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Date:
Sun, 11 Apr 1999 17:25:22 -0800
From: "Terry Swift" <tlswift@hotbot.com>
Subject: Re:
Team3S: Re: Extended Warranty Company
Here's the Fax # ((714)-934-7604)
for Mitsubishi Motor Sales of America - Mr. Pierre Gagnon, CEO. Let him
know the state of affairs with the 3k - the more we let these guys know what's
up, then we're closer to getting an answer from them about the car.
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On Sun, 11 Apr 1999 14:27:49 Errin Humphrey
wrote:
>Jason Timmons wrote (on Starnet List):
>
>>Anyway,
here I am without an extended warranty on a 4 year old
>>vehicle.
[snip]
>>Does anyone know a reputable extended warranty company
that
>>will cover our cars?
>
>ATTN:
EVERYONE
>
>I too am looking for an aftermarket warranty! If
any of you
>know anything about where I can purchase one for a
decent
>price PLEASE let me know. My local dealership wants
almost
>$3000, and this is quite out of my budget. Allstate does
not
>sell warranties in Washington State, and Auto Advantage
stopped
>selling warranties for the VR4. I have been told that many
other
>companies also have stopped covering the VR4 (I wonder
why...)
>even though these companies still sell warranties for
Porsches
>and Ferraris. If I cannot find an aftermarket warranty I
will
>certainly sell my car in the near future.
>
>Thanks to
anyone who can help.
>
>--Errin Humphrey
>Seattle,
WA
>94 VR4
>
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Date:
Sun, 11 Apr 1999 19:51:51 -0600
From: "PHorschel" <phorschel@utah-inter.net>
Subject:
RE: Team3S: Cruise and throttle position sensor
Neil,
> Because
it is acting like another car I used to have (it had a
> bad TPS),
I
> decided to check the throttle position sensor. I checked it, and
it does
> not always come back to the same resistance, making me think its
bad. Has
> anyone measured a bad one? I called and a TPS is
about $150, so I want to
> be sure before I replace it.
I had to
replace my TPS a few months ago. I was getting very bad fuel cut
at any
RPM above 2000. It was weird because if you let the car sit
overnight
and drove it around the next day it would be fine until you turned
it off and
restarted it. I went to the dealership and had the problem
checked out
because my engine light was on and I didn't know how to read the
codes.
I have a bad TPS sitting in my garage if you would like to know the
readings
off of it.
Paul Horschel
93VR4
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Date:
Sun, 11 Apr 1999 20:01:13 -0600
From: "PHorschel" <phorschel@utah-inter.net>
Subject:
Team3S: Blitz rims for sale
Hello all,
I recently came across an
ad while looking around on the internet. It
sounds like an excellent
deal and since I am not in the market for 17's I
thought I would pass it on
to one of you guys.
4 17X8 Blitz Type 03 polished $500 plus
shipping
914-621-0973(two piece wheel with split 5 spoke design-I
think)
It says they will fits all 3000GT's including VR4's offset for the
calipers.
It also said they fit 300Z's and the Eclipse. I think the ad
said it was in
New York. I could find the ad again if you needed
it. Hope this works out
for one of you.
Paul
Horschel
93VR4
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Date:
Sun, 11 Apr 1999 21:10:58 -0500
From: "Paul T. Golley" <ptgolley@ro.com>
Subject: Re: Team3S: In
Bad Need of Help on Tires!
I put a set of Pirelli P7000s on a few years
ago. They were about $800 and
have a good wear rating. I chose
them over Gatorbacks as I heard they were
very noisy. These were great
the first 10,000 miles, but have become louder
in the past few months.
Tread still looks good but I seem to get some
vibration if the car sits for
more than a day - almost like the old nylon
tires. Had em balanced but
not much help. Any other experience on
these
tires?
Pete
Thanks for the response!
Regards,
ptg
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Date:
Sun, 11 Apr 1999 21:29:56 -0500
From: "Paul T. Golley" <ptgolley@ro.com>
Subject: Re: Team3S: In
Bad Need of Help on Tires!
>Hey, Paul, and all,
>I've got the
Nitto 450 Extreme Performance (V-rated) and they're great!
>They seem to
wear like iron, they're quiet, and they corner like I'm in a
>slot
car... Big 'thumbs-up' on these tires-- I'll buy them again
next
time
>around...>
Bob-
Thanks for the input.
Yes, I remember the past survey you
mentioned. The only discouraging
thing I remember about it
was that A028 Yokos were said to last 40K miles,
while mine have
been "gone" since about 23K. But, I respect your
comments on the
Nittos. I just hope you corner as hard as I do. I
don't race
(usually), and don't brake severely, and don't try anything in
the
rain, so cornering and wear are primary issues with me.
Regards,
ptg
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Date:
Sun, 11 Apr 1999 22:31:33 -0400
From: William Lynn Larsen <wlarsen@ibm.net>
Subject: Team3S: '92
heads on a '93 ??
I have an opportunity to buy a set of heads from a
'92. Now if I buy
these and have them blueprinted and polished, will I
be able to use them
on my '93 (build date 6/92 )?? Both are DOHC NA
engines.
I understand what extrusion is and I have honed a number of
cylinder
walls during an overhaul, but can someone explain extrude honing to
me
please?
TIA,
Lynn
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Date:
Sun, 11 Apr 1999 21:31:40 -0400
From: Brian Danley <bcdmad@concentric.net>
Subject:
RE: Team3S: Please recommend ... PowerSlot
I haven't had my Powerslot's
warp yet. I had to have my stock ones turned
about as much as I
changed the oil! They work great and have had no
problems.
-
-----Original Message-----
From: Paul T. Golley [SMTP:ptgolley@ro.com]
Sent: Saturday,
April 10, 1999 9:02 PM
To: stealth-3000gt@list.sirius.com
Subject:
Re: Team3S: Please recommend ... PowerSlot
>> Powerslot rotors and
my K&K FIPK is on the way.
>
>Doran, good luck with the rotors !
Let us know how long it takes until
they
get
>warped. What pads are
you using with them ?
Doran, Roger, et-al-
Please post your
experience with brake rotors (front, I guess).
I have 26K miles on my
'95 VR-4 rotors, and they have been
heavily warped for 24K of these
miles. Does anyone know of a
REAL cure for this problem at ANY
price? Surely, with 18 inch
wheels, a 14 inch set of rotors could be
made which would not
warp!? Thanks for any info!
Regards,
ptg
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Date:
Sun, 11 Apr 1999 22:00:37 -0500
From: "Paul T. Golley" <ptgolley@ro.com>
Subject: Re: Team3S: In
Bad Need of Help on Tires!
