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Date:
Sun, 7 Feb 1999 09:59:02 -0600
From: Scott J Cowan <sjc0u812@juno.com>
Subject: Team3S:
Rolex 24
Hello to all:
Quick off subject question...caught the end
of the Rolex 24 to find a
Mistubishi listed in the GT3 class, number
09. Finished like 39 over
all, like 23 in it's class. Anyone
klnow, is this a VR4? Do we know
these folks?
Just
curious.
Thanks, and
regards,
Scott
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Date:
Sun, 7 Feb 1999 10:04:02 -0600
From: Scott J Cowan <sjc0u812@juno.com>
Subject: Team3S:
Tire Swapping
Hello to all:
Does anyone know of a company or
anyone personally that might interested
in swapping some tires? We have
a set of BF Goodrich T/A radials,
P225/60R16's, just over 10K mikes,
that I hate and would like to find a
pair of a different brand.
If
interested, or can help, please e-mail me privately at:
sjc0u812@juno.com
Thank you, and
regards,
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Date:
Sun, 7 Feb 1999 11:33:42 EST
From: MrX2111@aol.com
Subject: Re: Team3S: New
Products
$7080_for entire kit and light upgrade 8) ouch but well
worth it.
Xannieria
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Date:
Sun, 07 Feb 1999 13:07:41 -0500
From: Don Kessler <dgkessler@ameritech.net>
Subject:
Team3S: Engine Oil
I would like to use synthetic oil in my 1993 R/T TT,
but I am confused
on which brand to use. I drive the car only in the
nicer weather here
in Michigan (April through November) so I was thinking of
using a 10W40
weight. Any and all suggestions would be
appreciated.
Thanks,
Don
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Date:
Sun, 7 Feb 1999 13:29:08 EST
From: Aso8@aol.com
Subject: Re: Team3S: Engine
Oil
The Mobil One 10W-30 will work fine for your weather
conditions.
Arty 91 VR-4
In a message dated 2/7/99 1:07:28 PM Eastern
Standard Time,
dgkessler@ameritech.net
writes:
<< Subj: Team3S: Engine Oil
Date: 2/7/99 1:07:28
PM Eastern Standard Time
From: dgkessler@ameritech.net (Don
Kessler)
Sender: owner-stealth-3000gt@list.sirius.com
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stealth-3000gt@list.sirius.com
To:
stealth-3000gt@list.sirius.com
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I
would like to use synthetic oil in my 1993 R/T TT, but I am confused
on
which brand to use. I drive the car only in the nicer weather
here
in Michigan (April through November) so I was thinking of using a
10W40
weight. Any and all suggestions would be
appreciated.
Thanks,
>>
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Date:
Sun, 07 Feb 1999 14:12:43 PST
From: "Nathan Crisman" <spyder_talon@hotmail.com>
Subject:
Team3S: Re: Team3S Digest V1 #94
Hey guys...
Im looking for a set of
turbo's for a Stealth...mainly a set off of
someones car that
upgraded. I just had a rebuilt motor installed, but
my turbo's are
missing quite a few compressor blades...hmmm tha't why
with no boost
controler on it at all (open hoses!), it only made 4psi.
IF anyone can
help me out, Id really appreciate it.
Plus..can anyone give me an idea of
what's got to come off to replace
both turbo's? IV done it on an awd
Talon, but the back one on my
stealth looks wedged in pretty
bad.
Nathan Crisman
91 AWD Talon (13.4@104)
92 Stealth (not been
good to me, spun the rod bearing on #1, destroyed
the crank. While
having the motor replaced, I confirm the turbo's a
wiped
out.)
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Date:
Sun, 07 Feb 1999 17:43:22 -0500
From: Don Kessler <dgkessler@ameritech.net>
Subject:
Team3S: Engine Oil Filter
Sorry Gang,
I forgot to ask this with my
question on engine oil. I religiously
change the oil and filter on my daily
drivers at 2000 miles. I have read
on one of the lists that you should change
your filter only at every
other oil change. Something about it filters better
when slightly
dirty. I'm sorry but that doesn't seem logical to
me. Why put fresh
oil in the car with a dirty filter that has used oil
in it. How can it
filter better? Help me please, I'm
bewildered.
