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Date:
Thu, 14 Jan 1999 23:27:58 +1100
From: Andrew Clark <chemist1@ozemail.com.au>
Subject:
Team3S: Ticking noise / Valve lash
I've been away on holidays & I was
looking thru posts since early
January & picked up on a thread about a
ticking noise.
Actually I've been meaning to ask about a ticking noise I've
heard
lately from my car ( VR4 ). When I got my tuning guy to listen to it
he
said that this noise was known as " valve lash " (?) which I've
never
heard of before.
Basically when the car gets warm, particluarly on
hot days I can hear a
tapping noise both inside the car & outside the car
( when its idling )
but it increases in rate between 3000-4000 rpm as you
drive the car then
fades away.
This tuning guy said that because of
complexity of the engine with
regards to cams & belts etc. if something
just gets a little out of
whack then this sort of noise can often result. He
assures me its not
the lifters that need adjusting & basically if I try
to rectify this it
may infact worsen it?
Has anybody experienced this
before?
Any thoughts would be greatly
appreciated.
Andrew
Australia
94 VR4
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Date:
Thu, 14 Jan 1999 07:34:58 -0500
From: "Theiss, Charles" <charles.theiss@lmco.com>
Subject:
RE: Team3S: Pre-cat Gutting
I have just recently failed my emission test
here in Maryland (State
Standard for Carbon Monoxide 20.0 mine was
23.7) I have both pre-cats and a
high flow cat. Any
ideas?
> ----------
> From: bcdmad@concentric.net[SMTP:bcdmad@concentric.net] on
behalf
> of Brian Danley[SMTP:bcdmad@concentric.net]
>
Reply To: stealth-3000gt@list.sirius.com
>
Sent: Wednesday, January 13, 1999 6:59 PM
> To: 'stealth-3000gt@list.sirius.com'
>
Subject: RE: Team3S: Pre-cat Gutting
>
>
> Here is something
I thought was funny. I saw a "emissions test"
> additive that you
add to your gas to help pass emissions (don't know if it
> works or not)
but the funny part is on the front of the bottle is a 91-93
> mits
VR-4.
>
> Here in Sweden we have something called K-alcohol.
It's a fuel
> additive you use to get rid of ice/water in your fuel.
If you go to the
> test with low fuel (~3 gallons) and use 2 or three of
these bottles in
> your tank (the car runs like crap) you probably pass if
the tests are the
> same as we have here.
>
> I used this
method to get my Celica GT-4 thru the tests and it
> worked every
time
>
> Good luck,
>
> Mikael
>
> For
subscribe/unsubscribe info, our web page is
> http://www.bobforrest.com/Team3S.htm
>
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Date:
Thu, 14 Jan 1999 09:13:27 -0500
From: "Bob Rand" <rtr@vnet.net>
Subject: Re: Team3S: Ticking
noise / Valve lash
Hi Andrew, If the tick is going away at the 3000
rpm range, then it sounds
as if you are OK. The lash adjusters on out
cars are actually a hydrualic
device and pump up with oil. As the car
sits, the adjusters may leak down
and get air in them. Air bubbles are
the cause of the clicking noise. Also
the oil level is critical. If to low,
as the pump suck oil from the pan, it
can occasionally suck a little air.
Guess where the air ends up. If the oil
level is to high, as the crank
shaft wieghts cut through the oil it can
cause bubbles to form and airriate
the oil.
If you bring the rpms up to 3000 - 4000 in a steady rise hold
for a second
and bring it down slowly ( up to 8-10 times) and the lifters
quite down then
the air is removed. If the clicking continues, then you
probalbly have a
bad lash adjuster that will require
replacement.
Bob
93 Stealth TT
- -----Original
Message-----
From: Andrew Clark <chemist1@ozemail.com.au>
To: stealth-3000gt@list.sirius.com
<stealth-3000gt@list.sirius.com>
Date:
Thursday, January 14, 1999 7:24 AM
Subject: Team3S: Ticking noise / Valve
lash
>I've been away on holidays & I was looking thru posts
since early
>January & picked up on a thread about a ticking
noise.
>Actually I've been meaning to ask about a ticking noise I've
heard
>lately from my car ( VR4 ). When I got my tuning guy to listen to
it he
>said that this noise was known as " valve lash " (?) which I've
never
>heard of before.
>Basically when the car gets warm,
particluarly on hot days I can hear a
>tapping noise both inside the car
& outside the car ( when its idling )
>but it increases in rate
between 3000-4000 rpm as you drive the car then
>fades away.
>This
tuning guy said that because of complexity of the engine with
>regards to
cams & belts etc. if something just gets a little out of
>whack then
this sort of noise can often result. He assures me its not
>the lifters
that need adjusting & basically if I try to rectify this it
>may
infact worsen it?
>Has anybody experienced this before?
>Any
thoughts would be greatly appreciated.
>Andrew
>Australia
>94
VR4
>For subscribe/unsubscribe info, our web page is
http://www.bobforrest.com/Team3S.htm
>
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Date:
Thu, 14 Jan 1999 08:14:55 -0600
From: "Brad Bedell" <bbedell@austin.rr.com>
Subject:
RE: Team3S: Pre-cat Gutting
Yeah, drive the car a little harder/longer
before heading into the shop.
This will allow the converters to heat up
more. I have seen several cars
not pass because the car was not fully
warmed up.
If you have not changed plugs, or kept the car in good tune
this could be a
problem.
Also check with pepboys or autozone for an
"emissions passer" product. It
comes in a green bottle and is made by 104
(yes the octane booster people).
There are several other brands out there
also.
> Brad
>
> Check out my home page:
http://lonestar.texas.net/~bbedell
>
E-Mail: bbedell@austin.rr.com
ICQ# 3612682
- -----Original Message-----
From: owner-stealth-3000gt@list.sirius.com
[mailto:owner-stealth-3000gt@list.sirius.com]
On Behalf Of Theiss, Charles
Sent: Thursday, January 14, 1999 6:35 AM
To:
'stealth-3000gt@list.sirius.com'
Subject:
RE: Team3S: Pre-cat Gutting
I have just recently failed my emission test
here in Maryland (State
Standard for Carbon Monoxide 20.0 mine was
23.7) I have both pre-cats and a
high flow cat. Any
ideas?
> ----------
> From: bcdmad@concentric.net[SMTP:bcdmad@concentric.net] on
behalf
> of Brian Danley[SMTP:bcdmad@concentric.net]
>
Reply To: stealth-3000gt@list.sirius.com
>
Sent: Wednesday, January 13, 1999 6:59 PM
> To: 'stealth-3000gt@list.sirius.com'
>
Subject: RE: Team3S: Pre-cat Gutting
>
>
> Here is something I
thought was funny. I saw a "emissions test"
> additive that you add
to your gas to help pass emissions (don't know if it
> works or not) but
the funny part is on the front of the bottle is a 91-93
> mits
VR-4.
>
> Here in Sweden we have something called K-alcohol.
It's a fuel
> additive you use to get rid of ice/water in your fuel.
If you go to the
> test with low fuel (~3 gallons) and use 2 or three of
these bottles in
> your tank (the car runs like crap) you probably pass if
the tests are the
> same as we have here.
>
> I used this
method to get my Celica GT-4 thru the tests and it
> worked every
time
>
> Good luck,
>
> Mikael
>
> For
subscribe/unsubscribe info, our web page is
> http://www.bobforrest.com/Team3S.htm
>
>
For subscribe/unsubscribe info, our web page is
> http://www.bobforrest.com/Team3S.htm
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Date:
Thu, 14 Jan 1999 09:30:09 -0500
From: "Theiss, Charles" <charles.theiss@lmco.com>
Subject:
RE: Team3S: Pre-cat Gutting
Thanks for the advice. However the car
had been ran pretty hard before the
test and has been tuned up. It only
has 23000 miles on it and the plugs
have only about 2000 on them. NEXUS
cleaned the plugs just before the test
and did some tuning but apparently
that wasn't enough. Thinking about
replacing the 02 Sensors and PVC and
trying it again.
