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Team3S Digest       Wednesday, January 27 1999       Volume 01 : Number 084




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Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1999 10:24:20 -0500
From: "Bob Rand" <rtr@vnet.net>
Subject: Team3S: Re: POTHOLES!!!

The interstate system is controlled by the federal government (at least
funds wise.)

Also negotiate with your insurance company to take care of this claim under
your comprehensive coverage.  This way they do not count it as an accident
claim and it will have no impact on your rates.

- -----Original Message-----
From: Bill Davis <b-davis@primary.net>
To: stealth@starnet.net <stealth@starnet.net>; stealth@dragnet.com
<stealth@dragnet.com>; stealth-3000gt@list.sirius.com
<stealth-3000gt@list.sirius.com>
Date: Monday, January 25, 1999 8:24 AM
Subject: POTHOLES!!!


>Well Saturday, around noon, I was driving I-40 Eastbound, in St. Louis,
>around 141 Mason Rd. area,(St. Louis guys know where), far left lane.
>I was doing about 60, because the road was wet from the abnormal
>snow we had that morning. I hit this series of potholes, almost lost
>control of my car, damn near threw me into the next lane.
>
>All of a sudden my ECS light starts flashing, I pull over to have a
>look.
>My left front wheel, and tire are completely destroyed, my left rear
>wheel
>is damaged, and apparently my left front strut is damaged.
>
>I have called the highway dept. to find out if they will pay to have the
>car
>repaired. Does anyone know anything about these type of issues?
>On Saturday I called the St Louis Co. dept of trans, and they told me
>if the road was one that they maintain, that they do indeed pay for the
>damage.
>Unfortunately they dont maintain I-40.
>
>Advice, information, on any similar experiences would be much
>appreciated.
>
>If anyone has one 6 spoke 18"  chrome rim for sale, I suppose I may be
>in the
>market by this afternoon. I have little faith in the state taking
>responsibility for this.
>
>Bill Davis Lame 95 VR-4
>
>

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Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1999 07:23:48 -0800
From: wce@bc.sympatico.ca
Subject: Re: Team3S: EGT Temperatures

Jack;

You wrote:

> This can be two things...
> 1)  too lean.  Get rich.  Buy bigger injectors/an AFC.  Or, sit tight,
> stare at wall, and keep repeating "LEAN IS MEAN"...
> 2)  very retarded timing: your gas hasn't enough octane for the boost
> you are running-->you are detonating--> knock sensor is doing the
> Cucaracha-->ignition timing retarding to stone age, and some gas is
> still burning/BLOWTORCHING while shot into the exhaust manifold.  Use
> higher octane gas.  I have seen a drop of 100F anecdotally using race
> gas 114 octane, vs.  crappy "reformulated" (oxygenated with MTBE or
> Ethanol) gas peddled around my area due to draconian and frequently
> anti-scientific environmental laws which are making my environment way
> too clean for me to live HAPPILY  :)
>

Have you revisited water injection as a fix for this? It seems that a good WI system
(Barry mentioned some months back) might be a reasonable solution to a problem that is
not going away with bigger injectors, better gas, new computers, bigger turbos, etc. It
just may make things last a lot longer...using of course, "distilled" water whenever
possible for less corrosive effects. Thoughts? Anyone out there  fitted their car with
one?

Best

Darc

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Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1999 10:09:37 -0600
From: Wayne <wala@hypertech-inc.com>
Subject: Team3S: Fog lights & Snakeyes

This message is for Mike, the guy who is having problems with his snakeye mod.

I noticed somebody posted the foglight mod as a remedy to you're problem
with the snakeye mod. The reason i'm replying to this is because i am the
originator/creator of the foglight mod. This modification was NOT intended
to be a "fix" for the snakeyes mod, as i have not even seen the snake mod,
and i dont know which wires were modified. If you would like further help
with getting your fog lights working, send me a copy of the snake
instructions, and i will see if i can provive some insight as to why it
causes the foglights to stop working, or if my fog light mod will do it for
you.

