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Monday, February 1 1999 Volume
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Date:
Sun, 31 Jan 1999 21:32:15 -0600
From: "Brad Bedell" <bbedell@austin.rr.com>
Subject:
RE: Team3S: "Mitsubishi" brake calipers?
I am offering a 12.6" Brembo
package for 1500.00. I can do the calipers in
Red or Black.
>
Brad
Member of ESSC since 1999>
> Check out my home
page: http://lonestar.texas.net/~bbedell
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- -----Original Message-----
From: owner-stealth-3000gt@list.sirius.com
[mailto:owner-stealth-3000gt@list.sirius.com]
On Behalf Of Ryan Peterson
Sent: Saturday, January 30, 1999 9:38 PM
To: stealth-3000gt@list.sirius.com
Subject:
RE: Team3S: "Mitsubishi" brake calipers?
I looked into this a while
back. Unfortunately, the calipers you are
talking about are only on the
turbos and they have a different mounting
pattern than the non-turbos (at
least as late as 1997). The knuckles are
completely different. If you
know someone who's good in metalwork, you may
be able to jury rig them to
fit, but I wouldn't risk weakening the knuckle.
I think you can get some
aftermarket calipers (Brembo, Baer) that would fit
an NT, but you're looking
at $2000-$3000.
ps. Just had mine chromed with the caliper bar gold
plated. Looks VERY
cool! Not too practical though
:)
Ryan P
- -----Original Message-----
Subject: Team3S:
"Mitsubishi" brake calipers?
I have a 93 Stealth non-turbo, and I have
seen a few 3K's with the black
brake calipers with the "Mitsubishi" lettering
on them. I would like to
find out how to get some, are they stovk on
VR-4's?
Matt
3/Si #311
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Date:
Mon, 1 Feb 1999 10:56:11 -0800
From: Chris Winkley <cwinkley@plaza.ds.adp.com>
Subject:
Team3S: DSM technical info CD
Howdy folks...
I was fascinated by a
post last week (about a CD version of the 3S manuals,
with technical
bulletins), so I contacted the source. Here's some of his
response. I'm going
to order one of the CDs. I'll let you all know what it
looks like after I've
had a chance to look at it.
Looking forward...Chris
1995 Glacier
Pearl White VR4 (w/HKS Super Flo intake, HKS SBOV, Predator dry
cell battery,
bored and polished throttle body, Magnecore 8.5mm wires, HKS
double platinum
plugs gapped at .034", GReddy PRofec A boost controller,
GReddy turbo timer,
ATR downpipe and test pipe, GReddy catback exhaust,
Eibach 1" drop
progressive springs)
- -----Original Message-----
From: Vineet
Singh [mailto:a280z@hotmail.com]
Sent: Saturday, January 30, 1999 1:11 AM
To: cwinkley@plaza.ds.adp.com
Cc: a280z@hotmail.com
Subject: Re: DSM
technical info CD
Actually, I took the day off to scan ALL DAY today.
Since 9am till now
(3am) i've been scanning (and FINISHED 2 of
them)
1991 BODY repair manual (shows ALL structural
parts/seals/paint/etc)
1994 Dodge Stealth manual (covers ALL DS's)
1991
3000gt manual (covers 91-92 3k/DS cars)
1992-1996+ 3000gt manual (covers,
well you know :)
DSM technical manual (covers the T/E/L line, but applies to
the 3/s)
And whatever else will fit (if anything... these manuals are
HUGE! over
5000pages!. The T/E/L manuals weren't this thick!)
Just
got a USB HP scanner, and it does OK. Not as fast as I would like,
but this
one can detect paper jams unlike the scanner I used to scan the
DSM manuals.
It also has a better quality image, so the manuals will
turn out EVEN BETTER
than the T/E/L one.
The T/E/L manuals sell pretty well, dunno how these
will do, so for now,
they will ONLY BE AVAILABLE as a CD-R. If you happen to
have BOTH a 3/s
and a T/E/L, you can get BOTH CD's for $50, otherwise either
one
seperately is $35 (shipped priority express USPS)
I have had VERY
good feedback/comments on the T/E/L Cd, and believe that
this new 3/S CD
will be even better! Thanks for your interest!