> ----------
> From: Brad Bedell[SMTP:bbedell@austin.rr.com]
>
Reply To: stealth-3000gt@list.sirius.com
>
Sent: Thursday, January 14, 1999 9:14 AM
> To: stealth-3000gt@list.sirius.com
>
Subject: RE: Team3S: Pre-cat Gutting
>
> Yeah, drive the car a
little harder/longer before heading into the shop.
> This will allow the
converters to heat up more. I have seen several cars
> not pass
because the car was not fully warmed up.
>
> If you have not
changed plugs, or kept the car in good tune this could be
> a
>
problem.
>
> Also check with pepboys or autozone for an "emissions
passer" product. It
> comes in a green bottle and is made by 104 (yes the
octane booster
> people).
> There are several other brands out there
also.
>
> > Brad
> >
> > Check out my home
page: http://lonestar.texas.net/~bbedell
>
> E-Mail: bbedell@austin.rr.com
ICQ# 3612682
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
>
From: owner-stealth-3000gt@list.sirius.com
>
[mailto:owner-stealth-3000gt@list.sirius.com]
On Behalf Of Theiss, Charles
> Sent: Thursday, January 14, 1999 6:35
AM
> To: 'stealth-3000gt@list.sirius.com'
>
Subject: RE: Team3S: Pre-cat Gutting
>
> I have just recently
failed my emission test here in Maryland (State
> Standard for Carbon
Monoxide 20.0 mine was 23.7) I have both pre-cats and
> a
>
high flow cat. Any ideas?
>
> > ----------
> >
From: bcdmad@concentric.net[SMTP:bcdmad@concentric.net] on
behalf
> > of Brian Danley[SMTP:bcdmad@concentric.net]
>
> Reply To: stealth-3000gt@list.sirius.com
>
> Sent: Wednesday, January 13, 1999 6:59 PM
> > To: 'stealth-3000gt@list.sirius.com'
>
> Subject: RE: Team3S: Pre-cat Gutting
> >
> >
> >
Here is something I thought was funny. I saw a "emissions test"
>
> additive that you add to your gas to help pass emissions (don't know
if
> it
> > works or not) but the funny part is on the front of
the bottle is a
> 91-93
> > mits VR-4.
> >
> >
Here in Sweden we have something called K-alcohol. It's a fuel
>
> additive you use to get rid of ice/water in your fuel. If you go to
the
> > test with low fuel (~3 gallons) and use 2 or three of these
bottles in
> > your tank (the car runs like crap) you probably pass if
the tests are
> the
> > same as we have here.
>
>
> > I used this method to get my Celica GT-4 thru the tests and
it
> > worked every time
> >
> > Good luck,
>
>
> > Mikael
> >
> > For subscribe/unsubscribe
info, our web page is
> > http://www.bobforrest.com/Team3S.htm
>
>
> > For subscribe/unsubscribe info, our web page is
> >
http://www.bobforrest.com/Team3S.htm
>
>
> For subscribe/unsubscribe info, our web page is
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Date:
Thu, 14 Jan 1999 09:26:25 -0600
From: Wayne <wala@hypertech-inc.com>
Subject:
RE: Team3S: Pre-cat Gutting
Charles,
With the mileage of the car, it
should be under warranty, right? If i were
you, i would UNDO whatever nexus
did (especially if they altered you're
ignition timing), and try the test
again. If it still fails, bring it to
the dealer and ask them why a car with
23000 miles is failing the test, and
request that they take care of the
problem under warranty. That would be my
next
step.
Wayne
At 09:30 AM 1/14/99 -0500, you
wrote:
>Thanks for the advice. However the car had been ran pretty
hard before the
>test and has been tuned up. It only has 23000 miles
on it and the plugs
>have only about 2000 on them. NEXUS cleaned the
plugs just before the test
>and did some tuning but apparently that wasn't
enough. Thinking about
>replacing the 02 Sensors and PVC and trying
it again.
>
>> ----------
>> From: Brad Bedell[SMTP:bbedell@austin.rr.com]
>>
Reply To: stealth-3000gt@list.sirius.com
>>
Sent: Thursday, January 14, 1999 9:14 AM
>> To: stealth-3000gt@list.sirius.com
>>
Subject: RE: Team3S: Pre-cat Gutting
>>
>> Yeah, drive the
car a little harder/longer before heading into the shop.
>> This will
allow the converters to heat up more. I have seen several cars
>>
not pass because the car was not fully warmed up.
>>
>> If
you have not changed plugs, or kept the car in good tune this could
be
>> a
>> problem.
>>
>> Also check with
pepboys or autozone for an "emissions passer" product. It
>> comes in a
green bottle and is made by 104 (yes the octane booster
>>
people).
>> There are several other brands out there also.
>>
>> > Brad
>> >
>> > Check out my home
page: http://lonestar.texas.net/~bbedell
>>
> E-Mail: bbedell@austin.rr.com
ICQ# 3612682
>>
>>
>> -----Original
Message-----
>> From: owner-stealth-3000gt@list.sirius.com
>>
[mailto:owner-stealth-3000gt@list.sirius.com]
On Behalf Of Theiss, Charles
>> Sent: Thursday, January 14, 1999 6:35
AM
>> To: 'stealth-3000gt@list.sirius.com'
>>
Subject: RE: Team3S: Pre-cat Gutting
>>
>> I have just
recently failed my emission test here in Maryland (State
>> Standard
for Carbon Monoxide 20.0 mine was 23.7) I have both pre-cats
and
>> a
>> high flow cat. Any ideas?
>>
>> > ----------
>> > From: bcdmad@concentric.net[SMTP:bcdmad@concentric.net] on
behalf
>> > of Brian Danley[SMTP:bcdmad@concentric.net]
>>
> Reply To: stealth-3000gt@list.sirius.com
>>
> Sent: Wednesday, January 13, 1999 6:59 PM
>> > To: 'stealth-3000gt@list.sirius.com'
>>
> Subject: RE: Team3S: Pre-cat Gutting
>> >
>>
>
>> > Here is something I thought was funny. I saw a
"emissions test"
>> > additive that you add to your gas to help pass
emissions (don't know if
>> it
>> > works or not) but the
funny part is on the front of the bottle is a
>> 91-93
>> >
mits VR-4.
>> >
>> > Here in Sweden we have something
called K-alcohol. It's a fuel
>> > additive you use to get rid
of ice/water in your fuel. If you go to the
>> > test with low fuel
(~3 gallons) and use 2 or three of these bottles in
>> > your tank
(the car runs like crap) you probably pass if the tests are
>>
the
>> > same as we have here.
>> >
>> > I
used this method to get my Celica GT-4 thru the tests and it
>> >
worked every time
>> >
>> > Good luck,
>>
>
>> > Mikael
>> >
>> > For
subscribe/unsubscribe info, our web page is
>> > http://www.bobforrest.com/Team3S.htm
>>
>
>> > For subscribe/unsubscribe info, our web page
is
>> > http://www.bobforrest.com/Team3S.htm
>>
>
>> For subscribe/unsubscribe info, our web page is
>> http://www.bobforrest.com/Team3S.htm
>>
>> For subscribe/unsubscribe info, our web page is
>> http://www.bobforrest.com/Team3S.htm
>>
>For subscribe/unsubscribe info, our web page is
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------------------------------
Date:
Thu, 14 Jan 1999 10:26:35 -0500
From: "Theiss, Charles" <charles.theiss@lmco.com>
Subject:
RE: Team3S: Pre-cat Gutting
Thank you for that input. Unfortunately
The car has had quite a bit of
modification and I am sure that the dealer
would quickly refuse to accept
any liability which is a risk I knew I had to
accept once I began the
modifications. I am still puzzled however that
I would fail with the
precats and a cat. The car is running
exremely well (12.6 in the quarter
at 112 MPH) .