>Take a look at Nitto tires like the 555
extreme or whatever it's called.
>Pretty good wear ratings. Above 300 if
i'm not mistaken.
Omar-
Thanks for the input!
Regards,
ptg
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Date:
Sun, 11 Apr 1999 20:02:31 -0700
From: "Barry E. King" <beking@home.com>
Subject: RE: Team3S:
'92 heads on a '93 ??
The extrude hone process forces a thick abrasive
substance through the piece
being honed. It is usually but not
necessarily used on irregular shapes
where it may be a difficult reach with
conventional tools. It is not a
selective process meaning it smoothes
out pretty much anything in the path
of the substrate.
It works great
on things like plenum runners and already shaped passges
which have a rough
surface. Likely not appropriate for intake or exhaust
ports or runners
which really need to be hand shaped for proper flow. I
suppose it could
be applied in those areas after hand shaping had been done
but it would be
cheaper to just have them hand polished.
Barry
>
-----Original Message-----
>
> I have an opportunity to buy a set of
heads from a '92. Now if I buy
> these and have them blueprinted and
polished, will I be able to use them
> on my '93 (build date 6/92
)?? Both are DOHC NA engines.
>
> I understand what extrusion
is and I have honed a number of cylinder
> walls during an overhaul, but
can someone explain extrude honing to me
> please?
>
>
>
TIA,
> Lynn
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Date:
Sun, 11 Apr 1999 22:25:54 -0500
From: "Paul T. Golley" <ptgolley@ro.com>
Subject: Re: Team3S:
Concequences of Cat Removal
>> I know how to reset the ECU.
But my question is what does
>> cat removal cause the ECU to do to
engine operation? Does
>> it run richer, leaner, or what?
Does it do different things
>> depending on whether you have OBDI
versus OBDII?
>I can only speak to the first generation ECU's...
perhaps someone else can
comment on
>the latter edition. I have
found main cat removal (I still have precats)
gives an
>occasional
small backfire when letting off the gas under
aggressive
acceleration. This
>is the unburnt gas/vapour
which is normally handled by the main cat and it
is is not a
>problem,
as no problem in operation has ever been detected. I understand
that this
even
>occurs with cat back installations, so perhaps a slightly rich
situation
occurs with our
>cars under normal conditions. Other than
this there is no detectable glitch
with the car
>or ECU,
and the ECU adjustments (if any) for the cat's absence seem to
have
it
>running in top form. . I have been running from Day One this way with
no
detectable
>problem.
Darc-
Thanks! This is exactly the
info I wanted.
Regards, ptg
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Date:
Mon, 12 Apr 1999 00:54:47 -0400
From: Jason Barnhart <phnxgld@erols.com>
Subject: Re:
Team3S: Re: Records for stock turbos? (was weight stripping)
> If you
are talking NOS, then you aren't really getting it
> into the 11's because
of the stock turbos. NOS should get
> you easily into the 11's, but
that's sorta cheating... If
> the point is to make the stock turbos
go elevens, then do
> it with the turbos, and not some other horsepower
trick.
> -Matt
I'm not sure he's trying to get into the
11s because of stock turbos,
more like WITH stock turbos. I despise
NOS, mainly because you can't
drive the car 24/7 with NOS, so it's kinda like
cheating to me if it's
used in a street race, same goes for slicks.
However, Andrew should be
encouraged to do whatever he wants to do with his
car. It matters not
what makes us happy, it's his car and I fully
encourage him to make
himself happy. The point is whether it can be
done with stock turbos,
that makes room for ANY mod other than turbos.
I'd rather see 11s done
on stock turbos without NOS, but it's his car
and we should support him
in his decisions.
good luck
Andrew,
Jason
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Date:
Mon, 12 Apr 1999 12:52:14 +0200
From: Roger Gerl <robby@swissonline.ch>
Subject: Re:
Team3S: Disabling Fuel Pump
> Can anyone confirm this on the 3S for
sure? I t sure would be easier than the
> standard "open the fuel pump
access in the trunk and disconnect it there"
> described earlier?
I
already posted a description to this the last days. But I haven't tried it
out
myself yet. I do not have the post on my laptop and also I don't know if
it came
though. I can check this
evening.
Later,
Roger
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Date:
Mon, 12 Apr 1999 13:00:43 +0200
From: Roger Gerl <robby@swissonline.ch>
Subject: Re:
Team3S: Cruise and throttle position sensor
Due to the amount of oil in
the TB the TPS started to begin sending bogus
information. But my mechanic
told me that it is cleanable and they did during
the rebuild. Sure, I have to
clean it again as the ICs where still full of oil
:( Maybe this can also be
another the cause for the little Gremlins I currently
have in my
car.
Regards,
Roger
93'3000GT TT
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Date:
Mon, 12 Apr 1999 08:03:54 -0400
From: Michael Booker <mrbook@gate.net>
Subject: Re: Team3S:
'92 heads on a '93 ??
As far as porting/polishing goes, I'd reccomend JG
engine dynamics. They
are the common thread of all the fast Hondas and
Eclipse/Talon/Lasers.
If you check out Nexus motorsport's home page, they
have a listing for
the headwork as well as DPR valves and
springs.
Matt
#311
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Date:
Mon, 12 Apr 1999 14:19:57 +0200
From: Roger Gerl <robby@swissonline.ch>
Subject: Re:
Team3S: '92 heads on a '93 ??
> It works great on things like plenum
runners and already shaped passges
> which have a rough surface.
Likely not appropriate for intake or exhaust
> ports or runners which
really need to be hand shaped for proper flow. I
> suppose it could
be applied in those areas after hand shaping had been done
> but it would
be cheaper to just have them hand polished.
I do not fully agree with the
term polished. During my physics year I learned
that the flow speed at the
wall (like runners or a ships body) is not the same
than in a distance of it.
This is why the skin of a dolphin or a shark (ouch)
doesn't feel that sleek
than expected when touching them. The same belongs to
the intake and exhaust
parts that are involved in the flowing path. After a good
extrude honing job
or hand grinding, the parts do not look like polished but
would work very
good. Polishing them to mirror shine looks soooo sexy but
acually can hurt
the flow characteristic. Yes, this sounds strange but is true.
We had a buddy
on the Camaro list that put some great heads onto his LT1 and
gained a lot.
As they didn't looked like a $600 job he really polished them and
put them
back to the car. Unfortunately he lost some torque then and finally
went back
to the shop to slow test them and they showed smaller flow-figures
than
before the polishing.