Thanks,
Don
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Date:
Sun, 07 Feb 1999 17:38:40 -0500
From: Shawn Dewey <sdewey@dmv.com>
Subject: Team3S: Re:
Rolex 24
>Quick off subject question...caught the end of the Rolex 24
to find a
>Mistubishi listed in the GT3 class, number 09. Finished
like 39 over
>all, like 23 in it's class. Anyone klnow, is this a
VR4? Do we know
>these folks?
- ----------------
No this is
not a VR-4 but a 2G eclipse with a 1G motor in it. It is one of
Archer's old
cars and was run in the 24 hour last year and finished the
race then too. The
car is sponsored by Daytona Mitsubishi. Yes I am
familiar with them. The road
racing DSM family is quite small :)
OA position
start
position
car number
class
class position
car
purse
laps
complete and reason out (if
any).
Drivers/hometowns
39
70
09
GT3
16
Daytona
Mitsubishi/Mitsubishi Eclipse
$1,000
455
Craig Conway/Daytona
Beach/Fla.
Todd Flis/Daytona Beach/Fla.
Eric Van
Cleef/Huntsville/Ala.
- -shawn dewey
'91 Stealth R/T
nonturbo 15.426 @ 90.68 (in the happy hands of a new owner!)
'93 3000GT VR4
12.98 @ 107 mph
'91 Talon TSI AWD 13.6 @ 98.8 (the commuter car, yeah right!
:)
'95 Talon ESi SCCA Race Car (SSC class)
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Date:
Sun, 7 Feb 1999 18:00:33 EST
From: Aso8@aol.com
Subject: Re: Team3S: Engine Oil
Filter
Don, on a brand new oil filter it needs to clog up a bit to get
the required
resistance needed to filter out the really small particles. Just
like the K&N
air filter needs to get a bit dirty to work better.
Arty
91 VR-4
In a message dated 2/7/99 5:41:36 PM Eastern Standard Time,
dgkessler@ameritech.net
writes:
<< Subj: Team3S: Engine Oil Filter
Date: 2/7/99
5:41:36 PM Eastern Standard Time
From: dgkessler@ameritech.net (Don
Kessler)
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Sorry
Gang,
I forgot to ask this with my question on engine oil. I
religiously
change the oil and filter on my daily drivers at 2000
miles. I have read
on one of the lists that you should change your
filter only at every
other oil change. Something about it filters
better when slightly
dirty. I'm sorry but that doesn't seem
logical to me. Why put fresh
oil in the car with a dirty filter
that has used oil in it. How can it
filter better? Help me
please, I'm bewildered.
Thanks, >>
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Date:
Sun, 07 Feb 1999 15:04:12 -0800
From: wce@bc.sympatico.ca
Subject: Re:
Team3S: Engine Oil Filter
Hi Don;
Advise you received on the
oil (Mobil 1 10-30) was right on. It's a matter of conjecture
about changing
every other oil change...personally I do not for the reasons you
have
elucidated. Call me Mr. Clean...clean oil, clean filter. I think you'd
get about 90%
favor a filter change every change and 10% favor it every other
if you conducted a
survey. You'd get the reasons you've already stated, so
it's up to you now to decide.
Best
Darc
Don Kessler
wrote:
> Sorry Gang,
>
> I forgot to ask this with my
question on engine oil. I religiously
> change the oil and filter on my
daily drivers at 2000 miles. I have read
> on one of the lists that you
should change your filter only at every
> other oil change. Something
about it filters better when slightly
> dirty. I'm sorry but that
doesn't seem logical to me. Why put fresh
> oil in the car with a
dirty filter that has used oil in it. How can it
> filter better?
Help me please, I'm bewildered.
>
> Thanks,
>
>
Don
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Date:
Sun, 07 Feb 1999 19:01:16 -0500
From: Shawn Dewey <sdewey@dmv.com>
Subject: Re: Team3S: DSM
technical info CD
You can thank me for some contribution of the
3K/Stealth manuals, as I
donated my 94 stealth and 93 mitsu manuals to Vineet
in order to get this
CD put together as complete as possible. The CD's should
be excellent
quality since the DSM CD manuals are first rate and completely
searchable.
>I was fascinated by a post last week (about a CD
version of the 3S manuals,
>with technical bulletins), so I contacted the
source. Here's some of his
>response. I'm going to order one of the CDs.
I'll let you all know what it
>looks like after I've had a chance to look
at it.