>
----------
> From: Wayne[SMTP:wala@hypertech-inc.com]
>
Reply To: stealth-3000gt@list.sirius.com
>
Sent: Thursday, January 14, 1999 10:26 AM
> To: stealth-3000gt@list.sirius.com
>
Subject: RE: Team3S: Pre-cat Gutting
>
> Charles,
> With the
mileage of the car, it should be under warranty, right? If i were
> you, i
would UNDO whatever nexus did (especially if they altered you're
>
ignition timing), and try the test again. If it still fails, bring it to
>
the dealer and ask them why a car with 23000 miles is failing the test,
>
and
> request that they take care of the problem under warranty. That
would be
> my
> next step.
>
> Wayne
>
>
> At 09:30 AM 1/14/99 -0500, you wrote:
> >Thanks for the
advice. However the car had been ran pretty hard before
>
the
> >test and has been tuned up. It only has 23000 miles on it
and the plugs
> >have only about 2000 on them. NEXUS cleaned the
plugs just before the
> test
> >and did some tuning but
apparently that wasn't enough. Thinking about
> >replacing the 02
Sensors and PVC and trying it again.
> >
> >>
----------
> >> From: Brad Bedell[SMTP:bbedell@austin.rr.com]
>
>> Reply To: stealth-3000gt@list.sirius.com
>
>> Sent: Thursday, January 14, 1999 9:14 AM
> >> To: stealth-3000gt@list.sirius.com
>
>> Subject: RE: Team3S: Pre-cat Gutting
> >>
> >>
Yeah, drive the car a little harder/longer before heading into the
>
shop.
> >> This will allow the converters to heat up more. I
have seen several
> cars
> >> not pass because the car was not
fully warmed up.
> >>
> >> If you have not changed
plugs, or kept the car in good tune this could
> be
> >>
a
> >> problem.
> >>
> >> Also check with
pepboys or autozone for an "emissions passer" product.
> It
>
>> comes in a green bottle and is made by 104 (yes the octane
booster
> >> people).
> >> There are several other
brands out there also.
> >>
> >> > Brad
>
>> >
> >> > Check out my home page: http://lonestar.texas.net/~bbedell
>
>> > E-Mail: bbedell@austin.rr.com ICQ#
3612682
> >>
> >>
> >> -----Original
Message-----
> >> From: owner-stealth-3000gt@list.sirius.com
>
>> [mailto:owner-stealth-3000gt@list.sirius.com]
On Behalf Of Theiss,
> Charles
> >> Sent: Thursday, January
14, 1999 6:35 AM
> >> To: 'stealth-3000gt@list.sirius.com'
>
>> Subject: RE: Team3S: Pre-cat Gutting
> >>
> >>
I have just recently failed my emission test here in Maryland (State
>
>> Standard for Carbon Monoxide 20.0 mine was 23.7) I have both
pre-cats
> and
> >> a
> >> high flow cat.
Any ideas?
> >>
> >> > ----------
> >>
> From: bcdmad@concentric.net[SMTP:bcdmad@concentric.net] on
behalf
> >> > of Brian Danley[SMTP:bcdmad@concentric.net]
>
>> > Reply To: stealth-3000gt@list.sirius.com
>
>> > Sent: Wednesday, January 13, 1999 6:59 PM
> >> >
To: 'stealth-3000gt@list.sirius.com'
>
>> > Subject: RE: Team3S: Pre-cat Gutting
> >> >
>
>> >
> >> > Here is something I thought was funny.
I saw a "emissions test"
> >> > additive that you add to your gas
to help pass emissions (don't know
> if
> >> it
>
>> > works or not) but the funny part is on the front of the bottle is
a
> >> 91-93
> >> > mits VR-4.
> >>
>
> >> > Here in Sweden we have something called K-alcohol.
It's a fuel
> >> > additive you use to get rid of ice/water
in your fuel. If you go to
> the
> >> > test with low fuel
(~3 gallons) and use 2 or three of these bottles
> in
> >>
> your tank (the car runs like crap) you probably pass if the tests
are
> >> the
> >> > same as we have here.
>
>> >
> >> > I used this method to get my Celica GT-4
thru the tests and it
> >> > worked every time
> >>
>
> >> > Good luck,
> >> >
> >>
> Mikael
> >> >
> >> > For
subscribe/unsubscribe info, our web page is
> >> > http://www.bobforrest.com/Team3S.htm
>
>> >
> >> > For subscribe/unsubscribe info, our web page
is
> >> > http://www.bobforrest.com/Team3S.htm
>
>> >
> >> For subscribe/unsubscribe info, our web page
is
> >> http://www.bobforrest.com/Team3S.htm
>
>>
> >> For subscribe/unsubscribe info, our web page
is
> >> http://www.bobforrest.com/Team3S.htm
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>>
> >For subscribe/unsubscribe info, our web page is
>
>http://www.bobforrest.com/Team3S.htm
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Date:
Thu, 14 Jan 1999 10:20:26 -0600
From: Wayne <wala@hypertech-inc.com>
Subject:
RE: Team3S: Pre-cat Gutting
At 10:26 AM 1/14/99 -0500, you
wrote:
>Unfortunately The car has had quite a bit of
>modification
and I am sure that the dealer would quickly refuse to accept
>any
liability which is a risk I knew I had to accept once I began
the
>modifications.
You're right, but something else one
must consider when modifying they're
vehicle is the possibility of having to
put the car back into stock form
once a year to satisfy the EPA. Just ask any
japanese performance
enthusiast, they have companies over there who's sole
purpose is to trade
parts back and forth for they're customers. I would start
with anything you
have done to the fuel system; injectors, VPC, pressure
regulator, etc. It
sounds to me like you are running a little rich. Also, if
while "tuning"
you're car, nexus did anything with the throttle pos sensor,
or anything
that controls the idle, this may also cause a rich condition.
Other than
these things, i dont know what the problem could be. Good
luck.
>precats and a cat. The car is running exremely
well (12.6 in the quarter
>at 112 MPH) .
>
>>
----------
>> From: Wayne[SMTP:wala@hypertech-inc.com]
>>
Reply To: stealth-3000gt@list.sirius.com
>>
Sent: Thursday, January 14, 1999 10:26 AM
>> To: stealth-3000gt@list.sirius.com
>>
Subject: RE: Team3S: Pre-cat Gutting
>>
>>
Charles,
>> With the mileage of the car, it should be under warranty,
right? If i were
>> you, i would UNDO whatever nexus did (especially if
they altered you're
>> ignition timing), and try the test again. If it
still fails, bring it to
>> the dealer and ask them why a car with
23000 miles is failing the test,
>> and
>> request that they
take care of the problem under warranty. That would be
>>
my
>> next step.
>>
>> Wayne
>>
>>
>> At 09:30 AM 1/14/99 -0500, you wrote:
>>
>Thanks for the advice. However the car had been ran pretty hard
before
>> the
>> >test and has been tuned up. It only
has 23000 miles on it and the plugs
>> >have only about 2000 on
them. NEXUS cleaned the plugs just before the
>> test
>>
>and did some tuning but apparently that wasn't enough. Thinking
about
>> >replacing the 02 Sensors and PVC and trying it
again.
>> >
>> >> ----------
>> >>
From: Brad Bedell[SMTP:bbedell@austin.rr.com]
>>
>> Reply To: stealth-3000gt@list.sirius.com
>>
>> Sent: Thursday, January 14, 1999 9:14 AM
>> >> To: stealth-3000gt@list.sirius.com
>>
>> Subject: RE: Team3S: Pre-cat Gutting
>> >>
>>
>> Yeah, drive the car a little harder/longer before heading into
the
>> shop.
>> >> This will allow the converters to
heat up more. I have seen several
>> cars
>> >>
not pass because the car was not fully warmed up.
>> >>
>> >> If you have not changed plugs, or kept the car in good
tune this could
>> be
>> >> a
>> >>
problem.
>> >>
>> >> Also check with pepboys or
autozone for an "emissions passer" product.