Wayne
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Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1999 14:58:56 EST
From: Lomcevak@aol.com
Subject: Re: Team3S: Mitsu Engines and Clutches

     Hello all,

<< This site has remanufactured Mitsubishi engines with a 5 year 50,000 mile
 warranty: http://www.quality-import-parts.com/mitsmain.htm>>
 
  This is not meant to discredit Steve's post by any means ( I am always for
sharing new information), but I have learned alot about 91-93 nonturbo engines
while rebuilding mine, and this company lists the remanufactured engine for
$3500. A factory NEW engine can be had through West Broad Mitsubishi (with the
list discounts) for about the same price, actually about a hundred bucks less.
  ANother thing that bothers me about the advertisement is that they state
that they grind the crankshaft and use aftermarket bearings - both are bad
ideas with the 6G72 engine, IMO.
 
  Again, I only mean to offer what I think is a better option (new vs.
remanufactured) and hope to help others avoid the mistakes I made.

     SteveC
     '91 3000GT SL 
     Lomcevak@aol.com
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Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1999 15:30:45 EST
From: Dskull@aol.com
Subject: Team3S: Modification Recommendations

Hi , I have been on this list for a short while and have read every piece of
archived, web, vendor info I can find. I own a 93 VR4 with a K&N FIPK,
Magnacor wires, plugs gapped at 32, Blitz boost controller running around
1.15 / 1.20 peak, GAB shocks, H&R springs, Road Race rear tower bar,
slotted front rotors, PF 80 pads. I don't drag race it. I DO road race it at
Pocono, Lime Rock, and Watkins Glen. If you were at this point in mods what
would you do next for HP gains, keeping in mind that the turbo's are almost
alway spooled up road racing. Would you go for fuel management, or exhaust,
or turbo's, or injectors, or fuel pump, or intercoolers, etc. Please include
why you would do a upgrade and in what order. Sorry for the long post, but I
want to get the biggest bang (sic) for the buck, without changing directions 5
times to get there.

   Dave Skultety - 1st corner near home is TURN 1
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Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1999 14:58:43 -0600
From: "Brad Bedell" <bbedell@austin.rr.com>
Subject: RE: Team3S: Modification Recommendations

Do something with the brakes, keep that thing off the wall.

How do you like the rear tower bar? Did it help/make any noticeable
difference?

Check out the brake kit I put together for my car on my web site.
(still very happy with them), no warps or fading.

> Brad
Member of ESSC since 1999>
> Check out my home page:    http://lonestar.texas.net/~bbedell
> E-Mail: bbedell@austin.rr.com ICQ#  3612682


- -----Original Message-----
From: owner-stealth-3000gt@list.sirius.com
[mailto:owner-stealth-3000gt@list.sirius.com] On Behalf Of Dskull@aol.com
Sent: Tuesday, January 26, 1999 2:31 PM
To: stealth-3000gt@list.sirius.com
Subject: Team3S: Modification Recommendations

Hi , I have been on this list for a short while and have read every piece of
archived, web, vendor info I can find. I own a 93 VR4 with a K&N FIPK,
Magnacor wires, plugs gapped at 32, Blitz boost controller running around
1.15 / 1.20 peak, GAB shocks, H&R springs, Road Race rear tower bar,
slotted front rotors, PF 80 pads. I don't drag race it. I DO road race it at
Pocono, Lime Rock, and Watkins Glen. If you were at this point in mods what
would you do next for HP gains, keeping in mind that the turbo's are almost
alway spooled up road racing. Would you go for fuel management, or exhaust,
or turbo's, or injectors, or fuel pump, or intercoolers, etc. Please include
why you would do a upgrade and in what order. Sorry for the long post, but I
want to get the biggest bang (sic) for the buck, without changing directions
5
times to get there.

   Dave Skultety - 1st corner near home is TURN 1
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Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1999 13:08:49 -0800
From: Chris Winkley <cwinkley@plaza.ds.adp.com>
Subject: RE: Team3S: Modification Recommendations

- -----Original Message-----
From: Dskull@aol.com [mailto:Dskull@aol.com]
Sent: Tuesday, January 26, 1999 12:31 PM
To: stealth-3000gt@list.sirius.com
Subject: Team3S: Modification Recommendations

<snip>
 If you were at this point in mods what
would you do next for HP gains, keeping in mind that the turbo's are almost
alway spooled up road racing. Would you go for fuel management, or exhaust,
or turbo's, or injectors, or fuel pump, or intercoolers, etc. Please include
why you would do a upgrade and in what order. <snip>

Dave Skultety - 1st corner near home is TURN 1
===================================
Dave...

