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Team3S Digest         Wednesday, April 7 1999         Volume 01 : Number 145




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Date: Tue, 6 Apr 1999 08:37:37 -0700
From: "james berry" <fastmax@home.com>
Subject: Fw: Team3S: Fw: RPS Clutch / flywheel

I posted this the other day and received no response. At a minimum
I would like to get a set of used syncros to show him[ I'll pay shipping ] .
If anyone has an old set laying around email me fastmax@home.com
                           JIm Berry


[snip]

> The Mueller Billet
>Aluminum Flywheel!  This thing is very light, weighing in at 13lbs (custom
>11&12 lb units avail.)  Compared to the stock 25lb+ flywheel.  It is a one
>piece design that is made by mueller fabricators in CA.  I can offer these
>for the TT and the NT cars at $560TT and $550NT>
>
[snip]
>>his web page says if it's can be made of metal we can do it ---- anybody
>>talk to him about syncro rings.
>>
>>   Jim berry
>
>
>I answered my own question by calling Mueller Fabricators and his response
>was ---- sure no problem !!
>I know we've looked at this approach before but it seems that when all was
>said and done, more was said, than done. Has anyone made any progress
>on the syncro-ring issue.
>I don't have any syncros to take in and show him, but if this is still an
>unresolved
>issue I'll be happy to follow up on the possibility of them fabricating the
>rings.
>If someone could provide me with used rings I could take them in for him
>to look at. If he can fabricate them he would, at some time need a new set
>to copy. However as a first step used rings should suffice.
>If on the other hand there is a Getrag/Mitsu solution in the offing I'll
>just hide and watch.
>
>Jim Berry                    ------93     "arrest me red" Stealth  TT -----
>                   SSBC @  1.0 BAR, K&N FIPK, Magnecore wire, NGK @ .034
>                             G--Tech    0 --60  4.9 sec.    1/4  13.3 @ 110
>                                               [ suspension mods next ]
>

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Date: Tue, 06 Apr 1999 11:39:11 -0500
From: Wayne <wala@hypertech-inc.com>
Subject: Re: Team3S: new toy

I know you don't want to hear this, but iv'e always been one to look at the
worst case senerio first. The combination of the fuse blowing as soon as
it's pushed in (which is an indication that there is a short in the
wiring), and the fact that you got such a good deal on the car suggests
that it's possible that the car has been repaired from a collision.
Hopefully this is not the case, because if it is, it will be VERY difficult
to track down the short. I'm just bringing this up so you're aware of it.
Hopefully, once you have the book in hand, you will see where the problem
is. I don't have a manual for that year, so i cant help decide if these
circuits are tied together........Good luck.

Wayne

At 03:37 PM 4/5/99 , you wrote:
>I just bought (stole, $12,750) a '94 VR-4. It has a few bugs I need to get
>worked out. My other car is a 91 RT/TT (for sale soon) so I am not very
>familiar with the new one.
>
>The main things wrong with it are:
>1 active aero doesn't work
>2 dash lamps don't work
>3 interior fuse #7, headlamp relay pops as soon as I put it in (headlights
>work fine)
>I would look in my manual, but it's in Chicago. The car and I are presently
>in Los Angeles. I know how well Mitsu labels all their fuses, so was
>wondering if all 3 things are related. A short in the aero causes the fuse
>to pop which turns off the dash lights? I know I'm stretching, but to
>troubleshoot you mirrors you check the lighter. Is there anyone out there
>who could help me out.


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Date: Tue, 06 Apr 1999 11:53:14 -0500
From: Merritt <merritt@cedar-rapids.net>
Subject: Team3S: Water Pump Woes

Thanks to all who contributed to my "leaking coolant" problem.
Those who said "water pump" were dead on.

A pressure test at the Mitsu dealer confirmed that, yes indeed, the water
pump is leaking, and they are now replacing it -- along with the timing
belt and tensioner, all covered by my extended warranty.

Thanks to those who suggested replacing the belt because of getting coolant
on it. The dealer was quite receptive to the idea, and argued effectively
with the warranty company to get the belt and tensioner covered under the
warranty. I got the impression that they would have suggested it anyway,
even if I didn't bring it up, but you never know.

So far, my $1700 warranty has paid for a $3200 transmission and now a $700+
water pump.

My 60,000 service was done on the car a year ago (new timing belt) prior to
purchase, so there's a lesson here: When you get YOUR 60,000 mile service
done, replace the water pump and tensioner, too. It costs around $700 to go
in there for a timing belt (parts and labor), so the added cost of a water
pump and tensioner is trivial.

A plug here for my Mitsu dealer, Bob Zimmerman Ford/Mitsubishi in Cedar
Rapids. They helped me buy the car in St. Louis by telling me what to watch
out for (clutch, Getrag, 60000 mile service, get a warranty), then they
have since serviced the car, replaced the Getrag, and now the water pump,
all without a hitch.  The mechanics even treat the VR4 with a certain
amount of respect.  I know that Mitsu dealers get slammed left and right on
this forum. So, if any folks on the list live in Iowa, western Illinois,
northern Missouri, or southern Wisconsin, and can't find adequate service
in their neck of the woods, try Zimmerman. We are about five hours from
every Midwestern city.

Finally, to end this dreary diatribe, some of you may remember that I
experienced severe overheating whilst running  Porsche Club drivers
schools. Whenever I ran it in 2nd gear and got lots of turbo boost, it ran
very hot. I could cool it off by staying in 3rd gear for a lap.  I have
been attributing the problem to underhood heat from the precats that's
being trapped by our sealed-up hood --  in spite of the fact that none of
the other road racers have reported similar problems.  Question: Could this
overheating have been caused by the water pump starting to go bad last
year?  Does a water pump go slowly or all at once? With the first event
coming up in two weeks, I think I shall forgo removing the hood seals and
jacking up the back of the hood, and wait to see if the overheating problem
comes back.

Again, thanks to everyone on the list for their help.
It really pays to ask the group when a problem arises.
But that's what this forum is for, eh?

Rich/old poop/94 VR4






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Date: Mon, 05 Apr 1999 18:02:10 -0500
From: "Todd Schmalzried" <Q11981@email.mot.com>
Subject: Re: Team3S: new toy

No, it wasn't in a collision. I thought that too. The guy I bought it from
is Australian. He has to go back home, and just wanted to get out of the
loan. I paid off the loan, he lost all his equity. It worked out really well
for me, so far. It need a little TLC, just like most used cars. New weather
stripping, scuffed & peeling rims, thorough detailing, lots of little
things... You know stuff only people who really love their cars bother to
fix.

Thanks for the reply though

Wayne wrote:
> the fact that you got such a good deal on the car suggests
> that it's possible that the car has been repaired from a collision.
>
- --
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Date: Tue, 6 Apr 1999 12:04:23 -0600
From: "Palamara, Peter" <pala@gwl.com>
Subject: RE: Team3S: new toy

Its sounds as though the car has been a water car. My friend bought a iroc
that was in a flood and had tons of electrical problems from the getgo but
the car was cheap though!

92 3000 GTO MMC
500 H.P. of Fun
Plates (HIPRESR)
(303) 689-4733


- -----Original Message-----
From: Wayne [mailto:wala@hypertech-inc.com]
Sent: Tuesday, April 06, 1999 10:39 AM
To: stealth-3000gt@list.sirius.com
Subject: Re: Team3S: new toy


I know you don't want to hear this, but iv'e always been one to look at the
worst case senerio first. The combination of the fuse blowing as soon as
it's pushed in (which is an indication that there is a short in the
wiring), and the fact that you got such a good deal on the car suggests
that it's possible that the car has been repaired from a collision.
Hopefully this is not the case, because if it is, it will be VERY difficult
to track down the short. I'm just bringing this up so you're aware of it.
Hopefully, once you have the book in hand, you will see where the problem
is. I don't have a manual for that year, so i cant help decide if these
circuits are tied together........Good luck.

