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Team3S Digest
Thursday, April 1 1999 Volume 01
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140
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Date:
Wed, 31 Mar 1999 11:48:14 -0600
From: Merritt <merritt@cedar-rapids.net>
Subject:
Re: Team3S: Tranny Question -Reply
At 11:54 AM 3/31/99 -0500, you
wrote:
>How long of a warranty are you getting when you have these
new
>tranny's installed? I plan to getting mine replace soon under my
extended
>warranty...(poor shifting, noisy, erratic
behavior).
>
Mine was done at the Mitsu dealer. They warrant it for a
year.
My extended warranty still covers it to 96,000 (30,000 from
now)
Rich/old poop
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Date:
Wed, 31 Mar 1999 12:21:58 -0600
From: "Omar Malik" <ojm@iname.com>
Subject: RE: Team3S: Speed
Bleeder Size Info
You guys are reffering to the twin turbo models i
hope
My 92 NT is 10mm all the way around.
Omar
> Better
make that Jan 92 - May 93. Mine is a Jan 92 and has the 7mm
>
rears.
>
> Later,
>
> Jose
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Date:
Wed, 31 Mar 1999 14:01:19 -0500
From: Gavin Wallis <wallisg@mwaa.com>
Subject: Team3S:
Erebuni Update
Well I just got off the phone with Erebuni's prez. The
good news is that
they successfully made the mold for my 94 2nd gen. AND with
a little
pushing & work, I got them to make the mold capable of retaining
the front
active aero.
The only thing that wasn't perfect was fitting
the new front around the
intercoolers. They had to bend the lower outside
corners of each
intercooler a little. This bend really won't make any
difference in
performance or reliability. The intercoolers are already fed
more air from
the massive ducts of the new front, (BTW- talk about
opportunity galore
for "ram air-ing" the engine and brakes).
Incidentally Erebuni has been great to work with, very professional.
Even
offered to paint the new piece since they were going to take 2-3
days
longer to finish the mold. (told them no cuz I'm painting the whole
car
when it gets back).
All in all, woo hoo.
Gavin
'94 Black
VR-4 w/new front
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Date:
Tue, 30 Mar 1999 12:10:00 -0700
From: "Barry E. King" <beking@home.com>
Subject: Team3S: Items
for sale
I have some items for sale which perhaps someone will find
useful. I will
consider offers on this stuff. Buyer pays shipping
+ insurance from
Phoenix, AZ. Prefer prepaid by money order, but will
consider COD. Can
provide digital imagines to serious
enquirers.
Stock exhaust system from a 1994 Mistubishi 3000GT VR4.
Offers
Decent condition. Active exhaust bits not included.
Downpipe also
availble. Does NOT include catalytic converter.
This will be a pain to
package for shipment and freight charges will likely
be expensive. Prefer
pickup in Phoenix, AZ.
Set of 6 stock
injectors from a 1994 3000GT VR4. Offers
Removed from car in working
condition at 47,000 miles. 365 cc/min.
New, never installed or used
Apex'i Turbo Timer. $100
Comes with with original box and manual. Also
have the wiring harness.
Bought it a year ago or less, likely won't get
installed so it may as well
go.
Stock turbos from a '94 VR4.
TD04L-9B 6 cm^2. $350.00 OBO (pending)
Removed in working condition at
47,000 miles.
Regards,
Barry
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Date:
Wed, 31 Mar 1999 11:49:06 -0800
From: wce@bc.sympatico.ca
Subject: Re:
Team3S: Speed Bleeder Size Info
Omar, you wrote ;
> You guys
are reffering to the twin turbo models I hope
> My 92 NT is 10mm all the
way around.
snip
Yours had to be produced before the dates
quoted Omar, hence 10 mm all round, as it is
my 92 TT.
>
snip
>
> > Better make that Jan 92 - May 93. Mine is a Jan
92 and has the 7mm
> > rears.
>
>
Best
Darc
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Date:
Wed, 31 Mar 1999 15:23:53 -0600
From: Wayne <wala@hypertech-inc.com>
Subject:
Team3S: Torque Wrench
Anybody out there have a 1/4" drive, in-lb, dial
type torque wrench they
would be willing to lend to a fellow Mitsu mechanic?