>> It
>> >>
comes in a green bottle and is made by 104 (yes the octane booster
>>
>> people).
>> >> There are several other brands out there
also.
>> >>
>> >> > Brad
>> >>
>
>> >> > Check out my home page: http://lonestar.texas.net/~bbedell
>>
>> > E-Mail: bbedell@austin.rr.com ICQ#
3612682
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
-----Original Message-----
>> >> From: owner-stealth-3000gt@list.sirius.com
>>
>> [mailto:owner-stealth-3000gt@list.sirius.com]
On Behalf Of Theiss,
>> Charles
>> >> Sent: Thursday,
January 14, 1999 6:35 AM
>> >> To: 'stealth-3000gt@list.sirius.com'
>>
>> Subject: RE: Team3S: Pre-cat Gutting
>> >>
>>
>> I have just recently failed my emission test here in Maryland
(State
>> >> Standard for Carbon Monoxide 20.0 mine was
23.7) I have both pre-cats
>> and
>> >>
a
>> >> high flow cat. Any ideas?
>> >>
>> >> > ----------
>> >> > From: bcdmad@concentric.net[SMTP:bcdmad@concentric.net] on
behalf
>> >> > of Brian Danley[SMTP:bcdmad@concentric.net]
>>
>> > Reply To: stealth-3000gt@list.sirius.com
>>
>> > Sent: Wednesday, January 13, 1999 6:59 PM
>> >>
> To: 'stealth-3000gt@list.sirius.com'
>>
>> > Subject: RE: Team3S: Pre-cat Gutting
>> >>
>
>> >> >
>> >> > Here is something I
thought was funny. I saw a "emissions test"
>> >> >
additive that you add to your gas to help pass emissions (don't know
>>
if
>> >> it
>> >> > works or not) but the funny
part is on the front of the bottle is a
>> >> 91-93
>>
>> > mits VR-4.
>> >> >
>> >> >
Here in Sweden we have something called K-alcohol. It's a fuel
>>
>> > additive you use to get rid of ice/water in your fuel. If you go
to
>> the
>> >> > test with low fuel (~3 gallons) and
use 2 or three of these bottles
>> in
>> >> > your
tank (the car runs like crap) you probably pass if the tests are
>>
>> the
>> >> > same as we have here.
>>
>> >
>> >> > I used this method to get my Celica GT-4
thru the tests and it
>> >> > worked every time
>>
>> >
>> >> > Good luck,
>> >>
>
>> >> > Mikael
>> >> >
>>
>> > For subscribe/unsubscribe info, our web page is
>>
>> > http://www.bobforrest.com/Team3S.htm
>>
>> >
>> >> > For subscribe/unsubscribe info, our web
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>> >> > http://www.bobforrest.com/Team3S.htm
>>
>> >
>> >> For subscribe/unsubscribe info, our web page
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Date:
Thu, 14 Jan 1999 11:14:34 -0500
From: John <adams@icx.net>
Subject: Re: Team3S:
Ticking noise / Valve lash
Andrew;
Bob is right on this. I have
created a web page on the checking, and replacement of the
lash adjusters
from the manual if you would like to view it. It's in the Repair Center
under
the Service Heading. (The Link to the Repair Center is in my signature
file
appended to the bottom of the message)
John
Bob Rand
wrote:
> Hi Andrew, If the tick is going away at the 3000 rpm
range, then it sounds
> as if you are OK. The lash adjusters on out
cars are actually a hydrualic
> device and pump up with oil. As the
car sits, the adjusters may leak down
> and get air in them. Air
bubbles are the cause of the clicking noise. Also
> the oil level is
critical. If to low, as the pump suck oil from the pan, it
> can
occasionally suck a little air. Guess where the air ends up. If the
oil
> level is to high, as the crank shaft wieghts cut through the oil it
can
> cause bubbles to form and airriate the oil.
>
> If you
bring the rpms up to 3000 - 4000 in a steady rise hold for a second
> and
bring it down slowly ( up to 8-10 times) and the lifters quite down then
>
the air is removed. If the clicking continues, then you probalbly have
a
> bad lash adjuster that will require replacement.
>
>
Bob
> 93 Stealth TT
> -----Original Message-----
> From:
Andrew Clark <chemist1@ozemail.com.au>
>
To: stealth-3000gt@list.sirius.com
<stealth-3000gt@list.sirius.com>
>
Date: Thursday, January 14, 1999 7:24 AM
> Subject: Team3S: Ticking noise
/ Valve lash
>
> >I've been away on holidays & I was looking
thru posts since early
> >January & picked up on a thread about a
ticking noise.
> >Actually I've been meaning to ask about a ticking
noise I've heard
> >lately from my car ( VR4 ). When I got my tuning
guy to listen to it he
> >said that this noise was known as " valve
lash " (?) which I've never
> >heard of before.
> >Basically
when the car gets warm, particluarly on hot days I can hear a
>
>tapping noise both inside the car & outside the car ( when its idling
)
> >but it increases in rate between 3000-4000 rpm as you drive the
car then
> >fades away.
> >This tuning guy said that because
of complexity of the engine with
> >regards to cams & belts etc. if
something just gets a little out of
> >whack then this sort of noise
can often result. He assures me its not
> >the lifters that need
adjusting & basically if I try to rectify this it
> >may infact
worsen it?
> >Has anybody experienced this before?
> >Any
thoughts would be greatly appreciated.
> >Andrew
>
>Australia
> >94 VR4
> >For subscribe/unsubscribe info, our
web page is
> http://www.bobforrest.com/Team3S.htm
>
>
>
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--
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http://user.icx.net/~adams/repair_main.htm
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Date:
Thu, 14 Jan 1999 10:20:23 -0700
From: Andrew Brilliant <andrew@attitudeink.com>
Subject:
Team3S: He everybody
Thought I waste a little bandwidth to say
hi.
I have a server on a T1 line, and can provide space for any
3S stuff you
guys might need/want to post. As well as Domain Hosting,
Email
services. I am a Programmer and can write any web stuff which
would be
warranted, and my time permits.
I live in St. George UT,
I frequent San Diego for work.
Andrew Brilliant
91' VR-4
97 Yamaha
FZR 600
86 Jeep Cherokee 4" lift 33x10.5 BFGs
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------------------------------
Date:
Thu, 14 Jan 1999 10:44:09 -0700
From: "Jeffrey Young" <jefyoung@ix.netcom.com>
Subject:
Re: Team3S: Pre-cat Gutting
Charles;
Are you running larger
injectors and a AFC/VPC? Somebody here in Colorado
couldn't pass
his emissions with the big injectors because he was pushing
too much
fuel. He switched back to the 360's and passed with flying colors
and
re-installed the bigger injectors.
Jeffrey
92 RT/Turbo
www.omega-sw.com/stealth
>Thank
you for that input. Unfortunately The car has had quite a bit
of
>modification and I am sure that the dealer would quickly refuse to
accept
>any liability which is a risk I knew I had to accept once I began
the
>modifications. I am still puzzled however that I would fail
with the
>precats and a cat. The car is running exremely well
(12.6 in the quarter
>at 112 MPH) .
>
>>
----------
>> From: Wayne[SMTP:wala@hypertech-inc.com]
>>
Reply To: stealth-3000gt@list.sirius.com
>>
Sent: Thursday, January 14, 1999 10:26 AM
>> To: stealth-3000gt@list.sirius.com
>>
Subject: RE: Team3S: Pre-cat Gutting
>>
>>
Charles,
>> With the mileage of the car, it should be under warranty,
right? If i
were
>> you, i would UNDO whatever nexus did (especially
if they altered you're
>> ignition timing), and try the test again. If
it still fails, bring it to
>> the dealer and ask them why a car with
23000 miles is failing the test,
>> and
>> request that they
take care of the problem under warranty. That would be
>>
my
>> next step.
