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Digest Tuesday, May 18
1999 Volume 01 : Number
181
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Date:
Mon, 17 May 1999 12:42:47 +0200
From: Roger Gerl <robby@swissonline.ch>
Subject: Re:
Team3S: Water injection
> Can the DOHC NA Stealths benefit from these
water injection systems?
No, only if you find a way to increase pressure
in the chamber. WI systems are
useful to cool down air and the mixture
in the chamber making a supercharged
system much more effective as well as
prvrnting detonation due to low
octane
fuel.
Regards,
Roger
93'3000GT TT
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Date:
Mon, 17 May 1999 12:51:15 +0200
From: Roger Gerl <robby@swissonline.ch>
Subject: Re:
Team3S: Ground Control Group Purchase!
Thanks for the info Jack
!
Can somebody please give me some more information, pictures or links to
the
Ground Control stuff ? I'd like to put this information onto the GP page
as well
as I'm interested too (the SUV look in the rear must
go)
Regards,
Roger
> DSM list is having a Group Purchase
on Ground Control
> adjustable/lowering spring
> suspension kits,
such as Barry King and several other List Members have
> already and have
been raving about! WE 3S people CAN join the buy!
> Usual
price is $400, they are down to $325 now. If 6 more people
> join,
price will be $300 each kit. I am getting this for my '94; if
> you
are interested, contact ASAP:
>
> Joe Kou af3976@wayne.edu
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Date:
Mon, 17 May 1999 05:25:38 -0400
From: Jason Barnhart <phnxgld@erols.com>
Subject: Re:
Team3S: Ground Control Group Purchase!
Roger, not sure what else I can
add, but the link is:
http://www.ground-control.com/
Jason
Roger
Gerl wrote:
> Thanks for the info Jack !
>
> Can somebody
please give me some more information, pictures or links to the
> Ground
Control stuff ? I'd like to put this information onto the GP page as
well
> as I'm interested too (the SUV look in the rear must
go)
>
> Regards,
> Roger
>
> > DSM list is
having a Group Purchase on Ground Control
> > adjustable/lowering
spring
> > suspension kits, such as Barry King and several other List
Members have
> > already and have been raving about! WE 3S
people CAN join the buy!
> > Usual price is $400, they are down to $325
now. If 6 more people
> > join, price will be $300 each
kit. I am getting this for my '94; if
> > you are interested,
contact ASAP:
> >
> > Joe Kou af3976@wayne.edu
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Date:
Mon, 17 May 1999 08:16:07 EDT
From: "Rice-Burner Crusher" <stealth_es@hotmail.com>
Subject:
RE: Team3S: battery warning light
That would be the light.. Why
does it look like a battery when it's for the
washer
fluid...
>From: Kevin Clark <Kevin.Clark@hnz.co.nz>
>Reply-To:
stealth-3000gt@list.sirius.com
>To:
"'stealth-3000gt@list.sirius.com'"
<stealth-3000gt@list.sirius.com>
>Subject:
RE: Team3S: battery warning light
>Date: Mon, 17 May 1999 13:38:28
+1200
>
> > The battery warning light goes on when I go through
turns.
> > It doesn't stay on, it only flickers and stays on for
a
> > second at the most.
>
>Was it orange or red? In
the center of the console or to
>the right... I ask because the
symptoms sound like your
>washer fluid level. Have a look at item
"G" at this site
>http://beam.to/GTO_Manual to determine if
it is indeed the
>washer fluid.
>
> > I looked at the
voltage indicator on the dash on the far
> > right, and it looked
normal. It said it was at 14V.
>
>Hmm... I do not have one of
these in my GTO, I assume that
>this is a Stealth? If it is not the
washer fluid then you
>will need to check all terminals,
etc...
>
>Cheers,
>Kevin Clark
>'91 GTO-VR4
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Date:
Mon, 17 May 1999 08:19:32 EDT
From: "Rice-Burner Crusher" <stealth_es@hotmail.com>
Subject:
Re: Team3S: battery warning light
It's not the parthenon looking
light.. I've seen that one before and this
one is not it. I
looked at a picture of the warning lights, and it is for
the washer
fluid.. I thought it looked like a battery symbol.. Oh
well..
Thanks you guys!
>From: "Bill" <compren@lightspeed.net>
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>Subject:
Re: Team3S: battery warning light
>Date: Mon, 17 May 1999 00:14:13
-0700
>
>Chances are it's the Parthanon (sp?) looking icon (looks
like a Greek
>building) it's the coolant light. Mine's been going on
and off for the
>last
>month or so even though the coolant is a
nice green and filled to the fill
>line. There's no way this light
goes off somehow knowing that the fluid is
>2 years old is there?
I've heard that there is a sender unit that often
>fails causing this
problem...
>
>
> > If it's over on the right side, near the
bottom, and is yellow, then
> > it's your coolant ondicator light. fill
up the overflow tank to correct
> > the
problem.
>
>
>
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Date:
Mon, 17 May 1999 09:42:05 EDT
From: TurboDrvn@aol.com
Subject: Re: Team3S:
Dealer experience & transmission questions.
In a message dated
5/16/99 1:22:27 AM Central Daylight Time, nxiong@juno.com
writes:
<<
someone on the message boards was experimenting w/putting in a corvette
6
spd. >>
Thank you gentlemen (Nick, Darc, Joshua &
Terry), for all your input.
I believe the 6 speed Corvette transmission
is also manufactured by Getrag;
This German based company is found in our
cars, Supras, Corvettes and
Camaros. They seem to dominate the
high Performance car market.
I'll keep you all & the list posted with
my progress.
Ahmed "AL-Crazy" - '92 VR4
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Date:
Mon, 17 May 1999 09:52:41 -0400
From: Roger Crawford <rcrawford@dbp-inc.com>
Subject:
RE: Team3S: Dealer experience & transmission questions.
I may be
mistaken, but I believe the Corvette boxes are from ZF not Getrag.
They do
however suffer the same fate, if there's an internal problem, the
dealers are
instructed to replace the trans assembly.
Roger
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Subject:
Re: Team3S: Dealer experience & transmission questions.
>>I
believe the 6 speed Corvette transmission is also manufactured by
Getrag;
This German based company is found in our cars, Supras, Corvettes and
Camaros. They seem to dominate the high Performance car
market.<<
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Date:
Mon, 17 May 1999 09:49:24 EDT
From: TurboDrvn@aol.com
Subject: Re: Team3S:
Ground Control Group Purchase!
Hi Jack,
I am interested in this group
purchase. The only problem is that I
have just (within the last 2
months) purchased the Eibach Pro-Kit Springs for
$269. If I can sell
them ASAP; I will be a candidate for your group
purchase. Please keep
me informed of any ideas. OR, could I ship my Springs
to Ground
Control (since they use Eibach springs anyway) and have them
upgraded to
their product? Maybe a $35 charge? (to compensate for the price
I purchased my Eibachs and the group purchase price of $300)?? Anyway,
just
an idea; please keep me posted.
By the way, have you read my
recent post on: Subject: Dealer experience and
transmission questions?
I'd appreciate some input from you. Thanks!
Take care,
Ahmed
"AL-Crazy" - '92 VR4
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Date:
Mon, 17 May 1999 09:57:33 EDT
From: TurboDrvn@aol.com
Subject: Re: Team3S:
Dealer experience & transmission questions.
In a message dated
5/17/99 8:52:03 AM Central Daylight Time,
rcrawford@dbp-inc.com
writes:
<< I may be mistaken, but I believe the Corvette boxes are
from ZF not Getrag.
They do however suffer the same fate, if there's an
internal problem, the
dealers are instructed to replace the trans
assembly.
Roger >>
I believe that might be the
case, Roger. I wasn't too sure if the
Corvettes had a
Getrag or not; Either way, same fate!
Thanks,
Ahmed.
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Date:
Mon, 17 May 1999 09:57:25 EDT
From: TurboDrvn@aol.com
Subject: Re: Team3S:
Dealer experience & transmission questions.
In a message dated
5/17/99 8:52:03 AM Central Daylight Time,
rcrawford@dbp-inc.com
writes:
<< I may be mistaken, but I believe the Corvette boxes are
from ZF not Getrag.
They do however suffer the same fate, if there's an
internal problem, the
dealers are instructed to replace the trans
assembly.
Roger >>
I believe that might be the
case, Roger. I wasn't too sure if the
Corvettes had a
Getrag or not; Either way, same fate!
Thanks,
Ahmed.
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Date:
Mon, 17 May 1999 08:54:16 -0500
From: "Pandya, Raagi" <raagi.pandya@ca.unisys.com>
Subject:
RE: Team3S: Getting Mitsu parts in Canada.
Greetings,
I am
considering importing a 3KGT VR4 (91-93) into Canada, and was concerned
about
the availability parts for this vehicle, both standard maintenance
parts and
general repair parts. From what I understand, basically
everything
'under' the skin of the car is the same as the Dodge Stealth
RT/TT?
Is
this a safe assumption? For general maintenance, can I go to the
local
parts depot/dealer and safely use the Stealth parts?
Best
Regards
Raagi Pandya
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Date:
Mon, 17 May 1999 09:07:48 -0500
From: "Pandya, Raagi" <raagi.pandya@ca.unisys.com>
Subject:
RE: Team3S: Ground Control Group Purchase!
