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Team3S Digest          Monday, March 29 1999          Volume 01 : Number 137




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Date: Sun, 28 Mar 1999 06:34:46 -0600
From: "Bill Davis" <wjdavis@inlink.com>
Subject: Team3S: Plug gap?

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I went and got my new plugs yesterday, and am going to put them in =
today.
It seems to me that someone recommended a gap, other than stock, =
039-.043 in.

My car is stock, with only K&N FIPK.

By the way got the set of plugs, plenum gasket, EGR gasket, fuel filter, =
and 4 copper
washers for it for $99.28, that's with tax, so parts were around $93.00.

It seem to remember that was Roger Gerl, but I can't find the message.

Any input would be much appreciated.

Bill Davis 95 VR-4


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Date: Sun, 28 Mar 1999 06:55:41 -0700
From: "Palamara, Peter" <pala@gwl.com>
Subject: RE: Team3S: Thermostat

Hey Jeff:
I put in a 165 degree thermo. No difference that I noticed but a or may be
some but not noticeable but I do know that the car heats up real fast now as
far as the heater goes. Pep boys can special order it for you. I think it
was $12 or something. Cya
 

92 3000 GTO MMC
500 H.P. of Fun
Plates (HIPRESR)
(303) 689-4733

 

- -----Original Message-----
From: jefyoung [ mailto:jefyoung@ix.netcom.com
<mailto:jefyoung@ix.netcom.com> ]
Sent: Saturday, March 27, 1999 8:43 PM
To: Team 3S
Subject: Team3S: Thermostat


As I am putting the engine back together after the past winters'
modifications, I have come to the thermostat. ...Now I remember when working
on Detroit iron that a colder thermostat or no thermostat at all, would
always be installed.  Has anybody installed a cooler thermostat on their
VR4/TT?  What temp did you use, and did you feel any difference?
 
Thanks
 
Jeffrey
92 Dodge RT/Turbo
www.omega-sw.com/stealth <http://www.omega-sw.com/stealth>
 

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Date: Sun, 28 Mar 1999 08:53:47 -0500
From: William Lynn Larsen <wlarsen@ibm.net>
Subject: Re: Team3S: Thermostat

Whatever you don't go with no thermostat, even with "Detroit Iron", as
the end result is that the coolant passes through the block so fast that
it doesn't have time to pick up enough heat to cool the engine
properly.  Even when no thermostat is used, a restrictor needs to be put
in its place to slow the flow.

Regards,
Lynn

> jefyoung wrote:
>
> As I am putting the engine back together after the past winters'
> modifications, I have come to the thermostat. ...Now I remember when
> working on Detroit iron that a colder thermostat or no thermostat at
> all, would always be installed.  Has anybody installed a cooler
> thermostat on their VR4/TT?  What temp did you use, and did you feel
> any difference?
>
> Thanks
>
> Jeffrey
> 92 Dodge RT/Turbo
> www.omega-sw.com/stealth
>
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Date: Sun, 28 Mar 1999 15:15:35 +0000
From: "R.G." <robby@swissonline.ch>
Subject: Re: Team3S: Plug gap?

> I went and got my new plugs yesterday, and am going to put them in today.
> It seems to me that someone recommended a gap, other than stock, 039-.043 in.

As you haven't increased boost the stock gap is ok. But when you ever plan to
increase boost up to 15psi then gap them to 0.034" or lesswith more mods.

> By the way got the set of plugs, plenum gasket, EGR gasket, fuel filter, and
> 4 copper washers for it for $99.28, that's with tax, so parts were around
> $93.00.

Seems to be an appropriate price.

Regards,
Roger

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Roger Gerl, Switzerland
93'3000GT TwinTurbo (Animale Rosso)
K&N FIPK,Magnecor wires,Blitz DSBC/gauge/Dual Timer,Apexi AFC,HKS SBOV,
ATR DP/ tespipe,Borla Cat-back,OZ Mito2 rims,Yoko AVS-Z1,braided brake lines,
Bremsa brakes,Pagid RS-R pads

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Date: Sun, 28 Mar 1999 08:48:57 -0600
From: Ken Taft <kentaft@cwix.com>
Subject: [none]

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Date: Sun, 28 Mar 1999 07:19:35 -0800
From: Chris Winkley <cwinkley@plaza.ds.adp.com>
Subject: RE: Team3S: Plug gap?