>>
>>
Wayne
>>
>>
>> At 09:30 AM 1/14/99 -0500, you
wrote:
>> >Thanks for the advice. However the car had been ran
pretty hard before
>> the
>> >test and has been tuned
up. It only has 23000 miles on it and the plugs
>> >have only
about 2000 on them. NEXUS cleaned the plugs just before the
>>
test
>> >and did some tuning but apparently that wasn't
enough. Thinking about
>> >replacing the 02 Sensors and PVC
and trying it again.
>> >
>> >>
----------
>> >> From: Brad Bedell[SMTP:bbedell@austin.rr.com]
>>
>> Reply To: stealth-3000gt@list.sirius.com
>>
>> Sent: Thursday, January 14, 1999 9:14 AM
>> >> To: stealth-3000gt@list.sirius.com
>>
>> Subject: RE: Team3S: Pre-cat Gutting
>> >>
>>
>> Yeah, drive the car a little harder/longer before heading into
the
>> shop.
>> >> This will allow the converters to
heat up more. I have seen several
>> cars
>> >>
not pass because the car was not fully warmed up.
>>
>>
>> >> If you have not changed plugs, or kept the car in
good tune this could
>> be
>> >> a
>> >>
problem.
>> >>
>> >> Also check with pepboys or
autozone for an "emissions passer" product.
>> It
>> >>
comes in a green bottle and is made by 104 (yes the octane booster
>>
>> people).
>> >> There are several other brands out there
also.
>> >>
>> >> > Brad
>> >>
>
>> >> > Check out my home page: http://lonestar.texas.net/~bbedell
>>
>> > E-Mail: bbedell@austin.rr.com ICQ#
3612682
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
-----Original Message-----
>> >> From: owner-stealth-3000gt@list.sirius.com
>>
>> [mailto:owner-stealth-3000gt@list.sirius.com]
On Behalf Of Theiss,
>> Charles
>> >> Sent: Thursday,
January 14, 1999 6:35 AM
>> >> To: 'stealth-3000gt@list.sirius.com'
>>
>> Subject: RE: Team3S: Pre-cat Gutting
>> >>
>>
>> I have just recently failed my emission test here in Maryland
(State
>> >> Standard for Carbon Monoxide 20.0 mine was
23.7) I have both pre-cats
>> and
>> >>
a
>> >> high flow cat. Any ideas?
>>
>>
>> >> > ----------
>> >> > From: bcdmad@concentric.net[SMTP:bcdmad@concentric.net] on
behalf
>> >> > of Brian Danley[SMTP:bcdmad@concentric.net]
>>
>> > Reply To: stealth-3000gt@list.sirius.com
>>
>> > Sent: Wednesday, January 13, 1999 6:59 PM
>> >>
> To: 'stealth-3000gt@list.sirius.com'
>>
>> > Subject: RE: Team3S: Pre-cat Gutting
>> >>
>
>> >> >
>> >> > Here is something I
thought was funny. I saw a "emissions test"
>> >> >
additive that you add to your gas to help pass emissions (don't know
>>
if
>> >> it
>> >> > works or not) but the funny
part is on the front of the bottle is a
>> >> 91-93
>>
>> > mits VR-4.
>> >> >
>> >> >
Here in Sweden we have something called K-alcohol. It's a fuel
>>
>> > additive you use to get rid of ice/water in your fuel. If you go
to
>> the
>> >> > test with low fuel (~3 gallons) and
use 2 or three of these bottles
>> in
>> >> > your
tank (the car runs like crap) you probably pass if the tests
are
>>
>> the
>> >> > same as we have here.
>>
>> >
>> >> > I used this method to get my Celica GT-4
thru the tests and it
>> >> > worked every time
>>
>> >
>> >> > Good luck,
>> >>
>
>> >> > Mikael
>> >> >
>>
>> > For subscribe/unsubscribe info, our web page is
>>
>> > http://www.bobforrest.com/Team3S.htm
>>
>> >
>> >> > For subscribe/unsubscribe info, our web
page is
>> >> > http://www.bobforrest.com/Team3S.htm
>>
>> >
>> >> For subscribe/unsubscribe info, our web page
is
>> >> http://www.bobforrest.com/Team3S.htm
>>
>>
>> >> For subscribe/unsubscribe info, our web page
is
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>>
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>>
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Date:
Thu, 14 Jan 1999 12:45:33 -0500
From: "Theiss, Charles" <charles.theiss@lmco.com>
Subject:
RE: Team3S: Pre-cat Gutting
Thanks Jeff that may be the problem. I
have 560 injectors, HKS fuel pump,
and a AFC. I too believe that the
car is running to rich so will try to
lean it out more but the only solution
may be to reinstall the smaller
injectors. Thanks again for your
advice.
> ----------
> From: Jeffrey Young[SMTP:jefyoung@ix.netcom.com]
>
Reply To: stealth-3000gt@list.sirius.com
>
Sent: Thursday, January 14, 1999 12:44 PM
> To: stealth-3000gt@list.sirius.com
>
Subject: Re: Team3S: Pre-cat Gutting
>
> Charles;
>
>
Are you running larger injectors and a AFC/VPC? Somebody here in
Colorado
> couldn't pass his emissions with the big injectors
because he was pushing
> too much fuel. He switched back to the
360's and passed with flying
> colors
> and re-installed the bigger
injectors.
>
>
> Jeffrey
> 92 RT/Turbo
> www.omega-sw.com/stealth
>
>
> >Thank you for that input. Unfortunately The car has
had quite a bit of
> >modification and I am sure that the dealer would
quickly refuse to accept
> >any liability which is a risk I knew I had
to accept once I began the
> >modifications. I am still puzzled
however that I would fail with the
> >precats and a cat.
The car is running exremely well (12.6 in the
> quarter
> >at 112
MPH) .
> >
> >> ----------
> >> From: Wayne[SMTP:wala@hypertech-inc.com]
>
>> Reply To: stealth-3000gt@list.sirius.com
>
>> Sent: Thursday, January 14, 1999 10:26 AM
> >> To: stealth-3000gt@list.sirius.com
>
>> Subject: RE: Team3S: Pre-cat Gutting
> >>
> >>
Charles,
> >> With the mileage of the car, it should be under
warranty, right? If i
> were
> >> you, i would UNDO whatever
nexus did (especially if they altered you're
> >> ignition timing),
and try the test again. If it still fails, bring it
> to
> >>
the dealer and ask them why a car with 23000 miles is failing the test,
>
>> and
> >> request that they take care of the problem under
warranty. That would
> be
> >> my
> >> next
step.
> >>
> >> Wayne
> >>
>
>>
> >> At 09:30 AM 1/14/99 -0500, you wrote:
> >>
>Thanks for the advice. However the car had been ran pretty
hard
> before
> >> the
> >> >test and has been
tuned up. It only has 23000 miles on it and the
> plugs
>
>> >have only about 2000 on them. NEXUS cleaned the plugs just
before the
> >> test
> >> >and did some tuning but
apparently that wasn't enough. Thinking about
> >>
>replacing the 02 Sensors and PVC and trying it again.
> >>
>
> >> >> ----------
> >> >> From: Brad
Bedell[SMTP:bbedell@austin.rr.com]
>
>> >> Reply To: stealth-3000gt@list.sirius.com
>
>> >> Sent: Thursday, January 14, 1999 9:14 AM
> >>
>> To: stealth-3000gt@list.sirius.com
>
>> >> Subject: RE: Team3S: Pre-cat Gutting
> >>
>>
> >> >> Yeah, drive the car a little harder/longer
before heading into the
> >> shop.
> >> >> This
will allow the converters to heat up more. I have seen several
>
>> cars
> >> >> not pass because the car was not fully
warmed up.
> >> >>
> >> >> If you have not
changed plugs, or kept the car in good tune this
> could
> >>
be
> >> >> a
> >> >> problem.
>
>> >>
> >> >> Also check with pepboys or autozone
for an "emissions passer"
> product.
> >> It
> >>
>> comes in a green bottle and is made by 104 (yes the octane
booster
> >> >> people).