I think it's very important to make the valve seats
as good and the surface of
them as smooth as possible. Also our intake
runners and intake plenum would gain
of a better surface as the stock one is
really rough and can produce a small
reduction in air-velocity. Also the
heads will gain of this work. But work on
them until they feel smooth for the
fingers and do not try to polish them. This
will not look that good,
particulary like a 3rd grade grinder job, but they work
as
supposed.
Regards,
Roger
93'3000GT TT (polishing the headers ... on
the outside)
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Date:
Mon, 12 Apr 1999 07:14:27 -0600
From: "Brent & Tara Maksymiw" <brent.tara@sk.sympatico.ca>
Subject:
Team3S: To those who have done a rear diff. oil change on a '93 TT
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(filler) and =
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Date:
Mon, 12 Apr 1999 09:46:23 -0400
From: William Lynn Larsen <wlarsen@ibm.net>
Subject: Re: Team3S:
'92 heads on a '93 ??
Roger,
I understand and concur with smooth
is better than polish for flow
rates. It is easier to just use the term
polished. Besides better flow,
you also get better mixing which is important
to carburetor or instream
injection by providing a uniform air/fuel charge to
the cylinders. I
seem to remember reading that a glass beaded type surface in
the intake
path was preferable to polished.
I know this is a little
bit of mixing subjects, but are the '92 heads
interchangeable with the '93
heads??
Regards,
Lynn
Roger Gerl wrote:
>
> they
[smooth] showed smaller flow-figures than before the polishing.
>
>
I think it's very important to make the valve seats as good and the surface
of
> them as smooth as possible. Also our intake runners and intake plenum
would gain
> of a better surface as the stock one is really rough and can
produce a small
> reduction in air-velocity. Also the heads will gain of
this work. But work on
> them until they feel smooth for the fingers and
do not try to polish them. This
> will not look that good, particulary
like a 3rd grade grinder job, but they work
> as supposed.
>
> Regards,
> Roger
> 93'3000GT TT (polishing the headers ...
on the outside)
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Date:
Mon, 12 Apr 1999 07:02:13 -0700
From: "Barry E. King" <beking@home.com>
Subject: RE: Team3S:
'92 heads on a '93 ??
Roger,
I didn't mention mirror polishing,
which I agree (and have even talked about
here before) is likely a waste of
time. However, the process of dressing a
rough cut surface with finer
abrasives is called polishing, at least in the
circles I am in. The
degree of polish is at issue.
Extrude honing does not leave a mirror
finish but is MUCH smoother than a
"ground" finish. Think of a stone
ground surface versus an finer abrasive
paper finish (a "polish"). The
finer grit paper finish is smoother but not
necessarily a mirror
surface.
Surface tension on the wall of a port runner for instance
accounts for less
than 1% of the total fluid flow according to the person who
did my heads.
He mentions that surface texture is not as important as it once
was. Modern
injector designs now dump fuel directly into the intake
port at the valve.
With a carbureted engine it was more important to maintain
a homogenous
air/fuel mixture and a rougher surface was desirable. In
his experience the
mirror polish for an injected engine isn't worse, but
simply isn't worth the
added expense from the numerous hours required to get
that mirror-like
finish.
In any case, I did not intend to imply nor
promote mirror polishing and
especially not that extrude honing leaves a
mirror finish. I haven't ever
seen an extrude honed piece that came out
looking mirror polished so if it
is possible it is news to
me.
Regards,
Barry
> -----Original
Message-----
>
> > It works great on things like plenum runners
and already shaped passges
> > which have a rough surface. Likely
not appropriate for intake
> or exhaust
> > ports or runners
which really need to be hand shaped for proper flow. I
> >
suppose it could be applied in those areas after hand shaping
> had been
done
> > but it would be cheaper to just have them hand
polished.
>
> I do not fully agree with the term polished. During my
physics
> year I learned
> that the flow speed at the wall (like
runners or a ships body) is
> not the same
> than in a distance of
it. This is why the skin of a dolphin or a
> shark (ouch)
> doesn't
feel that sleek than expected when touching them. The
> same belongs
to
> the intake and exhaust parts that are involved in the flowing
>
path. After a good
> extrude honing job or hand grinding, the parts do not
look like
> polished but
> would work very good. Polishing them to
mirror shine looks soooo sexy but
> acually can hurt the flow
characteristic. Yes, this sounds
> strange but is
true.
<snip>
>
> Regards,
> Roger
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Date:
Mon, 12 Apr 1999 17:00:02 +0200
From: Roger Gerl <robby@swissonline.ch>
Subject: Re:
Team3S: '92 heads on a '93 ??
> I didn't mention mirror polishing,
which I agree (and have even talked about
> here before) is likely a waste
of time. However, the process of dressing a
> rough cut surface with
finer abrasives is called polishing, at least in the
> circles I am
in.
Ahh, sorry for my bad understanding. My intention was polishing =
mirror shine
on my newly painted fenders, hehe. I got it !
>
Extrude honing does not leave a mirror finish but is MUCH smoother than
a
> "ground" finish. Think of a stone ground surface versus an finer
abrasive
> paper finish (a "polish"). The finer grit paper finish is
smoother but not
> necessarily a mirror surface.
Yes, absolutely my
words (but I have to use a dictionary sometimes)
> In any case, I did
not intend to imply nor promote mirror polishing and
> especially not that
extrude honing leaves a mirror finish. I haven't ever
> seen an
extrude honed piece that came out looking mirror polished so if it
> is
possible it is news to me.
I saw V8 heads that where CNC machined and
polished afterwards. I became almost
blind due to the lights mirring in them.
Barry, it was me that understud the
word polishing wrong ! Let's call this
mirror-finish and polishing "making an
appropriate smooth
surface".
Later,
Roger
93'3000GT TT
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Date:
Mon, 12 Apr 1999 16:59:58 +0200
From: Roger Gerl <robby@swissonline.ch>
Subject: Re:
Team3S: '92 heads on a '93 ??
> I know this is a little bit of mixing
subjects, but are the '92 heads
> interchangeable with the '93
heads??
At least the european ones are as I can't see any difference even
between any
year.
Barry, what do yX-Mozilla-Status:
0009Roger
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Date:
Mon, 12 Apr 1999 17:00:02 +0200
From: Roger Gerl <robby@swissonline.ch>
Subject: Re:
Team3S: '92 heads on a '93 ??
> I didn't mention mirror polishing,
which I agree (and have even talked about
> here before) is likely a waste
of time. However, the process of dressing a
> rough cut surface with
finer abrasives is called polishing, at least in the
> circles I am
in.