Wayne

At 03:37 PM 4/5/99 , you wrote:
>I just bought (stole, $12,750) a '94 VR-4. It has a few bugs I need to get
>worked out. My other car is a 91 RT/TT (for sale soon) so I am not very
>familiar with the new one.
>
>The main things wrong with it are:
>1 active aero doesn't work
>2 dash lamps don't work
>3 interior fuse #7, headlamp relay pops as soon as I put it in (headlights
>work fine)
>I would look in my manual, but it's in Chicago. The car and I are presently
>in Los Angeles. I know how well Mitsu labels all their fuses, so was
>wondering if all 3 things are related. A short in the aero causes the fuse
>to pop which turns off the dash lights? I know I'm stretching, but to
>troubleshoot you mirrors you check the lighter. Is there anyone out there
>who could help me out.


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Date: Tue, 06 Apr 1999 11:24:26 -0700
From: Ken Middaugh <middaugh@omega.gat.com>
Subject: Re: Team3S: new toy

Todd Schmalzried wrote:
>
> No, it wasn't in a collision. I thought that too. The guy I bought it from
> is Australian. He has to go back home, and just wanted to get out of the
> loan. I paid off the loan, he lost all his equity. It worked out really well
> for me, so far. It need a little TLC, just like most used cars. New weather
> stripping, scuffed & peeling rims, thorough detailing, lots of little
> things... You know stuff only people who really love their cars bother to
> fix.

Hey Todd,

Did you pick that one up in San Diego from Peter the Austrailian?  I
looked at that a couple of weeks ago with a friend.  It is mechanically
sound but needs a lot of TLC.  The front aero dam is missing & the
mechanism is jammed, there are a few tears in the leather, the glass
quarter panels (??) need replacement, and the drivers side has been
repainted.  Good price though.

- --
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Ken Middaugh
General Atomics
San Diego
(619) 455-4510
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Date: Tue, 6 Apr 1999 11:29:38 -0700
From: "Bill" <compren@lightspeed.net>
Subject: Re: Team3S: Spyder

I have 30k miles but I have a 7year 100k warranty...

Borla/K&N,HKS,downpipe, and high flow cat on a white VR-4 spyder...

They were all made in 95 some are called 96's but they're all 95's...

Had a remote put on the top so it can be raised and lowered from the
keyless...

Tires have 5k miles on em...

Asking $40k would probably take $37k but not really in any hurry to sell...

- -Bill

(Las Vegas, NV)

- ----- Original Message -----
From: Scott J Cowan <sjc0u812@juno.com>
To: <stealth-3000gt@list.sirius.com>
Sent: Tuesday, April 06, 1999 7:08 AM
Subject: Team3S: Spyder


> Hey all:
>
> A buddy of mine made the mistake of thinking he needed to go full-exec
> and sold his Spyder last year, buying a LS 400.  That's right, a
> Lexus.....  I did the same thing, and asked him that if in the future he
> was going to smoke that stuff, he should share with his friends.  (Ahem)
> Anyway, what a surprise, his wife is now driving it and he wants another
> Spyder yesterday.  He's looking for a low mileage, black or white (no
> red), '95 or '96 (he mumbled something about "the last year," and because
> I have a VR4, I don't really know enough about the Spyder's, so forgive
> my ignorance).  So if anyone can help, please e-mail me privately, and
> I'll forward the info on to him.  Please keep in mind we live up here in
> sunny, warm, subtropical Milwaukee, so he'd probably prefer to find
> something closer than New Zealand (no offense, Kevin, Cheers!).
>
> Thanks, and best regards,
>
> Scott
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Date: Tue, 06 Apr 1999 11:31:39 -0700
From: Ken Middaugh <middaugh@omega.gat.com>
Subject: Re: Team3S: new toy

>
> At 03:37 PM 4/5/99 , you wrote:
> >I just bought (stole, $12,750) a '94 VR-4. It has a few bugs I need to get
> >worked out. My other car is a 91 RT/TT (for sale soon) so I am not very
> >familiar with the new one.
> >
> >The main things wrong with it are:
> >1 active aero doesn't work
> >2 dash lamps don't work
> >3 interior fuse #7, headlamp relay pops as soon as I put it in (headlights
> >work fine)
> >I would look in my manual, but it's in Chicago. The car and I are presently
> >in Los Angeles. I know how well Mitsu labels all their fuses, so was
> >wondering if all 3 things are related. A short in the aero causes the fuse
> >to pop which turns off the dash lights? I know I'm stretching, but to
> >troubleshoot you mirrors you check the lighter. Is there anyone out there
> >who could help me out.

A little more info on the active aero.  The front dam is missing on this
car.  The hingend bracket that the movable part of the dam attaches to
has jamed on something as the motor retracted.  You will probably have
to loosen the motor/assembly to free the bracket, then perhaps wire the
brackets so it doesn't jam again.  This may return the aero motors to
function properly.

Good luck,
Ken
- --
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General Atomics
San Diego
(619) 455-4510
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Date: Tue, 6 Apr 1999 12:33:46 -0600
From: "Palamara, Peter" <pala@gwl.com>
Subject: RE: Team3S: Spyder

Infiniti of Denver got in 2 spyders both red 95's vr-4. They both have
13,700 miles and in perfect condition. I know they have sold one of them. Oh
and the interior is black, I was inches from buying but decided
naaaaaaaaahhhhhhhhh cant give up hipresr :)

92 3000 GTO MMC
500 H.P. of Fun
Plates (HIPRESR)
(303) 689-4733


- -----Original Message-----
From: Bill [mailto:compren@lightspeed.net]
Sent: Tuesday, April 06, 1999 12:30 PM
To: stealth-3000gt@list.sirius.com
Subject: Re: Team3S: Spyder


I have 30k miles but I have a 7year 100k warranty...

Borla/K&N,HKS,downpipe, and high flow cat on a white VR-4 spyder...

They were all made in 95 some are called 96's but they're all 95's...

Had a remote put on the top so it can be raised and lowered from the
keyless...

Tires have 5k miles on em...

Asking $40k would probably take $37k but not really in any hurry to sell...

- -Bill

(Las Vegas, NV)

- ----- Original Message -----
From: Scott J Cowan <sjc0u812@juno.com>
To: <stealth-3000gt@list.sirius.com>
Sent: Tuesday, April 06, 1999 7:08 AM
Subject: Team3S: Spyder


> Hey all:
>
> A buddy of mine made the mistake of thinking he needed to go full-exec
> and sold his Spyder last year, buying a LS 400.  That's right, a
> Lexus.....  I did the same thing, and asked him that if in the future he
> was going to smoke that stuff, he should share with his friends.  (Ahem)
> Anyway, what a surprise, his wife is now driving it and he wants another
> Spyder yesterday.  He's looking for a low mileage, black or white (no
> red), '95 or '96 (he mumbled something about "the last year," and because
> I have a VR4, I don't really know enough about the Spyder's, so forgive
> my ignorance).  So if anyone can help, please e-mail me privately, and
> I'll forward the info on to him.  Please keep in mind we live up here in
> sunny, warm, subtropical Milwaukee, so he'd probably prefer to find
> something closer than New Zealand (no offense, Kevin, Cheers!).
>
> Thanks, and best regards,
>
> Scott
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Date: Tue, 6 Apr 1999 12:37:54 -0600
From: "Palamara, Peter" <pala@gwl.com>
Subject: Team3S: Seating

Does anyone know where you can pick up some nice and affordable seats for
our cars preferably sparco or cobra??? I'm looking for some and the shops
here in Denver either don't have them or they are too much for their worth
:( Thanx

92 3000 GTO MMC
500 H.P. of Fun
Plates (HIPRESR)
(303) 689-4733


- -----Original Message-----
From: Bill [mailto:compren@lightspeed.net]
Sent: Tuesday, April 06, 1999 12:30 PM
To: stealth-3000gt@list.sirius.com
Subject: Re: Team3S: Spyder


I have 30k miles but I have a 7year 100k warranty...

