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Team3S Digest           Monday, May 17 1999           Volume 01 : Number 180




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Date: Sat, 15 May 1999 14:21:38 -0700
From: Nick Xiong <nxiong@juno.com>
Subject: Re: Team3S: Dealer experience & transmission questions.

someone on the message boards was experimenting w/putting in a corvette 6
spd.

>1)   Is there any way to install another type of transmission into a
>1st. >generation > VR4?   Such as installing a 4th. generation Twin
Turbo Supra
>six >speed trans?  I > believe the Supra transmission is also made by
Getrag.  What >alterations would I > have to perform to the Supra trans.
(rear wheel drive) to >comply with >my AWD set up?

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Date: Sun, 16 May 1999 07:08:33 -0700
From: wce@bc.sympatico.ca
Subject: Re: Team3S: Best clutch??

Hi Joshua;

It depends how hard you are on your clutch/what you use it for. I know individuals with
the same setup/similar setup to yours, who opt for the stock clutch as a replacement, as
it is more forgiving and more accomodating on a daily driver basis. On the other hand, a
whole gambit of race oriented clutches are available. I, and a number of use within Team
3S,  just finished with a group purchase for a new carbon fiber clutch, but it is still
too early for any of us to give feedback. Most, if not all of us, have not received it
yet.

Best

Darc

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Date: Sun, 16 May 1999 07:32:27 -0700
From: wce@bc.sympatico.ca
Subject: Re: Team3S: Dealer experience & transmission questions.

Ahmed;

In response to your questions;

1). I haven't heard of anyone installing another breed of tranny in our vehicles,
although a 3S  in South America appears to likely have some kind of unusual setup which
has not been thus far described in any literature I have read.( I believe a picture of
it is at Todd's site.)  Just upgrading from 1st to 2nd generation trannies is expensive
and time consuming, so I would expect a hybrid project ( possibly like the South
American) might be a long expensive undertaking.
2-3) No one has posted any phone number, and Jack's interaction with an unnamed source
for the one time synchro order he so generously undertook, is likely not to be ever
disclosed for reasons of confidentiality.
4-6) I believe Brad (Bedell)  has upgraded from a first to second generation
transmission and his posts on it should be in our archives. There are likely others as
well, but as he has a small business which devotes itself in  part to 3S vehicles, you
might want to contact him.


Good luck and post back on your success.

Best

Darc

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Date: Sun, 16 May 1999 10:32:09 -0400
From: Joshua <joshua@princelaw.com>
Subject: RE: Team3S: Dealer experience & transmission questions.

On the 3si website there was a discussion of someone saying a corvette
gearbox was used.  But the person won't say who it was cause the guy who did
it is apparently talking with the Transmission shop.  He did say it was
around $2500-$3000.  I know if mine ever goes, that's what I am gonna look
into.  Screw Gretag

-----Original Message-----
From: wce@bc.sympatico.ca [mailto:wce@bc.sympatico.ca]
Sent: Sunday, May 16, 1999 10:32 AM
To: stealth-3000gt@list.sirius.com
Subject: Re: Team3S: Dealer experience & transmission
questions.

Ahmed;

In response to your questions;

1). I haven't heard of anyone installing another breed of
tranny in our vehicles,
although a 3S  in South America appears to likely have some
kind of unusual setup which
has not been thus far described in any literature I have
read.( I believe a picture of
it is at Todd's site.)  Just upgrading from 1st to 2nd
generation trannies is expensive
and time consuming, so I would expect a hybrid project (
possibly like the South
American) might be a long expensive undertaking.
2-3) No one has posted any phone number, and Jack's
interaction with an unnamed source
for the one time synchro order he so generously undertook,
is likely not to be ever
disclosed for reasons of confidentiality.
4-6) I believe Brad (Bedell)  has upgraded from a first to
second generation
transmission and his posts on it should be in our archives.
There are likely others as
well, but as he has a small business which devotes itself in
part to 3S vehicles, you
might want to contact him.


Good luck and post back on your success.

Best

Darc

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Date: Sun, 16 May 1999 08:36:54 -0700
From: wce@bc.sympatico.ca
Subject: Re: Team3S: Dealer experience & transmission questions.