(You know, the one
used to adjust the timing belt tension)
Also,
speaking of timing belts, The book tells you to put a pin through
the
tensioner's shaft, apply 7ft-lbs of torque to the tensioner pully,
tighten
up the pulley's lock bolt, then remove the pin. Maybe i'm missing
something
here, but 7ft-lbs is not going to be nearly enough pressure to
press the
piston in enough to remove the pin. It took quite a bit of 'muscle'
using a
vise to press the piston in. Is there a trick to performing this
operation?
Thanks for any help you can provide....
Wayne
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Date:
Wed, 31 Mar 1999 14:10:44 -0800
From: Rich <rleroy@pacifier.com>
Subject: Re:
Team3S: Torque Wrench
Wayne:
As I recall from doing mine, the
tensioner pin is in place
in the tensioner, then torque is applied using the
special
tool on the pulley in the direction against the
held-in-place pin,
then the bolt is torqued holding the
pulley. After the recommended
turning of the pulleys by
hand (# of turns one way, # of turns another, if I
remember
correctly), to make sure everything is correct, the pin may
be
removed from the tensioner. Trust me, the pin will come
out easily
enough.
On a related note, are you replacing the tensioner and
water
pump while you've got the chance? After all the
monkey-motion
it takes to get there, another $125 for a
couple parts might save future
costs.
Rich
Wayne wrote:
<snip>
>
Also, speaking of timing belts, The book tells you to put a pin through
the
> tensioner's shaft, apply 7ft-lbs of torque to the tensioner pully,
tighten
> up the pulley's lock bolt, then remove the pin. Maybe i'm
missing something
> here, but 7ft-lbs is not going to be nearly enough
pressure to press the
> piston in enough to remove the pin. It took quite
a bit of 'muscle' using a
> vise to press the piston in. Is there a trick
to performing this operation?
> Thanks for any help you can
provide....
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Date:
Wed, 31 Mar 1999 16:53:20 -0600
From: Wayne <wala@hypertech-inc.com>
Subject:
Re: Team3S: Torque Wrench
Rich,
I thought about that too, but the
water pump was replaced at about 50k
miles, and the tensioner took so much
force on the vise to compress, i
figured it must be in pretty good shape
also.
Did you torque the belt to 7ft-lbs, or did you just hold it "tight"
with a
ratchet? The reason i ask is this; I borrowed the "special tool" from
an
aquaintence at the dealer. The pins are bent in such a way that
suggests
over torqing. I'm thinking maybe he torques it down pretty tight
because
the last time he did 7ft-lbs, the car came back with a bad engine.
What did
you torque yours to, and how long has it been "holding
on"?
Wayne
At 02:10 PM 3/31/99 -0800, you
wrote:
>Wayne:
>
>On a related note, are you replacing the
tensioner and water
>pump while you've got the chance? After all
the
>monkey-motion it takes to get there, another $125 for a
>couple
parts might save future costs.
>
>Rich
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Date:
Wed, 31 Mar 1999 18:01:09 -0500
From: "Andy Carberry" <acarberry@snet.net>
Subject: Re:
Team3S: Tranny Question -Reply
This is great since I'm about to install a
6 speed in my 93 VR4 due to a
damaged transmission and transaxle. I
though the 6 speeds didn't have the
problems that the older 5 speeds
did. Well I hope I don't run in to
anything like this once I get mine
installed.
After checking on my car I found out that the transmission had
been replaced
a few years back under warranty. I since then found out
that the warranty
on the newly installed transmission was only for one
year. Oh well thought
there might have been a chance
there.
Andy
93 VR4
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Date:
Wed, 31 Mar 1999 15:03:07 -0800
From: Rich <rleroy@pacifier.com>
Subject: Re:
Team3S: Torque Wrench
Wayne:
My tensioner also took quite a bit to
compress (the trick is
to go slooooowly), but I replaced it anyway. For
the $27 or
so, it was cheap insurance.
The torque I used for
everything was dead-nuts from the
book. I don't remember the exact
values, but whatever it
called for I used - 7 ft-lbs sounds right. I
didn't bend
the pins on the little tool though, that's for sure.
It
sounds like somebody got a little heavy-handed there.
I did my 60k
shortly after it rolled 60k on the odo (maybe
63k?), and I'm better than 75k
now (it's a daily driver &
grocery-getter). Knock wood, I haven't
had any problems
from anything done at the 60k other than a squeaky A/C
belt
when I turned the unit on. It took several adjustments on
the
idler to get the tension right on that.