Borla/K&N,HKS,downpipe, and high flow cat on a white VR-4 spyder...

They were all made in 95 some are called 96's but they're all 95's...

Had a remote put on the top so it can be raised and lowered from the
keyless...

Tires have 5k miles on em...

Asking $40k would probably take $37k but not really in any hurry to sell...

- -Bill

(Las Vegas, NV)

- ----- Original Message -----
From: Scott J Cowan <sjc0u812@juno.com>
To: <stealth-3000gt@list.sirius.com>
Sent: Tuesday, April 06, 1999 7:08 AM
Subject: Team3S: Spyder


> Hey all:
>
> A buddy of mine made the mistake of thinking he needed to go full-exec
> and sold his Spyder last year, buying a LS 400.  That's right, a
> Lexus.....  I did the same thing, and asked him that if in the future he
> was going to smoke that stuff, he should share with his friends.  (Ahem)
> Anyway, what a surprise, his wife is now driving it and he wants another
> Spyder yesterday.  He's looking for a low mileage, black or white (no
> red), '95 or '96 (he mumbled something about "the last year," and because
> I have a VR4, I don't really know enough about the Spyder's, so forgive
> my ignorance).  So if anyone can help, please e-mail me privately, and
> I'll forward the info on to him.  Please keep in mind we live up here in
> sunny, warm, subtropical Milwaukee, so he'd probably prefer to find
> something closer than New Zealand (no offense, Kevin, Cheers!).
>
> Thanks, and best regards,
>
> Scott
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Date: Tue, 06 Apr 1999 13:48:21 -0500
From: Wayne <wala@hypertech-inc.com>
Subject: Re: Team3S: new toy

When i first got my car back on the road, i was running without a front
Aero skirt for a couple weeks while i was hunting for a used one (new is
about $700). The bracket jammed against the car frame and caused the active
aero to quit functioning, much the same as you have just described. I just
un-jammed it and ran with the active aero off from that point until i found
a skirt. My active areo works fine to this day, so this one may have the
same problem. I think i may have to re-iderate the fact that this car may
have seen some damage in it's life though, now knowing that the front skirt
is missing, and one side has been re-painted, if in fact these things are
true.......

At 01:31 PM 4/6/99 , you wrote:
>
>The hingend bracket that the movable part of the dam attaches to
>has jamed on something as the motor retracted.  You will probably have
>to loosen the motor/assembly to free the bracket, then perhaps wire the
>brackets so it doesn't jam again.  This may return the aero motors to
>function properly.
>
>Good luck,
>Ken


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Date: Tue, 6 Apr 1999 12:45:10 -0600
From: "Palamara, Peter" <pala@gwl.com>
Subject: RE: Team3S: new toy

The plastic aero skirt I got from Tallahassee mistu for $375 including all
new pieces for it (the little plastic pieces that cover the jacking point
and access to the fog lights.

92 3000 GTO MMC
500 H.P. of Fun
Plates (HIPRESR)
(303) 689-4733


- -----Original Message-----
From: Wayne [mailto:wala@hypertech-inc.com]
Sent: Tuesday, April 06, 1999 12:48 PM
To: stealth-3000gt@list.sirius.com
Subject: Re: Team3S: new toy


When i first got my car back on the road, i was running without a front
Aero skirt for a couple weeks while i was hunting for a used one (new is
about $700). The bracket jammed against the car frame and caused the active
aero to quit functioning, much the same as you have just described. I just
un-jammed it and ran with the active aero off from that point until i found
a skirt. My active areo works fine to this day, so this one may have the
same problem. I think i may have to re-iderate the fact that this car may
have seen some damage in it's life though, now knowing that the front skirt
is missing, and one side has been re-painted, if in fact these things are
true.......

At 01:31 PM 4/6/99 , you wrote:
>
>The hingend bracket that the movable part of the dam attaches to
>has jamed on something as the motor retracted.  You will probably have
>to loosen the motor/assembly to free the bracket, then perhaps wire the
>brackets so it doesn't jam again.  This may return the aero motors to
>function properly.
>
>Good luck,
>Ken


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Date: Tue, 06 Apr 1999 13:59:14 -0500
From: Merritt <merritt@cedar-rapids.net>
Subject: RE: Team3S: new toy

>Its sounds as though the car has been a water car. My friend bought a iroc
>that was in a flood and had tons of electrical problems from the getgo but
>the car was cheap though!

In Florida, we used to call such cars "submarines."

A hurricane would come through, drown hundreds of cars in salt water, and
the insurance companies would total them out. Unscrupulous used car dealers
(oops, that's a redundancy) would buy the cars, retitle them, dry them out,
and sell them cheap. A year later, they would start to rust, and they would
be a rusted hulk within two years.

Anyone from Florida cringes when we see a car commercial where a car drives
through the surf. There goes another submarine.

Rich/old poop


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Date: Tue, 06 Apr 1999 12:06:11 PDT
From: "Eric Lotter" <elotter@hotmail.com>
Subject: Re: Team3S: Spyder-Best deal ever on one!

I can't hold on to the lead much longer, as I can't afford it, but
someone may.

Norco Mitsu in CA had one listed a couple of weeks ago for 35,000 but
will honor a 3000GT/Stealth International membership $700 over invioce
special.

The car is a 1995 vr-4 spyder, pearl white, all the options with less
than 20k on the odo, (I want to say 16k)

They will sell the car to one of us, (If they haven't already!) for
30,999.

The catch to it, the title is a lemon title because the original owner
could no longer deal with intermittant roof problems. It has since been
fixed.

Email me directly for more info.

Please note, I heard about this car 3 weeks ago and it may not be
avaliable any more so no one should get their hopes up. I was being
greedy and couldn't swing a value added deal for my vr-4 to get it.
Sorry.

Eric
>From: "Bill" <compren@lightspeed.net>
>Reply-To: stealth-3000gt@list.sirius.com
>To: <stealth-3000gt@list.sirius.com>
>Subject: Re: Team3S: Spyder
>Date: Tue, 6 Apr 1999 11:29:38 -0700
>
>I have 30k miles but I have a 7year 100k warranty...
>
>Borla/K&N,HKS,downpipe, and high flow cat on a white VR-4 spyder...
>
>They were all made in 95 some are called 96's but they're all 95's...
>
>Had a remote put on the top so it can be raised and lowered from the
>keyless...
>
>Tires have 5k miles on em...
>
>Asking $40k would probably take $37k but not really in any hurry to
sell...
>
>-Bill
>
>(Las Vegas, NV)
>
>----- Original Message -----
>From: Scott J Cowan <sjc0u812@juno.com>
>To: <stealth-3000gt@list.sirius.com>
>Sent: Tuesday, April 06, 1999 7:08 AM
>Subject: Team3S: Spyder
>
>
>> Hey all:
>>
>> A buddy of mine made the mistake of thinking he needed to go
full-exec
>> and sold his Spyder last year, buying a LS 400.  That's right, a
>> Lexus.....  I did the same thing, and asked him that if in the future
he
>> was going to smoke that stuff, he should share with his friends. 
(Ahem)
>> Anyway, what a surprise, his wife is now driving it and he wants
another
>> Spyder yesterday.  He's looking for a low mileage, black or white (no
>> red), '95 or '96 (he mumbled something about "the last year," and
because
>> I have a VR4, I don't really know enough about the Spyder's, so
forgive
>> my ignorance).  So if anyone can help, please e-mail me privately,
and
>> I'll forward the info on to him.  Please keep in mind we live up here
in
>> sunny, warm, subtropical Milwaukee, so he'd probably prefer to find
>> something closer than New Zealand (no offense, Kevin, Cheers!).
>>
>> Thanks, and best regards,
>>
>> Scott
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Date: Tue, 06 Apr 1999 12:15:06 PDT
From: "Chris S." <shadowphantom_1@hotmail.com>
Subject: Re: Team3S: Spyder-Best deal ever on one!