Joshua wrote:

> On the 3si website there was a discussion of someone saying a corvette
> gearbox was used.  But the person won't say who it was cause the guy who did
> it is apparently talking with the Transmission shop.  He did say it was
> around $2500-$3000.  I know if mine ever goes, that's what I am gonna look
> into.  Screw Gretag

Sounds too good to be true...both the price and the make...and
you know what they say about things that sound too good to be
true!!  However, if you find out more about it  in concrete terms,
please post back for those who are also weary of the Getrag
Blues.

Best

Darc

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Date: Sun, 16 May 1999 12:43:13 -0400
From: Joshua <joshua@princelaw.com>
Subject: RE: Team3S: Best clutch??

Well which clutch will last the longest?  If I am gonna change it, I want
something that will last and take a lil abuse.  It isn't gonna be taken to
the track but the occasional race on the street is possible :-) Thanks for
any input.

-----Original Message-----
From: wce@bc.sympatico.ca [mailto:wce@bc.sympatico.ca]
Sent: Sunday, May 16, 1999 10:09 AM
To: stealth-3000gt@list.sirius.com
Subject: Re: Team3S: Best clutch??

Hi Joshua;

It depends how hard you are on your clutch/what you use it
for. I know individuals with
the same setup/similar setup to yours, who opt for the stock
clutch as a replacement, as
it is more forgiving and more accomodating on a daily driver
basis. On the other hand, a
whole gambit of race oriented clutches are available. I, and
a number of use within Team
3S,  just finished with a group purchase for a new carbon
fiber clutch, but it is still
too early for any of us to give feedback. Most, if not all
of us, have not received it
yet.

Best

Darc

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Date: Sun, 16 May 1999 11:14:29 -0700
From: "Terry Swift" <tlswift@hotbot.com>
Subject: Re: Team3S: Dealer experience & transmission questions.

David J. mentioned that a couple of weeks ago, but no news since then.  He was hoping the person who was doing this would reveal themselves.  From where David live, in the San Fran eastbay, it probably is one of the guys up there trying something out.
- --

On Sun, 16 May 1999 08:36:54   wce wrote:
>
>
>Joshua wrote:
>
>> On the 3si website there was a discussion of someone saying a corvette
>> gearbox was used.  But the person won't say who it was cause the guy who did
>> it is apparently talking with the Transmission shop.  He did say it was
>> around $2500-$3000.  I know if mine ever goes, that's what I am gonna look
>> into.  Screw Gretag
>
>Sounds too good to be true...both the price and the make...and
>you know what they say about things that sound too good to be
>true!!  However, if you find out more about it  in concrete terms,
>please post back for those who are also weary of the Getrag
>Blues.
>
>Best
>
>Darc
>
>For subscribe/unsubscribe info, our web page is http://www.bobforrest.com/Team3S.htm
>


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Date: Sun, 16 May 1999 14:15:57 -0400
From: Joshua <joshua@princelaw.com>
Subject: RE: Team3S: Dealer experience & transmission questions.

I believe he said the guy lives in Texas.

-----Original Message-----
From: Terry Swift [mailto:tlswift@hotbot.com]
Sent: Sunday, May 16, 1999 2:14 PM
To: stealth-3000gt@list.sirius.com
Subject: Re: Team3S: Dealer experience & transmission
questions.

David J. mentioned that a couple of weeks ago, but no news
since then.  He was hoping the person who was doing this would reveal
themselves.  From where David live, in the San Fran eastbay, it probably is
one of the guys up there trying something out.
--

On Sun, 16 May 1999 08:36:54   wce wrote:
>
>
>Joshua wrote:
>
>> On the 3si website there was a discussion of someone
saying a corvette
>> gearbox was used.  But the person won't say who it was
cause the guy who did
>> it is apparently talking with the Transmission shop.  He
did say it was
>> around $2500-$3000.  I know if mine ever goes, that's
what I am gonna look
>> into.  Screw Gretag
>
>Sounds too good to be true...both the price and the
make...and
>you know what they say about things that sound too good to
be
>true!!  However, if you find out more about it  in concrete
terms,
>please post back for those who are also weary of the Getrag
>Blues.
>
>Best
>
>Darc
>
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http://www.bobforrest.com/Team3S.htm
>


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Date: Sun, 16 May 1999 15:05:56 -0400
From: Joshua <joshua@princelaw.com>
Subject: Team3S: Someone on the dragnet list found this out

I don't know enough about it, I thought maybe one of you guys might.  Sound
interesting

Guys,

I found a water injection kit. Plus it is less than $200 bucks. Those of
you who have some expertise on the subject please check it out and advise
the rest of us on its quality and design.