Greetings Roger,
My
name is Raagi Pandya, I live in Montreal, I was wondering if I could ask
for
your opinion on something...
I am looking at importing (from the US) a 92
Mitsu 3000GT VR4. It's dark
green, all loaded, and in pretty good shape
ascetically. It is relatively
high mileage (200K KM), but has most of
the maintenance records. The car
seems quite nice, but does have a
flaw; it has what sounds like a
bearing/rod knock in the motor. It is,
however, very inexpensive ($5000US).
I have yet to take it to a shop for a
compression test/general overview, but
I was wondering if this seems like a
good deal to you. I plan to build up
the motor (ported
head/intake/exhaust), perhaps forged pistons and
(obviously!) new
rods.
The stock turbo will have to go (if money permits, right away!).
The car is
driveable, and the gearbox seems quite intact.
Do you think
this is a worthwhile idea? I am no stranger to imported cars
(I'm
currently an owner of a modded first generation 300ZX Turbo and
MR2
Supercharged, and have worked on cars from 300ZXTT's to blown Mustangs),
but
have very limited knowledge of the 3KGT/RTTT line.
I guess
basically what I am asking is: would you buy this car if you were
in my
place?
Thanks for any and all comments
Raagi Pandya
Montreal,
Canada
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Date:
Mon, 17 May 1999 10:09:20 -0400
From: josesini <josesini@engin.umich.edu>
Subject:
Re: Team3S: ** Getrag Info **
Hi all,
Some one had an idea of
building stronger parts for our transmissions.
Well I have the following if
anyone needs them. All these parts came
out of a 5 speed w/ 25
splines:
1-2 Synchro
3-4 Synchro (still in very good
condition)
Output Shaft w/ 25 splines.
Just tell me who to send them
to!
Jose
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Date:
Mon, 17 May 1999 09:11:14 -0500
From: "Pandya, Raagi" <raagi.pandya@ca.unisys.com>
Subject:
RE: Team3S: OOPS
Sorry, that last message was intended as a private
message.
A thousand apologies.....
Raagi Pandya
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Date:
Mon, 17 May 1999 09:52:38 -0500
From: S J Cowan <sjc0u812@juno.com>
Subject: Re:
Team3S: Dealer experience & transmission questions.
Don't forget the
Nissan Skyline TT.....
On Mon, 17 May 1999 09:42:05 EDT TurboDrvn@aol.com writes:
>In a
message dated 5/16/99 1:22:27 AM Central Daylight Time,
>nxiong@juno.com
>writes:
>
><< someone on the message boards was
experimenting w/putting in a
>corvette 6
> spd.
>>
>
>Thank you gentlemen (Nick, Darc, Joshua & Terry),
for all your input.
>
>I believe the 6 speed Corvette transmission
is also manufactured by
>Getrag;
>This German based company is
found in our cars, Supras, Corvettes and
>
>Camaros.
They seem to dominate the high Performance car market.
>
>I'll keep
you all & the list posted with my progress.
>
>Ahmed "AL-Crazy"
- '92 VR4
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Date:
Mon, 17 May 1999 08:11:46 -0700
From: wce@bc.sympatico.ca
Subject: Re:
Team3S: Getting Mitsu parts in Canada.
Pandya;
Most of what you
have on this first generation car (if you import it), is identical to
it's
twin the Stealth TT. A few cosmetic features and the active aero system
are
different, but the rest is pure and simple, identical. So you can pick up
parts up at
your local Dodge Dealer, or go south of the border and pick
up your parts or do it there
even cheaper. Mitsu and Dodge departed
this body twin style in the second generation,
but the mechanical components
were bye and large left the same.
Rebuilds on the engine of this
generation have been performed regularly by race
enthusiasts as the
result of overboost situations before dyno testing indicated that 1
bar was
the safe limit. The results of these tear downs has shown that the engine
itself
remains in almost new condition and the rings (or in some cases the
pistons) have not
sustained the detonation caused by high boost situations.
Noise in the valve lash
adjusters has seen replacement of these, but other
than that, you have one of the
best/stongest engines engineered today
to play with. You should note that the 91-92
modles had 2 bolt mains ,and the
93 and up into the second generation had 4 bolt mains.
91-to mid 92 also
had 15 spline input shafts in the transmission so consider getting
an
after market hardened input shaft and transfer case sleeve when doing your
rebuild, if
it's one of these. Now, if you can just get the the seller
to take your Canadian
dollars at par
:-)
Best
Darc
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Date:
Mon, 17 May 1999 11:31:03 EDT
From: Aso8@aol.com
Subject: Team3S: Racing
seats
For anybody interested in a racing seat...
I've just chosen the
following for myself.
Corbeau Forza CSForza
I have a list price of $220
with shipping included for each seat
plus $78.50 for each bracket. I was also
able to get a 5% list discount
set up for anyone interested. Mention 3SI
list. They can be seen at:
http://www.sportscar-parts.com/seats.html
These
seats are rated, approved and cut a bit larger for an American butt.
They
also make a more padded model called Forza 2 but its heavier
BTW, I have not
used or sat in them yet so make your own decisions.
Arty 91 VR-4
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Date:
Mon, 17 May 1999 08:38:02 -0700
From: "Jim Berry" <fastmax@home.com>
Subject: Re: Team3S:
Ground Control Group Purchase!
Subject: Team3S: Ground Control Group
Purchase!
> DSM list is having a Group Purchase on Ground
Control
!
> Usual price is $400, they are down to $325 now. If 6
more people
> join, price will be $300 each kit. I am getting this
for my '94; if
> you are interested, contact ASAP
Great timing ---
I just ordered a set Thursday, talked to Arron, mentioned
Team3S and Barry
Kings recommendation but no GP was mentioned.
Who do I need to talk to, maybe
I can still get in. Or at least have it counted
towards the GP sence I did
buy as a result of the group input.
Jim Berry Fastmax@home.com
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Date:
Mon, 17 May 1999 11:49:47 EDT
From: Aso8@aol.com
Subject: Re: Team3S: Ground
Control Group Purchase!
Who is it I need to contact on the GP?
Thanks
for the info.
Arty 91 VR-4
In a message dated 5/17/99 8:43:02 AM
Pacific Daylight Time, fastmax@home.com
writes:
<< Subj: Re: Team3S: Ground Control Group
Purchase!
Date: 5/17/99 8:43:02 AM Pacific Daylight Time
From:
fastmax@home.com (Jim
Berry)
Sender: owner-stealth-3000gt@list.sirius.com
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stealth-3000gt@list.sirius.com
To:
stealth-3000gt@list.sirius.com
Subject:
Team3S: Ground Control Group Purchase!
> DSM
list is having a Group Purchase on Ground Control
!
> Usual
price is $400, they are down to $325 now. If 6 more people
>
join, price will be $300 each kit. I am getting this for my '94;
if
> you are interested, contact ASAP
>>
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Date:
Mon, 17 May 1999 11:59:08 EDT
From: TurboDrvn@aol.com
Subject: Re: Team3S:
Ground Control Group Purchase!
Arty,
I believe the person handling the
group purchase is Jack Tertadian.
Ahmed.
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Date:
Mon, 17 May 1999 18:13:14 -0700
From: lehir@genesiscom.ch (Genesiscon
Lehir)
Subject: Team3S: Week-End Work
Hi Gang...
Worked a
little bit on my 92 RT/TT this week-end.
All of this is probably no news for
most of you, but I'll write it anyways
:-)
Still haven't got the
intake plenum, so, I decided to change ONLY the 3
front plug wires. Drive the
car this morning, I CANNOT BELEIVE the
difference these 3 wires are
making...hesitation is "almost" gone, and the
car is a lot more enjoyable to
drive.
At the same time, I as well fixed a couple irritating
problems..
Cargo cover wouldn't stay in the mount
The windown's driver's
side plastic plate was cracked
The steering wheel radio controls were NOT
working very well
All fixed.
I as well decided to modify the way
the fog lights are working on the car.
found the instructions
saying
"There are 4 red wires attached to it, 1 with silver dashes, 1
with a yellow
stripe and silver dots, and 2 with a blue stripe."
Oups,
talk about badly written..there are TWO IDENTICAL RED WITH A BLUE
STRIPE
WIRE...
"The one that is on the bottom of the relay with the blue stripe
is the one
you need to
cut."
Ahem....when a relay is lying FLAT,
and the relay connectors have a T
shape....where is the one at the
bottom....
Took my multimeter, played around, thought I found the
right
one....WRONGO.....
Had to re-solder it (and, using a gas soldering
pen, I managed to badly burn
my thumb. These things are hot enough to melt
lead, they're hot enough to
"cook" human flesh as well, 1300°C is DAMM
HOT)
So, here are my "corrected and improved" version.
The relay
connectors are arranged somewhat like a T, and you'll find TWO RED
wires with
a blue stripe. One of the red wire will be positioned at the base
(or bottom)
of the T. Follow it, it should go into the main wiring harness.
You do NOT
want to cut this one.
The OTHER red wire is positioned at a side of the top
of the T. If you
follow this wire, it should splice into another wire nearby.
You want to cut
THIS wire, between the splice, and the relay
connector.
You MUST insulate the wire not going to the relay, as this
wire will become
"hot" when your headlamps are on (heat shrink tubes are
working perfectly)
I'd suggest to connect the OTHER side (the one going
to the relay) to the
PROTECTED side of the "Tail Lights" relay. In my car,
that wire is a green
one, with black dots.