- -----Original Message-----
From: Bill Davis [mailto:wjdavis@inlink.com]
Sent: Sunday, March 28, 1999 4:35 AM
To: stealth-3000gt@list.sirius.com
Subject: Team3S: Plug gap?


I went and got my new plugs yesterday, and am going to put them in today.
It seems to me that someone recommended a gap, other than stock, 039-.043
in.
<snip>
Any input would be much appreciated.

Bill Davis 95 VR-4
==========================
Bill...

If you plan on adding a boost controller (or other significant mods), drop
them down to .034"

Looking forward...Chris

1995 Glacier Pearl White VR4 (w/HKS Super Flo intake, HKS SBOV, Predator dry
cell battery, bored and polished throttle body, Magnecore 8.5mm wires, HKS
double platinum plugs gapped at .034", GReddy PRofec A boost controller,
GReddy turbo timer, ATR downpipe and test pipe, GReddy catback exhaust,
Eibach 1" drop progressive springs)


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Date: Sun, 28 Mar 1999 19:49:14 +0200
From: "R.G." <robby@swissonline.ch>
Subject: Team3S: Re:

Probably 2 months

> Ken Taft wrote:
>
> how long does it take!

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Roger Gerl, Switzerland
93'3000GT TwinTurbo (Animale Rosso)
K&N FIPK,Magnecor wires,Blitz DSBC/gauge/Dual Timer,Apexi AFC,HKS SBOV,
ATR DP/ tespipe,Borla Cat-back,OZ Mito2 rims,Yoko AVS-Z1,braided brake lines,
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Date: Sun, 28 Mar 1999 14:29:18 EST
From: PFloyd91@aol.com
Subject: Team3S: First Mod and Missing Link

I'm considering my first mod, that being the replacement of
the stock air filter with a K&N FIPK. There was a posting on
the starnet list a while back, stating that a Blitz Core type
filter and a HKS VPC would be a better choice than the K&N.
Opinions please?????

Because of a variety of nonessential interests and hobbies, my
budget for major car mods is on the slim side. Having a black car,
I have considered having it professionally touched up, buffed out
and a new clear coat applied. The car's finish was properly taken
care of by the previous owner, but there are the usual chips out
of the paint, minor scratches, etc.

The costs for each of these options is about the same
($150.00).

So, I'm trying to figure out if I should just touch up the paint
and give it a good wax job myself and install the K&N, or put
off the K&N and have the finish worked on professionally.
(Why is it, that a simple decision such as this becomes a major
dilemma when one tosses in their "car of a lifetime"?)

BTW --- we switched computers about a month ago and all
of my bookmarked pages went off into cyberspace. I've been
searching all of the links looking for the site of the guy who is
a professional detailer and I can't find it. I thought I remembered
it either being on, or linked to Gregg Couture's site -- but no luck.  

I just started building my own site -- it's pretty weak right now,
but at least it has some pix of the car.

Any and all answers and flames will be appreciated.

John Hitzeman
<A HREF="http://www.geocities.com/CapeCanaveral/Campus/5117/">3000GT-95 's
Home Page</A>
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Date: Sun, 28 Mar 1999 12:26:54 -0800 (PST)
From: dustin poos <vr4_3000gt@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: Team3S: RPS clutch Group Purchase ! Day 1

Hey I would like to be a part of this group purchase, what are my
choices exactly, my clutch went out in my SL and I need a new one soon,
I assume the kit comes with the disc, pressure plate and throw out
bearing, right? How much? how much better than a stock clutch?

     Thanks, Dustin


- --- "R.G." <robby@swissonline.ch> wrote:
> Friends,
>
> I've a ctivated the Team3S Group Purchase Information
> Page. You'll find the
> first GP there and hopefully some more in the future
> :)
>
> http://www.geocities.com/MotorCity/Speedway/9589/group_purchase.html
>
> The GP on the RPS clutches for our cars (N/T and
> Turbo) is ACTIVE and will stay
> open till the end of the week. This time limit is due
> to the long wait for up to
> two months for the clutches until they are made and
> shipped and some of us just
> can't wait for them.
>
> So jump to the page and write me a message to join
> the GP. The more we'll get
> together the better the price will be !
>
> Thanks,
> Roger
>
> -----------------------
> Roger Gerl, Switzerland
> 93'3000GT TwinTurbo (Animale Rosso)
> K&N FIPK,Magnecor wires,Blitz DSBC/gauge/Dual
> Timer,Apexi AFC,HKS SBOV,
> ATR DP/ tespipe,Borla Cat-back,OZ Mito2 rims,Yoko
> AVS-Z1,braided brake lines,
> Bremsa brakes,Pagid RS-R pads
>
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> http://www.geocities.com/MotorCity/Speedway/9589/3000gt.html
>
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Date: Sun, 28 Mar 1999 14:52:46 -0600
From: "Omar Malik" <ojm@iname.com>
Subject: Team3S: Alarm Install