Ahh, sorry for my bad understanding. My intention was polishing =
mirror shine
on my newly painted fenders, hehe. I got it !
>
Extrude honing does not leave a mirror finish but is MUCH smoother than
a
> "ground" finish. Think of a stone ground surface versus an finer
abrasive
> paper finish (a "polish"). The finer grit paper finish is
smoother but not
> necessarily a mirror surface.
Yes, absolutely my
words (but I have to use a dictionary sometimes)
> In any case, I did
not intend to imply nor promote mirror polishing and
> especially not that
extrude honing leaves a mirror finish. I haven't ever
> seen an
extrude honed piece that came out looking mirror polished so if it
> is
possible it is news to me.
I saw V8 heads that where CNC machined and
polished afterwards. I became almost
blind due to the lights mirring in them.
Barry, it was me that understud the
word polishing wrong ! Let's call this
mirror-finish and polishing "making an
appropriate smooth
surface".
Later,
Roger
93'3000GT TT
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Date:
Mon, 12 Apr 1999 11:29:26 -0400
From: Gavin Wallis <WallisG@mwaa.com>
Subject: Re: Team3S:
octane boost in NA's -Reply
Can you recommend a good
one?
Thanks,
Gavin
>>> "R.G." <robby@swissonline.ch> 04/10/99 04:42am
>>>
You can use a good fuel system cleaner every 30k or
so.
This will remove carbon deposits on the valves while cleaning
the
injectors.
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Switzerland
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Date:
Mon, 12 Apr 1999 10:43:56 -0500
From: "Matt Jannusch" <mattj@fallon.com>
Subject: RE: Team3S:
Re: Records for stock turbos? (was weight stripping)
> I'm
not sure he's trying to get into the 11s because of stock turbos,
> more
like WITH stock turbos. I despise NOS, mainly because you can't
>
drive the car 24/7 with NOS, so it's kinda like cheating to me if it's
>
used in a street race, same goes for slicks. However, Andrew should
be
> encouraged to do whatever he wants to do with his car. It
matters not
> what makes us happy, it's his car and I fully encourage him
to make
> himself happy. The point is whether it can be done with
stock turbos,
> that makes room for ANY mod other than turbos. I'd
rather see 11s done
> on stock turbos without NOS, but it's his car
and we should support him
> in his decisions.
Certainly it is his
car and he can do with it as he pleases... I would only
say that
caution is warranted as it is really tempting to keep putting on
bigger
nozzles until the engine grenades... :-) I think the point I
was
trying to make was that it would be way easy to get in the 11's with NOS
and
not really much of a challenge.
- -Matt
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Date:
Mon, 12 Apr 1999 08:54:30 -0700
From: "james berry" <fastmax@home.com>
Subject: Re: Team3S:
Re: Extended Warranty Company
>
>I too am looking for an
aftermarket warranty! If any of you
>know anything about where I can
purchase one for a decent
>price PLEASE let me know. My local
dealership wants almost
>$3000, and this is quite out of my
budget
No direct help, but, I bought a 93 Stealth TT in Dec. 98 and
purchased, through the used car dealer, a 4/48 bumper to
bumper for
$2000. The only phone number I have is through
an outfit called Warranty
Administration Corp. in Denver.
Their # is 1-800-455-4065. They may be able
to tell you how
to contact the company that provides the
insurance.
good luck Jim Berry
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Date:
Mon, 12 Apr 1999 10:04:33 -0600
From: Andrew Brilliant <andrewb@infowest.com>
Subject:
Team3S: Ahh some good news... (was Records for stock turbos)
Saturday,
the 10th
26 degrees F
Wind: SW 8 mph
Runs were done South to north,
following the marker lines left from the land speed
record attempts.
BTW
we once again stuck the (inacurate albeit), speedo at 176 mph. I love the
salt
flats. However in 2 minutes we consumed roughly 1/4 tank of gas at
that speed.
Went out to Bonnevile this weekend, pulling the VR-4 on the
new trailer, and the bikes
in Joey's Full Size Chevy. All these times
were measured on GTECH PRO, which was
borrowed from a friend's prelude.
Here is the setup.
Much care was taken to ensure the proper installation
of the GTECH, but it's accuracy
could be well debated I'm sure. Here
are the circumstances....
The salt is not quite as hard as it used to be
and there has been some recent snow so it
was slightly damp, allowing for
abosolutely incredible traction. It hooked up like you
couldn't
understand.
Mods:
Bleeder Valve, halfway open (about 15PSI)
No
filter, no bottom half of airbox.
Stock exhaust, test pipe.
Full interior
removal, one seat at 12lbs. No dash, rear spoiler removed, tape
placed
over the holes.
Front active aero skirt removal.
Removed:
Headlight motors, and lamps. Passenger side completely removed. $8
Wal-mart
dryer hose to air intake mod... yes I know this was a sorry
excuse.
IC's were sprayed with water, which iced over in minutes, and we
found was actually
hindering our times. Any Ideas why this might
be?
Time 13.0 @ 106
We wasted alot of time dinking around on the
bikes
98' GSX-R 750 10.9 @128
TS 168 mph (@redline)
326
miles
396lbs
Bone stock
97'
YZF-100
3900 miles
Pipe/Headers
Jet kit
Drilled out carbs
K&N
Filter Kit
AFAM kit,
Rear sprocket
change - 2 teeth
Yes it wheelies in 3rd now.
10.6
@132
TS 156 mph (@ redline)
The times ont the VR-4 continued to get
better with each run, however, some police
officers showed up to escort us
off the Salt Flats. The thing that is nice is that we
acheived thirteen
oh for a ZERO budget wooohoo, well I know it isn't that fast, but I'm
pretty
darn proud. WE are going to try to get to a real track, and actually
measure our
times. Only 2 more seconds to go. I think we can get
anouther 1/2 second out of this
setup. Next on the chopping block...
A/C, Cruise Control. Next Upgrade: Air Filter.
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Date:
Mon, 12 Apr 1999 11:34:03 -0500
From: "Matt Jannusch" <mattj@fallon.com>
Subject: RE: Team3S:
Ahh some good news...
> Much care was taken to ensure the proper
installation of the
> GTECH, but it's accuracy could be well debated I'm
sure. Here
> are the circumstances....
I've noticed that the
GTech is a little bit optimistic, however not overly
so. About .1-.2
optimistic in the 1/4 and 2-4 MPH as well. I think that
comes at least
partially from our AWD cars tending to pull the rear down and
the front up
which adds a little more g-force to the accelerometer in the
GTech due to the
effects of gravity since the device is no longer perfectly
level.
