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Team3S Digest         Saturday, April 3 1999         Volume 01 : Number 142




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Date: Fri, 02 Apr 1999 12:28:50 -0800
From: wce@bc.sympatico.ca
Subject: Re: Team3S: Woes update -- the never ending saga and questions...

Hey Scott;

Major woes. I would look for another shop to do my work in the future. That, however,
does not solve the problems they have inflicted on you. I understand there are some
places that will deliberately do this sort of thing to have repeat buisness. I hope this
is not the case, and that you get the gremlins out. Still, consider going elsewhere. (
Is the system bled properly? Have you tried a speed bleeder and doing it yourself?)

Best

Darc



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Date: Fri, 2 Apr 1999 14:45:53 -0600
From: Scott J Cowan <sjc0u812@juno.com>
Subject: Re: Team3S: Woes update -- the never ending saga and questions...

Darc:

>Major woes. I would look for another shop to do my work in the future.

Unfortunately, there's only one other one here in town, and they're the
one's with the bad reputation.

>That, however,
>does not solve the problems they have inflicted on you. I understand
>there are some
>places that will deliberately do this sort of thing to have repeat
>buisness. I hope this
>is not the case, and that you get the gremlins out.

Me too.  I really have trusted the SM over there and he's been kind,
helpful and generous, so I'm going to look up under the dash tomorrow to
see if when the put everything back something might be crossing or
touching.  Dunno.  Well give it our best try.  Brett's coming down
tomorrow and after we upgrade an axe of mine down in Kenosha, we're
changing his plugs and wires and putting on an K&N FIPK on  his ES.
Should be fun.

Still, consider
>going elsewhere.

I guess I'm going to half too.  It's just a matter of where...
(
>Is the system bled properly?

No clue, but I would think so.  I told Dick, he's that older SM I was
telling you about, that after they put in the new booster to please check
and/or adjust the clutch afterwards, as it just has been a handful to
drive.  He said no problem, and that they did adjust it  a little, and
that they mechanic was very pleased with the results.

Over lunch, I know notice my a/c won't kick on either.  :-(

Have you tried a speed bleeder and doing
>it yourself?)

No on either, don't know what I'm doing when it comes to that.  Need to
learn more so I can do this stuff -- knowwhatImean?

Thanks and regards,

Scott


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Date: Fri, 02 Apr 1999 15:59:53 -0500
From: Gavin Wallis <WallisG@mwaa.com>
Subject: Team3S: Hydracharging

Anyone heard much about this? Supposed to be coming out in a month or
less. I read an article on them a couple of weeks ago in the latest Sports
Compact mag. It's sort of a fluid pushed turbo charger. No lag, meaning
low RPM boost. Extremely compact. Very effecient. Cheap. It's like the
best of super & turbo charging.

All that was said was needed for most applications was to move your
battery to the back of the car and the hydracharger could fit there. Plus
their would be room for a fake battery cover for stealth installs.

Could shave some serious time off the ole 1/4 for us turbos....

Gavin
'94 Black VR-4
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Date: Fri, 2 Apr 1999 15:03:57 -0600
From: Scott J Cowan <sjc0u812@juno.com>
Subject: Re: Team3S: Woes update -- the never ending saga and questions...

Sorry everyone, that one was meant for Darc alone.  Sorry to waste the
"bandwidth."

On Fri, 2 Apr 1999 14:45:53 -0600 Scott J Cowan <sjc0u812@juno.com>
writes:
>Darc:
>
>>Major woes. I would look for another shop to do my work in the
>future.
>
>Unfortunately, there's only one other one here in town, and they're
>the one's with the bad reputation.
>
>>That, however,
>>does not solve the problems they have inflicted on you. I understand
>
>>there are some
>>places that will deliberately do this sort of thing to have repeat
>>buisness. I hope this
>>is not the case, and that you get the gremlins out.
>
>Me too.  I really have trusted the SM over there and he's been kind,
>helpful and generous, so I'm going to look up under the dash tomorrow
>to see if when the put everything back something might be crossing or
>touching.  Dunno.  Well give it our best try.  Brett's coming down
>tomorrow and after we upgrade an axe of mine down in Kenosha, we're
>changing his plugs and wires and putting on an K&N FIPK on  his ES. 
>Should be fun.
>
>Still, consider
>>going elsewhere.
>
>I guess I'm going to half too.  It's just a matter of where...
>(
>>Is the system bled properly?
>
>No clue, but I would think so.  I told Dick, he's that older SM I was
>telling you about, that after they put in the new booster to please
>check and/or adjust the clutch afterwards, as it just has been a
>handful to drive.  He said no problem, and that they did adjust it  a
>little, and that they mechanic was very pleased with the results.
>
>Over lunch, I know notice my a/c won't kick on either.  :-(
>
>Have you tried a speed bleeder and doing
>>it yourself?)
>
>No on either, don't know what I'm doing when it comes to that.  Need
>to learn more so I can do this stuff -- knowwhatImean?
>
>Thanks and regards,
>
>Scott
>
>
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Date: Fri, 02 Apr 1999 17:22:00 -0600
From: Ken Taft <kentaft@cwix.com>
Subject: Team3S: rear bumper skirt