Hope this
helped.
Rich
Wayne wrote:
>
> Rich,
> I thought
about that too, but the water pump was replaced at about 50k
> miles, and
the tensioner took so much force on the vise to compress, i
> figured it
must be in pretty good shape also.
>
> Did you torque the belt to
7ft-lbs, or did you just hold it "tight" with a
> ratchet? The reason i
ask is this; I borrowed the "special tool" from an
> aquaintence at the
dealer. The pins are bent in such a way that suggests
> over torqing. I'm
thinking maybe he torques it down pretty tight because
> the last time he
did 7ft-lbs, the car came back with a bad engine. What did
> you torque
yours to, and how long has it been "holding on"?
<snip>
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Date:
Wed, 31 Mar 1999 17:23:51 -0600
From: Wayne <wala@hypertech-inc.com>
Subject:
Re: Team3S: Torque Wrench
$27????? I'm picking up the phone right now!!!!
I figured they were at
least $100......
At 03:03 PM 3/31/99 -0800, you
wrote:
>Wayne:
>
>For the $27 or
>so, it was cheap
insurance.
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Date:
Wed, 31 Mar 1999 22:24:53 -0500
From: Brian Danley <bcdmad@concentric.net>
Subject:
Team3S: RE: New Tranny Question
Ok here is some more
info....http://www.concentric.net/~Bcdmad/tranny1.jpg
It's the part
with the line under it.
On the 5 speed vr-4 tranny there a plug I'm
having a problem with. On the
side of the tranny with the drain plug
(the side that faces the passenger
side wheel) there is a plug. It
looks like a mushroom with a flat top.
It's above the drain plug about
8-10 inches and forward about 3-4 inches.
From the side profile
the plug looks like a "T" with the plug part
being on top and a shaft
coming out if it. It plugs a hole about 2 1/2
inches in
diameter. It tried to push the shaft into the tranny but there
was no
slot in the hole for it to slide into. I know this is where it goes
but it seems to have a Allen head bolt where the shaft should go into the
tranny. Can anyone help me with this. The manuals don't show
this side of
the tranny and thus are no
help.
Thanks,
Brian
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Date:
Wed, 31 Mar 1999 20:47:34 -0700
From: "james berry" <fastmax@home.com>
Subject: Re: Team3S:
RE: New Tranny Question
>Ok here is some more
info....http://www.concentric.net/~Bcdmad/tranny1.jpg
> It's the part with
the line under it.
>
>
>On the 5 speed vr-4 tranny there a
plug I'm having a problem with. On the
>side of the tranny with the
drain plug (the side that faces the passenger
>side wheel) there is a
plug. It looks like a mushroom with a flat top.
not much help
for you, but, a month or so ago there was a post
about a trans repair and a
comment about this plug being
removed to access the bolt for disassembly of
the trans.
.
.
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Date:
Thu, 01 Apr 1999 04:45:02 -0600
From: Ken Taft <kentaft@cwix.com>
Subject: Team3S: Rear
Bumper Skirt
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Date:
Thu, 1 Apr 1999 08:17:10 -0600
From: "Wendlandt, Mark (MN51)" <MWendlan@cfsmo.honeywell.com>
Subject:
RE: Team3S: Torque Wrench
With our discount from Tall. Mitsu (15% + 5% if
we pay the $8 shipping...15%
and they pay shipping)
Tensioner =
$62.62
Water Pump = $78.54
Mark
'91RT/TT
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Message-----
From: Wayne [mailto:wala@hypertech-inc.com]
Sent:
Wednesday, March 31, 1999 5:24 PM
To: stealth-3000gt@list.sirius.com
Subject:
Re: Team3S: Torque Wrench
$27????? I'm picking up the phone right
now!!!! I figured they were at
least $100......
At 03:03 PM 3/31/99
-0800, you wrote:
>Wayne:
>
>For the $27 or
>so, it was
cheap insurance.
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Date:
Thu, 01 Apr 1999 10:34:50 -0500
From: Gavin Wallis <WallisG@mwaa.com>
Subject: Team3S: Rear
Bumper Skirt -Reply
Goto www.spoilers.com.
This is Erebuni,
(see my message from yesterday about them). You can
buy a rear skirt that
will give you dual exhaust holes and in my opinion, a
better looking rear.