It
gets worse with motorcycles if you bring the front end up at all but if
you
are careful you can get decent readings, although at the track you
aren't
very likely to be that cautious -- resulting in better times.
:-)
Overall it is a pretty good tool considering the price and ease of
use in
multiple vehicles. I'd buy another one...
-
-Matt
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Date:
Mon, 12 Apr 1999 10:42:03 -0600
From: Andrew Brilliant <andrewb@infowest.com>
Subject: Re:
Team3S: Ahh some good news...
I was impressed it was a fun toy, the times
were really off when we would wheelie. Joey
(who has perfected his 1/4
mile wheelie) got it to read a time of 4.66 , while at
pulling a
standup. What would that be 418mph??? yeah that was pretty acurate
reading
hehe. We had alot of fun even if the times aren't "real".
Ive if they are off by .2 or
.5 They are still times I am proud
of
Matt Jannusch wrote:
> I've noticed that the GTech is a
little bit optimistic, however not overly
> so. About .1-.2
optimistic in the 1/4 and 2-4 MPH as well. I think that
> comes at
least partially from our AWD cars tending to pull the rear down and
-
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Date:
Mon, 12 Apr 1999 09:54:44 -0700
From: "james berry" <fastmax@home.com>
Subject: Re: Team3S:
Ahh some good news... (was Records for stock turbos)
>Runs were done
South to north, following the marker lines left from the
land
speed
>record attempts.
>BTW we once again stuck the (inacurate
albeit), speedo at 176 mph. I love
the salt
>flats. However
in 2 minutes we consumed roughly 1/4 tank of gas at
that
speed.
>
>Went out to Bonnevile this weekend, pulling the
VR-4 on the new trailer,
>IC's were sprayed with water, which iced over in
minutes, and we found was
actually
>hindering our times. Any Ideas why
this might be?
>
Sounds like fun to me :-)
my last speed endeavor ended in a ticket :-(
He only got me for 15 over
actual speed was 95. Aborted speed run earlier
was 140. A loud whining noise
coming from the passenger seat forced me
to reconsider my choice of speed.
Next time I'll try it alone.
As to IC problems --- if they were indeed icing
up then the air flow through
them would be restricted thus reducing the
cooling affect.
Jim
Berry
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-----
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.034
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110
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Date:
Mon, 12 Apr 1999 13:11:49 -0500 (EST)
From: Dennis Moore <stealth@kiva.net>
Subject: Re: Team3S:
Ahh some good news... (was Records for stock turbos)
So what's the deal
with the Salt Flats. Is it private property? National
Park-type
place where you need a permit to run? Other? Why did the
cops
"escort" you off?
Dennis Moore
stealth@kiva.net
Today's mighty oak is
just yesterday's nut that held it's ground.
On Mon, 12 Apr 1999, Andrew
Brilliant wrote:
[snip]
> The times ont the VR-4 continued to get
better with each run, however,
> some police officers showed up to escort
us off the Salt Flats. The
> thing that is nice is that
we
[snip]
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Date:
Mon, 12 Apr 1999 12:08:06 -0700
From: Ken Middaugh <middaugh@omega.gat.com>
Subject:
Team3S: SRS light
Recently, the battery on my '91 VR4 died. Since
then, the damned SRS
light has remained on. The
'turn-the-ignition-on-ten-times' procedure
has not worked the numerous times
I've tried it. Is there a trick with
this procedure? I tried it
by turning my turbo timer off during the
procedure.
Do I really have
to pay the dealer $50 to turn this light off? The
dealer says he HAS to
hook it up to his diagnostic computer, and can
only reset it AFTER system
diagnostics have been performed. Seems silly
to me, is this true?
Is there another procedure I can do?
Thanks,
Ken
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Date:
Mon, 12 Apr 1999 15:11:51 -0400
From: Gavin Wallis <WallisG@mwaa.com>
Subject: Re: Team3S:
Ahh some good news... (was Records for stock turbos) -Reply
It's a
National park. But they only allow racing a few times a year for only
a month
or so. Possibly he was on there out of season...
AWESOME place to take
your car. Of course as long as you don't mind
getting a little salt kicked up
on the paint...
Gavin
'94 Black VR-4
>>> Dennis Moore
<stealth@kiva.net> 04/12/99 02:11pm
>>>
So what's the deal with the Salt Flats. Is it private
property? National
Park-type place where you need a permit to
run? Other? Why did the
cops
"escort" you off?
Dennis
Moore
stealth@kiva.net
Today's
mighty oak is just yesterday's nut that held it's ground.
On Mon, 12 Apr
1999, Andrew Brilliant wrote:
[snip]
> The times ont the VR-4 continued
to get better with each run, however,
> some police officers showed up to
escort us off the Salt Flats. The
> thing that is nice is that
we
[snip]
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Date:
Mon, 12 Apr 1999 21:12:10 +0200
From: Mike Chapleski <mike.chapleski@ibm.net>
Subject:
Re: Team3S: Re: Extended Warranty Company
Errin,
If
your car is still under warrantee, you should consider an extended warrantee
from
Mitsubishi. I purchased an extended warrantee for my Stealth three
days before the
original one expired from Chrysler Service Contracts.
Normal cost for the warrantee was
$1800, but I got it for $1600, because they
misquoted the price to me. This $1600 has
purchased be a $4500
transmission so far, and probably another one before the warrantee
is
up. I personally like the Manufacturer warrantee, because if the service
manager
thinks it is broken, their is no second guessing by the warrantee
company. This
warrantee was for 7 years/70k miles, with $100
deductible. If your car is out of
warrantee, you are going to have a
lot of problems finding someone to cover it.
Mike C.
0018
'95
Stealth RT TT
Errin Humphrey wrote:
> Jason Timmons wrote (on
Starnet List):
>
> >Anyway, here I am without an extended
warranty on a 4 year old
> >vehicle. [snip]
> >Does anyone
know a reputable extended warranty company that
> >will cover our
cars?
>
> ATTN: EVERYONE
>
> I too am looking for an
aftermarket warranty! If any of you
> know anything about where I
can purchase one for a decent
> price PLEASE let me know. My local
dealership wants almost
> $3000, and this is quite out of my budget.
Allstate does not
> sell warranties in Washington State, and Auto
Advantage stopped
> selling warranties for the VR4. I have been told
that many other
> companies also have stopped covering the VR4 (I wonder
why...)
> even though these companies still sell warranties for
Porsches
> and Ferraris. If I cannot find an aftermarket warranty I
will
> certainly sell my car in the near future.