> >> >> There are
several other brands out there also.
> >> >>
> >>
>> > Brad
> >> >> >
> >> >> >
Check out my home page: http://lonestar.texas.net/~bbedell
>
>> >> > E-Mail: bbedell@austin.rr.com ICQ#
3612682
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >>
>> -----Original Message-----
> >> >> From: owner-stealth-3000gt@list.sirius.com
>
>> >> [mailto:owner-stealth-3000gt@list.sirius.com]
On Behalf Of Theiss,
> >> Charles
> >> >> Sent:
Thursday, January 14, 1999 6:35 AM
> >> >> To: 'stealth-3000gt@list.sirius.com'
>
>> >> Subject: RE: Team3S: Pre-cat Gutting
> >>
>>
> >> >> I have just recently failed my emission test
here in Maryland (State
> >> >> Standard for Carbon Monoxide
20.0 mine was 23.7) I have both
> pre-cats
> >>
and
> >> >> a
> >> >> high flow cat.
Any ideas?
> >> >>
> >> >> >
----------
> >> >> > From: bcdmad@concentric.net[SMTP:bcdmad@concentric.net] on
behalf
> >> >> > of Brian Danley[SMTP:bcdmad@concentric.net]
>
>> >> > Reply To: stealth-3000gt@list.sirius.com
>
>> >> > Sent: Wednesday, January 13, 1999 6:59 PM
>
>> >> > To: 'stealth-3000gt@list.sirius.com'
>
>> >> > Subject: RE: Team3S: Pre-cat Gutting
> >>
>> >
> >> >> >
> >> >> > Here
is something I thought was funny. I saw a "emissions test"
>
>> >> > additive that you add to your gas to help pass emissions
(don't
> know
> >> if
> >> >> it
>
>> >> > works or not) but the funny part is on the front of the
bottle is
> a
> >> >> 91-93
> >> >>
> mits VR-4.
> >> >> >
> >> >> >
Here in Sweden we have something called K-alcohol. It's a fuel
>
>> >> > additive you use to get rid of ice/water in your fuel. If
you go
> to
> >> the
> >> >> > test with
low fuel (~3 gallons) and use 2 or three of these
> bottles
>
>> in
> >> >> > your tank (the car runs like crap)
you probably pass if the tests
> are
> >> >> the
>
>> >> > same as we have here.
> >> >>
>
> >> >> > I used this method to get my Celica GT-4
thru the tests and it
> >> >> > worked every time
>
>> >> >
> >> >> > Good luck,
>
>> >> >
> >> >> > Mikael
> >>
>> >
> >> >> > For subscribe/unsubscribe info, our
web page is
> >> >> > http://www.bobforrest.com/Team3S.htm
>
>> >> >
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>> >> >
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Date:
Thu, 14 Jan 1999 10:51:09 -0700
From: "Palamara, Peter" <pala@gwl.com>
Subject: RE: Team3S: Pre-cat
Gutting
That was me. The injectors we found out, open wide and actually
dumped
so much fuel that it would sit in the cat and wait to burn off.
This
would happen at an rpm level of 2100 and I think they rev it too
2500
for a stationary test. The instant I switched back too the 360 but
with
the 550 chip in the vpc the car ran like crap but passed with
flying
covers, it did run extremely hot though!!! The car does not have any
pre
cats but I borrowed the stock cat from Jeffery Young. :)
Pete
Palamara
92 3000vr-4(GTO)
500 hp of Fun
(303)689-4733
>
-----Original Message-----
> From: Jeffrey Young [SMTP:jefyoung@ix.netcom.com]
>
Sent: Thursday, January 14, 1999 10:44 AM
> To: stealth-3000gt@list.sirius.com
>
Subject: Re: Team3S: Pre-cat Gutting
>
> Charles;
>
>
Are you running larger injectors and a AFC/VPC? Somebody here in
>
Colorado
> couldn't pass his emissions with the big injectors
because he was
> pushing
> too much fuel. He switched back to
the 360's and passed with flying
> colors
> and re-installed the
bigger injectors.
>
>
> Jeffrey
> 92 RT/Turbo
>
www.omega-sw.com/stealth
>
>
> >Thank you for that input. Unfortunately The car has
had quite a bit
> of
> >modification and I am sure that the
dealer would quickly refuse to
> accept
> >any liability which is
a risk I knew I had to accept once I began the
> >modifications.
I am still puzzled however that I would fail with the
> >precats and a
cat. The car is running exremely well (12.6 in the
>
quarter
> >at 112 MPH) .
> >
> >>
----------
> >> From: Wayne[SMTP:wala@hypertech-inc.com]
>
>> Reply To: stealth-3000gt@list.sirius.com
>
>> Sent: Thursday, January 14, 1999 10:26 AM
> >> To: stealth-3000gt@list.sirius.com
>
>> Subject: RE: Team3S: Pre-cat Gutting
> >>
> >>
Charles,
> >> With the mileage of the car, it should be under
warranty, right? If
> i
> were
> >> you, i would UNDO
whatever nexus did (especially if they altered
> you're
> >>
ignition timing), and try the test again. If it still fails, bring
> it
to
> >> the dealer and ask them why a car with 23000 miles is
failing the
> test,
> >> and
> >> request that
they take care of the problem under warranty. That
> would be
>
>> my
> >> next step.
> >>
> >>
Wayne
> >>
> >>
> >> At 09:30 AM 1/14/99
-0500, you wrote:
> >> >Thanks for the advice. However the
car had been ran pretty hard
> before
> >> the
>
>> >test and has been tuned up. It only has 23000 miles on it and
the
> plugs
> >> >have only about 2000 on them. NEXUS
cleaned the plugs just before
> the
> >> test
> >>
>and did some tuning but apparently that wasn't enough.
Thinking
> about
> >> >replacing the 02 Sensors and PVC and
trying it again.
> >> >
> >> >>
----------
> >> >> From: Brad Bedell[SMTP:bbedell@austin.rr.com]
>
>> >> Reply To: stealth-3000gt@list.sirius.com
>
>> >> Sent: Thursday, January 14, 1999 9:14 AM
> >>
>> To: stealth-3000gt@list.sirius.com
>
>> >> Subject: RE: Team3S: Pre-cat Gutting
> >>
>>
> >> >> Yeah, drive the car a little harder/longer
before heading into
> the
> >> shop.
> >> >>
This will allow the converters to heat up more. I have seen
>
several
> >> cars
> >> >> not pass because the car
was not fully warmed up.
> >> >>
> >> >> If
you have not changed plugs, or kept the car in good tune this
>
could
> >> be
> >> >> a
> >> >>
problem.
> >> >>
> >> >> Also check with
pepboys or autozone for an "emissions passer"
> product.
> >>
It
> >> >> comes in a green bottle and is made by 104 (yes the
octane
> booster
> >> >> people).
> >>
>> There are several other brands out there also.
> >>
>>
> >> >> > Brad
> >> >>
>
> >> >> > Check out my home page: http://lonestar.texas.net/~bbedell
>
>> >> > E-Mail: bbedell@austin.rr.com ICQ#
3612682
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >>
>> -----Original Message-----
> >> >> From: owner-stealth-3000gt@list.sirius.com
>
>> >> [mailto:owner-stealth-3000gt@list.sirius.com]
On Behalf Of
> Theiss,
> >> Charles
> >> >>
Sent: Thursday, January 14, 1999 6:35 AM
> >> >> To: 'stealth-3000gt@list.sirius.com'
>
>> >> Subject: RE: Team3S: Pre-cat Gutting
> >>
>>
> >> >> I have just recently failed my emission test
here in Maryland
> (State
> >> >> Standard for Carbon
Monoxide 20.0 mine was 23.7) I have both
> pre-cats
> >>
and
> >> >> a
> >> >> high flow cat.
Any ideas?