Follow this url:http://www.cnw.com/%7eredline/waterinjectionkit.htm

Thanks, Glenn

GCope - Panama Green Pearl 92 VR4
www.forgedesign.com/mycar/


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Date: Sun, 16 May 1999 12:39:00 -0700
From: "Barry E. King" <beking@home.com>
Subject: RE: Team3S: Someone on the dragnet list found this out

The Spearco kit is not the greatest.  It has a weak pump and the water
resevoir is kind of cheap.  It also has no sight glass.

Here's a kit that is nearly as inexpensive and far superior:

http://www.bowlinggreencustoms.com/gncat/gncat.html

There's also the ERL AquaMist if the pocketbook is feeling particularly
deep.  Just search for ERL and AquaMist and you'll find it.


Barry

> -----Original Message-----
>
>
> I don't know enough about it, I thought maybe one of you guys
> might.  Sound
> interesting
>
> Guys,
>
> I found a water injection kit. Plus it is less than $200 bucks. Those of
> you who have some expertise on the subject please check it out and advise
> the rest of us on its quality and design.
>
> Follow this url:http://www.cnw.com/%7eredline/waterinjectionkit.htm
>
> Thanks, Glenn

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Date: Sun, 16 May 1999 15:36:30 -0400
From: Joshua <joshua@princelaw.com>
Subject: RE: Team3S: Someone on the dragnet list found this out

All I saw was an alcohol system... was that what you were talking about?? 

-----Original Message-----
From: Barry E. King [mailto:beking@home.com]
Sent: Sunday, May 16, 1999 3:39 PM
To: stealth-3000gt@list.sirius.com
Subject: RE: Team3S: Someone on the dragnet list
found this out

The Spearco kit is not the greatest.  It has a weak pump and
the water
resevoir is kind of cheap.  It also has no sight glass.

Here's a kit that is nearly as inexpensive and far superior:

http://www.bowlinggreencustoms.com/gncat/gncat.html

There's also the ERL AquaMist if the pocketbook is feeling
particularly
deep.  Just search for ERL and AquaMist and you'll find it.


Barry

> -----Original Message-----
>
>
> I don't know enough about it, I thought maybe one of you
guys
> might.  Sound
> interesting
>
> Guys,
>
> I found a water injection kit. Plus it is less than $200
bucks. Those of
> you who have some expertise on the subject please check it
out and advise
> the rest of us on its quality and design.
>
> Follow this
url:http://www.cnw.com/%7eredline/waterinjectionkit.htm
>
> Thanks, Glenn

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Date: Sun, 16 May 1999 15:38:54 -0400
From: Joshua <joshua@princelaw.com>
Subject: Team3S: Question about auto-tinting rearview

I was curious how they make the rearview mirrors auto tinting.  I know you
just hit the switch and you can select how deep of a tint and it changes in
a couple secs.  How do they do this?  Is there anyway to do this to the
windows?  Here in Pa some of the cops like busting people for tinted
windows, but if I could make that go away, really quick, I think it would be
cool.  Any ideas?  Thanks for any and all info.
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Date: Sun, 16 May 1999 22:20:58 +0200
From: Mike Chapleski <mike.chapleski@ibm.net>
Subject: Re: Team3S: Best clutch??

Joshua,
    With that setup, you are looking at either a stock ($300?) or a Centerforce Dual
Friction ($500 from NOPI).  The stock clutch is cheaper, and does not really have a
break in period.  I personally believe it can take the abuse of a 5000 RPM dump a lot
better than others.  The Centerforce clutch is a little more expensive, but the clutch
feel is lighter.  Also, it is more of an on/off engagement than the stock clutch.
However, because of this, it does not handle high RPM DUMPS very well.  People who use
this clutch successfully have learned to let the clutch out easily till it slightly
engages then as the car JUST starts moving you fully release the clutch.  I believe this
technic and the Centerforce clutch will give you faster times.  However, the biggest
problem with the Centerforce is that it requires a 500 mile city driving break-in
period.  This is a must.  If it is not done and you do a launch before the clutch
material has been able to cure properly, you will ruin the clutch.

