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Team3S Digest           Sunday, May 23 1999           Volume 01 : Number 186




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Date: Sat, 22 May 1999 12:16:28 -0400
From: William Lynn Larsen <wlarsen@ibm.net>
Subject: Team3S: FYI: Stock Spring Rates

This was from the manuals
92-94 Stealth
Front FWD AWD
Spring constant N/mm (Ibs/in.) 29 (162) 38 (212)
Rear
Spring constant N/mm (Ibs/in.) 34 (190) 28.0 (157)

91 3K GT
Front FWD AWD
Spring constant N/mm (Ibs/in.) 30+/-1.5 (168+/-8) 39+/-2 (218+/-11)
Rear
Spring constant N/mm (Ibs/in.) 35+/-1.8(196+/-10.1)
35+/-1.8(196+/-10.1)

92-99 3K GT
Front FWD AWD
Spring constant N/mm (Ibs/in.) 30 (168) 39 (218)
Rear
Spring constant N/mm (Ibs/in.) 35 (196) 28.0 (157)

I was thinking of adding 10% for the GC Eibachs; whadaya think??

Regards,
Lynn
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Date: Sat, 22 May 1999 22:14:08 +0200
From: Mike Chapleski <mike.chapleski@ibm.net>
Subject: Team3S: Picture in Turbo Mag.

On page 41 of the May issue of Turbo, there is a crappy B&W picture of
the engine of a VR-4.  This car was at the Tokyo Auto Salon Show.  Does
anyone know anything about this setup.  It looks like they moved the
turbos up to the top of the engine and reworked all the plumbing.

Why is is that the one picture  of a Stealth/3000GT is these magazines
is always so terrible.  But on the other hand I got to see yet ANOTHER
picture of the HK$ Skyline.

Mike C.
0018
'95 Stealth RT TT

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Date: Sat, 22 May 1999 19:15:20 -0400
From: RPM Motorsport <rpmmotorsport@adelphia.net>
Subject: Re: Team3S: Picture in Turbo Mag.

I have the picture of last years on my website from the Auto Salon, It's also on the
Bozz Speed Site.
http://home.adelphia.net/~rpmmotor/
http://www.bozz.co.jp

New products out by Bozz Speed are an enlarged Radiator and new front end, basically the
front end for 94+'s with the vent intake in the bumper.
Regarding the springs without tension on the coilover's. The Bozz Spee coilover use a
similar setup as the Ground Controls, where there is no tension on the springs except
the weight of the vehicle. This does take some getting used to. Since I've hit some
pretty hard bumps with this suspension already. It leads to a lot of clanging when the
springs land back on the perch, but it allows u to quickly adjust the collars for height
without removing the wheels. I'm yet to experience a situation where the spring fully
misaligns, I think this is usually prevented by having collars which cause the spring to
slip back into a certain position when the load is placed back on them.
Similarly Motorcycles use a coilover setup which are very similar in idea to the ones
being offered.
The only other alternative to this is to utilize the dual spring coilovers, not sure who
offers them, but I think Intrax is using them, where you would have constant load on the
spring and you can alter spring rates with the combination of the dual spring rates. But
this provides constant load and makes it much more time consuming to adjust. The basic
function of coilover suspensions is to provide a quick adjustable means to changing
things.
Another thing that I seem to have noticed with the ground control setup is how they use
a collar that locks with little hex screw, I seem to like how other companies use two
collars which lock each other sorta like a friction lock.

Mike Chapleski wrote:

> On page 41 of the May issue of Turbo, there is a crappy B&W picture of
> the engine of a VR-4.  This car was at the Tokyo Auto Salon Show.  Does
> anyone know anything about this setup.  It looks like they moved the
> turbos up to the top of the engine and reworked all the plumbing.
>
> Why is is that the one picture  of a Stealth/3000GT is these magazines
> is always so terrible.  But on the other hand I got to see yet ANOTHER
> picture of the HK$ Skyline.
>
> Mike C.
> 0018
> '95 Stealth RT TT
>
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Date: Sat, 22 May 1999 20:16:14 -0400
From: William Lynn Larsen <wlarsen@ibm.net>
Subject: GC adjust collar locking; Was Re: Team3S: Picture in Turbo Mag.

This is easy enough to rectify: just order another collar then you can
lock the two collars against each other AND set the set-screwS.  Then
there is no way that puppy would move.

