Interstate
71 between Columbus and Cinncinati at around 4 a.m. A
State Trooper coming
the other way turned on his lights and came after me.
He told me that he had
me at 167 mph!!!! Now, I know that no stock VR-4
will go that fast and since
that was only the fourth day I had driven the
car I felt that the Trooper was
mistaken (he showed me his radar readout -
167). As I'm an ex-cop I got away
with a warning and a smile.
Upon returning to Pittsburg I took the car to
the dealer to find out why
this particular car produced speeds that high (the
pedal wasn't on the
floor). They put the car on the computer and told me that
the engine had
been worked on and they thought it was probably an engine from
Japan,
rather than a stock mill from the U.S. As I bought the car from a
private
party, I went back to him and asked the obvious question "What had
been
done to the engine?". With a wry smile on his lips, I was informed that
the
engine is one of 14 that were specially built by Mitsu Racing for
test
purposes in 1994. He had been in Japan in 1995 and had picked up the
engine
(wouldn't say how) and installed it in the VR-4.
To make a long
story short, he informed me that the engine is rated at
460HP and has a
metal-link timing belt and several other goodies that he
isn't sure of (at
least the technical details) including a Jack Knife
5-speed transmission, and
beefed up drive train.
So my question is this - do any of you know
anything about this engine? I'm
already familiar with Mr. Knife's
transmissions and drive train mods, but
the engine has me
stumped.
Thanx for the help (if any is forthcoming).
John
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at:
http://www.mindspring.com/~altvid
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Date:
Sat, 29 May 1999 00:54:53 -0400
From: Jason Barnhart <phnxgld@erols.com>
Subject: Re:
Team3S: FW: My latest acquisition
Most interesting. Forget about
the engine for a sec though, we can make our cars go
fast with ease.
What about the transmission and drive train???
Jason
> To make
a long story short, he informed me that the engine is rated at
> 460HP and
has a metal-link timing belt and several other goodies that he
> isn't
sure of (at least the technical details) including a Jack Knife
> 5-speed
transmission, and beefed up drive train.
>
> So my question is this
- do any of you know anything about this engine? I'm
> already familiar
with Mr. Knife's transmissions and drive train mods, but
> the engine has
me stumped.
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