Hope this helps,

Mike C.
0018
'95 Stealth RT TT


Joshua wrote:

> Well which clutch will last the longest?  If I am gonna change it, I want
> something that will last and take a lil abuse.  It isn't gonna be taken to
> the track but the occasional race on the street is possible :-) Thanks for
> any input.
>
>                 -----Original Message-----
>                 From:   wce@bc.sympatico.ca [mailto:wce@bc.sympatico.ca]
>                 Sent:   Sunday, May 16, 1999 10:09 AM
>                 To:     stealth-3000gt@list.sirius.com
>                 Subject:        Re: Team3S: Best clutch??
>
>                 Hi Joshua;
>
>                 It depends how hard you are on your clutch/what you use it
> for. I know individuals with
>                 the same setup/similar setup to yours, who opt for the stock
> clutch as a replacement, as
>                 it is more forgiving and more accomodating on a daily driver
> basis. On the other hand, a
>                 whole gambit of race oriented clutches are available. I, and
> a number of use within Team
>                 3S,  just finished with a group purchase for a new carbon
> fiber clutch, but it is still
>                 too early for any of us to give feedback. Most, if not all
> of us, have not received it
>                 yet.
>
>                 Best
>
>                 Darc
>
>                 For subscribe/unsubscribe info, our web page is
> http://www.bobforrest.com/Team3S.htm
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Date: Sun, 16 May 1999 16:29:01 -0400
From: Joshua <joshua@princelaw.com>
Subject: RE: Team3S: Best clutch??

Thanks a lot.  I am considering the Centerforce clutch, but I also heard
about the ACT clutch.  I was curious if anyone knew how they compared.  Also
is Nexus one of the best places to buy them?? Thanks

-----Original Message-----
From: Mike Chapleski [mailto:mike.chapleski@ibm.net]
Sent: Sunday, May 16, 1999 4:21 PM
To: stealth-3000gt@list.sirius.com
Subject: Re: Team3S: Best clutch??

Joshua,
    With that setup, you are looking at either a stock
($300?) or a Centerforce Dual
Friction ($500 from NOPI).  The stock clutch is cheaper, and
does not really have a
break in period.  I personally believe it can take the abuse
of a 5000 RPM dump a lot
better than others.  The Centerforce clutch is a little more
expensive, but the clutch
feel is lighter.  Also, it is more of an on/off engagement
than the stock clutch.
However, because of this, it does not handle high RPM DUMPS
very well.  People who use
this clutch successfully have learned to let the clutch out
easily till it slightly
engages then as the car JUST starts moving you fully release
the clutch.  I believe this
technic and the Centerforce clutch will give you faster
times.  However, the biggest
problem with the Centerforce is that it requires a 500 mile
city driving break-in
period.  This is a must.  If it is not done and you do a
launch before the clutch
material has been able to cure properly, you will ruin the
clutch.

Hope this helps,

Mike C.
0018
'95 Stealth RT TT


Joshua wrote:

> Well which clutch will last the longest?  If I am gonna
change it, I want
> something that will last and take a lil abuse.  It isn't
gonna be taken to
> the track but the occasional race on the street is
possible :-) Thanks for
> any input.
>
>                 -----Original Message-----
>                 From:   wce@bc.sympatico.ca
[mailto:wce@bc.sympatico.ca]
>                 Sent:   Sunday, May 16, 1999 10:09 AM
>                 To:     stealth-3000gt@list.sirius.com
>                 Subject:        Re: Team3S: Best clutch??
>
>                 Hi Joshua;
>
>                 It depends how hard you are on your
clutch/what you use it
> for. I know individuals with
>                 the same setup/similar setup to yours, who
opt for the stock
> clutch as a replacement, as
>                 it is more forgiving and more accomodating
on a daily driver
> basis. On the other hand, a
>                 whole gambit of race oriented clutches are
available. I, and
> a number of use within Team
>                 3S,  just finished with a group purchase
for a new carbon
> fiber clutch, but it is still
>                 too early for any of us to give feedback.
Most, if not all
> of us, have not received it
>                 yet.
>
>                 Best
>
>                 Darc
>
>                 For subscribe/unsubscribe info, our web
page is
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Date: Sun, 16 May 1999 13:46:17 -0700
From: "Barry E. King" <beking@home.com>
Subject: RE: Team3S: Best clutch??

I have been dealing with Chien for quite some time now.  In my experience he
is both honest and fair and his prices are reasonable if not great.  Vendors
like Nexus should be rewared with business.