Vineet Singh
DSM
Manuals on CD - http://manualcd.dsm.org
(you can get an
idea of what the 3/S CD will be like by checking out my
site) Thanks for
your interest! Please pass the word around :)
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Date:
Mon, 1 Feb 1999 17:44:02 -0500
From: "Trent" <rtrent@nlci.com>
Subject: Re: Team3S:
Budget fuel upgrade
Thanks Wayne,
I got the same adapter (I
assume) but the problem is the stock cat-back is
about 1/4" lower and 3/4"
off to one side. It's just to far off to force it
to fit. I
recently ordered a 3" flex stainless section to splice into the
DP.
Hope it works.
Regards,
DaveT/92TT
- -----Original
Message-----
From: TTurboAWD@aol.com
<TTurboAWD@aol.com>
To: stealth-3000gt@list.sirius.com
<stealth-3000gt@list.sirius.com>
Date:
Sunday, January 31, 1999 6:17 AM
Subject: Re: Team3S: Budget fuel
upgrade
> Trent,
> ATR
supplied me with a flange for their dp to hook it to
>the stock cat-back.
I got it,with the dp, through Mike at
>Altered Atmosphere
Motorsports.
>
Wayne 3SI
#87
>
'91 Stealth TT
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Date:
Mon, 1 Feb 1999 17:58:24 -0500
From: "Trent" <rtrent@nlci.com>
Subject: Re: Team3S:
Detonation
Errin H. inquired as to which turbos I was using for the
symtoms I described
earlier in some detail. I was running the 9B's at
that time. The symtoms
with the 13g's at 1.1bar, prior to injectors was
similar but in addition, I
started getting some fuel cut. I guessed
that the knock conditions had
gotten worse as a result of the 13g's pushing a
lot more air than the 9B's,
forcing the ECU to respond with more drastic
measures. It was at this point
that I decided to turn down the boost to
7psi until I got the new RC's in.
Regards
DaveT/92TT
Errin
wrote:
>When you noticed this acceleration drop-off "when going from
1.0 bar
>to 1.1 bar" was this with the 13G's or the 9B's?
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Date:
Mon, 01 Feb 1999 18:36:29 +0000
From: "J. Stephen Gula" <altoloco@widomaker.com>
Subject:
Team3S: Brake Pads, rotors, exhaust, boredom
Hey guys,
Was wondering a
few things since after owning my 95 3000GT for over a
year now (and about
13,000 miles)... the car is breaking down... so a
few recommendations if you
please:
(1) What kind of brake pads do you recommend? I've heard KVR
Carbon
Fibre pads are good, but they cause the rims to get prematurely
dirty
(compared to stock pads), which doesn't bother me. I bought
Purple
Power..
(2) Aftermarket clutch.. I don't have a superperformance
234345234hp
car.. I'm a measely NT w/ maybe 230hp right now. I want a cheap
(what
for our cars _is_ cheap?) but _good_ clutch. I've seen some
from
$250-$350 but don't know the difference.
(3) Brake rotors... ya,
they're going too... I'm not what you call a
light driver.. and I'm
intelligent enough to hose down the car after a
good long drive... hahaha
man.. lesson lived.. lesson learned...
(4) Aftermarket VR-4 exhaust on an
NT... whaddya say? Considering the
cost to have one _made_ or the $800 for a
Borla.... I'd rather slap a
VR-4 one on... what hazards am I risking or power
losses/gains? The way
I see it, if I match it with an openair filter, i'll
still lose lower
rpm power... but i'll gain in the high end (my normal
driving usually
doesn't involve stopping and having to go from stop to start
and i'm not
one for street races... well.. if you don't really try.. it's not
a race
right? whether you won or not?.. eheheh
- --Steve "Loco3KGT"
Gula
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Date:
Mon, 1 Feb 1999 15:48:53 -0800
From: Chris Winkley <cwinkley@plaza.ds.adp.com>
Subject:
RE: Team3S: Brake Pads, rotors, exhaust, boredom
- -----Original
Message-----
From: J. Stephen Gula [mailto:altoloco@widomaker.com]
Sent:
Monday, February 01, 1999 10:36 AM
To: stealth-3000gt@list.sirius.com
Subject:
Team3S: Brake Pads, rotors, exhaust, boredom
Hey guys,
Was
wondering a few things since after owning my 95 3000GT for over
a
year now
(and about 13,000 miles)... the car is breaking down... so a
few
recommendations if you please:
<snip>
- --Steve "Loco3KGT"
Gula
=============================================
Steve...