Its gone now.  But they do have a black 96 VR-4 for $39,995.  I have
been watching that white one for the last few weeks too.  They have been
advertising it for $31,995.  I plan to buy through them near the end of
the summer.  I will have the car shipped back to Michigan.  They said it
would only cost $500 - $700.  Not a bad deal.

Chris

>From: "Eric Lotter" <elotter@hotmail.com>
>Reply-To: stealth-3000gt@list.sirius.com
>To: stealth-3000gt@list.sirius.com
>Subject: Re: Team3S: Spyder-Best deal ever on one!
>Date: Tue, 06 Apr 1999 12:06:11 PDT
>
>I can't hold on to the lead much longer, as I can't afford it, but
>someone may.
>
>Norco Mitsu in CA had one listed a couple of weeks ago for 35,000 but
>will honor a 3000GT/Stealth International membership $700 over invioce
>special.
>
>The car is a 1995 vr-4 spyder, pearl white, all the options with less
>than 20k on the odo, (I want to say 16k)
>
>They will sell the car to one of us, (If they haven't already!) for
>30,999.
>
>The catch to it, the title is a lemon title because the original owner
>could no longer deal with intermittant roof problems. It has since been
>fixed.
>
>Email me directly for more info.
>
>Please note, I heard about this car 3 weeks ago and it may not be
>avaliable any more so no one should get their hopes up. I was being
>greedy and couldn't swing a value added deal for my vr-4 to get it.
>Sorry.
>
>Eric
>>From: "Bill" <compren@lightspeed.net>
>>Reply-To: stealth-3000gt@list.sirius.com
>>To: <stealth-3000gt@list.sirius.com>
>>Subject: Re: Team3S: Spyder
>>Date: Tue, 6 Apr 1999 11:29:38 -0700
>>
>>I have 30k miles but I have a 7year 100k warranty...
>>
>>Borla/K&N,HKS,downpipe, and high flow cat on a white VR-4 spyder...
>>
>>They were all made in 95 some are called 96's but they're all 95's...
>>
>>Had a remote put on the top so it can be raised and lowered from the
>>keyless...
>>
>>Tires have 5k miles on em...
>>
>>Asking $40k would probably take $37k but not really in any hurry to
>sell...
>>
>>-Bill
>>
>>(Las Vegas, NV)
>>
>>----- Original Message -----
>>From: Scott J Cowan <sjc0u812@juno.com>
>>To: <stealth-3000gt@list.sirius.com>
>>Sent: Tuesday, April 06, 1999 7:08 AM
>>Subject: Team3S: Spyder
>>
>>
>>> Hey all:
>>>
>>> A buddy of mine made the mistake of thinking he needed to go
>full-exec
>>> and sold his Spyder last year, buying a LS 400.  That's right, a
>>> Lexus.....  I did the same thing, and asked him that if in the
future
>he
>>> was going to smoke that stuff, he should share with his friends. 
>(Ahem)
>>> Anyway, what a surprise, his wife is now driving it and he wants
>another
>>> Spyder yesterday.  He's looking for a low mileage, black or white
(no
>>> red), '95 or '96 (he mumbled something about "the last year," and
>because
>>> I have a VR4, I don't really know enough about the Spyder's, so
>forgive
>>> my ignorance).  So if anyone can help, please e-mail me privately,
>and
>>> I'll forward the info on to him.  Please keep in mind we live up
here
>in
>>> sunny, warm, subtropical Milwaukee, so he'd probably prefer to find
>>> something closer than New Zealand (no offense, Kevin, Cheers!).
>>>
>>> Thanks, and best regards,
>>>
>>> Scott
>>> ___________________________________________________________________
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Date: Tue, 06 Apr 1999 12:27:51 PDT
From: "Chris S." <shadowphantom_1@hotmail.com>
Subject: Re: Team3S: Spyder-Best deal ever on one!

Its gone now.  But they do have a black 96 VR-4 for $39,995.  I have
been watching that white one for the last few weeks too.  They have been
advertising it for $31,995.  I plan to buy through them near the end of
the summer.  I will have the car shipped back to Michigan.  They said it
would only cost $500 - $700.  Not a bad deal.

Chris

>From: "Eric Lotter" <elotter@hotmail.com>
>Reply-To: stealth-3000gt@list.sirius.com
>To: stealth-3000gt@list.sirius.com
>Subject: Re: Team3S: Spyder-Best deal ever on one!
>Date: Tue, 06 Apr 1999 12:06:11 PDT
>
>I can't hold on to the lead much longer, as I can't afford it, but
>someone may.
>
>Norco Mitsu in CA had one listed a couple of weeks ago for 35,000 but
>will honor a 3000GT/Stealth International membership $700 over invioce
>special.
>
>The car is a 1995 vr-4 spyder, pearl white, all the options with less
>than 20k on the odo, (I want to say 16k)
>
>They will sell the car to one of us, (If they haven't already!) for
>30,999.
>
>The catch to it, the title is a lemon title because the original owner
>could no longer deal with intermittant roof problems. It has since been
>fixed.
>
>Email me directly for more info.
>
>Please note, I heard about this car 3 weeks ago and it may not be
>avaliable any more so no one should get their hopes up. I was being
>greedy and couldn't swing a value added deal for my vr-4 to get it.
>Sorry.
>
>Eric
>>From: "Bill" <compren@lightspeed.net>
>>Reply-To: stealth-3000gt@list.sirius.com
>>To: <stealth-3000gt@list.sirius.com>
>>Subject: Re: Team3S: Spyder
>>Date: Tue, 6 Apr 1999 11:29:38 -0700
>>
>>I have 30k miles but I have a 7year 100k warranty...
>>
>>Borla/K&N,HKS,downpipe, and high flow cat on a white VR-4 spyder...
>>
>>They were all made in 95 some are called 96's but they're all 95's...
>>
>>Had a remote put on the top so it can be raised and lowered from the
>>keyless...
>>
>>Tires have 5k miles on em...
>>
>>Asking $40k would probably take $37k but not really in any hurry to
>sell...
>>
>>-Bill
>>
>>(Las Vegas, NV)
>>
>>----- Original Message -----
>>From: Scott J Cowan <sjc0u812@juno.com>
>>To: <stealth-3000gt@list.sirius.com>
>>Sent: Tuesday, April 06, 1999 7:08 AM
>>Subject: Team3S: Spyder
>>
>>
>>> Hey all:
>>>
>>> A buddy of mine made the mistake of thinking he needed to go
>full-exec
>>> and sold his Spyder last year, buying a LS 400.  That's right, a
>>> Lexus.....  I did the same thing, and asked him that if in the
future
>he
>>> was going to smoke that stuff, he should share with his friends. 
>(Ahem)
>>> Anyway, what a surprise, his wife is now driving it and he wants
>another
>>> Spyder yesterday.  He's looking for a low mileage, black or white
(no
>>> red), '95 or '96 (he mumbled something about "the last year," and
>because
>>> I have a VR4, I don't really know enough about the Spyder's, so
>forgive
>>> my ignorance).  So if anyone can help, please e-mail me privately,
>and
>>> I'll forward the info on to him.  Please keep in mind we live up
here
>in
>>> sunny, warm, subtropical Milwaukee, so he'd probably prefer to find
>>> something closer than New Zealand (no offense, Kevin, Cheers!).
>>>
>>> Thanks, and best regards,
>>>
>>> Scott
>>> ___________________________________________________________________
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Date: Tue, 6 Apr 1999 14:57:38 -0500
From: Scott J Cowan <sjc0u812@juno.com>
Subject: Team3S: Center Caps

Hey all (again):

So I'm getting a bit frustrated trying to find some center caps and clips
for the 17" chromies I bought off George a while back.  The weather is
actually looking like it might behave and I've got the itch real bad to
put them on.  But, I can't seem to find anyone that can truly help me.
If you look at Curt's page (thanks a bundle Curt!) at.....

http://www.geocities.com/MotorCity/Shop/1044/wheels.html

.......the wheels in question look like..............

