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Team3S
Digest Saturday, May 15
1999 Volume 01 : Number
179
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Date:
Fri, 14 May 1999 20:57:24 EDT
From: MitsuVR41@aol.com
Subject: Team3S: oil
return line leak...and question
Okay....there is a silverish line that
connects to the oil pan near the
starter. It has been leaking....so i
replaced the gasket....but it is still
leaking through the gasket. Any
Ideas on how to stop this?? should I try
two gaskets??
Oh.....when the oil leaks...it runs down and gets on my
exhaust....so
that is were the steam has been coming from. The oil was
burning off
the hot exhaust....but I guess at a slow enough rate to make the
steam not
to black. This leak is pretty bad.....I lost like a quarter of a
quart
of oil in like two days of not much driving. I finally got my
pre-cats gutted!!! But I need to solve this problem before I can
really
drive around.
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Date:
Fri, 14 May 1999 20:57:36 -0700
From: wce@bc.sympatico.ca
Subject: Re:
Team3S: oil return line leak...and question
MitsuVR41...(who are you
anyway masked man?)
The new gasket leaked ? Hmmm...doubling up may or may
not solve it... likely not if you
use the old new gasket and another new one.
Better to try doing it again and cleaning
the surfaces real well, then use
some gasket spray with a single new gasket. The tacky
spray (a thin
layer) should seal it well and solve the
problem.
Best
Darc
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Date:
Sat, 15 May 1999 01:12:58 -0500 (CDT)
From: BDLSOO7@webtv.net (chris hill)
Subject:
RE: Team3S: Intake Plenum
there was a post sometime back about someone
building a custom intake
plenium, i think it was brad,but i just wondered if
they had allready
built it. and if so, how well does it work? i also like the
idea of
another throttle body, has anyone tried this mod yet? just
curious.
chris
hill
lubbock
tx
91 vr4
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Date:
Sat, 15 May 1999 11:05:41 +0200
From: "R.G." <robby@swissonline.ch>
Subject: Re:
Team3S: oil return line leak...and question
Good you found the cause for
the steam !
> Okay....there is a silverish line that connects to the
oil pan near the
> starter. It has been leaking....so i replaced the
gasket....but it is still
You are refering to the front turbo return
line, right ? Where was it leaking,
at the turbo or the oil pan ?
A
problem could be that the line is bent a little as this can happen due
to
removing the front turbo. My advise is to remove the bolts at the oil pan
and
check how good it fits. Also remove the line at the turbo and check for
fitting.
Check the surface of both flanges as well as at the turbo and the
oil pan and
finally follow the advice from Darc on mounting the new gaskets
(hope you have
the right ones).
> steam not to black. This
leak is pretty bad.....I lost like a quarter of a
> quart of oil in like
two days of not much driving.
... and you have the cause for the somewhat
low oil-pressure as well.
Hope this helps,
Roger
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Roger Gerl, Switzerland
93'3000GT TwinTurbo
(Animale Rosso)
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Date:
Sat, 15 May 1999 11:15:05 +0200
From: "R.G." <robby@swissonline.ch>
Subject: Re:
Team3S: Gutting out cats
Dal,
> None of the two cars is using a
cat.
So you say that both cars do have gutted pre-cats and no main cat ??
In your
earlier post I though you said that you have still a stock exhaust ?
Please
clarify.
> and the one with more mods AND more boost is
still falling behind with the
> gutted pre cats and downpipe. So far
both cars have pretty safe EGT's.
> That is why in my experiences gutted
pre cats and a downpipe do not help
> 1/4 mile times much with stock
turbos.
I agree (if your exhaust is different), as this proves the dyno
results of three
cars ! I just hoped that the gutted precats would help more
than the rest so the
question is if your friends car is healthy enough to be
compared to yours ?
Would it be possible to exchange the front exhaust parts
(front
pre-cat/dp/testpipe) and do a retest again ?
You say that the
other car has many more mods than yours. Can you please give us
some details
on these mods ?
Thanks,
Roger
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Roger Gerl, Switzerland
93'3000GT TwinTurbo
(Animale Rosso)
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Date:
Sat, 15 May 1999 19:19:38 -0500
From: xwing <xwing@execpc.com>
Subject: Re: Team3S:
oil return line leak
MitsuVR41@aol.com wrote:
>
silver line connects to oil pan near starter leaking. I replaced
gasket but it
> still
> leaking through gasket. Ideas how to
stop? should I try
> two gaskets? leak is pretty bad, I
lost quarter of a quart in two days.
Unbolt it again. Take off
"new" gasket. Get ONLY Permatex "Ultra Blue" gasket
sealant
stuff. Clean off the pan side, the pipe side as well as possible and
make
sure there is no more of the OLD gasket PARTLY still there making a
ledge
that won't seal. Coat the pipe side, the gasket both sides, and
the pan face with
thin coat of Ultra Blue. Attach pipe again with
moderate tight bolts (not SUPERtight,
will
distort pan/flange and sqeeze
out too much UltraBlue.)