That way, you'll be able to get
the fod lights on as soon as the "parking"
lights are on, but you'll still
have the "walkaway battery saver" working as
designed (yup, I tested all
modes).
Hope this will prevent a couple
blisters...
Henri
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Date:
Mon, 17 May 1999 13:08:00 -0700
From: Nick Xiong <nxiong@juno.com>
Subject: Team3S: Got
another ticket
just got another last night, does anyone know if I will be
billed for
repeat offender since my last ticket was in August
1998?
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Date:
Mon, 17 May 1999 10:07:09 -0700
From: Morgan Holly <morgan@popstudios.com>
Subject:
Team3S: Valve noise(?) at startup
Hi, this is my 1st post.
I have
a '92 VR4, sometimes I get a horrible grinding noise on cold starts.
The
dealer can't find the problem. Any ideas?
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Date:
Mon, 17 May 1999 13:10:28 EDT
From: TurboDrvn@aol.com
Subject: Re: Team3S:
Got another ticket
In a message dated 5/17/99 12:05:43 PM Central
Daylight Time, nxiong@juno.com
writes:
<< just got another last night, does anyone know if I
will be billed for
repeat offender since my last ticket was in August
1998? >>
Hey Nick,
Sorry to hear about your ticket.
If you had a ticket last August of
1998; your chances are good that you
won't be billed for a repeat offender;
there's usually a 6 month
probationary period; and you're definitely past 6
months; but it
depends on the severity of your last ticket and also did you
go to traffic
school?
Good luck!
Ahmed.
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Date:
Mon, 17 May 1999 12:44:11 -0500
From: "Jeff" <spydervr4@home.com>
Subject: Re:
Team3S: Ground Control Group Purchase!
Joe Kou at af3976@wayne.edu is handling the group
purchase. Jack Tertadian
is not...he just relayed us the message.
If you're interested, you need to
send him your name, address, phone number,
year and make/model, and he will
get you on the list.
jeff
'95
Mitsubishi Spyder VR-4
'90 Mitsubishi Eclipse GSX
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From: Aso8@aol.com <Aso8@aol.com>
To: stealth-3000gt@list.sirius.com
<stealth-3000gt@list.sirius.com>
Cc:
Aso8@aol.com <Aso8@aol.com>
Date: Monday, May 17, 1999
10:51 AM
Subject: Re: Team3S: Ground Control Group
Purchase!
>Who is it I need to contact on the GP?
>Thanks
for the info.
>Arty 91 VR-4
>
>In a message dated 5/17/99
8:43:02 AM Pacific Daylight Time,
fastmax@home.com
>writes:
>
><<
Subj: Re: Team3S: Ground Control Group Purchase!
> Date: 5/17/99 8:43:02
AM Pacific Daylight Time
> From: fastmax@home.com (Jim Berry)
> Sender:
owner-stealth-3000gt@list.sirius.com
>
Reply-to: stealth-3000gt@list.sirius.com
>
To: stealth-3000gt@list.sirius.com
>
>
Subject: Team3S: Ground Control Group Purchase!
>
>
> > DSM
list is having a Group Purchase on Ground Control
> !
> > Usual
price is $400, they are down to $325 now. If 6 more people
> >
join, price will be $300 each kit. I am getting this for my '94;
if
> > you are interested, contact ASAP
>
>>
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Date:
Mon, 17 May 1999 13:41:22 -0400
From: "Michael Chan" <michael.chan@hcl.com>
Subject: Re:
Team3S: Getting Mitsu parts in Canada.
I wouldn't go to a dealer at
all. Email me privately if you are in Toronto
and I will tell you of my
horror stories...
Mike
91TT
- -----Original
Message-----
From: Pandya, Raagi <raagi.pandya@ca.unisys.com>
To:
'stealth-3000gt@list.sirius.com'
<stealth-3000gt@list.sirius.com>
Date:
Monday, May 17, 1999 9:59 AM
Subject: RE: Team3S: Getting Mitsu parts in
Canada.
>Greetings,
>
>I am considering importing a
3KGT VR4 (91-93) into Canada, and was
concerned
>about the availability
parts for this vehicle, both standard maintenance
>parts and general
repair parts. From what I understand, basically
>everything 'under'
the skin of the car is the same as the Dodge
Stealth
>RT/TT?
>
>Is this a safe assumption? For
general maintenance, can I go to the local
>parts depot/dealer and safely
use the Stealth parts?
>
>Best Regards
>Raagi
Pandya
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Date:
Mon, 17 May 1999 19:41:15 +0200
From: "R.G." <robby@swissonline.ch>
Subject: Re:
Team3S: Got another ticket (ADMIN MESSAGE)
Please immediately stop this
OFF-LINE TOPIC as this is null/zero/nada technical
stuff.
Thanks for
your corporation
Roger for the Admins
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Date:
Mon, 17 May 1999 19:49:17 +0200
From: "R.G." <robby@swissonline.ch>
Subject: Re:
Team3S: Valve noise(?) at startup
> Hi, this is my 1st
post.
Morgan, you are very welcome :)
> I have a '92 VR4,
sometimes I get a horrible grinding noise on cold starts.
Try to locate
if the noise is comming from the firewall on the passengers side.
What you
hear is maybe only the boost or the fuel pressure valve and the fix
would
then be easy.
Also if it is coser to the engine, then an engine flush and
new gooood oil would
maybe help.
Last but not least check out of the
noise is comming from the tranny or clutch
region.
Please locate the
sound as good as possible and note the temp gauge when the
sound is going
away.
Let us know,
Roger
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Gerl, Switzerland
93'3000GT TwinTurbo (Animale Rosso)
K&N
FIPK,Magnecor wires,Blitz DSBC/gauge/Dual Timer,Apexi AFC,HKS SBOV,
ATR
DP/testpipe,Borla Cat-back,OZ Mito2 rims,Yoko AVS-Z1,braided brake
lines
Bremsa brakes,u-Mevius Street Race pads
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Date:
Mon, 17 May 1999 14:01:36 -0400
From: William Lynn Larsen <wlarsen@ibm.net>
Subject: Re: Team3S:
Getting Mitsu parts in Canada.
Darc,
One quick question on
comparison of Stealth RT/TT and Mitsu VR-4: Does
the Stealth RT/TT also have
4 wheel steering like its
Mitsu
counterparts?
Regards,
Lynn
wce@bc.sympatico.ca wrote:
>
> Pandya;
>
> Most of what you have on this first generation
car (if you import it), is identical to
> it's twin the Stealth TT. A few
cosmetic features and the active aero system are
> different, but the rest
is pure and simple, identical.
> Best
>
> Darc
>
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Date:
Mon, 17 May 1999 20:16:16 +0200
From: "R.G." <robby@swissonline.ch>
Subject:
Team3S: Ground control email needed !
Sorry guys for this little
help-call :)
But I do need an email address from Ground Control to ask em
about my other car
that already have Eibach springs.
Thanks in advance
and please email me privately
Roger
PS: Yes, I'm getting them for the
Animale too :))
- -----------------------
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Switzerland
93'3000GT TwinTurbo (Animale Rosso)
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Date:
Mon, 17 May 1999 13:40:25 -0500
From: "Derek Hayes" <hayes@info.starpoint.net>
Subject:
Team3S: RPM question
I was wondering if anyone knew what RPM a Base
Stealth should be reading at
a speed of 65 MPH?
My car is a 1993 Base
Stealth and at 65MPH the RPM is at 2700. Is that
about
right?
Derek Hayes
'93 Base Stealth
http://www.starpoint.net/~hayes
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Date:
Mon, 17 May 1999 14:45:30 EDT
From: Aso8@aol.com
Subject: Team3S: Struts
If
I use the adjustable Ground Control Springs
what is the better strut to match
up with it -
KYB, Gab, or stock ECS for 1/4 mile race use?
Arty 91
VR-4
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Date:
Mon, 17 May 1999 13:49:29 -0500 (EST)
From: Dennis Moore <stealth@kiva.net>
Subject: Re: Team3S:
RPM question
Yes, that's about right. I'm just under 3K at
80mph. You and I should
have the same tranny. (I drive a 93
Stealth ES.)
Dennis Moore
stealth@kiva.net
How many roads must a
man travel down before he admits he is lost?
On Mon, 17 May 1999, Derek
Hayes wrote:
> I was wondering if anyone knew what RPM a Base Stealth
should be reading at
> a speed of 65 MPH?
>
> My car is a
1993 Base Stealth and at 65MPH the RPM is at 2700. Is that
> about
right?
>
> Derek Hayes
> '93 Base Stealth
> http://www.starpoint.net/~hayes
>
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Date:
Mon, 17 May 1999 15:46:57 -0500
From: Phil Johnson <dangerwit@mn.mediaone.net>
Subject:
Re: Team3S: Valve noise(?) at startup
<html><div>I had a
nasty grinding noise a while ago, most prevalent in
winter. It was
loud, stayed the same high pitch, and it was like it
started fast and the
slowed down... like a REALLY REALLY rusted fan as it
slowed down to a stop or
something. I noticed the noise disappeared as
soon as the car started, or I
let up on the key.</div>
<br>
<div>Anyway, this
situation turned out to be my starter. It was a
simple solution of
putting some grease on the bendix gear on the starter
and it went away,
although it came back later. This could be a
possibilty too, as
I've heard lots of 3S people complaining about the
same thing, though it very
well could the other things
listed
below.</div>
<br>
<div>If you monkey with the
starter, DISCONNECT THE BATTERY. A guy
told me how a friend of his
lost a finger on the same job but didn't
disconnect the battery.