"91-93, 3000GT VR4 17" (Chrome 93 only)"

........which of course are exactly the same looking wheels as the one's
on the car now, except these are chrome.  I was told the caps and clips
are as follows by my local dealer:

Center Caps -- MB057268
Clips -- MB816557

However, Tall. Mitsu tells me these are for a "Expo," a van.  They are
saying if I can find someone with a '93 VR4 that has these chrome wheels,
they can find the correct caps and clips from the vin.  Anyone help?
Anyone?  Fry?  Bueller?  Please e-mail me privately.

Thanks, and regards,

Scott
'92 VR4
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Date: Tue, 6 Apr 1999 16:51:29 -0400
From: Joshua <joshua@princelaw.com>
Subject: RE: Team3S: Spyder-Best deal ever on one!

I got a better deal.  A 95 spyder red with 20,000 miles, hks air filter,
borla exhaust and HKS Evc IV for $30,000 and the guy kept his car so
spotless it looks brand new.  California is the best place to find them.

-----Original Message-----
From: Chris S. [mailto:shadowphantom_1@hotmail.com]
Sent: Tuesday, April 06, 1999 3:15 PM
To: stealth-3000gt@list.sirius.com
Subject: Re: Team3S: Spyder-Best deal ever on one!

Its gone now.  But they do have a black 96 VR-4 for $39,995.
I have
been watching that white one for the last few weeks too.
They have been
advertising it for $31,995.  I plan to buy through them near
the end of
the summer.  I will have the car shipped back to Michigan.
They said it
would only cost $500 - $700.  Not a bad deal.

Chris

>From: "Eric Lotter" <elotter@hotmail.com>
>Reply-To: stealth-3000gt@list.sirius.com
>To: stealth-3000gt@list.sirius.com
>Subject: Re: Team3S: Spyder-Best deal ever on one!
>Date: Tue, 06 Apr 1999 12:06:11 PDT
>
>I can't hold on to the lead much longer, as I can't afford
it, but
>someone may.
>
>Norco Mitsu in CA had one listed a couple of weeks ago for
35,000 but
>will honor a 3000GT/Stealth International membership $700
over invioce
>special.
>
>The car is a 1995 vr-4 spyder, pearl white, all the options
with less
>than 20k on the odo, (I want to say 16k)
>
>They will sell the car to one of us, (If they haven't
already!) for
>30,999.
>
>The catch to it, the title is a lemon title because the
original owner
>could no longer deal with intermittant roof problems. It
has since been
>fixed.
>
>Email me directly for more info.
>
>Please note, I heard about this car 3 weeks ago and it may
not be
>avaliable any more so no one should get their hopes up. I
was being
>greedy and couldn't swing a value added deal for my vr-4 to
get it.
>Sorry.
>
>Eric
>>From: "Bill" <compren@lightspeed.net>
>>Reply-To: stealth-3000gt@list.sirius.com
>>To: <stealth-3000gt@list.sirius.com>
>>Subject: Re: Team3S: Spyder
>>Date: Tue, 6 Apr 1999 11:29:38 -0700
>>
>>I have 30k miles but I have a 7year 100k warranty...
>>
>>Borla/K&N,HKS,downpipe, and high flow cat on a white VR-4
spyder...
>>
>>They were all made in 95 some are called 96's but they're
all 95's...
>>
>>Had a remote put on the top so it can be raised and
lowered from the
>>keyless...
>>
>>Tires have 5k miles on em...
>>
>>Asking $40k would probably take $37k but not really in any
hurry to
>sell...
>>
>>-Bill
>>
>>(Las Vegas, NV)
>>
>>----- Original Message -----
>>From: Scott J Cowan <sjc0u812@juno.com>
>>To: <stealth-3000gt@list.sirius.com>
>>Sent: Tuesday, April 06, 1999 7:08 AM
>>Subject: Team3S: Spyder
>>
>>
>>> Hey all:
>>>
>>> A buddy of mine made the mistake of thinking he needed
to go
>full-exec
>>> and sold his Spyder last year, buying a LS 400.  That's
right, a
>>> Lexus.....  I did the same thing, and asked him that if
in the
future
>he
>>> was going to smoke that stuff, he should share with his
friends. 
>(Ahem)
>>> Anyway, what a surprise, his wife is now driving it and
he wants
>another
>>> Spyder yesterday.  He's looking for a low mileage, black
or white
(no
>>> red), '95 or '96 (he mumbled something about "the last
year," and
>because
>>> I have a VR4, I don't really know enough about the
Spyder's, so
>forgive
>>> my ignorance).  So if anyone can help, please e-mail me
privately,
>and
>>> I'll forward the info on to him.  Please keep in mind we
live up
here
>in
>>> sunny, warm, subtropical Milwaukee, so he'd probably
prefer to find
>>> something closer than New Zealand (no offense, Kevin,
Cheers!).
>>>
>>> Thanks, and best regards,
>>>
>>> Scott
>>>
___________________________________________________________________
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Date: Tue, 06 Apr 1999 14:34:02 -0500
From: "Todd Schmalzried" <Q11981@email.mot.com>
Subject: Re: Team3S: new toy UPDATE

Over lunch I went outside and it was raining, so I decided to clean some on
the interior. I took the trim off around the radio to clean it. While I had
it off I noticed I could remove the panel with the aero, cruise, and AUX
POWER. while disconnecting the wires a dime and a penny fell out. I cleaned
and reassembled everything (minus the .11), and replaced the fuse. The fuse
didn't blow, and I now have dash lights. I'll look at the front spoiler
sometime when it's a little nicer outside.

The car may have been in an accident with the original owner. The guy I
bought it from said he didn't have any accidents. He was honest about
everything else, including an intermittent ABS light (bad rear wheel
sensor), so I believe him. One of the wheels has a big dent in it, the front
lip is gone, part of drivers side is repainted (this from Ken M. who's
friend was looking at the car). I was going to look at lunch, but... It
looks like someone hit a curb, and then grazed a pole or something like
that. Lots of cars have been in accidents. It tracks straight, doesn't make
any funny noises when turning, looks pretty straight (in the shade), the
pain matches nearly perfectly, and it runs well. A lot of people here on the
list have paid book value and found similar or worse. Unless I later find
out it has frame damage I got a great deal.

Thanks for the replies.

> >The main things wrong with it are:
> >1 active aero doesn't work
> >2 dash lamps don't work
> >3 interior fuse #7, headlamp relay pops as soon as I put it in (headlights
> >work fine)
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Date: Wed, 7 Apr 1999 10:20:00 +1200
From: Kevin Clark <Kevin.Clark@hnz.co.nz>
Subject: Team3S: Replacement Y-Pipe rubber seal

The rubber seal that sits in the end of the Y-Pipe (Air Hose A)
is looking a little under the weather and I would like to replace
it.  I have however been told that this seal can not be purchased
seperately and can only be gotten with the comple Y-Pipe at a
cost of US$110.

Does anyone know if this is correct?  Is there a part#?

Of course it goes without saying but it would be much appreciated
if anyone has a spare one floating around to maybe send it over :)

Cheers,
Kevin Clark
'91 GTO-VR4


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Date: Wed, 7 Apr 1999 10:22:05 +1200
From: Kevin Clark <Kevin.Clark@hnz.co.nz>
Subject: Team3S: First Gathering in New Zealand !

On another note, I have whipped up a quick little page with
a few photos from the first ever GTO Gathering down here in
New Zealand !

http://www.geocities.com/SiliconValley/8443/Other_club-pics.html

We have already made plans to have our own NZ website, so the
above link is only a temporary measure.

Cheers,
Kevin Clark
'91 GTO-VR4
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Date: Tue, 6 Apr 1999 17:23:52 -0500
From: "CEnder (Chris Chiasson)" <cender@email.msn.com>
Subject: Team3S: Wheels/Tire Combo Question

Will Volk Challenge F-Zero wheels in 18"x9"J with BFG g-force T/A KD 18"
265mm wide tires fit on my 1991 Stealth TT?