1. Do the exhaust. You're not coming close to realizing the potential of the
turbos with a stock exhaust. Replace it all, from the precats back. Lengthy
discussions have been had about various mfg versus custom. Probably personal
preference once you've made the decision to open up the flow.
2. Larger turbos. BIG step and should wait until the exhaust is done. BIG
why? Because the entire package (turbos, fuel pump, injectors, intercoolers,
fuel management system) should really be done at once, not a piece at a
time.

GOOD LUCK!!!

Looking forward...Chris

1995 Glacier Pearl White VR4 (w/HKS Super Flo intake, HKS SBOV, Predator dry
cell battery, bored and polished throttle body, Magnecore 8.5mm wires, HKS
double platinum plugs gapped at .034", GReddy PRofec A boost controller,
GReddy turbo timer, ATR downpipe and test pipe, GReddy catback exhaust,
Eibach 1" drop progressive springs)
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Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1999 16:13:09 EST
From: Aso8@aol.com
Subject: Re: Team3S: Modification Recommendations

I'd go for removing all 3 cats with a larger ATR downpipe to spool the turbos
quicker.
The actual exhaust won't be a restriction until you go to 15G turbos - then
I'd get the Borla exhaust. Then I'd go for the entire intercooler upgrade,
pipes & all.
Cooler temps equal more HP.
Arty 91 VR-4

In a message dated 1/26/99 12:35:02 PM Pacific Standard Time, Dskull@aol.com
writes:

<< Subj: Team3S: Modification Recommendations
 Date: 1/26/99 12:35:02 PM Pacific Standard Time
 From: Dskull@aol.com
 Sender: owner-stealth-3000gt@list.sirius.com
 Reply-to: stealth-3000gt@list.sirius.com
 To: stealth-3000gt@list.sirius.com
 
 Hi , I have been on this list for a short while and have read every piece of
 archived, web, vendor info I can find. I own a 93 VR4 with a K&N FIPK,
 Magnacor wires, plugs gapped at 32, Blitz boost controller running around
 1.15 / 1.20 peak, GAB shocks, H&R springs, Road Race rear tower bar,
 slotted front rotors, PF 80 pads. I don't drag race it. I DO road race it at
 Pocono, Lime Rock, and Watkins Glen. If you were at this point in mods what
 would you do next for HP gains, keeping in mind that the turbo's are almost
 alway spooled up road racing. Would you go for fuel management, or exhaust,
 or turbo's, or injectors, or fuel pump, or intercoolers, etc. Please include
 why you would do a upgrade and in what order. Sorry for the long post, but I
 want to get the biggest bang (sic) for the buck, without changing directions
5
 times to get there.
 
    Dave Skultety - 1st corner near home is TURN 1
  >>
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Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1999 22:28:16 +0100
From: Mike Chapleski <mike.chapleski@ibm.net>
Subject: Re: Team3S: EGT Temperatures

> This can be two things...
> 1)  too lean.  Get rich.  Buy bigger injectors/an AFC.  Or, sit tight,
> stare at wall, and keep repeating "LEAN IS MEAN"...

    If this is the case, then that means the stock injectors cannot handle the fuel at
the higher boost levels.  I guess this is not a big problem for drag racing (short
spurts), but over here on the Autobahns, where I can easily hold boost for several
miles, I am probably pushing the engine too hard.   I have been holding out on
purchasing injectors/15-17gs/AFC till my warrantee runs out, but I may have to speed up
my modification schedule

>
> 2)  very retarded timing: your gas hasn't enough octane for the boost
> you are running-->you are detonating--> knock sensor is doing the
> Cucaracha-->ignition timing retarding to stone age, and some gas is
> still burning/BLOWTORCHING while shot into the exhaust manifold.  Use
> higher octane gas.  I have seen a drop of 100F anecdotally using race
> gas 114 octane,

    This is also a problem.  The highest octane we can get here is 93, which is what I
was using when I did these runs.

    Sounds like parts of 1 & 2 above are causing a bigger problem.  I guess I need to
play with the boost/EGT/MPH/RPM a little more to see if I can isolate the problem.  One
more thing, I have not gutted my pre-cats.  Mainly because I have no idea how the
Germans do their emissions tests.  The procedure is I drop the car off in the morning
and it is ready in the afternoon.  With the way German laws are, if I fail, I could end
up having to give up my first born to get my car back.
    Well it looks like I have some homework to do here.  I am now really glad I got this
gauge.  I have had this "feeling" that the engine is right at the edge and now I know.