</div>
<br>
<div>If you need more info, email me and
I'll dig up the email I used to
grease my starter
up.</div>
<br>
<div>*Phillip</div>
<br>
<br>
<div>At
12:49 PM 5/17/99 , you wrote:</div>
<div>>> Hi,
this is my 1st
post.</div>
<div>></div>
<div>>Morgan,
you are very welcome
:)</div>
<div>></div>
<div>>>
I have a '92 VR4, sometimes I get a horrible grinding noise
on cold
starts.</div>
<div>></div>
<div>>Try
to locate if the noise is comming from the firewall on the
passengers
side.</div>
<div>>What you hear is maybe only the boost or
the fuel pressure valve
and the fix</div>
<div>>would
then be
easy.</div>
<div>></div>
<div>>Also
if it is coser to the engine, then an engine flush and new
gooood oil
</div>
<div>>would</div>
<div>>maybe
help.</div>
<div>></div>
<div>>Last
but not least check out of the noise is comming from the
tranny or
clutch</div>
<div>>region.</div>
<div>></div>
<div>>Please
locate the sound as good as possible and note the temp
gauge when
the</div>
<div>>sound is going
away.</div>
<div>></div>
<div>>Let
us
know,</div>
<div>>Roger</div>
<div>></div>
<div>>-----------------------</div>
<div>>Roger
Gerl, Switzerland</div>
<div>>93'3000GT TwinTurbo (Animale
Rosso)</div>
<div>>K&N FIPK,Magnecor wires,Blitz
DSBC/gauge/Dual Timer,Apexi
AFC,HKS
SBOV,</div>
<div>>ATR DP/testpipe,Borla Cat-back,OZ Mito2
rims,Yoko AVS-Z1,braided
brake lines</div>
<div>>Bremsa
brakes,u-Mevius Street Race
pads</div>
<div>></div>
<div>>Check
out:
<a
href="http://www.geocities.com/MotorCity/Speedway/9589/3000gt.html"
EUDORA=AUTOURL>http://www.geocities.com/MotorCity/Speedway/9589/3000gt.html</a></div>
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subscribe/unsubscribe info, our web page is
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<br>
<hr>
<font
face="Tahoma"><b>Phillip Johnson<br>
</b>Ceridian
Central Custom Programmer<br>
<a href="mailto:dangerwit@mediaone.net">dangerwit@mediaone.net<br>
</a></font></html>
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Date:
Mon, 17 May 1999 15:53:53 -0400
From: Joshua <joshua@princelaw.com>
Subject: RE:
Team3S: Ground control What exactly is it?
Can someone describe what
exactly this kit includes and whether they can do
it to you eibach springs if
you already have them? Thanks
-----Original Message-----
From:
R.G. [mailto:robby@swissonline.ch]
Sent:
Monday, May 17, 1999 2:16 PM
To: stealth-3000gt@list.sirius.com
Subject:
Team3S: Ground control email needed !
Sorry guys for this little
help-call :)
But I do need an email address from Ground Control to ask
em
about my other car
that already have Eibach springs.
Thanks in
advance and please email me privately
Roger
PS: Yes, I'm getting them
for the Animale too :))
-----------------------
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Switzerland
93'3000GT TwinTurbo (Animale Rosso)
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Date:
Mon, 17 May 1999 13:07:23 -0700
From: wce@bc.sympatico.ca
Subject: Re:
Team3S: Getting Mitsu parts in Canada.
Hi Lynn;
Yep it (TT's
are all RT) has all wheel steering...but this feature I believe kicks in
at
speeds over 30 or somesuch. Essentially they are the same with different
decals/trim (Mitsu
vs Stealth) and the Mitsu has a different active aero wing
and front active spoiler.
Best
Darc
William Lynn Larsen
wrote:
> Darc,
>
> One quick question on comparison of
Stealth RT/TT and Mitsu VR-4: Does
> the Stealth RT/TT also have 4 wheel
steering like its Mitsu
> counterparts?
>
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Date:
Mon, 17 May 1999 16:17:27 -0400
From: Joshua <joshua@princelaw.com>
Subject:
Team3S: Boost Controllers..which one?
My mom has the EVC IV in her car
and once I manually did it, it was awesome,
I really saw a huge difference,
but which is better the EVC IV or the Blitz
DSBC? Can you manually do
the DSBC? Or don't you have to do 110 mph to
setup the DSBC like the
EVC. Also I know a guy selling a EVC III atm which
he says was worth
$1000 but he would sell it for $440. What is up with that
model?
Thanks a lot
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Date:
Mon, 17 May 1999 16:37:23 EDT
From: TrAmSoOtRu@aol.com
Subject: Re: Team3S:
Ground Control Group Purchase!
In a message dated 5/17/99 6:23:40 AM
Central Daylight Time,
phnxgld@erols.com writes:
<<
Roger, not sure what else I can add, but the link is:
http://www.ground-control.com/
>>
Can someone tell me how low this lower our cars?
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Date:
Mon, 17 May 1999 15:45:05 -0500
From: Wayne <wala@hypertech-inc.com>
Subject:
Re: Team3S: Boost Controllers..which one?
Correct me if i'm wrong
anybody, but i belive the only reason HKS reduced
the price of the EVC
between the III and IV is Greddy came out with the
PROfec at a price of
~$500. Meanwhile, 2-3 other companies released
electronic boost controllers
in the same $500 price range. There was no way
for HKS to compete with a
pricetag of $1000. At that point they reduced the
price and put a IV at the
end. Of course thats just one man's opinion.......
Wayne
At
03:17 PM 5/17/99 , you wrote:
>Also I know a guy selling a EVC III atm
which
>he says was worth $1000 but he would sell it for $440. What
is up with that
>model?
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Date:
Mon, 17 May 1999 14:45:15 -0600
From: Andrew Brilliant <andrewb@infowest.com>
Subject:
Team3S: Piston Q?
Anyone have a photo of a piston for 3S TT?
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Date:
Mon, 17 May 1999 10:56:08 -0500
From: Merritt <merritt@cedar-rapids.net>
Subject:
Re: Team3S: Ground Control Group Purchase!
At 08:38 AM 5/17/99 -0700, you
wrote:
>Subject: Team3S: Ground Control Group
Purchase!
>
>
>> DSM list is having a Group Purchase on
Ground Control
>!
>> Usual price is $400, they are down to $325
now. If 6 more people
>> join, price will be $300 each kit.
I am getting this for my '94; if
>> you are interested, contact
ASAP
>
>
Count me in. Send details on how to arrange
purchase.
Rich/old poop/94 VR4
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Date:
Mon, 17 May 1999 15:53:36 -0500
From: Wayne <wala@hypertech-inc.com>
Subject:
Team3S: EVC III atm....
However, to answer your question about the "atm",
this is a feature that
enables the EVC to automatically compensate for
altitude changes through
the use of an atmospheric pressure
sensor......Otherwise it's the same as
the standard EVC
III.
Wayne
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Date:
Mon, 17 May 1999 16:51:54 EDT
From: TrAmSoOtRu@aol.com
Subject: Re: Team3S:
Ground Control Group Purchase!
In a message dated 5/17/99 3:48:51 PM
Central Daylight Time,
merritt@cedar-rapids.net
writes:
<< >Subject: Team3S: Ground Control Group
Purchase!
>
>
>> DSM list is having a
Group Purchase on Ground Control
>!
>> Usual price is
$400, they are down to $325 now. If 6 more people
>> join,
price will be $300 each kit. I am getting this for my '94;
if
>> you are interested, contact ASAP >>
IF
someone can tell me how low this will lower my car, i might be in. : )
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Date:
Mon, 17 May 1999 17:26:10 -0400
From: Gavin Wallis <wallisg@mwaa.com>
Subject: Team3S:
Ground Control Group Purchase! -Reply
Sounds like something i'd like to
be in on. Except, i dunno what they do
exactly ;). Someone give up the
goodies.
Thanks,
Gavin
>>> xwing <xwing@execpc.com> 05/17/99 11:23am
>>>
DSM list is having a Group Purchase on Ground
Control
adjustable/lowering spring
suspension kits, such as Barry King and
several other List Members
have
already and have been raving about!
WE 3S people CAN join the buy!
Usual price is $400, they are down to
$325 now. If 6 more people
join, price will be $300 each kit. I
am getting this for my '94; if
you are interested, contact ASAP:
Joe
Kou af3976@wayne.edu
Jack
Tertadian
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Date:
Tue, 18 May 1999 09:57:29 +1200
From: Kevin Clark <Kevin.Clark@hnz.co.nz>
Subject:
RE: Team3S: Boost Controllers..which one?
> I really saw a huge
difference, but which is better the EVC
> IV or the Blitz DSBC? Can
you manually do the DSBC? Or
> don't you have to do 110 mph to setup
the DSBC like the EVC.
I have no knowledge of the EVC, but the Blitz does
not require
the car to be raced in order to set it up. The Blitz
provides
you with the means to run a consistant pressure at one of
four
predefined (by yourself) settings. It has a built in
digital
boost guage and peak boost hold.