- ----- Original Message -----
From: Todd Schmalzried <Q11981@email.mot.com>
To: <stealth-3000gt@list.sirius.com>
Sent: Tuesday, April 06, 1999 2:34 PM
Subject: Re: Team3S: new toy UPDATE


>
> Over lunch I went outside and it was raining, so I decided to clean some
on
> the interior. I took the trim off around the radio to clean it. While I
had
> it off I noticed I could remove the panel with the aero, cruise, and AUX
> POWER. while disconnecting the wires a dime and a penny fell out. I
cleaned
> and reassembled everything (minus the .11), and replaced the fuse. The
fuse
> didn't blow, and I now have dash lights. I'll look at the front spoiler
> sometime when it's a little nicer outside.
>
> The car may have been in an accident with the original owner. The guy I
> bought it from said he didn't have any accidents. He was honest about
> everything else, including an intermittent ABS light (bad rear wheel
> sensor), so I believe him. One of the wheels has a big dent in it, the
front
> lip is gone, part of drivers side is repainted (this from Ken M. who's
> friend was looking at the car). I was going to look at lunch, but... It
> looks like someone hit a curb, and then grazed a pole or something like
> that. Lots of cars have been in accidents. It tracks straight, doesn't
make
> any funny noises when turning, looks pretty straight (in the shade), the
> pain matches nearly perfectly, and it runs well. A lot of people here on
the
> list have paid book value and found similar or worse. Unless I later find
> out it has frame damage I got a great deal.
>
> Thanks for the replies.
>
> > >The main things wrong with it are:
> > >1 active aero doesn't work
> > >2 dash lamps don't work
> > >3 interior fuse #7, headlamp relay pops as soon as I put it in
(headlights
> > >work fine)
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Date: Tue, 06 Apr 1999 18:48:32 -0400
From: josesini <josesini@engin.umich.edu>
Subject: Team3S: Parts For Sale

First, I'd like to thank everyone who responded to my original post.

Anyhow, here's a list of the remaining items:


NEW PARTS are 25% OFF from what I paid.
                                           NEW PRICE  SALE PRICE
===============================================================
Stainless Steel Goodridge Brake Lines (DOT)   $270      $200 (was $240)



USED PARTS are all 30% - 60% OFF from what new ones cost.
                                           NEW PRICE   SALE PRICE
================================================================
Stainless Steel EGR Plates                    $ 50       $ 35
Cusco Aluminum Rear Strut Bar                 $255       $180 (was $200)

Green 92 Dodge Stealth R/T TT, 74k miles,    $40,000   $10,000 (was
$11,000)
===========================================================================
The following was installed in the last 2,000 miles
- ---------------------------------------------------
ACT 6puck racing clutch disk and ACT 2900 lb pressure plate,
255/40ZR17 Yokohama Nexus tires, New Transfercase,
Rebuilt 25 spline 5 speed transmission,

The following was done at the 60k miles service:
- ------------------------------------------------
Timing Belt service, Stock ECS struts, RSR springs,
Crossdrilled rotors and Metal Matrix pads, magnecore 8.5mm wires,
VDO Boost Gage, Mobil One 15w40 summers, 0w30 winters,
almost all records available.

PLEASE contact me via private email at josesini@engin.umich.edu.

Thanks,

Jose
josesini@engin.umich.edu
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Date: Tue, 6 Apr 1999 18:53:14 EDT
From: Aso8@aol.com
Subject: Re: Team3S: Replacement Y-Pipe rubber seal

Yes. thats correct. I here Crazy Glue has worked for somebody???
Arty 91 VR-4

In a message dated 4/6/99 6:18:57 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
Kevin.Clark@hnz.co.nz writes:

<< ubj: Team3S: Replacement Y-Pipe rubber seal
 Date: 4/6/99 6:18:57 PM Eastern Daylight Time
 From: Kevin.Clark@hnz.co.nz (Kevin Clark)
 Sender: owner-stealth-3000gt@list.sirius.com
 Reply-to: stealth-3000gt@list.sirius.com
 To: stealth-3000gt@list.sirius.com ('stealth-3000gt@list.sirius.com')
 
 
 The rubber seal that sits in the end of the Y-Pipe (Air Hose A)
 is looking a little under the weather and I would like to replace
 it.  I have however been told that this seal can not be purchased
 seperately and can only be gotten with the comple Y-Pipe at a
 cost of US$110.
 
 Does anyone know if this is correct?  Is there a part#?
  >>

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Date: Wed, 7 Apr 1999 08:49:04 +1000
From: "Bryan G Langton" <blangtonb@bigpond.com>
Subject: Re: Team3S: First Gathering in New Zealand !

Hi
you would be the closest group to me in Australia.

Do you have a good supplier for parts at a sensible price etc etc. please
advise
- ----- Original Message -----
From: Kevin Clark <Kevin.Clark@hnz.co.nz>
To: <stealth-3000gt@list.sirius.com>
Cc: <stealth@starnet.net>
Sent: Wednesday, 7 April 1999 8:22
Subject: Team3S: First Gathering in New Zealand !


>
> On another note, I have whipped up a quick little page with
> a few photos from the first ever GTO Gathering down here in
> New Zealand !
>
> http://www.geocities.com/SiliconValley/8443/Other_club-pics.html
>
> We have already made plans to have our own NZ website, so the
> above link is only a temporary measure.
>
> Cheers,
> Kevin Clark
> '91 GTO-VR4
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Date: Wed, 7 Apr 1999 08:55:12 +1000
From: "Bryan G Langton" <blangtonb@bigpond.com>
Subject: Re: Team3S: First Gathering in New Zealand !

Hi
You are the nearest group to me in Australia..Do you have a good supplier of
parts at a real price. I have a 1995 full spec gto.

regards
Bryan
- ----- Original Message -----
From: Kevin Clark <Kevin.Clark@hnz.co.nz>
To: <stealth-3000gt@list.sirius.com>
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Sent: Wednesday, 7 April 1999 8:22
Subject: Team3S: First Gathering in New Zealand !


>
> On another note, I have whipped up a quick little page with
> a few photos from the first ever GTO Gathering down here in
> New Zealand !
>
> http://www.geocities.com/SiliconValley/8443/Other_club-pics.html
>
> We have already made plans to have our own NZ website, so the
> above link is only a temporary measure.
>
> Cheers,
> Kevin Clark
> '91 GTO-VR4
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Date: Tue, 06 Apr 1999 18:47:25 -0500
From: Merritt <merritt@cedar-rapids.net>
Subject: Team3S: Back from the dealer

Got my 1994 VR4 back from the Mitsu dealer with its new water pump, timing
belt and tensioner: $770.
For me and my warranty, that's $100.

The mechanic said a little metal tab on my crankshaft position sensor had
come loose and rotated 90 deg. He fixed it, but wondered if I had noticed
any performance losses. Nope. Should I have? He says maybe it rotated into
just the right wrong position.

Next, he pointed out a fuel pressure sending unit, and asked if I had any
work done on the car by another dealer who might have installed it as a
diagnostic aid (apparently, it's also a Mitsu tool). Nope. I think the
previous owner did a little racing, because I keep finding clues like this.
Why would you drag racers permanently install a fuel pressure sending unit?
(I know, I know, to measure fuel pressure. But permanently?)

A few other clues: it has an F&K air cleaner, the oil cooler has been moved
in front of the radiator, and the top turbo pipe has been wrapped in
aluminum foil.

It was a lease car, so most of what he put on, he took off.

What else should I look for? I didn't find the aquarium valve, or any
evidence of a boost controller installation, but some kind of gauge has
been mounted inside the car (to the right of the radio, by the passenger's
left knee -- I always thought it was a cell phone mount, but maybe not) and
it appears that something was glued to the headliner by the windshield
pillar on the driver's side. You have to flip down the visor to see it. Any
of this sound suspicious?