If
you're not running on the track, I'd stick with stock rotors, brake pads,
and
clutch. Mitsu really did a very good job for "normal" street and
highway
driving. BTW...even if you warped the rotors with water while they
were hot,
you should be able to have them turned. Maybe $20/rotor if you've
already
got the wheels and calipers off.
Perhaps Rich LeRoy will
volunteer on the VR4 exhaust on a NT, that's what he
has.
Looking
forward...Chris
1995 Glacier Pearl White VR4 (w/HKS Super Flo intake, HKS
SBOV, Predator dry
cell battery, bored and polished throttle body, Magnecore
8.5mm wires, HKS
double platinum plugs gapped at .034", GReddy PRofec A boost
controller,
GReddy turbo timer, ATR downpipe and test pipe, GReddy catback
exhaust,
Eibach 1" drop progressive springs)
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Date:
Mon, 01 Feb 1999 19:05:54 +0000
From: "J. Stephen Gula" <altoloco@widomaker.com>
Subject:
Re: Team3S: Brake Pads, rotors, exhaust, boredom
> If you're not
running on the track, I'd stick with stock rotors, brake pads,
> and
clutch. Mitsu really did a very good job for "normal" street and highway
>
driving. BTW...even if you warped the rotors with water while they were
hot,
> you should be able to have them turned. Maybe $20/rotor if you've
already
> got the wheels and calipers off.
That's the funny part..
they _have_ to be replaced.. the rotors are
warped the pads are wearing down
and the clutch is slipping.. life is
grand.. get a helmet..
- --Steve
"Loco3KGT" Gula
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Date:
Mon, 01 Feb 1999 20:09:41 -0500
From: Michael Booker <mrbook@gate.net>
Subject: Re: Team3S:
Brake Pads, rotors, exhaust,
boredom
> (4)
Aftermarket VR-4 exhaust on an NT... whaddya say? Considering the
> cost
to have one _made_ or the $800 for a Borla.... I'd rather slap a
> VR-4
one on... what hazards am I risking or power losses/gains? The way
> I see
it, if I match it with an openair filter, i'll still lose lower
> rpm
power... but i'll gain in the high end (my normal driving usually
>
doesn't involve stopping and having to go from stop to start and i'm not
>
one for street races... well.. if you don't really try.. it's not a race
>
right? whether you won or not?.. eheheh
I can add that a 93 VR-4 exhaust
wouldn't bolt right up to my Stealth
R/T. I used the 3" pipe from the
converter, and had the rest fabricated,
namely a y that is 2 1/2" that goes
out to 2 dual chrome ansa tips.
total cost-400 bucks installed. It is loud!!!
Borderline illegal loud,
but sounds very good and does give the high end
power you are seeking.
You will lose low end torque, no doubt, but the kick
in the seat from
4000 rpm up is very noticeable!! And you get better gas
mileage!!! What
else could you ask for?
Matt
3/Si #311
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Date:
Mon, 1 Feb 1999 20:32:00 -0500
From: "Russell A. Coxe" <rcoxe@erols.com>
Subject: Re: Team3S:
Brake Pads, rotors, exhaust, boredom
Steve,
Sorry to hear that you
are now in the maintenance cycle that comes with all
cars.
I'm sure you
remember that we both have the same cars, I currently have 33K
on mine.
So
I have not had to do all of these repairs yet, but I have been thinking
about
it some. :)
> (1) What kind of brake pads do you recommend?
I
like the Stillen metal matrix pads. They are very clean and the car stops
a
lot better than
the stock pads.
> (2) Aftermarket clutch..
I
think the stock clutch is the best way to go. We don't make that much
power
to need the ACT2600 or
similar. The stock is a good compromise.
>
(3) Brake rotors...