Thanks,

Mike
0018
'95 Stealth RT TT

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Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1999 17:28:39 -0500
From: "Trent" <rtrent@nlci.com>
Subject: Re: Team3S: Modification Recommendations

First, save your engine!  Install an EGT

>1. Do the exhaust. You're not coming close to realizing the potential of
the
>turbos with a stock exhaust. Replace it all, from the precats back. Lengthy
>discussions have been had about various mfg versus custom. Probably
personal
>preference once you've made the decision to open up the flow.

I've been running 13g's @ 18psi with stock exhaust and downpipe, BOV, and
intercoolers.  If the stock exhaust were a restriction, the 13g's wouldn't
be holding boost.  If your already running a boost controller, you will see
more power by switching to 500 or 550cc injectors.  This also requires a
fuel pump upgrade and fuel controller i.e. Apex AFC.  The whole thing can be
done for a few hundred more then the price of a downpipe and cat back
system.

>2. Larger turbos.

13g's can be had from TEC for around 1500.00 or less than the price of an
intercooler system.  13g's or 15g's are designed to run high boost more
efficiently resulting in lower air temp.  Aftermarket intercoolers will make
little if any difference for short runs.  As for road racing, I've yet to
here if they make much difference, I have my doubts.

Regards,
DaveT/92TT (Vendors never return my calls)

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Date: Wed, 27 Jan 1999 04:05:22 +0100
From: Kevin Clark <Kevin.Clark@hnz.co.nz>
Subject: Team3S: Ouput shaft in the '91-'92 Transmissions...

> Hmm... Was running low on the good stuff (gas) and decided
> to head into a petrol station.  On my way in I notice a
> fairly audible BANG! and seem to have lost all gears...

Well, it seems that the big bang was the output shaft being
destroyed.  It seems that there was a good reason to improve
this in the '93 and up models   :)

They have pulled it apart, but are not able to give me an
estimate of how long it will take to fix for at least a
week.  I think they are tossing up the cost of replacement
vs the cost of fixing...

Hmm... looks like I will spending a little more time around
the flat over the next few weeks   :(

Cheers,
Kevin Clark
'91 GTO-VR4
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Date: Wed, 27 Jan 1999 04:19:05 +0100
From: Matthews <matthews@wiesbaden.netsurf.de>
Subject: Team3S: HP Contest!

Mike Chapleski wrote:
>
>     As Jim eluded to in a previous post, Jim Matthews, Roger Gerl
> and I are meeting in Zurich, Switzerland on Monday to strap our
> cars to an AWD dyno.  Since Roger is the only one that has done this
> in the past, both Jim and I are really looking forward to what our
> cars are really at.  We plan to share all the info with the list so
> hopefully this will allow everyone to better interpolate what their
> HP really is.
>     So in going with that we have decided to have a little contest
> on what everyone thinks the HP is for each of our cars.  Please
> send your guesses/predictions to us personnaly so we don't clog the
> list.

We will summarize your guesses when we post the results.  Our Email
addresses are as follows:

Mike Chapleski <mike.chapleski@ibm.net>
Jim Matthews <matthews@wiesbaden.netsurf.de>
Roger Gerl <robby@swissonline.ch>


Mike's mods:

'95 Stealth RT TT
22k miles

Intake
K&N

Exhaust
Borla Cat Back
test pipe
Alamo downpipe
pre-cat fully functional

Engine
Magnecor wires
Blitz DSBC  set at 14 psi
Apexi EGT probe clogging front exhaust manifold
Stock turbos

Drivetrain
Mobil 1 10W030 oil
BG Syncroshift in transaxle
Redline Heavy in Transfer case
Centerforce DF clutch

Gas is 93 octane (highest we can get in Europe)
I have the plugs gapped at .042.  I plan to do a baseline run with this
setup, then while Roger and Jim are setting up, I will regap to .032 and
do another run.


Jim's mods (that would impact power), all made at 50k miles:

'94 Stealth R/T TT
68k miles

Intake
K&N FIPK

Exhaust
100% stock

Engine
Magnecor wires
Plugs gapped to .034
A'PEXi SAVC-R set at 1.0 bar

Lubrication
Mobil 1 10W30 synthetic motor oil
Redline ShockProof Light in transaxle
Redline ShockProof Heavy in Transfer case

Fuel
93 octane (highest available in Europe)


Roger is out of town so I won't guess at his current mods (not sure what
he ended up with after the rebuild and the GT Alley fiasco), but his
last dyno session was 397 hp with the Blitz DSBC set at 1.05 bar.