Gee, it'd be nice to find that it already has an uprated fuel pump, big
injectors, bigger turbos, bigger intercoolers...nah, I ain't THAT lucky.

Rich/old poop/94 VR4

 

.


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Date: Tue, 06 Apr 1999 17:05:10 -0700
From: Ken Middaugh <middaugh@omega.gat.com>
Subject: Re: Team3S: Replacement Y-Pipe rubber seal

Kevin Clark wrote:
>
> The rubber seal that sits in the end of the Y-Pipe (Air Hose A)
> is looking a little under the weather and I would like to replace
> it.  I have however been told that this seal can not be purchased
> seperately and can only be gotten with the comple Y-Pipe at a
> cost of US$110.

Well, apparently the owner before me (or his mechanic) decided to
replace the seal on my '91 y-pipe.  It looks like the old seal was cut
off, and a short piece of hose was installed with a clamp on each end.
It has never blown off on me up to 15psi (occasionally 18 psi before I
knew better).

You should be able to find some hose in the correct diameter such as
described at
http://www.turbonetics.com, Catalog, T(urbonetics) Current Catalog,
Silicone Connectors.
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General Atomics
San Diego
(619) 455-4510
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Date: Wed, 07 Apr 1999 07:39:16 -0500
From: xwing <xwing@execpc.com>
Subject: Re: Team3S: Replacement Y-Pipe rubber seal

Aso8@aol.com wrote:

> Yes.  I hear Crazy Glue has worked for somebody?
> Arty 91 VR-4
>
>  From:  Kevin.Clark@hnz.co.nz (Kevin Clark)
>   rubber seal in end of  Y-Pipe Air Hose A
>  looks under the weather and I would like to replace
>  it.  this seal comes only with  complete Y-Pipe cost  $110.

Yes, I put my rubber seal back onto the plastic with Super Glue.  First, I cleaned it
with like Windex or ?brake cleaner, some very low residue oil-remover; then I applied a
moderate (assure good contact over most of gasket but not schmutzified) amount of Super
Glue, put gasket ON, in proper position (so little "C" shape at end of rubber clamps
over the edge of the plastic pipe nicely) and no problems since!

Jack Tertadian

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Date: Tue, 6 Apr 1999 21:17:37 -0400
From: "Lorne Silkes" <vr4@cwia.com>
Subject: Re: Team3S: Spyder-Best deal ever on one!

Eric and everyone else:

This car is already sold.  No, not to me :(

Lorne
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From: Eric Lotter <elotter@hotmail.com>
To: stealth-3000gt@list.sirius.com <stealth-3000gt@list.sirius.com>
Date: Tuesday, April 06, 1999 3:11 PM
Subject: Re: Team3S: Spyder-Best deal ever on one!


>I can't hold on to the lead much longer, as I can't afford it, but
>someone may.
>
>Norco Mitsu in CA had one listed a couple of weeks ago for 35,000 but
>will honor a 3000GT/Stealth International membership $700 over invioce
>special.
>
>The car is a 1995 vr-4 spyder, pearl white, all the options with less
>than 20k on the odo, (I want to say 16k)
>
>They will sell the car to one of us, (If they haven't already!) for
>30,999.
>
>The catch to it, the title is a lemon title because the original owner
>could no longer deal with intermittant roof problems. It has since been
>fixed.
>
>Email me directly for more info.
>
>Please note, I heard about this car 3 weeks ago and it may not be
>avaliable any more so no one should get their hopes up. I was being
>greedy and couldn't swing a value added deal for my vr-4 to get it.
>Sorry.
>
>Eric
>>From: "Bill" <compren@lightspeed.net>
>>Reply-To: stealth-3000gt@list.sirius.com
>>To: <stealth-3000gt@list.sirius.com>
>>Subject: Re: Team3S: Spyder
>>Date: Tue, 6 Apr 1999 11:29:38 -0700
>>
>>I have 30k miles but I have a 7year 100k warranty...
>>
>>Borla/K&N,HKS,downpipe, and high flow cat on a white VR-4 spyder...
>>
>>They were all made in 95 some are called 96's but they're all 95's...
>>
>>Had a remote put on the top so it can be raised and lowered from the
>>keyless...
>>
>>Tires have 5k miles on em...
>>
>>Asking $40k would probably take $37k but not really in any hurry to
>sell...
>>
>>-Bill
>>
>>(Las Vegas, NV)
>>
>>----- Original Message -----
>>From: Scott J Cowan <sjc0u812@juno.com>
>>To: <stealth-3000gt@list.sirius.com>
>>Sent: Tuesday, April 06, 1999 7:08 AM
>>Subject: Team3S: Spyder
>>
>>
>>> Hey all:
>>>
>>> A buddy of mine made the mistake of thinking he needed to go
>full-exec
>>> and sold his Spyder last year, buying a LS 400.  That's right, a
>>> Lexus.....  I did the same thing, and asked him that if in the future
>he
>>> was going to smoke that stuff, he should share with his friends.
>(Ahem)
>>> Anyway, what a surprise, his wife is now driving it and he wants
>another
>>> Spyder yesterday.  He's looking for a low mileage, black or white (no
>>> red), '95 or '96 (he mumbled something about "the last year," and
>because
>>> I have a VR4, I don't really know enough about the Spyder's, so
>forgive
>>> my ignorance).  So if anyone can help, please e-mail me privately,
>and
>>> I'll forward the info on to him.  Please keep in mind we live up here
>in
>>> sunny, warm, subtropical Milwaukee, so he'd probably prefer to find
>>> something closer than New Zealand (no offense, Kevin, Cheers!).
>>>
>>> Thanks, and best regards,
>>>
>>> Scott
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Date: Tue, 6 Apr 1999 18:22:24 -0700
From: "james berry" <fastmax@home.com>
Subject: Re: Team3S: Replacement Y-Pipe rubber seal

>> Yes.  I hear Crazy Glue has worked for somebody?
>> Arty 91 VR-4
>>>Yes, I put my rubber seal back onto the plastic with Super Glue.  First,
I cleaned it
>with like Windex or ?brake cleaner, some very low residue oil-remover;
>Glue, in proper position (so little "C" shape at end of rubber clamps
>over the edge of the plastic pipe nicely) and no problems since!



How much boost will it hold when glued?

Jim Berry

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Date: Wed, 7 Apr 1999 14:58:31 +1200
From: Kevin Clark <Kevin.Clark@hnz.co.nz>
Subject: RE: Team3S: Replacement Y-Pipe rubber seal

> Yes, I put my rubber seal back onto the plastic with Super
> Glue.

Your great Jack !

Not sure why I had not thought of it as I use my hot melt
glue gun alot around the car, but not in the engine bay
as it does not like the heat  :)

Cheers,
Kevin Clark
'91 GTO-VR4  <--  hehe, goin' out to buy some superglue
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Date: Tue, 06 Apr 1999 20:36:48 -0700
From: Errin Humphrey <errin@u.washington.edu>
Subject: Re: Team3S: Wheels/Tire Combo Question

"CEnder (Chris Chiasson)" wrote:

> Will Volk Challenge F-Zero wheels in 18"x9"J with BFG g-force T/A KD 18"
> 265mm wide tires fit on my 1991 Stealth TT?

Yes, if you get the wheels with an offset of +40mm
and the tires in a 35% profile.  I just put these on my
friend's '94 VR4.  Same wheels, but he used Bridge-
stone Potenza S0-2's in 265/35-18.

- --Errin Humphrey
Seattle, WA

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Date: Wed, 07 Apr 1999 00:43:49 -0400
From: Mark <pagan@siscom.net>
Subject: Team3S: tranny - saga

Greetings!

Some of you may remember my post for help about a obvious problem with my
tranny and/or transfer case.  I thought the problem was my clutch going
south ('93 RT TT) but after installing a RPS Turbo Clutch (Roger, that GP
was just a few weeks late :/ ) the problem persisted.  As it turns out, the
spline from the tranny to the transfer case was stripped.  Fortunately my
car is still under its extended warranty so I got a new tranny and transfer
case for $50.

