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Date:
Sun, 7 Mar 1999 20:18:52 -0600
From: "Brad Bedell" <bbedell@austin.rr.com>
Subject:
RE: Team3S: Removal of factory air conditioning
I am going to assume you
mean compressor and not condenser.
If memory serves me correctly, you should
be able to remove the AC
compressor, use a smaller belt and still use
the tensioner. Some creative
routing of the belt may happen, but this
is unlikely.
> Brad
Member of ESSC since 1999>
> Check
out my home page: http://lonestar.texas.net/~bbedell
>
E-Mail: bbedell@austin.rr.com
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On Behalf Of Del A Kolasinski
Sent: Monday, March 08, 1999 6:37 PM
To: stealth-3000gt@list.sirius.com
Subject:
Team3S: Removal of factory air conditioning
A friend and I are looking
into yanking out the A.C. system in order to
shave a few unwanted
pounds. I havn't started yet but through working on
his we have hit a
snag. We have removed everything except for the
condensor. It
seems that it has to stay in there as it has a pulley on
it that turns an
accessory belt. Does anybody know of a way to bypass
this pulley
without hurting anything? Maybe shorter belt(s) a dummy
pulley that will fill
in when the condensor is gone? Any ideas would
be
great.
Thanks,
Del Kolasinski
PEARLVR42C@juno.com
wisc.dsm.org
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Date:
Sun, 7 Mar 1999 20:22:43 -0600
From: "Brad Bedell" <bbedell@austin.rr.com>
Subject:
Team3S: Active Aero wing for free/trade/
Hey everyone, I am wanting to
delete my Active Aero wing.
What I need:
Someone with a pearl
white car (1991/92 color) With a base Stealth or 3000.
(with no
wing)
I may consider using a Stealth with the Taco wing hatch, I just would
need
to see how difficult it is to remove the wing.
I want to swap the
whole rear hatch for a hatch that does not have a wing.
Any
takers?
> Brad
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Date:
Sun, 07 Mar 1999 22:01:12 -0500
From: William Lynn Larsen <wlarsen@ibm.net>
Subject: Re: Team3S:
Removal of factory air conditioning
I agree that a shorter belt should
work. But if you haven't already
disconnected the hoses, please go to a
shop and have them reclaim the
refrigerant.
We really need to keep
this in mind when we or those we know work on
AC
systems.
Regards,
Lynn
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Date:
Sun, 7 Mar 1999 16:13:13 -0600
From: "Brent & Tara Maksymiw" <brent.tara@sk.sympatico.ca>
Subject:
Team3S: Is the mail server down?
This is a test as there has been no
Team3S mail in over a day.
Brent
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Date:
Sun, 7 Mar 1999 21:52:53 -0600
From: "Brent & Tara Maksymiw" <brent.tara@sk.sympatico.ca>
Subject:
Re: Team3S: Removal of factory air conditioning
>I agree that a
shorter belt should work. But if you haven't already <snip>
I
would be cautious of doing this for long periods of time. I did
this
successfully at the track with one of my previous cars without a
problem.
After a while I got lazy and decided to leave the shorter belt on
all the
time. I had a bearing go on the next assessory in line after
the air
compressor within 800kms. It may have been coincidence, but it
could have
been due to increased side loading on the bearing due to the
sharper angles
the shorter belt made. I had another friend with the
same car that
experienced this as well. Note: This car had an
auto belt tensioner, so
the belt tension with the shorter belt was not
increased.
Brent Maksymiw
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Date:
Sun, 07 Mar 1999 22:43:41 -0500
From: William Lynn Larsen <wlarsen@ibm.net>
Subject: Re: Team3S: Is
the mail server down?
Brent,
At least there is not the flame war
to put up with like there is on the
Stealth@dragnet
list.
Regards,
Lynn
Brent & Tara Maksymiw wrote:
>
> This is a test as there has been no Team3S mail in over a day.
>
> Brent
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Date:
Mon, 8 Mar 1999 07:42:41 -0600
From: "Bill Davis" <b-davis@primary.net>
Subject:
Team3S: Smoked by a ZR1
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That's right folks, smoked, not once, not twice, but
three times.
Here's how it went. I was at the gas station, just got done
filling up, =
when up pulls
a nice looking red ZR1. I looked at him, he
looked at me, I went on =
about my business.
Next thing I know there a
voice from behind introducing himself to me.