More information on the setup
of this can be found at Roger's
site:
http://www.geocities.com/MotorCity/Speedway/9589/dsbc_manual.html
Cheers,
Kevin
Clark
'91 GTO-VR4
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Date:
Tue, 18 May 1999 00:29:56 +0200
From: "R.G." <robby@swissonline.ch>
Subject: Re:
Team3S: ALL !! Ground Control Group Purchase
First, thanks to Jack that
brought this to our attention ! And NO he is not the
coordinator and don't
send any count-me-in or whatever to his attention nor to
the list.
If
you don't know what it is ... you don't need it (although Jack wrote it
in
his post what it is). If you have some money left then jump to the GP page
on my
site
http://www.geocities.com/MotorCity/Speedway/9589/group_purchase.html
For
any question regarding price and amount the contact person is Joe Kou
(af3976@wayne.edu). He grabs the people
together and sends Ground Control the
list of the participants. Payment and
shipping will then handled by them. Please
note that Joe is a proud DSM owner
and cannot answer you specific 3000GT
questions.
Of course some
questions like "how much lower will be my car" (to the ground if
you want) or
"what spring rate should be used" are valid ones and can maybe
answered by
some people who already have them on their car.
Hope this helps
!
Roger
- -----------------------
Roger Gerl,
Switzerland
93'3000GT TwinTurbo (Animale Rosso)
K&N FIPK,Magnecor
wires,Blitz DSBC/gauge/Dual Timer,Apexi AFC,HKS SBOV,
ATR DP/testpipe,Borla
Cat-back,OZ Mito2 rims,Yoko AVS-Z1,braided brake lines
Bremsa brakes,u-Mevius
Street Race pads
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Date:
Tue, 18 May 1999 00:33:39 +0200
From: "R.G." <robby@swissonline.ch>
Subject: Re:
Team3S: Piston Q?
> Anyone have a photo of a piston for 3S
TT?
Yes, but what exactly do you want or what is your aim ??
The
BAD pics are on my page under the "problems" section :
http://www.geocities.com/MotorCity/Speedway/9589/engine_problems.html
-
-----------------------
Roger Gerl, Switzerland
93'3000GT TwinTurbo
(Animale Rosso)
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Date:
Mon, 17 May 1999 18:33:33 -0400
From: Joshua <joshua@princelaw.com>
Subject: RE:
Team3S: ALL !! Ground Control Group Purchase
What if we have eibach
spring already? Can these be used with the
other
parts???
-----Original Message-----
From: R.G. [mailto:robby@swissonline.ch]
Sent:
Monday, May 17, 1999 6:30 PM
To: stealth-3000gt@list.sirius.com
Subject:
Re: Team3S: ALL !! Ground Control Group
Purchase
First, thanks to Jack
that brought this to our attention !
And NO he is not the
coordinator and
don't send any count-me-in or whatever to
his attention nor to
the
list.
If you don't know what it is ... you don't need it
(although
Jack wrote it in
his post what it is). If you have some money
left then jump
to the GP page on my
site
http://www.geocities.com/MotorCity/Speedway/9589/group_purchase.html
For
any question regarding price and amount the contact
person is Joe Kou
(af3976@wayne.edu). He grabs the people
together and sends
Ground Control the
list of the participants. Payment
and shipping will then
handled by them. Please
note that Joe is a proud
DSM owner and cannot answer you
specific 3000GT
questions.
Of
course some questions like "how much lower will be my
car" (to the ground
if
you want) or "what spring rate should be used" are valid
ones and can
maybe
answered by some people who already have them on their car.
Hope
this helps !
Roger
-----------------------
Roger Gerl,
Switzerland
93'3000GT TwinTurbo (Animale Rosso)
K&N FIPK,Magnecor
wires,Blitz DSBC/gauge/Dual Timer,Apexi
AFC,HKS SBOV,
ATR
DP/testpipe,Borla Cat-back,OZ Mito2 rims,Yoko
AVS-Z1,braided brake
lines
Bremsa brakes,u-Mevius Street Race pads
Check out:
http://www.geocities.com/MotorCity/Speedway/9589/3000gt.html
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Date:
Tue, 18 May 1999 00:44:22 +0200
From: "R.G." <robby@swissonline.ch>
Subject: Re:
Team3S: Boost Controllers..which one?
The mostly bought EBCs are the
Blitz DSBC and the Apexi SAVC-R. In an objective
comparison both got about
the same points. But of course some may find an IDC
display much more
valuable than a peak hold feature.
For the DSBC, Kevin explained it very
well. After using the DSBC for over a
year, I think it is a great tool but
also somewhat difficult as you have the
full control. As the season changes
you also have to change the settings a
little. No big deal but I'm often find
myself trying another settings under
different ambient.
The AVC-R is a
very good BC and has some function like IDC monitor and self
learning. The
later seems to work very good compared to other products and if
you want a
fire-and-forget feature, the Apexi is the best choice.
The street prices
for the AVC-R is around $460 while the Blitz DSBC can be get
for under
$400.
Happy boosting,
Roger
- -----------------------
Roger
Gerl, Switzerland
93'3000GT TwinTurbo (Animale Rosso)
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Date:
Mon, 17 May 1999 17:00:54 -0600
From: Andrew Brilliant <andrewb@infowest.com>
Subject: Re:
Team3S: Piston Q?
Trying to come up with a good design. I was
talking with a friend about the Type R
acura, and how he liked their piston
design. He wants to try some interesting ideas
with his (was mine about
4 days ago) VR-4.
He owns A&S rebuilds, and a dealership. He
has plans to do a lot of engine work to that
bad boy since he owns the shop
that does that sort of thing. He's had it 4 days, and
he's got the
whole thing torn apart, and is porting/polishing tonight, and
tomorrow.
They have some nice CC machining equipment, and we are trying
to come up with any ideas
for a better piston design.
Can you machine
forged Pistons??? I know nothing more than simple physics when it
comes
to cars so forgive my ignorance. There is a local Motorcycle
performance shop who does
custom piston work, and routinely works with
Titanium/Kevlar reinforced pistons and high
technologies like they put on
those things these days. Hoping ot come up with some
really good piston
design. Ideas?
"R.G." wrote:
> > Anyone have a photo of a
piston for 3S TT?
>
> Yes, but what exactly do you want or what is
your aim ??
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Date:
Mon, 17 May 1999 19:55:24 -0400
From: Joshua <joshua@princelaw.com>
Subject: RE:
Team3S: ALL !! Ground Control Group Purchase
Does ECS still work if you
keep you stock struts?
-----Original Message-----
From: R.G.
[mailto:robby@swissonline.ch]
Sent:
Monday, May 17, 1999 6:30 PM
To: stealth-3000gt@list.sirius.com
Subject:
Re: Team3S: ALL !! Ground Control Group
Purchase
First, thanks to Jack
that brought this to our attention !
And NO he is not the
coordinator and
don't send any count-me-in or whatever to
his attention nor to
the
list.
If you don't know what it is ... you don't need it
(although
Jack wrote it in
his post what it is). If you have some money
left then jump
to the GP page on my
site
http://www.geocities.com/MotorCity/Speedway/9589/group_purchase.html
For
any question regarding price and amount the contact
person is Joe Kou
(af3976@wayne.edu). He grabs the people
together and sends
Ground Control the
list of the participants. Payment
and shipping will then
handled by them. Please
note that Joe is a proud
DSM owner and cannot answer you
specific 3000GT
questions.
Of
course some questions like "how much lower will be my
car" (to the ground
if
you want) or "what spring rate should be used" are valid
ones and can
maybe
answered by some people who already have them on their car.
Hope
this helps !
Roger
-----------------------
Roger Gerl,
Switzerland
93'3000GT TwinTurbo (Animale Rosso)
K&N FIPK,Magnecor
wires,Blitz DSBC/gauge/Dual Timer,Apexi
AFC,HKS SBOV,
ATR
DP/testpipe,Borla Cat-back,OZ Mito2 rims,Yoko
AVS-Z1,braided brake
lines
Bremsa brakes,u-Mevius Street Race pads
Check out:
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Date:
Mon, 17 May 1999 21:02:02 -0400
From: Joshua <joshua@princelaw.com>
Subject: RE:
Team3S: ALL !! Ground Control Group Purchase
I talked with the guy who is
putting together the group purchase and he
didn't know so I will ask you
guys. I know there was a lot of talk that if
you wanted to go
lower then the eibachs you had to cut the frame rail or
something, do you
hafta do that with this setup? I am thinking about
selling my eibach
lowering springs and just getting this setup. Can anyone
tell me how
they like it? Does it work with the stock struts and ecs?
Thanks for
any info
-----Original Message-----
From: R.G. [mailto:robby@swissonline.ch]
Sent:
Monday, May 17, 1999 6:30 PM
To: stealth-3000gt@list.sirius.com
Subject:
Re: Team3S: ALL !! Ground Control Group
Purchase
First, thanks to Jack
that brought this to our attention !
And NO he is not the
coordinator and
don't send any count-me-in or whatever to
his attention nor to
the
list.
If you don't know what it is ... you don't need it
(although
Jack wrote it in
his post what it is). If you have some money
left then jump
to the GP page on my
site
http://www.geocities.com/MotorCity/Speedway/9589/group_purchase.html
For
any question regarding price and amount the contact
person is Joe Kou
(af3976@wayne.edu). He grabs the people
together and sends
Ground Control the
list of the participants. Payment
and shipping will then
handled by them. Please
note that Joe is a proud
DSM owner and cannot answer you
specific 3000GT
questions.