>1991 BODY repair manual (shows ALL structural
parts/seals/paint/etc)
>1994 Dodge Stealth manual (covers ALL
DS's)
>1991 3000gt manual (covers 91-92 3k/DS cars)
>1992-1996+
3000gt manual (covers, well you know :)
>DSM technical manual (covers the
T/E/L line, but applies to the 3/s)
- -shawn dewey
'91 Stealth R/T
nonturbo 15.426 @ 90.68 (in the happy hands of a new owner!)
'93 3000GT VR4
12.98 @ 107 mph
'91 Talon TSI AWD 13.6 @ 98.8 (the commuter car, yeah right!
:)
'95 Talon ESi SCCA Race Car (SSC class)
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Date:
Sun, 07 Feb 1999 19:10:35 -0500
From: Shawn Dewey <sdewey@dmv.com>
Subject: Team3S: Dodge
Stealth model on ebay
Dodge Stealth Indy 500 Official Car.
Can be
built stock or with the Indy decals.
AMT #6806 issued 1991,unbuilt factory
sealed.
http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=63546859
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Date:
Sun, 07 Feb 1999 22:41:18 -0500
From: Ron Thompson <rtetetet@earthlink.net>
Subject:
Re: Team3S: 5-speed problems, part II (advice requested)
Like I said
Eric, i had the identical problems with my Eclipse,
including the grinding in
second up or down. This is what always told
me when the trany fluid was done.
I had to change it 2-3 times a year.
I drove the car about 9 -12 a year.
As for the dealer putting in the right stuff, I wouldn't bet on
it,
that barrel full of universal gear oil is one size fits all. It's
a
cheap and easy experiment changing the trany oil. If that solves
the
problem, you;ll be happy. If it doesn't, then attack the dealer to
fix
or replace the trany. Don't give them the car till the trany is
in
their shop, then you should be out of the car only a few
days.
Ron
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Date:
Tue, 09 Feb 1999 00:14:07 -0800
From: "Errin D. Humphrey" <errin@u.washington.edu>
Subject:
Re: Team3S: Re: Rolex 24
Shawn Dewey wrote:
> >Quick off
subject question...caught the end of the Rolex 24 to find a
>
>Mistubishi listed in the GT3 class, number 09. Finished like 39
over
> >all, like 23 in it's class. Anyone klnow, is this a
VR4? Do we know
> >these folks?
> ----------------
>
No this is not a VR-4 but a 2G eclipse with a 1G motor in it. It is one
of
> Archer's old cars and was run in the 24 hour last year and finished
the
> race then too. The car is sponsored by Daytona Mitsubishi. Yes I
am
> familiar with them. The road racing DSM family is quite small
:)
Speaking of the Rolex 24, the guy who came in first for GT3
class
lives just a few miles away from me, next door neighbor of a
friend
of mine. His name is Darryl Havens, his 911 RSR not only
smoked
the competition in GT3 but actually beat the winner of the GT2
class!
(it was a 911T). He was racing for a pledge drive do donate to
the
Seattle Children's Hospital and for this he was able to raise
$254,000.
Quite a guy. I'll probably pay him a visit this week.
Maybe he has a
couple spare turbos sitting around he could donate for my
car. :-)
Check out: http://www.teamseattle.com/team_seattle.htm
I
was really happy to see that the Mitsubishi finished the race. I
was
hoping to get some videorecorded footage of it, but all the
cameras
would ever show was that ugly Ford (Riley & Scott) hunk of
junk. :)
- --Errin Humphrey
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Date:
Mon, 08 Feb 1999 20:44:08 +1100
From: Andrew Clark <chemist1@ozemail.com.au>
Subject:
Team3S: Tires for VR4
I'm sorry to bore everybody with this subject,
& I know its been cover
heaps of times, but I'm running into problems
getting tyres for my VR4.
I've been quoted prices in the vicinity of $345US
per tyre for the
original 225/50 Yoko's that are on the car at the moment
& was offered a
cheaper alternative by a tyre bloke today who said I
could use 235/45
Bridgestones. I asked if this different tyre size would
effect my speedo
to which he said "not much"(??!!).
Anyway it is proving
difficult to get a 225/50 17 inch tyre for the car
other than the
Yoko.
Any suggestions on a 225/50 alternative to the Yoko's or comments
on
other sizes etc. would be greatly
appreciated.