At any rate he's pretty
cool, asked if I wanted to race, without =
hesitation I said sure.
I asked
where, he said,(St. Louis guys) Manchester Rd. out by wild horse =
creek
rd.
He then said he wanted to go from a punch, so he knew what I had on
him.
On the way out there we open road, he nodded me on, I jumped on it,
=
pulled about a=20
car length, I could hear his tires squealing, and he
blew by me. We did =
this two more
times, and then he pulled over, came
back to my car, I asked him what =
mods he had,
he said only a exhaust
system, similar the Borla cat back for my car.
He then told me the stock
H.P. of his car 405, claimed it to be a 30K =
Lotus option
engine
available for the Vette.
He also claimed to have run low 12's with
it, at a local track, with =
different tires on it.
He said the window
sticker was over 70K.
Still a nice guy, claimed he's never been beat by a
VR-4.
Does anyone know, should I have been able to run with him?
Ever
heard of this engine option?
I think it's time for some mods.
By the
way, I'm at ~59K right now, the water pump, timing belt, and all =
of that
stuff
has already been replaced, but my plugs have nearly 60K on them.
My
only mod is a K&N FIPK.
Feelin pretty low Bill Davis 95
VR-4
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asked him what mods he had,</FONT></DIV>
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color=3D#000000 size=3D2>he said only a exhaust system, =
similar the
Borla=20
cat back for my car.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT
color=3D#000000
size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT
color=3D#000000 size=3D2>He then told me the stock H.P. of =
his car
405,=20
claimed it to be a 30K Lotus option
engine</FONT></DIV>
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Vette.</FONT></DIV>
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been
beat=20
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VR-4.</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT
color=3D#000000 size=3D2>Does anyone know, should I have been =
able to
run=20
with him?</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT
color=3D#000000 size=3D2>Ever heard of this engine
=
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size=3D2>I think it's time for some
=
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<DIV><FONT
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=
timing=20
belt, and all of that
stuff</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2>has already
been replaced, but my plugs have nearly =
60K
on=20
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only mod is a K&N
FIPK.</FONT></DIV>
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95=20
VR-4</FONT></DIV></BODY></HTML>
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Date:
Mon, 08 Mar 1999 09:22:24 PST
From: "Nathan Crisman" <spyder_talon@hotmail.com>
Subject:
Team3S: sock turbo's
HELP!!!
I bought a set of stock turbo's off a
guy, abut they haven't gotten here
(sent out two weeks ago USPS). I need a
set by the end of the week, or
the garage that has my Stealth is going to
start charging me rent to
store the car. I can only afford $400
(that's with the seller paying
shipping I need to have them by friday)
I feel like such a chimp doing
this, but whomever can sell me a set and have
them to me in NJ by friday
afternoon will be in my eternal gratitude.
I guess Im going to send
back the other set if they ever get here, and pay
the shipping back to
the guy. Oh yeah, obviosly they can't have shaft
play or broken blades,
because the shop is attemping to void my warrenty (on
the new engine I
had installed my them) if I don't replace my totally ruined
turbo's with
good ones (they originally wouldn't install used ones without
them being
flowbenched and rebuilt) so I really need a set that looks like
they are
in great shape.
Sorry to whine in front of you guys, but
this is such a rotten situation
with this car, a never ending problem and
money pit.
Nathan Crisman
1030 Rt 94
Blairstown,
NJ
07825
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Date:
Mon, 8 Mar 1999 13:08:59 -0500
From: Bryan Schwieg <schwieg@ibm.net>
Subject: Team3S:Getrag
rebuild sucess
Hello everyone,
I just had my getrag trans rebuilt by
Buschur Racing and it was sucessful. I was having problems with 2nd and 4th
gears. 2nd gear was only a problem if I shifted quickly, but it prevented me
from racing. 4th I had to baby and usually bypassed it and went directly to
5th.
First off let me say that the trans is rebuildable, it comes apart
easily, once you know the trick. At the back of the trans is a black plug,
remove this and inside is an allen screw. Removing the allen screw and this
allows you to remove the back cover which give you access to the gear
assemblies. Dan Buschur, who performed the rebuild, showed me how the synchro's
operated and what I needed. I had purchased the synchro's from Jack T. earlier
but also needed a 2nd gear and a couple of bearings. Thanks to Frank at Kormax
for getting the bearings and a 2nd gear. He had new bearings, but only used
gears. I wasn't happy about using a used gear, but I couldn't seem to locate a
new one. I sent an e-mail to this Max at NYMaxxNY but never got a response back.