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Date: Fri, 2 Apr 1999 19:35:05 -0700
From: "james berry" <fastmax@home.com>
Subject: Re: Team3S: Fw: RPS Clutch / flywheel

>>No, RPS does not make a flywheel for our cars.  However, I have something
>>far superior to any other flywheel on the market.  The Mueller Billet
>>Aluminum Flywheel!  This thing is very light, weighing in at 13lbs (custom
>>11&12 lb units avail.)  Compared to the stock 25lb+ flywheel.  It is a one
>>piece design that is made by mueller fabricators in CA.  I can offer these
>>for the TT and the NT cars at $560TT and $550NT.  Prices may vary
depending
>>on the quantity.  Let me know.


his web page says if it's can be made of metal we can do it ---- anybody
talk to him about syncro rings.

   Jim berry

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Date: Sat, 3 Apr 1999 03:59:10 -0800 (PST)
From: Frank Chen <jeep1978@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: Team3S: Woes update -- the never ending saga and questions...

Scott,
  Remove one of the panels below the air dam and
manually lower the front air dam and then retract it
with button in car.  I am not sure if your rear AA
spoiler is working since you didn't specify whether
both or one was working only.

- --- Scott J Cowan <sjc0u812@juno.com> wrote:
> The active aero button now doesn't
> work as it should.
> Normally, all winter and in lousy weather, turn it
> off.  Now, to my
> surprise, at any speed when I simply turn it on (not
> toggle all the way
> to the left, the damn thing activates.......????
>
> So that's my story, and I'm sticking to it.  If
> anyone can help, or has
> better theory, do spill.
>
> Thanks, best regards, happy Easter weekend (let's be
> careful out there),
> etc.,
>
> Scott
> '92 VR4
>
>
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Date: Sat, 3 Apr 1999 08:05:02 EST
From: Dskull@aol.com
Subject: Team3S: Double Check Please

If someone out there with a 93 VR4 could check some wiring for me I would be
grateful. On the throttle position sensor wiring harness. Starting from the
top (closest to hood) I have
Green - with yellow strip
Red   
Yellow - with red strip
Black
In the manual it shows ;
Red
Green - with yellow strip
Black
Yellow - with red strip

HHmmmmm.  The reason I am asking is I snap 2 wires off and had to pull the
connector apart to repair. I am not 100 % sure I put it back together right.
I think perhaps the manual may be in error (oh my god)

Thanks ,   David 93 VR4
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Date: Sat, 03 Apr 1999 16:58:27 +0200
From: Matthews <matthews@wiesbaden.netsurf.de>
Subject: Re: Team3S: Woes update -- the never ending saga and questions...

Scott J Cowan wrote:
>
> 2.)     The climate control system seems to have a mind of it's own now.
> Literally.  I typically never have it set on auto, always outside air,
> and no a/c, I want the hp.  Normally, I set the mode depending if I want
> heat or cool air, i.e., to the feet or torso.  Get this, I get in and
> start the car, I watch the display, the air for a brief period of time
> comes out on the glass, then it moves -- by itself -- to the torso and
> feet, the past two days, a red at the feet, blue at the torso.  I've
> owned the car going on two years now, I've never see it do this before.

I think this is normal.  At least it's what mine does and I love it!
When the engine is cold, it blows the cold air at the windshield instead
of at me (red defrost).  Then, when the engine warms up, it sends warm
air to my feet (red feet).  Finally, when the interior is at the
specified temperature, it will continue blowing warm air at my feet as
well as some cool, fresh air out the dash (red feet, blue torso).  I can
also get it to blow warm air on my feet and out the dash (red feet, red
torse) when it's really cold out.  Note that the fan is also
automatically adjusted the entire time as well.

I, too, avoid using the A/C but like to leave it in the automatic mode.
To do this I simply press Auto followed by Econ twice.  My understanding
is that when you press Auto, it is in fully automatic mode and the A/C
is used at all times.  Pressing Econ will leave it in auto mode (though
the auto indicator will go out) and the A/C will only be used when
needed.  Pressing Econ the second time still leaves it in auto mode but
the A/C is disabled.  Pressing Mode or the fan speed buttons takes it
OUT of auto mode.  Someone will correct me if I'm wrong, but this is how
mine seems to work.  I think it's great!  Now if only I could figure out
how to install one in my other vehicles...

- --
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K&N FIPK, A'PEXi Super AVC-R (1.0 bar @ 72% BADC)
A'PEXi Turbo Timer (30 sec), Blitz Blow-Off Valve
Magnecore spark plug wires, Redline ShockProof fluids
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Date: Sat, 3 Apr 1999 07:34:23 -0700
From: "james berry" <fastmax@home.com>
Subject: Re: Team3S: Double Check Please

>If someone out there with a 93 VR4 could check some wiring for me I would
be
>grateful. On the throttle position sensor wiring harness. Starting from the
>top (closest to hood) I have
>Green - with yellow strip
>Red
>Yellow - with red strip
>Black
>In the manual it shows ;
>Red
>Green - with yellow strip
>Black
>Yellow - with red strip


Iv'e got a 93 Dodge TT ---- car and manual both agree ----

green/yellow
brown/red
yellow/red
black

in the manual page 8-86 the numbering on the throttle
position sensor is shown as 1-2-4-3  not 1-2-3-4.
Which almost agrees with your second list.