Of
course some questions like "how much lower will be my
car" (to the ground
if
you want) or "what spring rate should be used" are valid
ones and can
maybe
answered by some people who already have them on their car.
Hope
this helps !
Roger
-----------------------
Roger Gerl,
Switzerland
93'3000GT TwinTurbo (Animale Rosso)
K&N FIPK,Magnecor
wires,Blitz DSBC/gauge/Dual Timer,Apexi
AFC,HKS SBOV,
ATR
DP/testpipe,Borla Cat-back,OZ Mito2 rims,Yoko
AVS-Z1,braided brake
lines
Bremsa brakes,u-Mevius Street Race pads
Check out:
http://www.geocities.com/MotorCity/Speedway/9589/3000gt.html
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Date:
Mon, 17 May 1999 21:50:19 -0500
From: "Paul T. Golley" <ptgolley@ro.com>
Subject: Re: Team3S:
Ground Control Group Purchase! -Reply
>>>> xwing <xwing@execpc.com> 05/17/99 11:23am
>>>
>DSM list is having a Group Purchase on Ground
Control
>adjustable/lowering spring
>suspension kits, such as Barry
King and several other List Members
>have
>already and have been
raving about! WE 3S people CAN join the buy!
>Usual price is
$400, they are down to $325 now. If 6 more people
>join, price will
be $300 each kit. I am getting this for my '94; if
>you are
interested, contact ASAP:
Does anyone know if the OEM adjustment
range can be made
to get the wheels into a proper (non-wearing) alignment
using
this hardware? (95 VR-4.)
Regards, ptg
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Date:
Mon, 17 May 1999 20:00:19 -0700
From: "Barry E. King" <beking@home.com>
Subject: RE: Team3S:
Ground Control Group Purchase! -Reply
You'll likely want to consider the
camber adjustment kit for the front for
best results, which GC also
sells.
The stock setup requires notching and fiddling, which is doable
but takes
some potentially finicky effort. There is no camber
adjustment kit for the
rear that I have
seen.
Regards,
Barry
> -----Original
Message-----
>
> Does anyone know if the OEM adjustment range can be
made
> to get the wheels into a proper (non-wearing) alignment
using
> this hardware? (95 VR-4.)
> Regards,
ptg
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Date:
Mon, 17 May 1999 19:54:51 -0700
From: "Jim Berry" <fastmax@home.com>
Subject: Re: Team3S:
Ground Control Group Purchase! -Reply
:
>
>
> Does
anyone know if the OEM adjustment range can be made
> to get the wheels
into a proper (non-wearing) alignment using
> this hardware? (95
VR-4.)
-
----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
If
you leave the ride height stock, the adjustments should remain the
same.
Lowering the car excessively may cause adjustment range
problems.
Jim Berry
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Date:
Mon, 17 May 1999 20:06:08 -0700
From: "Barry E. King" <beking@home.com>
Subject: RE: Team3S:
Ground Control Group Purchase! -Reply
According to GC you should be able
to drop the car in excess of 2" but it is
advised NOT to do that since it
will definitely mess with the steering
geometry and as Jim says adjustability
becomes a serious concern.
The kit isn't intended for "slamming" the car,
but to offer a range of
adjustment for tuning the ride height for performance
handling reasons while
maintaining full suspension travel unlike lowering
springs.
Regards,
Barry
> -----Original
Message-----
> > Does anyone know if the OEM adjustment range can be
made
> > to get the wheels into a proper (non-wearing) alignment
using
> > this hardware? (95 VR-4.)
>
------------------------------------------------------------------
>
----------------------------
>
> If you leave the ride height stock,
the adjustments should remain
> the same.
> Lowering the car
excessively may cause adjustment range problems.
>
> Jim
Berry
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Date:
Mon, 17 May 1999 23:06:41 -0400
From: Bill Wagner <wagner@sprynet.com>
Subject: Re:
Team3S: Racing seats
How much do these seats weigh???
Bill
Wagner
Aso8@aol.com wrote:
>
> For anybody interested in a racing seat...
> I've just chosen the
following for myself.
> Corbeau Forza CSForza
> I have a list price
of $220 with shipping included for each seat
> plus $78.50 for each
bracket. I was also able to get a 5% list discount
> set up for anyone
interested. Mention 3SI list. They can be seen at:
> http://www.sportscar-parts.com/seats.html
>
These seats are rated, approved and cut a bit larger for an American
butt.
> They also make a more padded model called Forza 2 but its
heavier
> BTW, I have not used or sat in them yet so make your own
decisions.
> Arty 91 VR-4
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Date:
Mon, 17 May 1999 23:05:44 -0400
From: "Bill Miller" <millebi@kw.igs.net>
Subject: Team3S:
(Fwd) Water Injection...
Here's an interesting point from the Dragnet
list.
Doug is thinking about building a water injection system for <
$300? (I think). He has
the capability and has made one work in the past, he
is just modifying his old design to
work for a 3S.
Bill
91 TT "Old
Red"
(Maybe we can get him to join the Team3S tech list!)
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Forwarded Message Follows -------
Date forwarded: Mon, 17 May 1999 11:43:48
-0700 (PDT)
Date sent: Mon, 17 May 1999
13:41:53
-0400
From:
Douglas Saylor <doug@natasha.iusb.edu>
To:
"stealth@dragnet.com" <stealth@dragnet.com>
Subject:
Water Injection... 2nd try
Forwarded by: stealth@dragnet.com
Send reply
to: stealth@dragnet.com
Ok, here are
some things I have been thinking about...Lets call them design notes.
1.
Water Pressure
First, the water solution pressure at the jet(s) needs to be
at least 3 bars ( 43.5 psi).
Otherwise, the water will not atomize. I know
what your thinking, I can get water to
atomize at around 20 psi. That's
true, however, remember when your turbos are pushing 17
psi of boost the
differential pressure at the jets would only be 3lbs..barely a drop.
2.
Pump
#1 creates a small problem. Pumps that can do this type on pressure in a
reasonable
amount of space and that handle water are pricey. I know your
thinking fuel pump. A fuel
pump is not designed for water and will fail
shortly. The best choice is a magnetic
piston or gear pump. These are very
expensive. A similar mag piston pump that aquamist
uses runs around $300.
That's only reason it's so pricey.
The solution I think is best is as
follows:
Use a 12vdc air pump like they have to inflate tires. They are
small and cheap about $20.
Use that to pressurize a container with
water. This is cheap and has the advantage of
instant pressure when you need
it - no lag. Containers that can do this are pricey so I
propose to use pvc
pipe with caps. They can be drilled and tapped for much less then
other
containers and will hold the pressure fine. The only problem is the noise of the
pump... they're pretty loud.
3. To control the amount of water a
electronic valve should be used. The water will be
controlled by short
bursts. This can be done with a pulse wave modulator of a micro
controller.
4. Current systems use a pressure switch to turn on. Note
that the high end aquamist uses
a system that I consider to be good and not
just a pressure switch. The water should be
ramped up at boost and rpm
increase. This is easy to do with a micro controller as well.
The rpm sense
could be done with a coil around a spark plug cable.
Most of the cheaper
systems out there do not use a high pressure pump and I question
their
ability to work at high boosts. Also there is no fail safe on the pressure
switch.
If the switch fails closed the pump will dump all the water into the
engine doing some
not so great things.
Doug
95 R/T TT
These
are all my opinions, if you don't agree - good. Tell me why and we can find a
better answer.
Humpty Dumpty was pushed...
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Date:
Mon, 17 May 1999 20:09:30 -0700
From: "Jim Berry" <fastmax@home.com>
Subject: Re: Team3S:
ALL !! Ground Control Group Purchase
> I talked with the guy who is
putting together the group purchase and he
> didn't know so I will ask you
guys. I know there was a lot of talk that if
> you wanted to
go lower then the eibachs you had to cut the frame rail or
> something, do
you hafta do that with this setup? I am thinking about
> selling my
eibach lowering springs and just getting this setup. Can anyone
>
tell me how they like it? Does it work with the stock struts and
ecs?
> Thanks for any info
-
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-
--
The limiting factor when excessively lowering the car is probably
suspension
travel and suspension adjustment. These cars have little
suspension travel
to start with,and lowering them will reduce the travel even
further. If you want
a ground pounder [ more than 1 1/2 or 2" ] you may
require drastic measures.
In addition lowering the car affects the camber and
you will probably exceed
the adjustment
limits.
Jim Berry
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Date:
Mon, 17 May 1999 23:12:39 -0400
From: "Bill Miller" <millebi@kw.igs.net>
Subject: Team3S:
1st Gen Hood scoops
Would anyone be interested in some custom designed
hood scoops for a 1st Gen? I was
talking to my (almost) brother in-law this
weekend and he said it shouldn't be a problem
to put something together. He
is in the "scoot" business (that's an air boat by another
name) and makes
his own propellers for them. He can feed a wooden propeller into one of
his
and it works like a wood chipper! so I think he may know what he's doing. I have
a
1st Gen so I could supply him with the hood "blisters" for making a mold.
The only
question is what ends would a scoop work best and what price would
make it worth
continuing?
Email me privately if anyone is interested
in me persuing this at all.