>
> Thanks to
anyone who can help.
>
> --Errin Humphrey
> Seattle,
WA
> 94 VR4
>
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Date:
Mon, 12 Apr 1999 20:08:38 +0200
From: Matthews <matthews@wiesbaden.netsurf.de>
Subject:
Team3S: Re: ellusive high speed problems
james berry wrote:
>
> was 140. A loud whining noise coming from the passenger seat forced
me
> to reconsider my choice of speed. Next time I'll try it
alone.
Funny, I have this EXACT problem on my car as well! When
driving on the
Autobahn, I begin hearing it at 130 or so, and it gets
exponentially
louder and more annoying as speed increases. Sometimes I
can actually
FEEL the effects. I've also noticed that when a Porche
911, 12 cylinder
BMW/Mercedes/Ferrari/Lambo or other fast car pulls up next
to me and
starts accelerating hard, the problem seems to anticipate my
reaction
and begins EVEN BEFORE I hit the gas! Hmmm...
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Date:
Mon, 12 Apr 1999 20:14:04 +0200
From: Matthews <matthews@wiesbaden.netsurf.de>
Subject:
Re: Team3S: Ahh some good news...
Matt Jannusch wrote:
>
>
I've noticed that the GTech is a little bit optimistic, however not
overly
> so. About .1-.2 optimistic in the 1/4 and 2-4 MPH as
well. I think that
> comes at least partially from our AWD cars
tending to pull the rear down and
> the front up which adds a little more
g-force to the accelerometer in the
> GTech due to the effects of gravity
since the device is no longer perfectly
> level.
I've spoken to
several folks who have validated its values at the track,
and they all found
it to be pretty much dead-on accurate. Of course the
1/4 mile speed
will be higher than that measured at the track since it
is a terminal
velocity at the end of the 1/4 mile vs the trap speed
measured at the track,
which is more of an average speed over the last
part of the run. The
G-Tech is an excellent tool and is very
consistent, making it very easy to
MEASURE the effects of
modifications. No excuse for such useless
comments as "I did this mod
and it made the car come alive!" Anyway,
highly recommended!!
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Date:
Mon, 12 Apr 1999 13:29:04 -0600
From: Andrew Brilliant <andrewb@infowest.com>
Subject:
Team3S: Bonneville Salt Flats (was Ahh some good news...) -Reply
>
It's a National park. But they only allow racing a few times a year for
only
> a month or so. Possibly he was on there out of season...
-
-snip-
Apparently it's an EPA protection thing. The roads were open and
there were no signs,
so they just told us to go. He said they always
arrest kids out there for parties.
As for the salt we
washed it off at the nearest car wash. We got less salt than
you
probably acumulate in one winter here. We were out there for 5
hours before they came
so we got some good racing in. Maybe we should
try to get the list together and get
some time this summer. I think we
have to get special permission from the EPA and thats
all. I don't know
what animals they are worried about killing, there wasn't even a
plant in
site for 30 miles in any direction.
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Date:
Mon, 12 Apr 1999 17:08:58 -0400
From: Gavin Wallis <wallisg@mwaa.com>
Subject: Team3S: Re:
ellusive high speed problems -Reply & Solution
I had my local Mitsu
Mechanic look into this...he told me i was pretty much
SOL & up the creek
without paddles. However being a perfectionist and
not tolerating even the
slightest problem with my baby, (vr-4), i took it to a
good friend of mine in
the animal control business.
Now i just hit a small switch mounted
covertly under the steering wheel
column, and a high voltage, but low
amperage, electrical pulse surges
through the passenger seat which is lined
on the inside with metal tape.
Instantly the noise subsides and the throttle
returns to life.
If anyone is interested i can ask the guy if he wants
to fabricate a kit or
something...i would guess $300-$500 US. E-mail me
privately.
Gavin
'94 Black VR-4 w/ BitchBlocker(tm) 2000 & Erebuni
front
>>> Matthews <matthews@wiesbaden.netsurf.de>
04/12/99 02:08pm
Funny, I have this EXACT problem on my car as well!
When driving on
the Autobahn, I begin hearing it at 130 or so, and it gets
exponentially
louder and more annoying as speed increases. Sometimes I
can actually
FEEL the effects. I've also noticed that when a Porche
911, 12 cylinder
BMW/Mercedes/Ferrari/Lambo or other fast car pulls up next
to me and
starts accelerating hard, the problem seems to anticipate my
reaction
and begins EVEN BEFORE I hit the gas! Hmmm...
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Date:
Mon, 12 Apr 1999 18:32:58 -0400
From: William Lynn Larsen <wlarsen@ibm.net>
Subject: Re: Team3S:
Bonneville Salt Flats (was Ahh some good news...) -Reply
When they did
the special on the US and British cars trying to break the
sound barrier,
they mentioned that the salt on the flats was getting
extremely thin. I don't
recall why this is happening although they did
say. This was the reason that
the sound barrier runs were made on the
dry lake bed and not the salt
flats.
Regards,
Lynn
>
> > It's a National
park. But they only allow racing a few times a year for only
> > a
month or so. Possibly he was on there out of season...
> -snip-
>
Apparently it's an EPA protection thing. The roads were open and there
were no > signs, so they just told us to go. -snip- I think we have to get
special permission > from the EPA and thats all.
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Date:
Mon, 12 Apr 1999 15:58:43 -0700
From: Andrew Biddle <andyb@chainsaw.com>
Subject: Team3S:
Odd noise at 2500-3500 RPMs
Hello Everyone,
Not sure if this is a
300GT VR-4 newbie question of not, but here goes:
I've just recently
purchased a 1992 VR-4 and absolutely love it. The
only thing I've
noticed as a problem is that, at roughly 2500-3500 RPMs,
I will occassionally
(about once every 30 times) hear a noise that can
best be described as a
"groan." The groan lasts until I pass 3500 RPMs
and then disappears. If I
slow down, I usually can't get the groan
back... There don't appear to
be any performance problems and other
than the noise and I haven't
experienced any other symptoms. It's
happened both when the engines warm and
cold...
The only thing I can think of that is RPM-based is the
turbos. Do I
have a turbo going out? Any other ideas? I haven't
had a chance to take
it into the dealer since I bought it, but they didn't
see any problems
with it during my pre-buyer's inspection.
Thanks in
advance...
- -AndyB
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Date:
Mon, 12 Apr 1999 18:56:54 EDT
From: Aso8@aol.com
Subject: Re: Team3S: Bonneville
Salt Flats (was Ahh some good news...) -Reply
Andrew, did they require
that you purchase special tires to make a run?