> >> >>
> >> >> >
----------
> >> >> > From: bcdmad@concentric.net[SMTP:bcdmad@concentric.net]
on
> behalf
> >> >> > of Brian Danley[SMTP:bcdmad@concentric.net]
>
>> >> > Reply To: stealth-3000gt@list.sirius.com
>
>> >> > Sent: Wednesday, January 13, 1999 6:59 PM
>
>> >> > To: 'stealth-3000gt@list.sirius.com'
>
>> >> > Subject: RE: Team3S: Pre-cat Gutting
> >>
>> >
> >> >> >
> >> >> > Here
is something I thought was funny. I saw a "emissions
> test"
>
>> >> > additive that you add to your gas to help pass
emissions
> (don't know
> >> if
> >> >>
it
> >> >> > works or not) but the funny part is on the
front of the bottle
> is a
> >> >> 91-93
>
>> >> > mits VR-4.
> >> >> >
>
>> >> > Here in Sweden we have something called K-alcohol.
It's a
> fuel
> >> >> > additive you use to get
rid of ice/water in your fuel. If you
> go to
> >> the
>
>> >> > test with low fuel (~3 gallons) and use 2 or three of
these
> bottles
> >> in
> >> >> > your
tank (the car runs like crap) you probably pass if the
> tests
>
are
> >> >> the
> >> >> > same as we have
here.
> >> >> >
> >> >> > I used this
method to get my Celica GT-4 thru the tests and it
> >> >>
> worked every time
> >> >> >
> >> >>
> Good luck,
> >> >> >
> >> >> >
Mikael
> >> >> >
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Date:
Thu, 14 Jan 1999 13:22:26 -0500
From: Michael Booker <mrbook@gate.net>
Subject: Re: Team3S:
Pre-cat Gutting
Might be a dumb question, but...
do non-turbos have
precats? If so how do I find and gut them? I have no
emissions laws to worry
about.
Matt
3/Si #311
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Date:
Thu, 14 Jan 1999 13:26:46 -0500
From: Michael Booker <mrbook@gate.net>
Subject: Re: Team3S:
Speedometer cable attachment point?
Bob Rand wrote:
>
>
Mike, IT is suppose to fall out in your hand!!! The piece needs to
seat
> into the tranny and the cable. You DO NOT need a new
cable. The shop has
> not installed the square piece so both ends
are fitting into their
> respective parts.
Really? It looks kind of
broken off, where the wire was attached to it.
could i be wrong? I hope so!
i don't wanna pull the dash!!
Matt
#311
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Date:
Thu, 14 Jan 1999 13:34:21 -0500
From: RPM Motorsports <rpmmotorsport@adelphia.net>
Subject:
Re: Team3S: Heat shields
Removing the heatshields will increase air temps
under the hood. But in
the case of the non turbo, I'm not sure if it woul be
that big of a
temperature increase. I removed both heat shields on my
Vr-4 and I
noticed that intake temp quickly jumped up 15-30 degrees. I
measured
this with an air temp gauge I installed in the Y-pipe. The
biggest
temperature increase occurred in the back intercooler piping. This
was
caused by turbo generating heat and the intercooler piping heating up
as
a result. I bought some thermal wrap and wrapped the intercooler
pipe
and I noticed an immediate reduction in air temperature by 20
degrees.
Another thing I noticed is that it is not usually the heat
shields
covering the manifolds which rattle about and make the noises on
most
cars. It is the heatshields which reside underneath the car and
most
notably the heatshield which surrounds the catalytic converter
which
causes most of the noise problems.
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Date:
Thu, 14 Jan 1999 15:19:34 -0500
From: "Bob Fontana" <bfontana@securitytechnologies.com>
Subject:
Team3S: Cool 3000GT Page
Has anyone ever looked at the Microsoft Carpoint
page? Check this out.
Nice crisp WWW page, nice layout of the entire
3KGT lineage.
http://carpoint.msn.com/vip/Mitsubishi/3000GT
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Date:
Thu, 14 Jan 1999 17:13:07 -0500
From: "Omar Malik" <ojm@iname.com>
Subject: RE: Team3S: Cool
3000GT Page
i don't know how accurate they are, but i often go there to
look at specs
for other cars, like curb weight, horsepower, options. it's
pretty
informative. specs for a lot of cars.
Omar
92
r/t
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-stealth-3000gt@list.sirius.com
>
[mailto:owner-stealth-3000gt@list.sirius.com]On
Behalf Of Bob Fontana
> Sent: Thursday, January 14, 1999 3:20 PM
>
To: 3000/Stealth Technical List
> Subject: Team3S: Cool 3000GT
Page
>
>
> Has anyone ever looked at the Microsoft Carpoint
page? Check this out.
> Nice crisp WWW page, nice layout of the
entire 3KGT lineage.
>
> http://carpoint.msn.com/vip/Mitsubishi/3000GT
>
>
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Date:
Thu, 14 Jan 1999 14:18:34 PST
From: "Eric Lotter" <elotter@hotmail.com>
Subject: RE:
Team3S: Cool 3000GT Page
In formative yes, but How its mitsubishi hiding
the GETRAG fiasco, if
you look under reliablity, there are no red
flags.
Eric
>i don't know how accurate they are, but i often go
there to look at
specs
>for other cars, like curb weight, horsepower,
options. it's pretty
>informative. specs for a lot of
cars.
>
>Omar
>92 r/t
>> Has anyone ever looked at
the Microsoft Carpoint page? Check this
out.
>> Nice crisp
WWW page, nice layout of the entire 3KGT lineage.
>>
>> http://carpoint.msn.com/vip/Mitsubishi/3000GT
>>
>>
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Date:
Thu, 14 Jan 1999 23:41:53 +0100
From: Matthews <matthews@wiesbaden.netsurf.de>
Subject:
Re: Team3S: Metal Y-Pipe
"Barry E. King" wrote:
>
> > 2.
I would also like to know if anyone know where I could find after
> >
market suspension parts.
>
> Check out Ground Control Suspension at
http://www.ground-control.com.
They
> offer a height adjustable coil-over spring kit for the VR4 priced
around
> $400 including springs and necessary conversion bits. Note
that
> struts/shocks are not part of the package. Works with stock
or aftermarket
> shocks.
Does this mean that the ECS remains
functional? How does ride height
compare to stock? Stiffness
(tour/sport becomes sport/tooth
chattering)? Thanx...
-Jim
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Black '94 Dodge Stealth R/T Twin-Turbo AWD AWS 6-spd
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Suspension, Adjustable Exhaust System
K&N FIPK, A'PEXi Super AVC-R (1.0
bar @ 70/84% BADC)
A'PEXi Turbo Timer (30 sec), Bosch Winged
Wipers
Magnecore spark plug wires, Redline ShockProof fluids
Metal Matrix
brake pads, custom braided brake lines
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G-Tech Pro: 0-60 4.79 sec, 1/4 13.16 sec @ 113.9
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Date:
Thu, 14 Jan 1999 23:46:37 +0100
From: Matthews <matthews@wiesbaden.netsurf.de>
Subject:
Re: Team3S: Heat shields
RPM Motorsports wrote:
>
> Another
thing I noticed is that it is not usually the heat shields
> covering the
manifolds which rattle about and make the noises on most
> cars. It is the
heatshields which reside underneath the car and most
> notably the
heatshield which surrounds the catalytic converter which
> causes most of
the noise problems.
Yes, this is the shield that rattles on my car.
I've had a suggestion
to slop some liquid metal epoxy goop on there... is
there another way to
tighten it up and reduce the resonance?
Thanx...
-Jim
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A'PEXi Turbo Timer (30 sec), Bosch Winged
Wipers
Magnecore spark plug wires, Redline ShockProof fluids
Metal Matrix
brake pads, custom braided brake lines
Michelin Pilot XGT-Z4 245/45ZR17, TS
(so far): 166mph
G-Tech Pro: 0-60 4.79 sec, 1/4 13.16 sec @ 113.9
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Date:
Thu, 14 Jan 1999 16:44:42 -0600
From: Wayne <wala@hypertech-inc.com>
Subject:
Team3S: HTML
O.K. I've been told i can't send HTML, but unfortunately i
have no idea
what this is. I have a parts for sale post i want to send, but
it tells me
it contains this code when i try to send it. (plain and styled
text) What
do i do?