Also tried to locate a Trico which supposely had parts and rebuilt getrags out
of Brooklyn but was unsucessful. The gear Kormax sent was better than mine, but
it was worn. As Dan showed me, the way the synchro's engage if your 1s!
t or
2nd becomes worn, chances are you'll need a gear also. However, on 3rd and 4th
the gear teeth don't wear, due to how those engage. Dan had rebuilt lots of dsm
trans. and said the trans was well built but a pain. The pain comes from the
springloaded ball bearings within the synchros, trying to put them in after they
pop out while assembling. That aside, I was there as Dan assembled the trans and
it didn't seem to be that difficult, Dan might have a different view however. I
had a new centerforce installed while the trans was out and also upgraded my
fuel system and exhaust. I'm now ready for turbos, which will be next after I
put in my boost controller. Dan put the trans back in and Success!!! The car
shifts great, no more grinding in 2nd or 4th at any speed. Time to hit the track
and see what she's running, hopefully at least high 12's with the stock turbo's
on race fuel.
Oh yeah, cost for the rebuild including the bearings, 2nd
gear, and 1,2,3,4 synchros came to under 1k but your price might vary, Dan
wasn't too interested in doing another, the biggest pain he says is getting the
trans out, it took about 4 hrs to remove it, whereas he can do a clutch change
in a awd dsm in 1 1/2 hrs. start to finish.
One final thing, Dan can get
brand-new trans for around 2k I think it was $2200. This is factory new not a
rebuilt, something to keep in mind.
Buschur Racing, located in Wakeman,OH
about 40min. outside Cleveland
440-839-1900 Dan said he would be more
interested in working on non-turbo's.
Hope this helps
Bryan
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Date:
Mon, 8 Mar 1999 14:24:27 EST
From: Aso8@aol.com
Subject: Re: Team3S: sock
turbo's
Nathan, I have a set of the stock turbos off my 91 VR-4. I
upgraded to 15G
turbos.
I can sell & deliver the set to you for
$270.00 ($250 + $20 shipping) I can
ship Tues AM from NYC. Will get to you in
about 1-2 days. These were working
fine when I took them off. Had about 80K
miles on them but really worked
perfectly.
I also have 2 almost new
15G TEC turbos $1500+ $20 shipping. I'm upgrading
again to much larger units
for track use.
Either, your choice...Let me know fast If you want shipping
immediately!
Arty 91 VR-4
<< Subj: Team3S: sock
turbo's
Date: 3/8/99 9:33:58 AM Pacific Standard Time
From: spyder_talon@hotmail.com (Nathan
Crisman)
Sender: owner-stealth-3000gt@list.sirius.com
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stealth-3000gt@list.sirius.com
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stealth-3000gt@list.sirius.com
HELP!!!
I
bought a set of stock turbo's off a guy, abut they haven't gotten here
(sent out two weeks ago USPS). I need a set by the end of the week, or
the garage that has my Stealth is going to start charging me rent to
store the car. I can only afford $400 (that's with the seller
paying
shipping I need to have them by friday) I feel like such
a chimp doing
this, but whomever can sell me a set and have them to me
in NJ by friday
afternoon will be in my eternal gratitude. I
guess Im going to send
back the other set if they ever get here, and
pay the shipping back to
the guy. Oh yeah, obviosly they can't
have shaft play or broken blades,
because the shop is attemping to
void my warrenty (on the new engine I
had installed my them) if I
don't replace my totally ruined turbo's with
good ones (they
originally wouldn't install used ones without them being
flowbenched
and rebuilt) so I really need a set that looks like they are
in great
shape.
Sorry to whine in front of you guys, but
this is such a rotten situation
with this car, a never ending problem
and money pit.
Nathan Crisman
1030 Rt
94
Blairstown, NJ
07825
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Date:
Mon, 8 Mar 1999 12:27:54 -0800
From: Chris Winkley <cwinkley@plaza.ds.adp.com>
Subject:
RE: Team3S: Smoked by a ZR1
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From: Bill
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Sent:
Monday, March 08, 1999 5:43 AM
To: stealth-3000gt@list.sirius.com
Cc:
stealth@starnet.net
Subject: Team3S:
Smoked by a ZR1
<snip>
Does anyone know, should I have been
able to run with him?