No, I don't get kickbacks.  ;)


Barry

> -----Original Message-----
>
> Thanks a lot.  I am considering the Centerforce clutch, but I also heard
> about the ACT clutch.  I was curious if anyone knew how they
> compared.  Also
> is Nexus one of the best places to buy them?? Thanks

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Date: Sun, 16 May 1999 23:15:46 +0200
From: "R.G." <robby@swissonline.ch>
Subject: Re: Team3S: Question about auto-tinting rearview

Well, a side topic but here a small explanation :

> I was curious how they make the rearview mirrors auto tinting.  I know you
> just hit the switch and you can select how deep of a tint and it changes in
> a couple secs.

They use a liquid cristal screen that visibility is controlled by the voltage
given. Just look at any LCD screen and change the contrast on it. This is the
same technique used on the rearview mirrors.

> windows?  Here in Pa some of the cops like busting people for tinted
> windows, but if I could make that go away, really quick, I think it would be
> cool.  Any ideas?

No way to do this with LCD technique. But there is also a paint in development
that can change its color by applying some voltage. This should then also work
on windows and some prototyps have been tested in offices to work like
sunshades. Well, the price is very high and I think not worth thinking about it
as it is still not in production.

Hope this helps,
Roger

- -----------------------
Roger Gerl, Switzerland
93'3000GT TwinTurbo (Animale Rosso)

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Date: Sun, 16 May 1999 23:07:53 +0200
From: "R.G." <robby@swissonline.ch>
Subject: Re: Team3S: Water Injection

During my investiogations about WI systems, I also found those systems and
searched for related articles.

The Spearco WI kit is a cheap starter kit (somewhat old) for engines with a max
displacement of 2 liters. But even on a Celica GT four the amount of water
delivered last only for a max boost of around 15-18psi.

The system for the Grand National V6 is bigger and is able to deliver more
water/alcohol but also here boost seems to be limited due to the pumps power
that is supported by the boost produced by the turbos. Also the water sprayed in
is not that fine as with the ERL system due to the smaller pump and the pressure
that varies.

Unfortunately, the ERL (Aqualist) System 1 is the most expensive one as the
older "normal" pump has been discontinued and only the race pump is available
now. But this system is the most sophisticated one on the market and some Rally
teams trusted them with succsess. While the other systems are using the produced
pressure from the turbos for spraying the stuff into the upstream the ERL is
independant to this and produces the same pattern on every boost level. This
helps to upgrade the system with a System 2 that finally allows to tune up a 3D
water/boost/rpm map... the best you can have.

Generally, a mixture of water/alcohol to be sprayed infront the TB gives the
best results and is able to produce detonation stability like running with fuel
of up to 140 octane (or even more). This will allow you to increase boost to a
high level without the danger of melting something in the chamber.
Of course, our injectors are getting maxed out around 15psi and the fuel system
needs to be upgraded before the WI system can be added.
The water reservoir for the windshield washer can be used for the water/alcohol
without a problem and it's not really necessary to get another one. Our EU cars
do have an additional water reservoir in the bumper that is used for the lamp
sprays. I'll use this reservoir for the water as it is big enough and do have a
sensor for a low level too (that lights up the orange lamp). The ERL pump is
bigger than the others due to its power needed to produce an very good fog when
pressed through the nozzle. So the biggest problem is where to place the pump in
the engine compartment (I just found a way) and where to install the nozzle
(still not solved on our cars)

On my car the ERL System 1 (or system 2 directly) will be installed as soon as
the fuel upgrades found their way into their locations. Unfortunately, this
takes more time as expected and I have to show the car to the gov. pretty soon
too (without any mods....don't ask).

Regards,
Roger

- -----------------------
Roger Gerl, Switzerland
93'3000GT TwinTurbo (Animale Rosso)


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Date: Sun, 16 May 1999 17:51:25 EDT
From: TrAmSoOtRu@aol.com
Subject: Re: Team3S: Someone on the dragnet list found this out

In a message dated 5/16/99 2:38:19 PM Central Daylight Time, beking@home.com
writes:

<< http://www.bowlinggreencustoms.com/gncat/gncat.html >>

Can the DOHC NA Stealths benefit from these water injection systems?
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Date: Sun, 16 May 1999 21:02:47 EDT
From: "Rice-Burner Crusher" <stealth_es@hotmail.com>
Subject: Team3S: battery warning light

Tonight, on the way home from work, I noticied something flickering on my
dashboard as I went through the turns.  I kept my eye on it, and I finally
decided it was a picture of a battery.