To those who have done an alarm install themselves on a 92 3S. How did you
overcome the factory alarm? is there a central unit that can just be
unplugged? Or is the alarm part of the etacs/ECU units. after looking at my
manual, i see no reference to any alarm unit behind the drivers side rear
speaker. all of the alarm system wiring diagrams tie into either the ECU or
the ETACS unit. I have yet to open the car up. I'd like to have a wiring
scheme planned before i start. Any help would be appreciated. thank you.

Omar
92 r/t


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Date: Sun, 28 Mar 1999 23:05:21 +0200
From: "R.G." <robby@swissonline.ch>
Subject: Re: Team3S: First Mod and Missing Link

> the stock air filter with a K&N FIPK. There was a posting on
> the starnet list a while back, stating that a Blitz Core type
> filter and a HKS VPC would be a better choice than the K&N.
> Opinions please?????

If you install a VPC then a VPC-adapter must be choosen as well. There is no
Blitz adapter avaible and must be custom done or it comes with a non-Blitz kit.
But you must also know that if you buy something like that the stock  MAS cannot
be used and a VPC must be used instead !

> Because of a variety of nonessential interests and hobbies, my
> budget for major car mods is on the slim side.

Then you'll not install a VPC ($850) and other fuel mods needed for it (mucho
$$).

> So, I'm trying to figure out if I should just touch up the paint
> and give it a good wax job myself and install the K&N, or put
> off the K&N and have the finish worked on professionally.

Get the K&N (it helps and even more on a NA) and do the wax job with Zaino
polish. It did a great job when I got back my car with the new paint. Here's the
link : http://www.zainobros.com/ Tell Sal Zaino that Roger from Switzerland sent
you :)

> Any and all answers and flames will be appreciated.

No, not on this list !

Regards,
Roger

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93'3000GT TwinTurbo (Animale Rosso)
K&N FIPK,Magnecor wires,Blitz DSBC/gauge/Dual Timer,Apexi AFC,HKS SBOV,
ATR DP/ tespipe,Borla Cat-back,OZ Mito2 rims,Yoko AVS-Z1,braided brake lines,
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Date: Sun, 28 Mar 1999 16:09:13 -0600
From: "Omar Malik" <ojm@iname.com>
Subject: RE: Team3S: First Mod and Missing Link

snip
> I'm considering my first mod, that being the replacement of
> the stock air filter with a K&N FIPK. There was a posting on
> the starnet list a while back, stating that a Blitz Core type
> filter and a HKS VPC would be a better choice than the K&N.
> Opinions please?????
snip

A Blitz Core type will flow better then a K&N regardless of other mods.
There's also need for any filtercharger kit when cleaning. Just wash with
water.

Omar
92 r/t


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Date: Sun, 28 Mar 1999 17:01:24 -0600
From: "Omar Malik" <ojm@iname.com>
Subject: RE: Team3S: First Mod and Missing Link

> There's also need for any filtercharger kit when cleaning. Just wash with
> water.

i meant NO need. sorry.

Omar
92 r/t

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Date: Sun, 28 Mar 1999 16:08:50 -0800
From: wce@bc.sympatico.ca
Subject: Team3S: Clutch cross post

Has any member of this group who subscribes to the other 3S groups,
cross posted on the clutch group purchase??? The time window is short,
so a few more added to the tally will give us the next price break. I
remain steadfastly a solo subscriber so I am a bit in the dark as to
what traffic is on the other lists. The price is good and can be even
better with a few more in on the purchase. Go to Roger's home page for
additional information on the purchase for those interested.

Best

Darc

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Date: Sun, 28 Mar 1999 21:43:41 -0500
From: Leland Gray <grayda@erols.com>
Subject: Team3S: Re:

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How long does what take?

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Date: Sun, 28 Mar 1999 18:47:43 -0800
From: wce@bc.sympatico.ca
Subject: Re: Team3S: Re:

Leland;

I believe Ken meant how long would it take before you queried his
question <grin> Actually, I believe the question was directed at the
clutch group order, and queried how long would it take before one
received their order. The answer at this point seems to be around the 2+
month period, but Roger will advise more accurately on this as the close
date nears, as he's the lead man on the purchase.