Bill
91 TT "Old Red"
Humpty Dumpty was
pushed...
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Date:
Mon, 17 May 1999 22:23:47 -0500
From: Merritt <merritt@cedar-rapids.net>
Subject:
RE: Team3S: Ground Control Group Purchase! -Reply
At 08:06 PM 5/17/99
-0700, you wrote:
>According to GC you should be able to drop the car in
excess of 2" but it is
>advised NOT to do that since it will definitely
mess with the steering
>geometry and as Jim says adjustability becomes a
serious concern.
As I understand it, lowering the car increases the
camber (makes the wheels
lean in at the top), which is ideal for racing.
I'm ordering a set so I can drive a perfectly aligned, normal ride
height
car to an open track event.
When I arrive, I'll jack it up,
lower the car, increase the camber, adjust
out the high speed push, and
just have a better handling car. When I'm all
finished at the event, I intend
to jack it up, adjust back to stock height,
and drive home with the car
perfectly aligned once again.
Anybody see a problem with this?
If so,
speak up.
Rich/old poop/94 VR4
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Date:
Mon, 17 May 1999 20:34:15 -0700
From: "Barry E. King" <beking@home.com>
Subject: RE: Team3S:
Ground Control Group Purchase! -Reply
Nope. That'll work just
great. Check the price on their camber kit. It
is
affordable.
Barry
> -----Original
Message-----
>
> At 08:06 PM 5/17/99 -0700, you wrote:
>
>According to GC you should be able to drop the car in excess of
> 2"
but it is
> >advised NOT to do that since it will definitely mess with
the steering
> >geometry and as Jim says adjustability becomes a
serious concern.
>
> As I understand it, lowering the car increases
the camber (makes
> the wheels
> lean in at the top), which is ideal
for racing.
>
> I'm ordering a set so I can drive a perfectly
aligned, normal ride height
> car to an open track event.
>
>
When I arrive, I'll jack it up, lower the car, increase the
>
camber, adjust
> out the high speed push, and just have a better
handling car. When I'm all
> finished at the event, I intend to jack it
up, adjust back to
> stock height,
> and drive home with the car
perfectly aligned once again.
>
> Anybody see a problem with
this?
> If so, speak up.
>
> Rich/old poop/94
VR4
>
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Date:
Mon, 17 May 1999 22:34:29 -0500
From: Merritt <merritt@cedar-rapids.net>
Subject:
RE: Team3S: Ground Control Group Purchase!
Anyone have any thoughts on
what spring rates are most appropriate for open
track driving?
I
notice some push at high speeds, and I'm hoping that lowering the car and
a
higher spring rate will cure the push. But what rate? Same front and
rear?
I'd like to keep the car streetable, too. Will the ECS continue to
work?
Any ideas?
Rich/old poop/94 VR4
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Date:
Mon, 17 May 1999 20:55:18 -0700
From: wce@bc.sympatico.ca
Subject: Re:
Team3S: 1st Gen Hood scoops
Bill;
As in anything, the aesthetics
of the product would be a deciding factor in it's success.
Once you have a
prototype, and I assume good looking one, interest may
balloon.
Best
Darc
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Date:
Mon, 17 May 1999 23:03:55 -0500
From: "Pandya, Raagi" <raagi.pandya@ca.unisys.com>
Subject:
RE: Team3S: Misc thoughts about Ground Control....
Just some comments,
from my previous experience with GC equipment on other
models....
>
As I understand it, lowering the car increases the camber (makes
> the
wheels
> lean in at the top), which is ideal for racing.
>
>
I'm ordering a set so I can drive a perfectly aligned, normal ride
>height
> car to an open track event.
>
> When I arrive,
I'll jack it up, lower the car, increase the
> camber,
adjust
> out the high speed push, and just have a better handling car.
When
> I'm all
> finished at the event, I intend to jack it up,
adjust back to
> stock height,
> and drive home with the car
perfectly aligned once again.
>
> Anybody see a problem with
this?
> If so, speak up.
First off, unfortunately it's not as
simple as 'jacking it up and lowering
it'. Unless you have the car
properly corner-weighted, you risk drastically
altering the steering/handling
balance. If you ever see a track car with
adjustable heights, these
guys invariably spend most of their time corner
weighting the car after EVERY
adjustment.
Essentially, you really should corner-weight it every time,
it's the only
way you can be sure that you haven't made a pronounced mistake
that could
serious bite you at the track.
Corner-weighting is not
that difficult, but you need the right tools.
Check any Racer's Wholesale
(et. al) for the various equipment. It's not
that expensive. Of
course corner-weighting is a great adjustment tool for
getting that perfect
track set-up...
Secondly, I can't speak for the 3KGT/Stealth, but most
cars, after having
been 'adjusted' up-or-down, will require a front-end
alignment. Otherwise
you'll have to 'accept' a compromise alignment setting,
which may be
acceptable at the track, but totally unsuitable on the street,
or
vice-versa.
Thirdly, I don't know if everyone understands this, but
the GC has no
provisions for actual 'settings', it's essentially one big
threaded collar.
You cannot (as it is shipped) set specific levels (for
example, one for the
track, one for the street). You can attempt to
'mark' the threads, or count
rotations, but there are no discreet
'notches'. This makes adjusting rather
difficult, and once again,
you'll probably have to corner-weight it after
every adjustment just to be
sure the car is level.
I have seen 'other' adjustable height collars,
which have several fixed
'grooves' for adjustability, instead of one big
threaded collar. GAB has
this type of assembly (for various cars, but
invariably not for the 3KGT).
This would seem to be a slightly easier
solution, as you can set the height
to 'three from the bottom'.
The
ultimate set-up would be to have the GAB-type adjustable collars, with
a
similar set-up for adjusting the camber, toe and caster. That way you
arrive
at the track, set the adjustable struts at 2, the adjustable springs
at 3,
the camber at -3' and zero toe all around. Then after, set it all
back to
normal. Now all you need is for someone to build
it.....
Comments, questions, any non-flames welcome
:)
Regards
Raagi Pandya
Montreal, Canada
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Date:
Mon, 17 May 1999 21:17:20 -0700
From: "Barry E. King" <beking@home.com>
Subject: RE: Team3S:
Ground Control Group Purchase!
> Anyone have any thoughts on what
spring rates are most
> appropriate for open
> track
driving?
See below.
> I notice some push at high speeds, and
I'm hoping that lowering
> the car and
> a higher spring rate will
cure the push. But what rate? Same
> front and rear?
Loading is in
the neighborhood of 60% front, 40% rear. Probably closer
to
55/45. You'll want to balance springs accordingly plus give
consideration
to weight transfer under braking. Talk to Jay at GC, tell
him what you want
to do with the car and he should be able to zero you in
pretty quickly.
> I'd like to keep the car streetable, too. Will the
ECS continue to work?
ECS goes away when the stock struts are
replaced. Should work if you keep
the stock struts. However, I
suspect that the new springs won't be the best
match to the stock
struts. You may want to give serious consideration to
getting GABs or
perhaps something that GC offers to round out the package.
> Any
ideas?
Always ;)
> Rich/old poop/94
VR4
Regards,
Barry
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Date:
Mon, 17 May 1999 21:14:30 -0700
From: "Jim Berry" <fastmax@home.com>
Subject: Re: Team3S:
1st Gen Hood scoops
: 1st Gen Hood scoops
> 1st Gen so I could
supply him with the hood "blisters" for making a mold. The only
> question
is what ends would a scoop work best and what price would make it worth
>
continuing?
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-----------------
In response to which direction the scoops should point
--- I posted some weeks ago
that I installed motors on my 93 Stealth scoops
such that they open about 21/2" in front.
Some very preliminary temperature
measurements show little improvement in intake air
temp. Since they're
electrically operated I can open and close them while driving and
I didn't
see any drastic changes in temperature.
Extraction scoops may work
better but I have no information on their effectiveness.
I plan on doing
additional testing on my scoops when these group purchases quit
draining my
pocketbook.
Jim berry
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Date:
Mon, 17 May 1999 23:26:54 -0500
From: "Owens, Trent L." <Trent.Owens@destia.com>
Subject:
RE: Team3S: 1st Gen Hood scoops
In response to the direction of the
scoops:
What if you directed the opening of the right "blister" scoop to
the front.
(forcing air in) AND Direct the left opening towards the
windshield as to
create air flow through the engine bay. This will keep
fresh air coming in
at or near the filter element giving it the coolest
possible charge air.
Since the engine bay is "sealed" so effectively the
"East->West" air flow
will (In theory) keep the cool air where it should
be. (near the filter)
What do you think?
Trent
Owens.
- -----Original Message-----
From: Jim Berry [mailto:fastmax@home.com]
Sent: Monday, May
17, 1999 11:15 PM
To: stealth-3000gt@list.sirius.com
Subject:
Re: Team3S: 1st Gen Hood scoops
: 1st Gen Hood scoops
> 1st Gen
so I could supply him with the hood "blisters" for making a mold.
The
only
> question is what ends would a scoop work best and what price would
make it
worth
> continuing?
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In response to which
direction the scoops should point --- I posted some
weeks ago
that I
installed motors on my 93 Stealth scoops such that they open about
21/2" in
front.
Some very preliminary temperature measurements show little improvement
in
intake air
temp. Since they're electrically operated I can open and
close them while
driving and
I didn't see any drastic changes in
temperature.