The battery warning light goes on when I go through turns.  It doesn't stay
on, it only flickers and stays on for a second at the most.  It happened to
me during every turn I went through, and this is the first time I've seen it
come on.  I looked at the voltage indicator on the dash on the far right,
and it looked normal. It said it was at 14V.  Could a cable be loose?  I
have tried to jumpstart someone within the past couple of months.  Would
that have done this?

Please help me..  Do I need to get a new battery??  Should I take it into
Trak Auto or PepBoys and have them check it out??

Thanks for any and all help...


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Date: Sun, 16 May 1999 21:40:18 -0400
From: Michael Booker <mrbook@gate.net>
Subject: Re: Team3S: battery warning light

If it's over on the right side, near the bottom, and is yellow, then
it's your coolant ondicator light. fill up the overflow tank to correct
the problem. It could also be the windshield washer reservoir. Fill both
up, and it should correct the problem.

Matt
#311
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Date: Mon, 17 May 1999 13:38:28 +1200
From: Kevin Clark <Kevin.Clark@hnz.co.nz>
Subject: RE: Team3S: battery warning light

> The battery warning light goes on when I go through turns. 
> It doesn't stay on, it only flickers and stays on for a
> second at the most. 

Was it orange or red?  In the center of the console or to
the right...  I ask because the symptoms sound like your
washer fluid level.  Have a look at item "G" at this site
http://beam.to/GTO_Manual to determine if it is indeed the
washer fluid.

> I looked at the voltage indicator on the dash on the far
> right, and it looked normal. It said it was at 14V.

Hmm...  I do not have one of these in my GTO, I assume that
this is a Stealth?  If it is not the washer fluid then you
will need to check all terminals, etc...

Cheers,
Kevin Clark
'91 GTO-VR4
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Date: Sun, 16 May 1999 20:46:56 -0500
From: "Paul T. Golley" <ptgolley@ro.com>
Subject: Re: Team3S: 60K Service...

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Date: Sun, 16 May 1999 21:24:31 -0500
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Date: Sun, 16 May 1999 23:24:48 -0400
From: Bill Wagner <wagner@sprynet.com>
Subject: Re: Team3S: battery warning light

Are you sure it's the battery light?? What you're describing happens
often if the coolant is a little low. As you go around the corner, the
marginally low coolant sloshes to one side and gives a very brief
coolant light. The light is the strangest looking coolant symbol I've
ever seen.

Rice-Burner Crusher wrote:
>
> Tonight, on the way home from work, I noticied something flickering on my
> dashboard as I went through the turns.  I kept my eye on it, and I finally
> decided it was a picture of a battery.
>
> The battery warning light goes on when I go through turns.  It doesn't stay
> on, it only flickers and stays on for a second at the most.  It happened to
> me during every turn I went through, and this is the first time I've seen it
> come on.  I looked at the voltage indicator on the dash on the far right,
> and it looked normal. It said it was at 14V.  Could a cable be loose?  I
> have tried to jumpstart someone within the past couple of months.  Would
> that have done this?
>
> Please help me..  Do I need to get a new battery??  Should I take it into
> Trak Auto or PepBoys and have them check it out??
>
> Thanks for any and all help...
>
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Date: Mon, 17 May 1999 10:23:56 -0500
From: xwing <xwing@execpc.com>
Subject: Team3S: Ground Control Group Purchase!

DSM list is having a Group Purchase on Ground Control
adjustable/lowering spring
suspension kits, such as Barry King and several other List Members have
already and have been raving about!  WE 3S  people CAN join the buy!
Usual price is $400, they are down to $325 now.  If 6 more people
join, price will be $300 each kit.  I am getting this for my '94; if
you are interested, contact ASAP:

Joe Kou    af3976@wayne.edu

Jack Tertadian

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Date: Mon, 17 May 1999 00:14:13 -0700
From: "Bill" <compren@lightspeed.net>
Subject: Re: Team3S: battery warning light

Chances are it's the Parthanon (sp?) looking icon (looks like a Greek
building) it's the coolant light.  Mine's been going on and off for the last
month or so even though the coolant is a nice green and filled to the fill
line.  There's no way this light goes off somehow knowing that the fluid is
2 years old is there?  I've heard that there is a sender unit that often
fails causing this problem...


> If it's over on the right side, near the bottom, and is yellow, then
> it's your coolant ondicator light. fill up the overflow tank to correct
> the problem.



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