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Date:
Thu, 14 Jan 1999 16:41:18 -0600
From: Wayne <wala@hypertech-inc.com>
Subject:
Team3S: Parts for sale
O.K. I'm sure all of you use the other lists, for
entertainment purposes,
but i figured i would post this here anyway. All
parts are off a 91 VR-4,
and all prices include shipping (in the us, that
is). In addition to the
parts listed, i also have an intercooler; It's a
cartech, and it measures
18"w x 12"h x 3" thick. It is set up for 2.25"
plumbing, and has cooling
fins in the charge air passages, as well as the
exterior. Let me know if
you would like to see pics of it. I'd like to get
$350 for it. Pass this
info on to the DSM list or any others that you may
think would be
interested. Thanks.
Triple gage assembly (center of
dash) - $75
Wiper motor - $50
Intercooler and radiator hoses - Price
varies
ABS modulator - $300
Right side pop-up motor - $40
Clutch
master cylinder - $40
2 Throttle bodies - $100 each
Intake manifold (no
plenum) - $75
Crank angle sensor - $125
Injectors - Have been cleaned by
RC engineering - $300 for 6
Exaust manifolds - almost new - $125
Coil
packs - $75
Cruise control/throttle cables and linkage box - $50
Cruise
control unit - $50
ETACS control unit - $75
A/C control unit - $75 (this
is NOT the dashboard display)
Flasher control unit - $25
4WS oil pump -
$125
Rear struts - $100 each
Drive shaft - $100
Oil filter/relief
valve housing - $75
Engine control harness (ECM to engine) - $200
Dash
board harness - $150
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Date:
Fri, 15 Jan 1999 12:07:13 +1100
From: Andrew Clark <chemist1@ozemail.com.au>
Subject:
Re: Team3S: Ticking noise / Valve lash
Thanks for the info Bob &
John.
I'll give the air bubble removal method a go first & see what
happens.
The car is actually under factory warrantye, would lash
adjuster
replacement be something covered by a factory warrantye? If not
what
would they be worth to replace in $US?
Thanks once again!!
Andrew
Australia
John wrote:
>
> Andrew;
> Bob is right on
this. I have created a web page on the checking, and replacement of the
>
lash adjusters from the manual if you would like to view it. It's in the Repair
Center
> under the Service Heading. (The Link to the Repair Center is in
my signature file
> appended to the bottom of the message)
>
> John
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Date:
Thu, 14 Jan 1999 20:09:53 -0500
From: John <adams@icx.net>
Subject: Re: Team3S:
Ticking noise / Valve lash
Yes, I would say the warranty definitely
should cover it. Usually engine and drive train are
the most extensively
covered in a new car warranty if you are still under it's protection.
Check
and make sure your oil level is where it should be first though as this could
have a
major bearing on the lash adjuster noise and it's picking up
air.
John
Andrew Clark wrote:
> Thanks for the info Bob
& John.
> I'll give the air bubble removal method a go first & see
what happens.
> The car is actually under factory warrantye, would lash
adjuster
> replacement be something covered by a factory warrantye? If not
what
> would they be worth to replace in $US?
> Thanks once
again!!
> Andrew
> Australia
> John wrote:
>
>
> > Andrew;
> > Bob is right on this. I have created a
web page on the checking, and replacement of the
> > lash adjusters
from the manual if you would like to view it. It's in the Repair Center
>
> under the Service Heading. (The Link to the Repair Center is in my
signature file
> > appended to the bottom of the message)
>
>
> > John
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Date:
Thu, 14 Jan 1999 22:25:04 -0800
From: wce@bc.sympatico.ca
Subject: Re:
Team3S: Ticking noise / Valve lash
This ticking noise is someting that
has been addressed before and hopefully you won't have to go
as far as
replacement. Check the easy stuff first. First, try an engine flush product with
your
next oil change (Gunk, Pro-tec, etc). Hopefully these products are
available there. It might
solve the problem easily for you. Then use only
synthetic oil (Mobil 1 or Castrol Synthetic, if
you are not already). Some
people have claimed that using only the Mitsu oil filter makes a
big
difference with this sound. Finally, insure it's not the ticking coming
from the firewall that
has beeen discussed separately. I found particularly
that an engine flush, and oil change made a
huge difference in this sound in
my car. Hope it works with you.
Best
Darc
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Date:
Fri, 15 Jan 1999 01:43:56 -0700
From: "Barry E. King" <beking@home.com>
Subject: RE: Team3S:
Metal Y-Pipe
ECS de remain functional. Ride height is adjustable
-2" - +1" within
practical limits of geometry. Ride quality is totally
determined by your
choice of spring rates and what shocks are employed.
I have GABs which are
simply amazing. The stock VR4 is radically
undersprung not unlike most
consumer vehicles.
I chose 550 lbs up
front and 350 in the rear which is about 150 lbs stiffer
than say an RS*R
spring. Note that this is _still_ radically below "race
car"
specs. I haven't driven the vehicle with these springs but I expect
a
firm ride but much improved compliance and stability. The (previous)
RS*R
and GABs combination was "okay" but the springs were still too soft
for
aggressive driving as would be street Eibachs or any of the other
street
"lowering" springs. With the GABs and RS*Rs front end push which
is in
these cars from day one was virtually eliminated. Single lane 90
degree
corners can easily be executed at 60+ mph without losing
tracking. Scares
the hell out of onlookers and passengers.
More
importantly, lowering springs rob your car of suspension travel.
the
major advantage of the GC kit is that height is adjustable
without
compromising suspension travel. That is to say, these are
"lowering"
springs done right.
Reagrds,
Barry
>
-----Original Message-----
> Does this mean that the ECS remains
functional? How does ride height
> compare to stock? Stiffness
(tour/sport becomes sport/tooth
> chattering)?
Thanx...
>
> -Jim
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Date:
Fri, 15 Jan 1999 09:53:25 -0000
From: "Simon Jones" <simon@3kgto.freeserve.co.uk>
Subject:
Fw: Team3S: Metal Y-Pipe (now Lowering Springs)
- -----Original
Message-----
From: Barry E. King <beking@home.com>
To: stealth-3000gt@list.sirius.com
<stealth-3000gt@list.sirius.com>
Date:
15 January 1999 08:42
Subject: RE: Team3S: Metal Y-Pipe
>I
chose 550 lbs up front and 350 in the rear which is about 150 lbs
stiffer
>than say an RS*R spring. Note that this is _still_
radically below "race
>car" specs. I haven't driven the vehicle with
these springs but I expect a
>firm ride but much improved compliance and
stability. The (previous) RS*R
>and GABs combination was "okay" but
the springs were still too soft for
>aggressive driving as would be street
Eibachs or any of the other street
>"lowering" springs. With the
GABs and RS*Rs front end push which is in
>these cars from day one was
virtually eliminated. Single lane 90 degree
>corners can easily be
executed at 60+ mph without losing tracking. Scares
>the hell out of
onlookers and passengers.
Barry,
Are you using the springs
that come with the GC kit (Eibachs), or have you
had them custom
made?
Thanks,
Simon Jones
simon@3kgto.freeserve.co.uk
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Date:
Fri, 15 Jan 1999 08:15:38 -0700
From: "Barry E. King" <beking@home.com>
Subject: RE: Team3S:
Metal Y-Pipe (now Lowering Springs)
The GC springs are Eibach Racing
(ERL) springs custom made for GC by ERL.
GC ships to your specifications at
the time of order.
Regards,
Barry
> -----Original
Message-----
> Barry,
>
> Are you using the springs that come
with the GC kit (Eibachs), or have you
> had them custom
made?
>
> Thanks,
>
> Simon Jones
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