Ever heard of this engine option?
I think it's time
for some mods.
<snip>
Feelin pretty low Bill Davis 95 VR-4
==============================
Bill...
Don't feel too bad, half
the thrill is the race itself. I don't know about
the engine you referred to,
but keep in mind that some people don't tell the
"whole" story about their
mods.
When you get ready for those mods, check out Chien's page
at
"nexusmotorsports". He outlines a clear staged mods path. Also keep in
mind
the learning from Roger and friends in Europe who just did dyno work
on
three TTs. It appears it may be worth doing the injectors and fuel
pump
before anything else!!!
Looking forward...Chris
1995 Glacier
Pearl White VR4 (w/HKS Super Flo intake, HKS SBOV, Predator dry
cell battery,
bored and polished throttle body, Magnecore 8.5mm wires, HKS
double platinum
plugs gapped at .034", GReddy PRofec A boost controller,
GReddy turbo timer,
ATR downpipe and test pipe, GReddy catback exhaust,
Eibach 1" drop
progressive springs)
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Date:
Mon, 08 Mar 1999 12:31:50 -0800
From: Roger Gerl <robby@swissonline.ch>
Subject: Re:
Team3S: Smoked by a ZR1
> That's right folks, smoked, not once, not
twice, but three times.
The ZR1 IS very powerful ! I drove it once and
wish to have this engine in my
Z28 ;-)
> He then told me the stock
H.P. of his car 405, claimed it to be a 30K Lotus
> option engine
available for the Vette.
I don't know what the Lotus option should be but
stock SAE hp is around the 400
horses. The Borla does give the car more punch
in the upper region.
> Does anyone know, should I have been able to
run with him?
With your stock setup and K&N you're 1/4 would be low
14 to high 13 and his is
in the 12's. So you had no chance.
> By
the way, I'm at ~59K right now, the water pump, timing belt, and all of
>
that stuff has already been replaced, but my plugs have nearly 60K on
them.
The usual 60k service should contain the plugs. Replace them now
and gap them
around 0.034 for your future boost of around 14.2 psi. Then
install a good boost
controller of your choice to go to this
level.
With this mod you'll have a good chance to go into the lower 13's
region but you
have to get familiar with the new behaivour the car first
:)
Good luck,
Roger, Switzerland
> My only mod is a
K&N FIPK.
>
> Feelin pretty low Bill Davis 95 VR-4
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Date:
Mon, 08 Mar 1999 13:35:23 -0700
From: dave <monarchd+team3s@colorado.edu>
Subject:
Team3S: K&N oil filters
I know this was recently discussed, but I
thought I'd give everyone a quick
fyi.. I picked up a K&N gold
performance (or somesuch name) oil filter
yesterday at Checker Auto
Parts.. I believe there are other stores around
the country under
different names like Kragen (I think), etc..
anyway, the reason I felt
compelled to share, was that I called Checker and
they told me they didn't
carry them.. well, I went in anyway to pick up some
Mobil 1 15/50 and
low and behold, there they were.. $10.. same as Mobil
1
filters.. (btw, I did the flush and switch to Mobil
1.. still a little
ticking at
startup until you bring up the rpms,
but much better..)
Dave
91 VR4
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Date:
Mon, 08 Mar 1999 12:39:25 -0800
From: Ken Middaugh <middaugh@omega.gat.com>
Subject:
Team3S: Need new brake rotors & pads
Well it is time for new front
rotors & pads for my '91 VR4. I want to
upgrade without going into
the $1000+ realm. I do plan on attending
road course track events two
or three times a year. I may use a street
pad most of the time and use
a race pad at the track, or just use a race
pad all the time. All
advice & recomendations welcome.
This is what I've read in the
past:
Porterfield: Great pads & rotors. Pads seem to last
the longest for
track usage. Has anyone used their cross-drilled or
cryogenically
treated rotors? Right now I'm leaning toward these with
their street or
maybe race pad.
Powerslots: Rich busted one of
these rotors at the track which makes me
apprehensive. Other than that,
they have been recommended others.
Stillen: I just went through a
set of Metal Matrix pads in half a day
at the track, (hence the reason for
this post). I've also heard that
the rotors aren't the
best.
Bremsa: Roger & Mikael are using these with pagid
pads. Roger has
hinted that he still gets a little pulsation from
warping. Probably out
of my price range anyway.