Thanks Arty 91
VR-4
Snip...In a message dated 4/12/99 3:31:29 PM Eastern Daylight
Time,
andrewb@infowest.com
writes:
<< Subj: Team3S: Bonneville Salt Flats (was Ahh some good
news...)
- -Reply
Date: 4/12/99 3:31:29 PM Eastern Daylight
Time
From: andrewb@infowest.com (Andrew
Brilliant)
Sender: owner-stealth-3000gt@list.sirius.com
Reply-to:
stealth-3000gt@list.sirius.com
To:
stealth-3000gt@list.sirius.com
>
It's a National park. But they only allow racing a few times a year for
only
> a month or so. Possibly he was on there out of
season...
-snip-
Apparently it's an EPA protection
thing. The roads were open and there were
no signs,
so they
just told us to go. He said they always arrest kids out there for
par
>>
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Date:
Mon, 12 Apr 1999 19:08:02 EDT
From: CHiLER555@aol.com
Subject:
Team3S: Sidemarkers
How do u think sidemarker lights would
look on our cars? And how hard do
yours think it would be to
install?
Larry A.
94 3000gt SL
glacier pearl white
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Date:
Mon, 12 Apr 1999 16:15:24 -0800
From: Dan Jett <djett@corp.ultratech.com>
Subject:
Team3S: Odd noise at 2500-3500 RPMs -Reply
** High Priority
**
Can't say what it is, though I've experienced this as well. When
I
hear it, I try to hold the rev's consistantly to try to determine
the
source, but no dice...I thought perhaps it was exhaust
scavenge....
Dan
92 Stealth TT Pearl White
HKS dual power flow
intake
centerforce dual friction clutch
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Date:
Tue, 13 Apr 1999 11:16:55 +1200
From: Kevin Clark <Kevin.Clark@hnz.co.nz>
Subject:
RE: Team3S: Odd noise at 2500-3500 RPMs
> I will occasionally (about
once every 30 times) hear a noise
> that can best be described as a
"groan." The groan lasts until
> I pass 3500 RPMs and then
disappears.
Could be exhaust related? I say this because the active
exhaust
changeover point is at 3500RPM... When operating in "Silent"
mode
this is the point at which the exhaust cuts back to Sport.
Although
this would usually cause the drone to appear, rather than
disappear?
Could the groan be from the tranny? (let's hope
not)
Cheers,
Kevin Clark
'91 GTO-VR4
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Date:
Mon, 12 Apr 1999 16:17:38 -0700
From: "Bill" <compren@lightspeed.net>
Subject:
Re: Team3S: Ahh some good news... (was Records for stock turbos)
>
>BTW we once again stuck the (inacurate albeit), speedo at 176 mph.
I
love
> the salt flats. However in 2 minutes we consumed roughly
1/4 tank of gas
at that speed.
Yuck, 5 gallons of gas in 6
miles? Remind me to slow down...
(Gas in Vegas is $1.80+
now)
- -Bill
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Date:
Mon, 12 Apr 1999 16:20:18 -0700
From: Art Charette K6XT <k6xt@arrl.net>
Subject: RE: Team3S: Camber
fix for lowering springs
Stillen (www.stillen.com) professes to have a bolt-on
plate for this.
Art Charette
k6xt@arrl.net
92TT
- -----Original
Message-----
From: owner-stealth-3000gt@list.sirius.com
[mailto:owner-stealth-3000gt@list.sirius.com]On
Behalf Of Ron Thompson
Sent: Tuesday, March 23, 1999 5:37 PM
To: stealth@starnet.net; stealth-3000gt@list.sirius.com
Subject:
Team3S: Camber fix for lowering springs
[snip]
the low down on
how to fix the negative camber created by lowering
springs.
On the
front you must elongate the shock tower mounting holes to give
extra positive
camber.
[snip]
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Date:
Mon, 12 Apr 1999 19:22:30 -0400
From: Gavin Wallis <wallisg@mwaa.com>
Subject: Team3S: Odd
noise at 2500-3500 RPMs -Reply
No we can get into the lovely fun of
describing engine sounds over
e-mail :). Nontheless, if it was sort of a high
pitched groan as opposed to
a low pitched rumblish groan, then i know what
your talking about.
Mine happens arounds 3000rpms...i'm pretty sure it's
a turbo...haven't
gotten it up on jacks to verify. But i also haven't lost
any power so i
haven't bothered to claim it under warranty yet. But i
will.
Gavin
'94 Black VR-4
>>> Andrew Biddle <andyb@chainsaw.com> 04/12/99 06:58pm
>>>
Hello Everyone,
Not sure if this is a 300GT VR-4 newbie
question of not, but here goes:
I've just recently purchased a 1992 VR-4
and absolutely love it. The
only thing I've noticed as a problem is
that, at roughly 2500-3500 RPMs,
I will occassionally (about once every 30
times) hear a noise that can
best be described as a "groan." The groan lasts
until I pass 3500 RPMs
and then disappears. If I slow down, I usually can't
get the groan
back... There don't appear to be any performance problems
and other
than the noise and I haven't experienced any other symptoms.
It's
happened both when the engines warm and cold...
The only thing I
can think of that is RPM-based is the turbos. Do I
have a turbo going
out? Any other ideas? I haven't had a chance to take
it into the dealer
since I bought it, but they didn't see any problems
with it during my
pre-buyer's inspection.
Thanks in advance...
- -AndyB
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Date:
Mon, 12 Apr 1999 16:34:27 -0700
From: Andrew Biddle <andyb@chainsaw.com>
Subject: Re:
Team3S: Odd noise at 2500-3500 RPMs -Reply
It is indeed a high pitched
groan. (Yeah, I had no idea HOW to describe
it via email.)
At
least I'm not alone!
- -AndyB
andyb@chainsaw.com
Gavin Wallis
wrote:
>
> No we can get into the lovely fun of describing engine
sounds over
> e-mail :). Nontheless, if it was sort of a high pitched
groan as opposed to
> a low pitched rumblish groan, then i know what your
talking about.
>
> Mine happens arounds 3000rpms...i'm pretty sure
it's a turbo...haven't
> gotten it up on jacks to verify. But i also
haven't lost any power so i
> haven't bothered to claim it under warranty
yet. But i will.