I have the Stillen cross drilled and they have
performed quite well. I
warped the stock rotors twice
before replacing
them. The power slot rotors also look nice, I may put them
on the
eclipse.
> (4) Aftermarket VR-4 exhaust on an NT... whaddya
say?
I think the weight and the complexity of the active exhaust
componets make
this a less apealing
solution.
I would recommend the 60
mm diameter HKS VR4 first and then the Borla as my
second choice.
I have
not done the exhaust upgrade as I was waiting on headers from Brian
at GT
Alley, but we
all know that story.
I'm very surprised that the stock
is worn out. I would ask your dealer to
take a look at it. The SS
system
should out last the car.
- - Russ Coxe
1995 3000GT MD
"3KGT"
1995 Eclipse GSX-AT
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Date:
Mon, 01 Feb 1999 19:03:40 -0800
From: Rich <rleroy@pacifier.com>
Subject:
Team3S: TT Exhaust on an NT Car (Was: Brake Pads, rotors, exhaust,
boredom)
Wow, a NT thread .... I think I'll add to it. :) The
TT exhaust *does*
directly bolt up (I have a TT exhaust from James R.'s 92
R/T TT on my 94
R/T), but the fit isn't perfect. I think this is what
Matt is alluding
to.
The NT cars have a lower positioned lower
arm bracket than the TT's do,
such that the rear exhaust section tends to
bump into it when you hit a
bump in the road. This can be offset to a
degree by not fully seating
the yoke into the 3" center straight
section. There *is* about an inch
of play before you get a leak at this
joint, but you have to go easy,
and the darn thing is heavy unless you have
helpers. Another "trick" I
had to use was to not tighten the cat
crossmember (but had bolted the
exhaust sections together) until I had pulled
the entire exhaust
rearward enough to clear the lower suspension arm bracket
and bolted up
the rear-most hangers. There is *just* enough play in the
system to
pull this off, but that's it.
All in all, the TT exhaust is
a fairly low-cost "mod", in that the mid
and upper range response is
immediately noticeably improved, but at the
cost of some low end
response. The fact that it just sounds bitchin' is
a plus in my
book. Actual dollar cost was about $20 for the
additional
passenger-side hangers I didn't originally have. The exhaust
was a
freebie, but I've heard some folks have paid up to $100 to TT owners
who
were upgrading to aftermarket. Still cheap, IMO.
After
saying all this, when I get the discretionary kopeks for the car,
a fully
custom exhaust is going on the car ... strictly for off-road
use, of
course. This was a quickie poor-man's solution to wanting dual
exhaust
without paying through the nose for it. The improved
performance, sound
and mileage were gravy and certainly worth the
scraped knuckles and achey
back.
Rich
Michael Booker wrote:
>
>
> (4) Aftermarket VR-4
exhaust on an NT... whaddya say?
<snip>
> I can add that
a 93 VR-4 exhaust wouldn't bolt right up to my Stealth
> R/T. I used the
3" pipe from the converter, and had the rest fabricated,
> namely a y that
is 2 1/2" that goes out to 2 dual chrome ansa tips.
> total cost-400 bucks
installed. It is loud!!! Borderline illegal loud,
> but sounds very good
and does give the high end power you are seeking.
> You will lose low end
torque, no doubt, but the kick in the seat from
> 4000 rpm up is very
noticeable!! And you get better gas mileage!!! What
> else could you ask
for?
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Date:
Tue, 02 Feb 1999 00:02:09 -0500
From: Kermit Burroughs <kermitb@richmond.infi.net>
Subject:
Re: Team3S: Brake Pads, rotors, exhaust, boredom
"J. Stephen Gula"
wrote:
Why don't I just make you a deal on mine? Then you can have
the horsepower, too?
I'd just stick with stock if I were you. Of
course, I don't know how you drive, but I
would think the brakes might help,
but at 57k miles, I'm only on set 2 of the front
pads, and original
rears. Good bang for buck.
Exhaust? Hmm, I'm not sure I'd do
that heavy TT one, I think I'd find a muffler shop
that'll do one for
you. Just MHO. Naturally that files in the face of what I
did,
but...
Kermit
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