Brembo:
Out of my price range
Porsche GT2: I want these, but out of my
price range (maybe when I get
a '94+ :)).
Thanks in
advance,
Ken
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General Atomics
San
Diego
(619) 455-4510
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Date:
Mon, 08 Mar 1999 15:12:42 -0600
From: Merritt <merritt@cedar-rapids.net>
Subject:
Re: Team3S: Need new brake rotors & pads
At 12:39 PM 3/8/99 -0800,
you wrote:
>Well it is time for new front rotors & pads for my '91
VR4. I want to
>upgrade without going into the $1000+ realm. I
do plan on attending
>road course track events two or three times a
year. I may use a street
>pad most of the time and use a race pad at
the track, or just use a race
>pad all the time. All advice &
recomendations welcome.
>
I suggest you upgrade to 94+ rotors and
calipers, at least on the front.
The rotor is a little bigger.
I'm not
sure what all is involved -- maybe it's a real simple bolt on.
I can't give
you an update on my new Powerslots and Performance Friction
carbon metallic
pads until after the first event at Topeka in April.
Rich/old poop/94
VR4
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Date:
Mon, 8 Mar 1999 13:20:39 -0800 (PST)
From: George Kuo <amkreadgto@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re:
Team3S: Need new brake rotors & pads
- ---Ken Middaugh <middaugh@omega.gat.com>
wrote:
>
> This is what I've read in the past:
>
>
Porterfield: Great pads & rotors. Pads seem to last the longest
for
> track usage. Has anyone used their cross-drilled or
cryogenically
> treated rotors? Right now I'm leaning toward these
with their
street or
> maybe race pad.
My experience with
Poterfield products is very satisfactory. When I
use to have stock
calipers I bought a set of R4 (race) and R4s
(street) from them. But I notice
their pads has noticeablly smaller
surface area than stock ones (i have a '92
RT TT). Other from that,
the pads worked great on the street and on the
track. After I upgrade
to Brembos I still use Porterfield pads, its the
pad for F-40!
As for the rotors, my Stillen/Brembo rotors cracked after 3
weekends
at a road course. I went to Porterfield and got a stock '94
(bigger
than my '92 stock and also bigger then the Brembo/Stillen and
alot
cheaper too!) They pre-treated and cross-drilled it.
The
cross-drilling looked magnificent!! better than the
Stillen/Brembo
cross-drills... one other thing.. they claim their R4 (race
pads) are
streetable, no need to heat up, and rotor-friendly... plus long
wear!!
but I just use the R4s (street) for regular driving.. oh yea,
they
also throw in some Motul racing brake fluids for free everytime
I'm
there! =)
George
p.s. I just got to meet Roger (Mr.
Swiss) last sat. Nice finally to
meet someone from the list.. all this
chatting thru email makes me
want to see what everyone look like! Hope you
like the Chinese food
Roger.. its not too hardcore is
it??
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Date:
Mon, 8 Mar 1999 15:38:25 -0600
From: "Matt Jannusch" <mattj@fallon.com>
Subject: RE: Team3S:
Smoked by a ZR1
> > He then told me the stock H.P. of his car 405,
claimed it to be
> > a 30K Lotus option engine available for the
Vette.
> I don't know what the Lotus option should be but stock SAE hp
is
> around the 400 horses. The Borla does give the car more
punch
> in the upper region.
By "Lotus option" he probably meant
the ZR1 motor, which was
designed by Lotus for GM and manufactured by Mercury
Marine.
> With your stock setup and K&N you're 1/4 would be low 14
to high
> 13 and his is in the 12's. So you had no chance.
The
odds would be better right after a nice rain. ;-)
-
-Matt
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Date:
Mon, 08 Mar 1999 16:56:10 -0600
From: Wayne <wala@hypertech-inc.com>
Subject:
Re: Team3S: Need new brake rotors & pads
If you do, dont plan on
putting your 17" wheels back on the car.... Don't
ask me how i know
this.........
Wayne
At 03:12 PM 3/8/99 -0600, you
wrote:
>I suggest you upgrade to 94+ calipers, at least on the
front.