Cost is ~300.
Gavin
'94 Black VR-4 w/new Erebuni
front
>>> Ken Taft <kentaft@cwix.com> 04/01/99 05:45am
>>>
I would like to put dual exhaust, either a bolt on or have a
custom made
for my 1992 stealth R/T NT but my bumper skirt has only the oem
exhaust
cutout in it. Is their a place where i can buy one to match my color
or
what is a person to do run duals back as far as you can and then
put
them together before the bumper. Please need help!
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Date:
Thu, 1 Apr 1999 10:22:21 -0600
From: "Wendlandt, Mark (MN51)" <MWendlan@cfsmo.honeywell.com>
Subject:
Team3S: New hood insulation-received and installed
FYI,
I received
my new hood insulation yesterday from Tall. Mitsu. It came in a
very
large box.
I received it undamaged and it is molded to fit my hood
exactly.
The cost was $35+$8 shipping
I bought the one for the '91
VR4 and it fits my '91 RT/TT perfectly
Mark Wendlandt
'91RT/TT
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Date:
Thu, 1 Apr 1999 10:59:22 -0600
From: "Wendlandt, Mark (MN51)" <MWendlan@cfsmo.honeywell.com>
Subject:
Team3S: K&N Aircharger instead of K&N FIPK
A while ago, there was
a discussion about using an Aircharger from a '95-'98
Eclipse on our Stealths
and VR4s. Well...I bought the Aircharger for
80bucks and installed it.
The Aircharger is much larger than the FIPK and I
had to modify the
bracket(drilled one hole) to mount the filter firmly to
the fender well so it
didn't move. It took me about 1/2hr to install.
Things to
consider....
-This is much larger than the FIPK(It appears to be longer,
not
thicker and therefore there is not a hood clearence problem).
Because it is
larger, I would guess that I flows better(I have not measured
this).
-I was not able to install my Blitz DSBC solenoid in the place
that
is common(R.G. and John Adams location), because the filter extends
into
that area. I had to mount it under the Relay/Fuse box near the
filter.
There is a cover under the box that unsnaps. I drilled two
holes in this
cover and bolted the solenoid to it(works great! and is hidden
from view).
-This filter is not C.A.R.B approved. I don't think
that this
matters unless you live in Calif.(you may want to check
this)
-Cost $80 for the Aircharger, $145 for the FIPK
-The kit
does not come with cleaner or oil($8), but does come ready
to
use(pre-oiled).
I think that this is a great alternative to the more
expensive FIPK.
Mark Wendlandt
'91RT/TT
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Date:
Thu, 01 Apr 1999 12:27:34 -0500
From: Gavin Wallis <WallisG@mwaa.com>
Subject: Team3S:
Turbo upgrade question
If I were to put 15g's in my car now...without
making the necessary fuel
management mods and boost mods, would I necessarily
be hurting
anything?
I assume that the 15g's will simply hold stock
12.5psi boost to the redline
and I will not be in any danger of running
lean.
So...any benefits? any dangers?
Thanks,
Gavin
'94
Black VR-4
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Date:
Thu, 1 Apr 1999 10:51:08 -0700
From: "Jeffrey Young" <jefyoung@ix.netcom.com>
Subject:
Team3S: Erebuni ground effects kit
Has anybody installed the Erebuni
ground effects kit on a 1st gen (part #
366)? I was wondering how well
it fit and if any major/minor modifications
were necessary to either the body
or the kit were necessary.
Thanks
Jeffrey
92 RT/Turbo
www.omega-sw.com/stealth
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Date:
Thu, 01 Apr 1999 13:29:53 -0500
From: Gavin Wallis <WallisG@mwaa.com>
Subject: Team3S:
Erebuni ground effects kit -Reply
It will fit very well if you have
someone who knows fiberglass. They are
quality kits though...i've recently
seen a bunch.
Gavin
>>> "Jeffrey Young" <jefyoung@ix.netcom.com> 04/01/99
12:51pm >>>
Has anybody installed the Erebuni ground effects kit on
a 1st gen (part #
366)? I was wondering how well it fit and if any
major/minor
modifications
were necessary to either the body or the kit
were necessary.
Thanks
Jeffrey
92 RT/Turbo
www.omega-sw.com/stealth
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