Best

Darc

Leland Gray wrote:

>  How long does what take?
>
> Ken Taft wrote:
>
>>  how long does it take!
>


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Date: Sun, 28 Mar 1999 23:25:06 -0600
From: "Oskar" <swede@pclink.com>
Subject: Team3S: Fuel pressure gauge install

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The snow has melted here in Minnesota and my car is still not ready for =
the road :(   Next in line is the installation of the Autometer fuel =
pressure gauge.  Does anyone have any suggestions where to install the =
fuel pressure sender and how to connect it?  The sender unit has one =
inlet.  It looks kind of like the stock oil pressure sender.  I just =
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Date: Mon, 29 Mar 1999 00:40:26 -0500
From: Jason and Cristy Barnhart <phnxgld@erols.com>
Subject: Re: Team3S: AVC-R installation (conclusion)

  Well, turns out I'd missed a couple steps in the install.  I'm just thankfull it was
running rich and not lean.  The injectors still max, but not nearly so easily.  I had Mike
Mahaffey look at it, the install's ok and he thinks it's runnin pretty strong.  I think I
can feel a difference, hard for me to say though.  I spend too much time in an older
Prelude, the 3000 isn't a daily driver anymore.  I was trying to conserve fuel, so I still
need to play with it a bit, but it seems to be able to hold near .80 atmosphere to redline
in 2nd now, so that's alot better.
  Thanks to everyone who helped, sorry to waste so much bandwidth on a dumb mistake.

Jason

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Date: Sun, 28 Mar 1999 22:59:31 -0800
From: jsp <jsp@rancho.net>
Subject: Team3S: g p on the clutch

what models and years does this g p cover

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Date: Mon, 29 Mar 1999 04:39:59 -0600
From: Ken Taft <kentaft@cwix.com>
Subject: Team3S: how long does it take

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Date: Mon, 29 Mar 1999 08:39:30 -0600
From: Wayne <wala@hypertech-inc.com>
Subject: Re: Team3S: Fuel pressure gauge install

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Oskar,
Is the fuel pressure sender you refer to a electrical sending unit, or a
pressure isolator? If it is a elec. sending unit, i would remove the fuel rails
and tap into one of them. I'm sure the thread size is 1/8" NPT. You could also
cut the inlet line between the filter and fuel rails and use a brass tee
connector, but i would recomend against trusting hose clamps to hold that kind
of pressure.

On the other hand, if it is a pressure isolator (used on the mech gages) all i
can say is, GOOD LUCK.......Iv'e never known anyone, including myself, who was
able to get one of those things bled and working properly.

Whatever you decide, just make sure you mount it somewhere between the fuel
filter and the fuel pressure regulator..........good luck...

Wayne

At 11:25 PM 3/28/99 -0600, you wrote:
>
> Does anyone have any suggestions where to install the fuel pressure sender
> and how to connect it?  The sender unit has one inlet.  It looks kind of like
> the stock oil pressure sender.  I just don't see how to install it with the
> hardware supplied.

> Oskar
> '95 R/T TT



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Oskar,<br>
Is the fuel pressure sender you refer to a electrical sending unit, or a
pressure isolator? If it is a elec. sending unit, i would remove the fuel
rails and tap into one of them. I'm sure the thread size is 1/8&quot;
NPT. You could also cut the inlet line between the filter and fuel rails
and use a brass tee connector, but i would recomend against trusting hose
clamps to hold that kind of pressure. <br>
<br>
On the other hand, if it is a pressure isolator (used on the mech gages)
all i can say is, GOOD LUCK.......Iv'e never known anyone, including
myself, who was able to get one of those things bled and working
properly.<br>
<br>
Whatever you decide, just make sure you mount it somewhere between the
fuel filter and the fuel pressure regulator..........good luck...<br>
<br>
Wayne <br>
<br>
At 11:25 PM 3/28/99 -0600, you wrote: <br>
<font size=2><blockquote type=cite cite>Does anyone have any suggestions
where to install the fuel pressure sender and how to connect it?&nbsp;
The sender unit has one inlet.&nbsp; It looks kind of like the stock oil
pressure sender.&nbsp; I just don't see how to install it with the
hardware supplied.</font><br>
&nbsp;<br>
<font size=2>Oskar</font><br>
'95 R/T TT</blockquote><br>
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