Jim Berry                    ------93     "arrest me red" Stealth  TT -----
                   SSBC @  1.0 BAR, K&N FIPK, Magnecore wire, NGK @ .034
                             G--Tech    0 --60  4.9 sec.    1/4  13.3 @ 110
                                               [ suspension mods next ]

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Date: Sat, 03 Apr 1999 18:53:05 +0200
From: "R.G." <robby@swissonline.ch>
Subject: Re: Team3S: Woes update -- the never ending saga and questions...

> > 2.)     The climate control system seems to have a mind of it's own now.

<snip>

> I think this is normal.  At least it's what mine does and I love it!
> When the engine is cold, it blows the cold air at the windshield instead
> of at me (red defrost).  Then, when the engine warms up, it sends warm
> air to my feet (red feet).

Yep, my 3000GT does this too. To be a little bit more specific, when the engine
heats up the direction changes to the last choosen setting.

> Pressing Mode or the fan speed buttons takes it OUT of auto mode.
> Someone will correct me if I'm wrong, but this is how
> mine seems to work.  I think it's great!

Yep, this is how it works and I like it too :)

I just wish the fan would blow somewhat slower as the lowest step is already too
much (for me).

file://Roger

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Date: Sat, 03 Apr 1999 19:00:40 +0200
From: "R.G." <robby@swissonline.ch>
Subject: Re: Team3S: Double Check Please

> Green - with yellow strip
> Red
> Yellow - with red strip
> Black

> In the manual it shows ;

> Red
> Green - with yellow strip
> Black
> Yellow - with red strip

The Backup CD manual shows :

1: G-Y (Green-Yellow)
2: BR-R (BR?-Red)
3: Y-R (Yellow-Red)
4: B (Black)

Just make sure you read the manual right and watch the numbers.

Hope this helps,
Roger

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Date: Sat, 03 Apr 1999 14:08:04 -0500
From: Ron Thompson <rtetetet@earthlink.net>
Subject: Team3S: Trany leak

I noticed a spot on the garage floor yesterday. Rolled the car up on
the ramps and looked under the car. The trans had a light film of oil
on it near where the right front axle comes out but on the bottom of
the trans. Thick oil like gear oil, not much quantity, but it had
mixed with under coat over spray. I couldn't see where the oil was
coming from but if had blown back onto the transfer case towards the
tail shaft. Most of the oil was on the bottom of the transmission case
towards the passenger side of the bell housing.

Where do I check for possible sources of the leak? I cleaned the areas
where it had collected hoping to find the source easier if the area
was clean to start with. I had problem with my Eclipse leaking from a
breather near the clutch actuator but I can't see up that far at this
point.

Also, this is a 96 VR4 with only 4600 miles, and the manual
illustration isn't clear on indicating which is the drain and filler
plugs for the trany. For the drain, it seems to be located on the
passenger side of the case  with an access hole in a plastic splash
panel. The filler seems to be on the front of the trany about 2 - 3"
up from the pan. But it has an odd shape like it's a cap for an
internal part. Both caps have a yellow inspection paint stripe on
them. The transfer case caps are both painted red.

What am I into here guys? New transmission time? I've got till the end
of the year on the 3 year / 30,000 mile warranty.

Ron
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Date: Sat, 3 Apr 1999 13:27:10 -0600
From: "Jeff" <jw461@nstar.net>
Subject: Team3S: EASESIM Datalogger

Has anyone had a chance to use this datalogger?  I'm interested in buying
one, but I'd like to know a little more about it too.  How many samples per
second can it take?  Can you sample 3 or 4 items and still have the data be
useful?  Meaning, what does the sample rate per item fall to?

Any comparisons with any other dataloggers for OBDII cars are welcome (like
OBDTool.)  I don't really care about dataloggers for the earlier cars (like
TMO's http://www.tmo.com) because I can't use them:)

For anyone not familiar with EASESIM, their website is
http://www.easesim.com.

jeff
'95 Mitsubishi Spyder VR-4
'90 Mitsubishi Eclipse GSX


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Date: Sat, 3 Apr 1999 20:54:24 -0600
From: "Paul T. Golley" <ptgolley@ro.com>
Subject: Re: Team3S: EASESIM Datalogger

>Any comparisons with any other dataloggers for OBDII cars are welcome (like
>OBDTool.)  I don't really care about dataloggers for the earlier cars (like
>TMO's http://www.tmo.com) because I can't use them:)


How do I know if I have OBD II or not?  I have a '95 VR-4.
Regards, ptg

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