Thanks
Andrew
Australia
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Date:
Mon, 8 Feb 1999 11:19:55 +0100
From: "=?iso-8859-1?Q?Mikael_=C5kesson?="
<vr4@bahnhof.se>
Subject: RE:
Team3S: Tires for VR4
Maybe it's different in Australia but in the rest
of the world (as I know it)the stock size for a VR-4 is 245/45-17. (245/40-18
for the newer cars.)
So the 235/45 will be closer to stock size but the
225/50 will be closer to the stock 2052mm circumference.
The 235/45 have
2024mm circumference and the 225/50 have 2067mm circumference.
If you
want to calculate these figures, go to this web page and download the "wheel
calculation program". http://www.kw.igs.net/~millebi/
BTW
did you guys notice that the Kaze side view mirrors is exactly the same that the
Celica had 90-93! I guess you can get them at a better price at Toyota. :)
Best regards
Mikael Akesson http://www.bahnhof.se/~vr4
-
-----Original Message-----
From: Andrew Clark <chemist1@ozemail.com.au>
>I've
been quoted prices in the vicinity of $345US per tyre for the
>original
225/50 Yoko's that are on the car at the moment & was offered a cheaper
alternative by a tyre bloke today who said I could use 235/45 Bridgestones. I
asked if this different tyre size would effect my speedo to which he said "not
much"(??!!).
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Date:
Mon, 8 Feb 1999 06:43:50 -0700
From: "Dan Kiehl" <dkiehl@netmdc.com>
Subject: Re:
Team3S: Engine Oil
I use mobil one 10w30..
CYa,
Dan
- -----Original Message-----
From: Don Kessler <dgkessler@ameritech.net>
To: stealth-3000gt@list.sirius.com
<stealth-3000gt@list.sirius.com>
Date:
Sunday, February 07, 1999 11:17 AM
Subject: Team3S: Engine
Oil
>I would like to use synthetic oil in my 1993 R/T TT, but I am
confused
>on which brand to use. I drive the car only in the nicer
weather here
>in Michigan (April through November) so I was thinking of
using a 10W40
>weight. Any and all suggestions would be
appreciated.
>
>Thanks,
>
>Don
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Date:
Mon, 8 Feb 1999 06:54:43 -0700
From: "Dan Kiehl" <dkiehl@netmdc.com>
Subject: Re:
Team3S: DSM technical info CD
how much for the cd?
who do I
contact?
CYa,
Dan
- -----Original
Message-----
From: Shawn Dewey <sdewey@dmv.com>
To: stealth-3000gt@list.sirius.com
<stealth-3000gt@list.sirius.com>
Date:
Sunday, February 07, 1999 5:19 PM
Subject: Re: Team3S: DSM technical info
CD
>You can thank me for some contribution of the 3K/Stealth
manuals, as I
>donated my 94 stealth and 93 mitsu manuals to Vineet in
order to get this
>CD put together as complete as possible. The CD's
should be excellent
>quality since the DSM CD manuals are first rate and
completely searchable.
>
>
>
>>I was fascinated by a
post last week (about a CD version of the 3S
manuals,
>>with
technical bulletins), so I contacted the source. Here's some of
his
>>response. I'm going to order one of the CDs. I'll let you all
know what it
>>looks like after I've had a chance to look at
it.
>
>>1991 BODY repair manual (shows ALL structural
parts/seals/paint/etc)
>>1994 Dodge Stealth manual (covers ALL
DS's)
>>1991 3000gt manual (covers 91-92 3k/DS
cars)
>>1992-1996+ 3000gt manual (covers, well you know
:)
>>DSM technical manual (covers the T/E/L line, but applies to the
3/s)
>
>-shawn dewey
>
>'91 Stealth R/T nonturbo 15.426
@ 90.68 (in the happy hands of a new
owner!)
>'93 3000GT VR4 12.98 @
107 mph
>'91 Talon TSI AWD 13.6 @ 98.8 (the commuter car, yeah right!
:)
>'95 Talon ESi SCCA Race Car (SSC class)
>http://home.dmv.com/~sdewey
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Date:
Mon, 8 Feb 1999 09:41:12 EST
From: Lomcevak@aol.com
Subject: Team3S: FYI:
DOHC Rocker Arm no.'s
For anyone who was
interested in my inquiry as to the meaning of the
numbers stamped on top of
the DOHC engine's rocker arms - I finally contacted
a tech rep at mitsubishi
who told me they are nothing more than an indicator
from the production line
- there is no diference in any of the rockers - they
are all
identical.