Extraction scoops may work better but I have no
information on their
effectiveness.
I plan on doing additional testing on
my scoops when these group purchases
quit
draining my
pocketbook.
Jim berry
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Date:
Tue, 18 May 1999 00:32:09 EDT
From: TurboDrvn@aol.com
Subject: Team3S: Temp.
gauge
Hi all,
I hit a major pot hole today! Scared the sh--
out of me! I noticed
that my temp. gauge was reading at a higher temp.
than usual after I hit that
pot hole. I wonder if I hit the pot hole
so hard (yes, it did bend my wheel)
that it caused a fuse to break or a
relay to become defective. I checked
the fans while the car was
running; and only the passenger side radiator fan
was running - NOT the
driver's side. The temp. gauge is not reading too
high, though; just
higher than my normal range of almost half way when hot.
Any ideas?
Thanks,
Ahmed - '92 VR4
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Date:
Tue, 18 May 1999 11:59:40 -0500
From: xwing <xwing@execpc.com>
Subject: Team3S: Re:
transmission questions.
TurboDrvn@aol.com wrote:
>
<< someone on the message boards was experimenting w/putting in a corvette
6
> spd. >>
> I believe 6 speed vette trans is by
Getrag;
> our car, Supra, Corvette and
> Camaro.
>
I'll keep list posted with my progress.
>
> Ahmed "AL-Crazy" - '92
VR4
The Vette etc. trans will not work.
The basic problem is that OUR
engine is TRANSVERSE
(mounted sideways) and has 3 (THREE) power
output
points coming out of the transmission: 2 for front wheels,
and
one coming out BACK toward engine going INTO transfer case
which
changes direction of shaft rotation from SIDEWAYS
to LONGITUDINAL
(going front-to-back) to get to
rear differential. Corvette, Supra etc
are REARwheel
drive and have very simple trans bolting to engine,
and
power output going from engine BACK to trans BACK to
rear
differential.
I don't know what internal parts may be
interchangeable,
if any. I have been unable to get hold of my
Getrag
contacts for over a month ++...
Of interest: Getrag is making
the trans for an upcoming
Audi AWD of about 350hp, I wonder what trans
THAT
uses, if it is heavier duty than ours etc.
Getrag calls our 5-speeds
"440" transaxles; the
6-speeds are called "446" transaxles in their
company's
naming system.
Jack Tertadian
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Kou for Ground Control group purchase, or
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Date:
Tue, 18 May 1999 02:33:16 EDT
From: TrAmSoOtRu@aol.com
Subject: Re: Team3S:
Ground Control Group Purchase! -Reply
In a message dated 5/17/99 10:03:31
PM Central Daylight Time, beking@home.com
writes:
<< According to GC you should be able to drop the car
in excess of 2" but it
is
advised NOT to do that since it will
definitely mess with the steering
geometry and as Jim says
adjustability becomes a serious concern.
The kit isn't
intended for "slamming" the car, but to offer a range of
adjustment for
tuning the ride height for performance handling reasons
while
maintaining full suspension travel unlike lowering
springs.
Regards,
Barry
>>
This sounds like what i want.. WOuld a drop of 2.25 be WAY
to much do you all
think? I am not looking for the "G funk, low rider look"
I am going for the
lowered, racecar look. : ) and would like to have good
suspension..
jeff.
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Date:
Tue, 18 May 1999 02:34:22 EDT
From: TrAmSoOtRu@aol.com
Subject: Re: Team3S:
(Fwd) Water Injection...
In a message dated 5/17/99 10:07:10 PM Central
Daylight Time,
millebi@kw.igs.net
writes:
<< Doug is thinking about building a water injection system
for < $300? (I
think). He has
the capability and has made one
work in the past, he is just modifying his
old design to
work for
a 3S.
Bill >>
Will he be selling these?
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Date:
Tue, 18 May 1999 01:50:01 -0500 (CDT)
From: BDLSOO7@webtv.net (chris hill)
Subject:
Team3S: turbo question
there is a japanese website out there, with a gto
using twin TDO5 units,
from dsm's. would this be a difficult mod. someone on
this list posted
the website sometime ago,and i forgot the thing. anyway, it
was in
japanese, so the only thing i could understand was the pictures. i
could
be wrong ,but i think these units were 14B, unlike my 9B 1st,
generation
vr4 TDO4's.
someone overseas made them work, so why cant we? if
anyone knows
anything about this mod, let me know if its fesable. thanks
again.
chris
hill
91,vr4
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Date:
Tue, 18 May 1999 03:11:28 -0700
From: Nick Xiong <nxiong@juno.com>
Subject: Re: Team3S:
1st Gen Hood scoops
I believe this topic has come up before on the
starnet list. Call me
crazy but I would want a scoop w/BOTH openings in
the front & rear for
max air flow (w/a possible divider in the
middle). As to whether this
fresh air will reach the FIPK or not , I
doubt it because of the forward
motion of the car (most air is coming from
front) and the FIPK is too far
forward of the strut cover opening. But
these vents will aid greatly in
cooling the engine, once parked. I
drove my VR4 around w/o strut tower
covers on (ugly I know) and you can see
the heat coming out when parked.
The best route for fresh air is quite
simply, punch a hole in the hood
right before the FIPK. I plan to go
this route when I have the $$$ and
can find a shop capable of such. I
think it'll look sweet w/a little
ferrari/naca style duct on the hood.
I need a new paint job on the hood
anyway.
I even pondered taking off
the pop up lights (just for racing purposes),
but the lights are enclosed in
by a wall (that combined w/the bump
[crumple zone support?] in the hood won't
let much air pass) and then the
fuse box is the next big obstacle before the
FIPK. On my Supra when I
take of the passenger headlight, it's perfect
for fresh air to go right
into the K&N (RS akimoto). I even drove
around like this and it does
make a seat of the pants difference.
On
another note, I may have found a shop that can fabricate a DP that
eliminates
both precats on the VR4 and for a good price. I'll be
contacing them
later this week. They work solely on race cars & such and
they're
located close to Atlanta Dragway.
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Date:
Tue, 18 May 1999 03:20:05 -0700
From: Nick Xiong <nxiong@juno.com>
Subject: Re: Team3S:
Ground Control Group Purchase! -Reply
OK I'm kinda lost two, what exactly
are we buying?? struts? springs?
or BOTH?? and they're
height adjustable??? dam I just bought RSRs...
On Mon, 17 May 1999
17:26:10 -0400 Gavin Wallis <wallisg@mwaa.com>
writes:
>Sounds
like something i'd like to be in on. Except, i dunno what they
>do>exactly ;). Someone give up the
goodies.
>
>Thanks,
>Gavin
>
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Date:
Tue, 18 May 1999 03:05:08 -0400
From: Jason Barnhart <phnxgld@erols.com>
Subject: Re:
Team3S: G C Purchase link to answer questions.
Follow the link for more
info... It's springs with an adjustable mounting plate, you
retain the
original struts and ECS if you have it.
http://www.ground-control.com/
Nick
Xiong wrote:
> OK I'm kinda lost two, what exactly are we
buying?? struts? springs?
> or BOTH?? and they're height
adjustable??? dam I just bought RSRs...
>
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Date:
Tue, 18 May 1999 06:14:45 -0400
From: Joshua <joshua@princelaw.com>
Subject: RE:
Team3S: Re: transmission questions.
The guy kept his case and replaced
the gretag gearbox with a corvette
gearbox so he still has 4 wheel drive
etc...
-----Original Message-----
From: xwing [mailto:xwing@execpc.com]
Sent: Tuesday,
May 18, 1999 1:00 PM
To: stealth-3000gt@list.sirius.com
Subject:
Team3S: Re: transmission questions.
TurboDrvn@aol.com wrote:
>
<< someone on the message boards was experimenting
w/putting in a
corvette 6
> spd. >>
> I believe 6 speed vette trans is
by Getrag;
> our car, Supra, Corvette and
>
Camaro.
> I'll keep list posted with my progress.
>
> Ahmed
"AL-Crazy" - '92 VR4
The Vette etc. trans will not work.
The basic
problem is that OUR engine is TRANSVERSE
(mounted sideways) and has 3 (THREE)
power output
points coming out of the transmission: 2 for front
wheels,
and
one coming out BACK toward engine going INTO transfer
case
which
changes direction of shaft rotation from SIDEWAYS
to
LONGITUDINAL (going front-to-back) to get to
rear differential.
Corvette, Supra etc are REARwheel
drive and have very simple trans bolting to
engine, and
power output going from engine BACK to trans BACK to
rear
differential.
I don't know what internal parts may be
interchangeable,
if any. I have been unable to get hold of my
Getrag
contacts for over a month ++...
Of interest: Getrag is making
the trans for an upcoming
Audi AWD of about 350hp, I wonder what trans
THAT
uses, if it is heavier duty than ours etc.
Getrag calls our 5-speeds
"440" transaxles; the
6-speeds are called "446" transaxles in their
company's
naming system.
Jack Tertadian
PS Contact Joe
Kou for Ground Control group purchase, or
goto website http://www.ground-control.com
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Date:
Tue, 18 May 1999 08:06:50 EDT
From: SHaBEEF@aol.com
Subject: Team3S: Tire
Question-Off topic
Can you Fit a 315-35-17 on a 17by9inch wheel? I just
want to know if it will
fit!
Thanks
Cliff
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