This should work WELL. UltraBlue can even
seal if both surfaces have a little oil on
them...
Hope this
helps!
Jack Tertadian
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Date:
Sat, 15 May 1999 11:18:23 EDT
From: TurboDrvn@aol.com
Subject: Team3S: Dealer
experience & transmission questions.
Hi all,
It's great
to be back on a 3Si mailing list! Unfortunately, I am
the one
who has recently experienced a Voided/Nulled warranty on my
transmission
(some of you already are aware of my situation - Thank you for
your
support!). To make a real long story short (Believe it or
not), I was
DENIED a new transmission by Mitsubishi and got "Black
listed" due to my
GReddy aftermarket part. I know! Why didn't I
take the aftermarket part OUT
before I turned my car in? Well, they
already saw my car and approved it
even with my aftermarket GReddy part in
it & scheduled an appointment to get
the job done under warranty!
But, unfortunately the District manager was on
the premises on the day that
I brought the car in for the tranny. They page
me within 45 minutes
and stated, "Your car has been altered by an
after-market part; that voids
and Nulls any warranty you have on your VR4. I
did not know that about
your car when you came to us last week"; Yeah
right!? They
physically SAW the car! This Service manager stated to me that
he even
documented my vin# in Mitsubishi's system that my car was "altered &
modified". Meaning that no other Mitsubishi dealership would honor any
warranty transmission. In other words, he "black balled"
(service manager's
own words) me!
I am currently working on
several options & ideas to pursue the
matter; I have all
documentations needed to make a good case! The thing is
that I had
tranny problems before the mods were put on (thank God, I have
documentations from the Mitsu. dealership that I tried to confirm the
problems but they denied any "faults" in the tranny). I'll try to keep
you
all posted. If my plans work out, it will be advantageous
for all of us on
this list! But in the meantime, I have to look into
alternative plans &
ideas. I have a few questions that I
need to ask you all.
My questions are:
1) Is
there any way to install another type of transmission into a 1st.
generation
VR4? Such as installing a 4th. generation Twin Turbo Supra six
speed trans? I
believe the Supra transmission is also made by
Getrag. What
alterations would I
have to perform to the Supra
trans. (rear wheel drive) to comply with
my AWD set up?
2) Does anyone
have the phone # to Getrag (Germany); or website or
email?
3) I
believe there was someone on the starnet list that was able to take
apart
our transmissions and was working on getting new parts from
Getrag!
Who was that? Was that Jack Tertadian (ooopss, I hope I
spelled his
name right!)? Does
anyone know how to contact him?
4) Has anyone
upgraded their 1st. Generation 5 speed 3Si to a Getrag 3Si
6 speed? If
so, have you experienced any problems? I am aware of the
following: Thanks to Arty!
Transmission:
W6mg1: MB896324
Transfer
case:
MB896326
Rear end
Gears:
MB185450 (3.307 gears, may need some sort
of shim
pack, depending on how to properly set the ring & pinion gears
up)
DriveShaft assembly:
MR111394 You can either buy a new one, or
have yours
lengthened about an inch (measure Before you send it to a
driveshaft
shop)
To make the install "right"
Add these part
#'s
Shifter
Cables:
MR102669
Those of you with the 91-93.4 cars:
Shifter
lever:
911854
Pivot:
911858
Thank you all in advance,
I truly appeciate all the support I
have received from some of you via
private emails. (since the list was down,
I had no access to our 3Si mailing
list - But it's great to finally be back
on!).
Ahmed.
'92 VR4 (right now I'm too depressed about listing
all my mods due to the
fact that it cost me a warrantied tranny to be
DENIED).
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Date:
Sat, 15 May 1999 12:36:31 -0400
From: Ron Thompson <rtetetet@earthlink.net>
Subject:
Re: Team3S: oil return line leak...and question
Are you sure it's leaking
at the gasket contact area or could it be a
crack at the flange? If the
return line tubing has been vibrating or
bumped if could have created a fine
crack that allows the pressurized
oil to leak and look like a bad gasket
seal. Clean it and see if you
can see if the actual leak is where the tubing
meets the flange.
Ron
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Date:
Sun, 16 May 1999 01:07:38 -0400
From: Joshua <joshua@princelaw.com>
Subject:
Team3S: Best clutch??
I am curious what you guys feel is the best clutch
for a car with a borla
exhaust, hks intake and hks boost controller. I
know the stock isn't the
best but what would be good for the car with those
mods? Also what is the
usual price for putting a new clutch in, I know
it isn't easy. Thanks
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