Jim's guesses:

Roger = 405
Mike  = 395
Jim   = 375

Good luck!  :-)

- --
Jim Matthews - Wiesbaden, Germany
matthews@wiesbaden.netsurf.de (64 Kbps ISDN)
http://rover.wiesbaden.netsurf.de/~matthews

*** 3000GT-Stealth International (3Si) Member #0030 ***
http://rover.wiesbaden.netsurf.de/~matthews/stealth.html
Jet Black '94 Dodge Stealth R/T Twin-Turbo AWD AWS 6-spd
Adjustable Active Suspension, Adjustable Exhaust System
K&N FIPK, A'PEXi Super AVC-R (1.0 bar @ 70/84% BADC)
A'PEXi Turbo Timer (30 sec), Blitz Blow-Off Valve
Magnecore spark plug wires, Redline ShockProof fluids
Metal Matrix brake pads, custom braided brake lines
Michelin Pilot XGT-Z4 245/45ZR17, TS (so far): 166mph
G-Tech Pro: 0-60 4.79 sec, 1/4 13.16 sec @ 113.9 mph

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Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1999 22:21:48 -0600
From: ebk@advant.com (Katz, Eric)
Subject: Team3S: Newby modification questions

Hello all,
    I'm a brand spanking new list member-just found the list a couple of
days ago. I have a '92 VR4 which is completely stock. It's interesting that
all the "quirks" my car has developed seem to be common problems in the
archives. Anyway, it's nice to have found this excellent resource. I will
try to take advantage of it now by asking the following questions:
I am interested in participating in the group purchase for the Altered
Atmosphere Motorsports air intake. Are the filters reusable like the K&Ns?
Is there much of an increase in noise? In GM turbo cars a less restrictive
intake usually results in "turbo chatter", but if I am not mistaken, these
cars have a "sneeze valve" which should prevent that(?) Thanks very much
for the info.



                                      Eric H. Katz
                                      ebk@advant.com
                                      '86 Grand National
                                      '92 Mitsubishi 3000GT VR4
                                      '92 Typhoon-Black #1440
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Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1999 23:24:34 -0500
From: josesini <josesini@engin.umich.edu>
Subject: Team3S: Tranny Mod - BRE Engines

The following was posted on the DSM digest.  Could this company (BRE
Engines) help us as well?

Maybe some one who lives near San Jose, CA can go and talk to BRE and
find out.

Jose

Original message folllows:--------------------------------------------

Date:    26 Jan 1999 11:45:10 -0600
From:    Vernon Naidoo <venaidoo@dttus.com>
Subject: Tranny mod - BRE Engines
Message-ID: <#30>

Hi All,

In the last week or so I've noticed a couple of emails complaining
about the crappy AWD transmissions. I thought I introduce those
interested to a company called BRE Engines (San Jose, CA), which does
a nice mod on DSM transmissions that eliminates almost all that
crappiness (if such a word exists). I was out in California two
weekends back, and had a chance to test drive a '91 Talon that had
just come out of BRE Engines shop, and I must admit that I was very
impressed. Jeff, the owner, assured me that I could shift as fast as I
wanted to, and at any rpm, and will never have a problem. My test
drive could not prove him wrong.

Jeff is known for almost all the work on David Shih's Honda, and is
currently helping Todd Chaimparino with his '91 Eclipse to achieve
some similar HP.  Todd currently boasts BRE Engines tranny mod, and
has already made a couple of 12s test passes at the track with no
complaints. If anyone is interested, contact Jeff at (408) 995-5750. I
cannot give out any pricing info, as I got a special offer (friend of
Todd's). I also cannot say what Jeff does to the tranny, vendor
courtesy, but one can speculate.

I will be happy with a change in the tranny, as I've lost too many
races because of a missed shift.

Vernon Naidoo.
'91 Talon AWD

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Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1999 20:33:28 -0800
From: "Bob Forrest" <bf@bobforrest.com>
Subject: Team3S: ADMIN NOTICE - Please READ and SAVE...

To all Team3S list subscribers:

Some questions have been raised about the suspension of members from the
list -- both as to WHAT are the operating criteria for such removals and WHO
is "running the ship", so to speak.