I just picked it up this evening and as I began to drive it I noticed that
it seemed that the shift pattern was some how shifted to the right.  I
don't really know how else to describe it except to say that when in
neutral, if I take the shifter and pull it all the way to the left it is in
the middle of the shift boot.  If I put the car in 5th gear the shifter is
in the far right corner of the shift boot.  What gives?  Is there some way
to adjust this with the shift linkage?  Is it specific to the tranny that
the shop put in?  It is quite annoying and very difficult to find 3rd gear.

So.. apparently my saga is not quite over.  Any clues into this problem
would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks.

Mark
'93 RT TT
BTW - mod list:  K&N Air Charger, XBC, ATR Downpipe, Test Pipe, Custom 3"
Cat back, gutted pre cats, autometer gauges, momo shift knob, razo pedal
covers, white gauge faces ... blah .. :)
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Date: Wed, 07 Apr 1999 01:02:44 -0400
From: josesini <josesini@engin.umich.edu>
Subject: Re: Team3S: tranny - saga

Mark,

I believe they just installed the shifter backwards.  All you have to do
is remove the shift knob (by turning it counter clock wise) then remove
the leather boot (by pulling it upwards) then remove one nut (14 mm it's
on the driver's side) and the cotter pin at the very bottom of the
shifter.  Remove the shifter (be careful not to loose any bushings) then
rotate it 180 degrees and reinstall it. 
NOTE: this instructions are for the 5 speed trannys, I believe the same
goes for the 6 speed ones.

But if I were you, I would just take it back to the shop and have them
do it.  Hopefully that's all! 

Good luck,

Jose


Mark wrote:
>
> Greetings!
>
><SNIP>
> I just picked it up this evening and as I began to drive it I noticed that
> it seemed that the shift pattern was some how shifted to the right.  I
> don't really know how else to describe it except to say that when in
> neutral, if I take the shifter and pull it all the way to the left it is in
> the middle of the shift boot.  If I put the car in 5th gear the shifter is
> in the far right corner of the shift boot.  What gives?  Is there some way
> to adjust this with the shift linkage?  Is it specific to the tranny that
> the shop put in?  It is quite annoying and very difficult to find 3rd gear.
>
> So.. apparently my saga is not quite over.  Any clues into this problem
> would be greatly appreciated.
><SNIP>
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Date: Tue, 06 Apr 1999 22:49:42 -0800
From: Dan Jett <djett@corp.ultratech.com>
Subject: Re: Team3S: Wheels/Tire Combo Question -Reply

** High Priority **

What's the approx. dollar value for this wheel/tire combo?

Dan
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Date: Wed, 07 Apr 1999 18:29:25 -0500
From: xwing <xwing@execpc.com>
Subject: Re: Team3S: Replacement Y-Pipe rubber seal

james berry wrote:

> >>>I put my rubber seal back onto the plastic with Super Glue.  First,
> cleaned
> >with Windex or ?brake cleaner/low residue oil-remover;
> >Glue, in proper position (so little "C" shape at end of rubber clamps
> >over the edge of the plastic pipe nicely)  no problems since!
>
> How much boost will it hold when glued?
> Jim Berry
>

It holds 'bout  'leventy-hunnert pounds of boost!
I had Auxiliary Preloaded Retention Devices (APRD,  tm) (bungee cords :) pulling the
pipe toward/onto the throttlebody on my '93 at same time after that fix so can't say for
sure.  It sure seems very tight on there even without.  One improvement is to get
"T-bolt" clamps rather than the lower-duty "worm gear" clamps we now have.  T-bolts will
tighten better/hold more.  I did not have T-bolt clamps.

Jack Tertadian


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Date: Wed, 07 Apr 1999 06:55:13 PDT
From: "Chris S." <shadowphantom_1@hotmail.com>
Subject: Team3S: APEX Super AFC

I was just curious.  How does one tune in the Super AFC?  Is there a
good A/F gauge out there?  I just picked one up and would like to get
a few pointers before I install it in a few months.  Also would 560cc
injectors, fuel pump, and the AFC help with stock turbos?  Or would it
be best to install them with the 15G's?  I have the AFC & injectors
right now.

Thanks,
Chris

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Date: Wed, 07 Apr 1999 16:26:42 +0200
From: Roger Gerl <robby@swissonline.ch>
Subject: Re: Team3S: APEX Super AFC

> I was just curious.  How does one tune in the Super AFC?  Is there a
> good A/F gauge out there?

The question is if our O2 sensors are good enough for a proper tune in !
Unfortunately the stock O2 sensors are switchting within a very small hysteresis
and you finally do not know how much rich or how much lean you are. The best
thing would be to get a wide range O2 sensor and hoock it up to an A/F meter
(any is ok then) or just use a voltmeter.

> a few pointers before I install it in a few months.  Also would 560cc
> injectors, fuel pump, and the AFC help with stock turbos?

Yes, they do. Although your stock turbos will not hold boost up to the redline
the midrange torque and power is great.

> be best to install them with the 15G's?  I have the AFC & injectors
> right now.

Do this stepwise as the car needs the fuel to prevent detonation and to avoid
fuel cut. With this you should be able to crank up boost to the 18psi region or
even more when properly tuned in. Unfortunately the AFC is rpm-related and does
not look for any boost or load of the car. But for 560cc it should work fine for
your adjustments. Don't forget the fuel pump as it runs out of steam pretty soon
too !

Good luck,
Roger, Switzerland
93'3000GT TT
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Date: Wed, 7 Apr 1999 10:18:46 -0500
From: Scott J Cowan <sjc0u812@juno.com>
Subject: Team3S: CD Changer Question (probably a dumb one...)

Hello all:

I have an Alpine 5915Z six disc changer mounted in my trunk, with the
control unit un by the a/c and heat controls.  This is a FM frequency
unit, requiring me to tune to 88.3 for it's use.  Does anyone know if
this unit has the ability to become a "plug in" version, for example, so
I can plug it directly into the CD plug on the front of my radio?  The
unit sounds good now, but....

Any help would be most appreciated.  Please respond privately.

Thanks, and regards,

Scott
'92 VR4
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Date: Wed, 07 Apr 1999 20:09:55 +0200
From: Matthews <matthews@wiesbaden.netsurf.de>
Subject: Re: Team3S: Weight Stripping

Jason and Cristy Barnhart wrote:
>
>   Is noone else aware that Adam Weltz ran 12.32 (or very near), supposeldy with nothing
> more than intake, complete exhaust, and a boost controller.  Also Mike Mahaffey ran
> 12.12@112.5 with stock turbos.  I believe virtually nothing was done to cut weight in
> these cars.  It aint all that difficult guys.

I believe both of these times were with bigger turbos and/or fuel mods.


Matt Jannusch wrote:
>
> track in under 12 seconds.  Can you even get 350 HP out of the stock turbos,
> or do they run out of steam too early to hit that high of a peak?  I don't

Yes, the stock turbos are good for just over 400 SAE HP in a healthy
setup (ie- 1.00 bar limit - see my web page for dyno results) and 450+
SAE HP if boost is cranked up too high (ie- 1.3+ bar - see Roger's web
page for rebuild info).


> think the power is so much the issue, but finding 600 pounds of extra weight
> is going to be the tough part...  That's a lot of weight to be ripping out!
> I think you could find 200 pounds easy enough, maybe 300.
>
> A RWD VR4 I would love to see!  :-)

Why not just start with an LS-1 Camaro SS and go from there?  :-|

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K&N FIPK, A'PEXi Super AVC-R (1.0 bar @ 72% BADC)
A'PEXi Turbo Timer (30 sec), Blitz Blow-Off Valve
Magnecore spark plug wires, Redline ShockProof fluids
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Michelin Pilot XGT-Z4 245/45ZR17, Top Speed: 168mph
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