>
> Gavin
> '94 Black VR-4
>
>
>>> Andrew Biddle <andyb@chainsaw.com> 04/12/99 06:58pm
>>>
> Hello Everyone,
>
> Not sure if this is a
300GT VR-4 newbie question of not, but here goes:
>
> I've just
recently purchased a 1992 VR-4 and absolutely love it. The
> only
thing I've noticed as a problem is that, at roughly 2500-3500 RPMs,
> I
will occassionally (about once every 30 times) hear a noise that can
>
best be described as a "groan." The groan lasts until I pass 3500 RPMs
>
and then disappears. If I slow down, I usually can't get the groan
>
back... There don't appear to be any performance problems and
other
> than the noise and I haven't experienced any other symptoms.
It's
> happened both when the engines warm and cold...
>
>
The only thing I can think of that is RPM-based is the turbos. Do
I
> have a turbo going out? Any other ideas? I haven't had a chance
to take
> it into the dealer since I bought it, but they didn't see any
problems
> with it during my pre-buyer's inspection.
>
>
Thanks in advance...
> -AndyB
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web page is
> http://www.bobforrest.com/Team3S.htm
>
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Date:
Mon, 12 Apr 1999 16:41:04 -0800
From: Dan Jett <djett@corp.ultratech.com>
Subject:
Team3S: Odd noise at 2500-3500 RPMs -Reply -Reply
** High Priority
**
As far as tone/pitch is concerned, the sound I'm describing
sounds
like a low rumble, like going over grooves in the
road...Definitely
not a turbo (as far as my ears are concerned). I could be
wrong...At
any rate, it's not a whistling sound.
Dan
92
Stealth TT Pearl White
HKS dual power flow intake
Centerforce dual
friction
slightly audible low frequency rumble feature at 3500rpm's
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Date:
Mon, 12 Apr 1999 19:51:43 -0400
From: Leland Gray <grayda@erols.com>
Subject: Re:
Team3S: Sidemarkers
I think it would look tight. I
think all it would take is a hole, and some splicing to
the turn
signal/parking light. That way it's on w/ the parking lights, but also
flashes
w/ the blinker.
Leland
CHiLER555@aol.com wrote:
> How do
u think sidemarker lights would look on our cars? And how hard do
>
yours think it would be to install?
>
> Larry A.
>
> 94
3000gt SL
>
> glacier pearl white
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Date:
Mon, 12 Apr 1999 18:04:23 -0600
From: Andrew Brilliant <andrewb@infowest.com>
Subject: Re:
Team3S: Bonneville Salt Flats (was Ahh some good news...) -Reply
No, we
just sort of.. drove out there, there wan't anything official about it. In
fact
it was apparently illegal.
The tires that they used for the land
speed record were not tires at all.. they were
aluminum wheels. Which
is apparently the best thing for that. Very little
rolling
resistance. Of course, driving on our aluminum wheels probably
wouldn't have the same
effect. We ran our tires at just
under the max PSI for the Top Speed runs. and VR-4
at 28/24 for the 1/4
mile. Using a cigarette lighter powered air pump. (It takes
a
while for those little things to pump out 48 PSI).
Aso8@aol.com wrote:
> Andrew, did they
require that you purchase special tires to make a run?
- -snip-
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Inc.
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Date:
Mon, 12 Apr 1999 17:17:42 -0700
From: wce@bc.sympatico.ca
Subject: Re:
Team3S: Odd noise at 2500-3500 RPMs -Reply -Reply
Dan Jett
wrote:
> ** High Priority **
>
> As far as tone/pitch is
concerned, the sound I'm describing sounds
> like a low rumble, like going
over grooves in the road...Definitely
> not a turbo (as far as my ears are
concerned). I could be wrong...At
> any rate, it's not a whistling
sound.
Are you cruising in the tour mode with your exhaust system? I
f so, it automatically
opens into a throatier sport mode in the
rpm range you are discribing ...at 3000 If
memeory serves me correctly (but
then I hide my OWN Easter eggs so memory is great,
but
short.)
Best
Darc
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Date:
Mon, 12 Apr 1999 20:26:06 -0400
From: William Lynn Larsen <wlarsen@ibm.net>
Subject: Re: Team3S:
Odd noise at 2500-3500 RPMs -Reply
It sounds as though (pun intended) you
are hitting some sort of
resonance point. I wonder if the stock air filter is
getting into a
vibration (sort of like making a whistle out of raisins box
when you
were a kid.) Try replacing it with a K&N filter
charger.
Regards,
Lynn
Andrew Biddle wrote:
>
> It
is indeed a high pitched groan. (Yeah, I had no idea HOW to
describe
> it via email.)
>
> At least I'm not alone!
>
> -AndyB
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Date:
Mon, 12 Apr 1999 17:56:05 -0700
From: "james berry" <fastmax@home.com>
Subject: Re: Team3S:
Odd noise at 2500-3500 RPMs
>
>I've just recently purchased a
1992 VR-4 and absolutely love it. The
>only thing I've noticed as a
problem is that, at roughly 2500-3500 RPMs,
>I will occassionally (about
once every 30 times) hear a noise that can
>best be described as a
"groan." The groan lasts until I pass 3500 RPMs
>and then disappears. If I
slow down, I usually can't get the groan
>back
If you have the HKS
filter it sounds like you're talking about the hooting
sound that shows up
about .5 BAR. As long as you can hold boost at
that level you can hear the
hooting. I assume its some kind of resonance
in the inlet system. Mine
started after I installed the FIPK filter.
Jim
Berry
------93 "arrest me red" Stealth TT
-----
SSBC @ 1.0 BAR, K&N FIPK, Magnecore wire, NGK @
.034
G--Tech 0 --60 4.75 sec. 1/4
13.3 @
110
[ suspension mods next ]
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Date:
Mon, 12 Apr 1999 20:57:16 -0400
From: William Lynn Larsen <wlarsen@ibm.net>
Subject: Team3S:
Extended warranties
Several people have asked recently about extended
warranties; I found
this link off of the automotive section of The Buyers
Guide. They say
they write service contracts for new and used
vehicles.
Alternative Auto Warranties - Low cost alternative service
contracts
http://www.newcaralternative.com+23595+h+8
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Date:
Mon, 12 Apr 1999 18:40:47 -0800
From: Dan Jett <djett@corp.ultratech.com>
Subject:
Re: Team3S: Odd noise at 2500-3500 RPMs -Reply -Reply -Reply
** High
Priority **
Actually, I keep my exhaust in sport mode at all times. I
tried
switching to tour mode to see if it made a difference, but it
didn't.
Something tells me it is exhaust related. Must be some
resonance
around that engine harmonic....(hmmm...Not buying that one, are
you?)
Dan
92 Stealth TT
HKS dual power thingy
Centerforce grabby
thingy
contra bass gremlin choir at 3500 rpms...
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