The seven subscribers who formed and oversee this list operate as one, with
equal authority and access to the software, and a common goal of making sure
that all of the information that is posted here is of a technical nature
pertaining to the Stealth and 3000GT.  We collaborate on all administrative
chores, and whoever originates an idea posts it, although we all have a
"hand" in the wording.  We chose to create a technical list without flames,
chat, or fluff, and we listed a set of standards which each member is
expected to respect.

In keeping with that goal, we try to minimize admin posts going out to the
list that are unrelated, including the workings of the list itself, and open
discussions about the removal of those who have chosen not to adhere to the
rules, etc...  We keep those discussions private to insure that we ourselves
follow those rules and only post technical information about the cars.  We
appreciate that questions to we 7 "administrators" have been made privately,
and that you all have shown concern for keeping this list "clean".

From time to time, members will make mistakes, with a post going out
accidentally, or we forget to turn off HTML used in a previous email
session; we admins make those mistakes too, so we assume that the occasional
posting error was inadvertent.  But subscribers who blatantly and repeatedly
disregard the rules are sent a polite reminder (by whichever one of the
admins that happens to notice the violation) to please correct the
situation.  Also, there are times that we admins don't notice a problem, and
one of you suggests that we give it our attention.

In this most recent case of a listmember being removed, several of you
alerted us beforehand that he had a tendency on other lists to bait members
and attempt to create heated arguments; still other members objected when he
actually sent that "kind" of inflammatory post.  Such behavior is not
acceptable on this list, so after an admin sent him a polite warning, (and
his response included the phrase "...you will not get me to kiss your
ass..."), it was obvious that this individual did not belong on a
"gentleman's list" (gentleperson's list?), and he was removed.  He made his
choice; we simply implemented the rules.

For any questions you may have of all of us, you may reach us at:

owner-stealth-3000gt@list.sirius.com ,

or you may reach us individually at:

BOB Forrest, San Francisco, CA, USA  bf@bobforrest.com
CHRIS Winkley, Portland, OR, USA  cwinkley@plaza.ds.adp.com
DARCY Gunnlaugson, Victoria, B.C., CANADA  wce@bc.sympatico.ca
JIM Matthews, Wiesbaden, GERMANY  matthews@wiesbaden.netsurf.de
MIKAEL Akesson, Stockholm, SWEDEN  vr4@bahnhof.se
RICH Leroy, Ridgefield, WA, USA  rleroy@pacifier.com
ROGER Gerl, Zurich, SWITZERLAND  robby@swissonline.ch

Thank you for your attention,


Bob Forrest
Admin, Team3S


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Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1999 21:01:41 -0800
From: wce@bc.sympatico.ca
Subject: Re: Team3S: Ouput shaft in the '91-'92 Transmissions...

Hey Kevin;

At least one aftermarket maker of the output shaft (Italian) is now available (see the
Summation on Getrag posting) and I believe someone else posted to group awhile back
indicating another maker in the USA was producing aftermarket as well. Maybe if they're
listening they could post back.

Best

Darc

Kevin Clark wrote:

> > Hmm... Was running low on the good stuff (gas) and decided
> > to head into a petrol station.  On my way in I notice a
> > fairly audible BANG! and seem to have lost all gears...
>
> Well, it seems that the big bang was the output shaft being
> destroyed.  It seems that there was a good reason to improve
> this in the '93 and up models   :)
>
> They have pulled it apart, but are not able to give me an
> estimate of how long it will take to fix for at least a
> week.  I think they are tossing up the cost of replacement
> vs the cost of fixing...
>
> Hmm... looks like I will spending a little more time around
> the flat over the next few weeks   :(
>
> Cheers,
> Kevin Clark
> '91 GTO-VR4



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Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1999 21:34:11 -0800
From: "Jose Soriano" <amahoser@linkline.com>
Subject: Re: Team3S: Newby modification questions

>I am interested in participating in the group purchase for the Altered
>Atmosphere Motorsports air intake. Are the filters reusable like the K&Ns?
>Is there much of an increase in noise? In GM turbo cars a less restrictive
>intake usually results in "turbo chatter", >


Welcome!
I have a K&N FIPK filter in my 91 RT/TT and I have not noticed any turbo
chatter noise. Also air intake in the group prurchase uses the exact same
element that K&N uses. K&N manufactures the element for this and other
aftermarket filters. I believe that the intake is the same as the K&N except
that the center is cut out and has more filter area there (to increase
airflow..... or so they say).
On another note, if you are looking for modification advice, check out
www.nexusmotorsports.com . They have a section on the Stealth/3000GT. Go to
"SALES" and click on our car. At the bottom of the list, they have a "Staged
Upgrades" section that I find very helpful. And www.3000GT.com has a
modifications section that lists many performance upgrades and explains
them. These two web resources help me understand my turbocharged car since
this is my first one.