Regards,
Lynn

RPM Motorsport wrote:
> Another thing that I seem to have noticed with the ground control setup is how they use
> a collar that locks with little hex screw, I seem to like how other companies use two
> collars which lock each other sorta like a friction lock.
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Date: Sun, 23 May 1999 03:35:26 -0600
From: David J Moravek <david.moravek@juno.com>
Subject: Re: Team3S: HELL YEAH!!!!!! THE VR-4 IS BACK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

GREAT CONGRATS WITH THE FIX - I AM HAPPY TO HEAR YOUR BACK WITH THE
SPEEEDSTERS AGAIN... I guess I'll have to check those plugs and wires
too.  

Hey were any of the plug wires on wrong or was it just the fact you
changed the plugs and wires?  Why did you gap at .35 I thought the stock
gap was .41 or .44?


David Moravek

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Date: Sun, 23 May 1999 09:08:22 -0400
From: William Lynn Larsen <wlarsen@ibm.net>
Subject: Re: Team3S: HELL YEAH!!!!!! THE VR-4 IS BACK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Here are the book specs on spark plugs:

All 3S
Spark plug gap: 1.0 - 1.1 mm (.039 - .043 in.)
(But we have seen on list that those running higher
 than stock boost usually go to a lower gap ~.034)

NOTE: For the platinum plug, use care not to damage
the platinum tip. Never try to adjust the plug gap.

Install the spark plug and tighten to 25 Nm (15 ft.lbs.)

Plugs (we've also seen that highly modified turbo cars
       will go 1-2 colder)
Stealth SOHC/DOHC 
     NGK BPR5ES-11/PER6J-11   DENSO  W16EPR11/PK20PR-P11
ALL 3K GT            
     NGK PFR6J-11   DENSO PK20PR-P11

David J Moravek wrote:
>
> GREAT CONGRATS WITH THE FIX - I AM HAPPY TO HEAR YOUR BACK WITH THE
> SPEEEDSTERS AGAIN... I guess I'll have to check those plugs and wires
> too.
>
> Hey were any of the plug wires on wrong or was it just the fact you
> changed the plugs and wires?  Why did you gap at .35 I thought the stock
> gap was .41 or .44?
>
> David Moravek
>
> Work E-mail  - David.J.Moravek@wcom.com
> Home E-mail - David.Moravek@juno.com
>
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Date: Mon, 24 May 1999 01:45:24 +1200
From: Kevin Clark <Kevin.Clark@hnz.co.nz>
Subject: RE: Team3S: HELL YEAH!!!!!! THE VR-4 IS BACK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

> Hey were any of the plug wires on wrong or was it
> just the fact you changed the plugs and wires?
> Why did you gap at .35 I thought the stock gap was
> .41 or .44?

Correct, stock plug gap is 0.044", however it is
suggested that you run at 0.035" if you have a
VR4 and are planning to increase your boost pressure
(via a boost controller, etc) as the smaller gap
is required when running higher than stock pressure.

Cheers,
Kevin Clark
'91 GTO-VR4

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Date: Sun, 23 May 1999 09:39:46 -0700
From: "Barry E. King" <beking@home.com>
Subject: RE: Team3S: HELL YEAH!!!!!! THE VR-4 IS BACK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

The platinum plugs can be adjusted without problems, you just have to do it
correctly.

Don't beat on them, get it close to right the first time, use a proper plug
gap tool if the gap needs to be opened, be careful not to damage the much
thinner center electrode and so on.  No problems.

The -11 refers to 0.045" plug gap which is useless at boost levels much
above stock.


Regards,

Barry

> -----Original Message-----
>
> Here are the book specs on spark plugs:
>
> All 3S
> Spark plug gap: 1.0 - 1.1 mm (.039 - .043 in.)
> (But we have seen on list that those running higher
>  than stock boost usually go to a lower gap ~.034)
>
> NOTE: For the platinum plug, use care not to damage
> the platinum tip. Never try to adjust the plug gap.
>
> Install the spark plug and tighten to 25 Nm (15 ft.lbs.)
>
> Plugs (we've also seen that highly modified turbo cars
>        will go 1-2 colder)
> Stealth SOHC/DOHC
>      NGK BPR5ES-11/PER6J-11   DENSO  W16EPR11/PK20PR-P11
> ALL 3K GT
>      NGK PFR6J-11   DENSO PK20PR-P11

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