>
>Rich/old poop/94 VR4
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Date:
Mon, 8 Mar 1999 08:21:11 -0800
From: Steven Clarke <steve.clarke@e-d-a.com>
Subject:
RE: Team3S: Smoked by a ZR1
Yep he was right. The ZRI has a Lotus
designed 4 cam, 32 valve V8. A
couple of years ago I took my VR4 to
Laguna Seca for a hot lapping day. A
ZR1 with slicks was the only car
able to blow by me. Don't feel too bad :(
- -----Original
Message-----
From: Bill Davis [SMTP:b-davis@primary.net]
Sent:
Monday, March 08, 1999 5:43 AM
To: stealth-3000gt@list.sirius.com
Cc:
stealth@starnet.net
Subject: Team3S:
Smoked by a ZR1
<< File: ATT00000.html >> That's right
folks, smoked, not once, not twice,
but three times.
Here's how it
went. I was at the gas station, just got done filling up,
when up pulls
a
nice looking red ZR1. I looked at him, he looked at me, I went on about
my
business.
Next thing I know there a voice from behind introducing himself to
me.
At any rate he's pretty cool, asked if I wanted to race, without
hesitation
I said sure.
I asked where, he said,(St. Louis guys)
Manchester Rd. out by wild horse
creek rd.
He then said he wanted to go
from a punch, so he knew what I had on him.
On the way out there we open
road, he nodded me on, I jumped on it, pulled
about a
car length, I could
hear his tires squealing, and he blew by me. We did
this two more
times,
and then he pulled over, came back to my car, I asked him what mods
he
had,
he said only a exhaust system, similar the Borla cat back for my
car.
He then told me the stock H.P. of his car 405, claimed it to be a
30K Lotus
option engine
available for the Vette.
He also claimed to
have run low 12's with it, at a local track, with
different tires on
it.
He said the window sticker was over 70K.
Still a nice guy, claimed
he's never been beat by a VR-4.
Does anyone know, should I have been able
to run with him?
Ever heard of this engine option?
I think it's time for
some mods.
By the way, I'm at ~59K right now, the water pump, timing
belt, and all of
that stuff
has already been replaced, but my plugs have
nearly 60K on them.
My only mod is a K&N FIPK.
Feelin pretty
low Bill Davis 95 VR-4
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Date:
Mon, 08 Mar 1999 21:06:13 -0500
From: William Lynn Larsen <wlarsen@ibm.net>
Subject: Team3S: What
class would 3/S cars run in?
I am curious what class would the 3/S cars
run in at a sanctioned race?
The answer to this may also be the answer to my
more basic question: why
don't we see more 3/S cars running in sports car
races like the 24hrs of
Daytona or Sebring or other well known sports car
races?? I see other
DSM cars in them and all of the cars mentioned here
as competition for
our cars, but why no 3KGTs or
Stealths??
Regards,
Lynn
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Date:
Mon, 08 Mar 1999 18:39:43 -0800
From: Roger Gerl <robby@swissonline.ch>
Subject: Re:
Team3S: Need new brake rotors & pads
> Powerslots: Rich
busted one of these rotors at the track which makes me
>
apprehensive. Other than that, they have been recommended others.
>
> Stillen: I just went through a set of Metal Matrix pads in half a
day
> at the track, (hence the reason for this post). I've also
heard that
> the rotors aren't the best.
The Powerslots and Stillen
seem to be about the same quality. The only thing
that I can say is that with
slotted rotors you are getting about 20% more wear
on the pads (of course,
depends on how you stop).
> Bremsa: Roger & Mikael are using
these with pagid pads. Roger has
> hinted that he still gets a
little pulsation from warping. Probably out
> of my price range
anyway.
Yeah, they are out of the price range as shipping would be too
high. The Pagids
are ok and after they remachined the rotors the warped
feeling is gone, almost.
This because the Pagid pads do work good when
temperature raises over 0°C. Of
course breaking one time and this is it but
when driving on the highway on temps
below 0°C they cool down and when then
braking slowly they give the warped
feeling until they are heated up after 2
or 3 seconds.
> Porsche GT2: I want these, but out of my price
range (maybe when I get
> a '94+ :)).
You do need larger calipers
for them :/
> I just got to meet Roger (Mr. Swiss) last sat. Nice
finally to
> meet someone from the list.. all this chatting thru email
makes me
> want to see what everyone look like! Hope you like the Chinese
food
> Roger.. its not too hardcore is it??
Hehe, it depends what
and... I'm still alive :-)
Hope to see more members
soon.
Regards,
Roger
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