Hope This Helps!
Jose Soriano
Amahoser@Linkline.com



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Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1999 23:30:27 -0600
From: "Oskar" <swede@pclink.com>
Subject: Team3S: '95 R/T TT mods (hp contest)

Mike,

I noticed you've got some of the same mods I have and am planning for my '95
R/T TT.  I currently have K&N FIPK, Magnecore wires and NGK plugs.  The
plugs and wires will go on the car anyday now.  I plan to gap the plugs at
.034.

I am looking for the next hp mod, which in my case will be a boost
controller.  I'm having a hard time deciding on exhaust.  There are so many
different theories out there regarding the value of upgrading the stock
exhaust.  I know Jim M. is of the belief that this does not make a
difference.  So, now that I see what mods you've got I must ask your
opinion.  Do you see an improvement compared to stock?  Do you think that
cat-back alone will matter?

Maybe you will know more after comparing to Jim's car on the dyno!

Enjoy the dyno session - should be a learning experience.  I'm curious to
see what the re-gapping of the plugs yield!!

BTW - I don't know what you've got for brakes.  Personally I was unhappy
with the factory brakes.  My front rotors were warped, not to mention poor
stopping power.  I always have wanted cross drilled rotors and that is what
I just ordered.  For $717 I got the following shipped to Minnesota:
4 cross drilled Stillen rotors
Front/rear sets of Metal matrix pads
Stillen/Goodridge braided brake lines

A pretty good price!  I got them from Alamo Motorsports.

Thanks,
Oskar
Pearl White 95 R/T TT
31k miles

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Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1999 23:37:33 -0600
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Subject: Team3S: Ouch!

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Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1999 21:54:35 -0800
From: Kyle Patton <smite@home.com>
Subject: Team3S: spring spacers

I need some spacers to stiffen up my rear springs for launching. Where
can I obtain some? How exactly do I use them? I'm getting a g-tech and I
want to work on my 60 ft. times. Thanks


Kyle
black '94 3000GT base
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Date: Wed, 27 Jan 1999 08:44:16 -0500 (EST)
From: Dennis Moore <stealth@kiva.net>
Subject: Team3S: Stealth Brakes Question

Hi All,

My car has ~102K miles on it, and I'm still using the brakes that were on
it when I bought it at ~12K.  I've had them inspected every time I take
the car in to fix a tire (I seem to pick up lots of nails), get the tires
rotated, etc, which is about every 3-6K.  Every time, they report "plenty
of meat on there", and that the brakes are fine.

I don't have any indications that this isn't so, but I'm kinda leary of
the idea of running on brakes that "seasoned".  So here, finally, are the
questions: do any of you have similar mileage on your brakes?  (I know
some of you go through a set of pads in a weekend at the track...)  Should
I be more skeptical of the folks who have looked at them?  I haven't
checked them myself - never taken apart brakes on a car, any Hoosiers out
there willing to help me?

Dennis Moore
stealth@kiva.net
93 Stealth ES

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them to where you can't find them.


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Date: Wed, 27 Jan 1999 08:56:01 -0600
From: "Gendron, Curt" <Curt.Gendron@westgroup.com>
Subject: Team3S: Advice needed on boost gauge installation

Hi everyone,

I just got my Autometer boost gauge in the mail yesterday, but I'm
scratching my head on one thing.  The fittings that were included don't
contain a T connector.  All of the pictures I've seen of 3/S cars with
gauges or controllers have a T connector to tap into the hose.  Can I buy a
universal T connector from Wal-Mart in the Aquarium department?  Or do I
need to buy a T connector from Autometer??  Or am I missing something
obvious?  The connectors that are supplied are all threaded and look way to
wide.  Please reply to me privately and to the list, because I subscribe to
the digest and I want to figure this problem as quickly as possible.

Thanks,
Curt G
95 R/T TT
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Date: Wed, 27 Jan 1999 08:47:32 -0600
From: Wayne <wala@hypertech-inc.com>
Subject: Re: Team3S: Ouput shaft in the '91-'92 Transmissions...