SteveC
'91 3000GT SL
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Date:
Sat, 06 Feb 1999 10:19:31 -0600
From: "Todd Schmalzried" <Q11981@email.mot.com>
Subject:
Team3S: and I quote
March 1999 Road & Track page 149 lower
left
"UNDER PRESSURE R & D:After-market performance product leader.
.snip.
Engine, 2WD and ONLY AWD chassis dyno in the U.S.A.! Complete
online
ordering. www.uprd.com
(714)842-3338"
Looks like there might actually be an AWD dyno in the
country. I just
thought you guys might be interested. I haven't called them
yet, I'm on a
plane on the way home right now.
- --
Todd
Schmalzried
q11981@email.mot.com
- -You "put your 2 cents in" but only get "a
penny for your thoughts"
- -Who gets the change? Think about it.
O-
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Date:
Mon, 08 Feb 1999 09:05 -0600
From: Jeff A Williamson <Jeff.A.Williamson@jci.com>
Subject:
Team3S: Boost Question
My '92 VR4 has 103,000 miles on it. I have the HKS
SPF filter, cat-back
exhaust, no cat, and Autometer boost gauge. Before I
intalled an HKS boost
controller, I saw maximum boost of about 6 psi and one
of the turbochagers
(stock) was brand new. According to specifications I've
seen, the stock boost
on that model was 9psi. Now, with the boost
controller, I can easily reach much
higher boost pressures, but with the
boost controller turned off, I still only
see about 6psi. I've also noticed
that in order to achive a boost pressure of
13.5 psi, I have to set my boost
controller at 1.10 kg/cm2 (about 15.5psi I
think).
What specifically
causes a reduction in stock boost pressure? Is it engine wear
(if so, which
components), turbo wear, vacuum leak, etc.?) If the cause of this
lost stock
boost pressure is repaired and stock boost pressure is restored,
will that
correct the calibration problems with my boost controller?
Just curious.
Thanks.
Jeff Williamson
Belleville, MI
'92 VR4
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Date:
Mon, 08 Feb 1999 16:42:12 +0000
From: "R.G." <robby@swissonline.ch>
Subject: Re:
Team3S: Tires for VR4
> Maybe it's different in Australia but in the
rest of the world (as I know it)
> the stock size for a VR-4 is 245/45-17.
(245/40-18 for the newer cars.)
Also the EU cars came stock with
225/50-17. I then had 245/45-17 SP8000 on the
OZ and now Yoko 255/40-17. The
speed offset is negligible :) My best experience
is with the 245/45-17 so
far.
- -----------------------
Roger Gerl, Switzerland
93'3000GT
TwinTurbo (Animale Rosso)
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Date:
Mon, 08 Feb 1999 16:59:25 +0000
From: "R.G." <robby@swissonline.ch>
Subject: Re:
Team3S: Boost Question
Jeff,
> I saw maximum boost of about 6
psi and one of the turbochagers
> (stock) was brand new. According to
specifications I've seen, the stock boost
> on that model was
9psi.
This is not dependent on the turbos. My 93'3000GT max out 6psi when
I turn off
the Blitz controller. With the stock boost solenoid the boost was
somewhat
higher around 7 psi it mainly helps to get max boost
quicker.
> Now, with the boost controller, I can easily reach much
higher boost
> pressures
Sure, and you can easily kill your engine
over 1.00bars (14.7psi)!!
> but with the boost controller turned off,
I still only
> see about 6psi.
Of course it does as the controllers
solenoid will stay fully open and the
pressure goes directly to the
wastegates causing them to open. They start around
4.5psi or so.
>
I've also noticed that in order to achive a boost pressure of
> 13.5 psi,
I have to set my boost controller at 1.10 kg/cm2 (about 15.5psi I
>
think).
This depends on the boost controller, where it measures boost and
where it takes
pressure from to drive the wastegates. IMHO, there is a hose
not connected to
the proper location.
> What specifically
causes a reduction in stock boost pressure?
First, it looks normal for
that year. Then an existing stock solenoid valve can
cause a difference. Also
the preloaded spring in the wastegate actuators are
getting weaker over the
years but with a boost controller this can be controlled
and compensated. I
dunno your boost controller but it is maybe older than the
most we are
running.
Hope this helps,
Roger
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