At 09:01 PM 1/26/99 -0800, you wrote:
>Hey Kevin;
> I believe someone else posted to group
>awhile back
>indicating another maker in the USA was producing aftermarket as well. Maybe
>if they're
>listening they could post back.

Yes, i am listening. The place you need to contact if you want one is East
street auto.
Phone;  901-774-5374
Talk to Jim and please tell him i told you about this deal.
I believe he is getting $400 for each piece.
Later

Wayne


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Date: Wed, 27 Jan 1999 10:11:54 -0500
From: "Nexus Motorsports" <nexus@alleyesonme.com>
Subject: Re: Team3S: Advice needed on boost gauge installation

>I just got my Autometer boost gauge in the mail yesterday, but I'm
>scratching my head on one thing.  The fittings that were included don't
>contain a T connector.

You can buy a 4mm or 6mm (depending on what size vacuum hose you plan on
using) from any local auto parts store such as AutoZone or PepBoys.  A
standard size like 5/32 is fine.  Also make sure to use zip ties and tie up
the hose connecting to the T fitting.  Most of the fittings you'll find in
parts store is made out of plastic.  Try and find the strongest or thickest
plastic fitting you can.  We see a lot of cars here at the shop where an old
plastic fitting just breaks off the hose at the slightest touch due to heat
deterioration and old age.  It's a pain when we are trying to move things
like a boost gauge vacuum hose around for a new boost controller or such.
That's why we don't even use the plastic fitting supplied with the various
boost controllers and gauges here at the shop anymore.  The best fitting to
get is the ones made out of brass.  They are pricey, but I think they are
worth it in the long run.

Chien
Nexus Motorsports      Import Performance Parts Specialists
http://www.nexusmotorsports.com
Phone: (301) 631-9210
Fax: (301) 631-9211




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Date: Wed, 27 Jan 1999 09:24:06 -0600
From: Wayne <wala@hypertech-inc.com>
Subject: Re: Team3S: Stealth Brakes Question

At 08:44 AM 1/27/99 -0500, you wrote:
>
>do any of you have similar mileage on your brakes?  (I know
>some of you go through a set of pads in a weekend at the track...)  Should
>I be more skeptical of the folks who have looked at them?  I haven't
>checked them myself - never taken apart brakes on a car, any Hoosiers out
>there willing to help me?

I would go ahead and take theyre word for it. They would'nt pass up a
chance to make money. I've put 20k miles on my brakes and they havent worn
much at all. Other brands may wear out faster, but Mitsu pads seem to last
forever.


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Date: Wed, 27 Jan 1999 08:17:18 -0700
From: "Barry E. King" <beking@home.com>
Subject: RE: Team3S: Advice needed on boost gauge installation

You will require a T fitting.  Grab a chunk of the hose and go down to a
hardware, automotive or pet supply store and find one that fits.  I think
the hose is usually around 1/4" but may be smaller or larger depending upon
the hose.  Get the barbed fitting style.

I recommend not buying the cheapest one you see since they are often more
likely to become brittle with the high underhood temperatures and crack.
Even the HKS ones aren't that great.  Brass seems to work well also.  Small
zip ties can be used to ensure a snug junction of the hose to the fitting.


Regards,

Barry

> -----Original Message-----
> Hi everyone,
>
> I just got my Autometer boost gauge in the mail yesterday, but I'm
> scratching my head on one thing.  The fittings that were included don't
> contain a T connector.  All of the pictures I've seen of 3/S cars with
> gauges or controllers have a T connector to tap into the hose.
> Can I buy a
> universal T connector from Wal-Mart in the Aquarium department?  Or do I
> need to buy a T connector from Autometer??  Or am I missing something
> obvious?  The connectors that are supplied are all threaded and
> look way to
> wide.  Please reply to me privately and to the list, because I
> subscribe to
> the digest and I want to figure this problem as quickly as possible.
>
> Thanks,
> Curt G
> 95 R/T TT

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Date: Wed, 27 Jan 1999 09:34:52 -0600
From: Wayne <wala@hypertech-inc.com>
Subject: RE: Team3S: Advice needed on boost gauge installation

Curt,
In addition to what everyone is telling you, you must also consider weather
or not you want to monitor vaccum. Not all hoses under the hood 'see'
vacum.(only the ones downstream of the throttle plate) Remove hoses one at
a time while the engine is idling until you find one that is sucking air,
then tie into that one.

Wayne


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