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Date:
Sun, 10 Jan 1999 19:08:48 -0500
From: "Trent" <rtrent@nlci.com>
Subject: Re: Team3S:
Fuel and Manifold Pressure
Darc,
The only cost effective way I know to
manage fuel is as follows:
In tank pump - 380.00
RC injectors - 84.00
ea.
Apex AFC - 360.00
If your in the market for big boost, this is the
cheapest way to go withour
risking major problems. On the plus side, if
you continue to upgrade (it's
addictive) your good to go on the fuel
side.
I totally sympathise with you on the expense. I did everything I
could
think of to avoid unneeded upgrades. Skip the cat back, down
pipe,
intercoolers, and blow off valve. After fuel, go directly to the
turbos.
This formula has worked great for me (18 psi on the stock exhaust,
down
pipe, and BOV).
Regarding the shudder, retard on my 92TT was
undetectable other than a
slight loss of power under WOT at high rpm when
your expecting more power
because you just turned up boost another
notch. A pretty good indication
that the ECU is
retarding.
Regards,
DaveT/92TT
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Date:
Sun, 10 Jan 1999 18:30:45 -0500
From: Brian Danley <bcdmad@concentric.net>
Subject:
RE: Team3S: Re: Boost Controllers etc.
Brad has a HKS for sale.
bbedell@austin.rr.com
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-----Original Message-----
From: jstump [SMTP:jstump@erols.com]
Sent: Sunday,
January 10, 1999 5:07 PM
To: stealth-3000gt@list.sirius.com
Subject:
Team3S: Re: Boost Controllers etc.
jstump wrote:
>
> I am
looking to buy a boost controller. HKS,Greddy,Blitz, Apex'i or
> manual.
Does anyone have an opinion on which boost controller to get.
> Also I am
looking to buy an Fuel Control Unit(Such as HKS vpc). Ifi I get an HKS VPC do I
have to use their duel filter setup.Thanks
> for your help.
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Date:
Sun, 10 Jan 1999 18:33:50 -0500
From: Brian Danley <bcdmad@concentric.net>
Subject:
RE: Team3S: Re: Boost Controllers etc.
> Also I am looking to buy an
Fuel Control Unit(Such as HKS vpc).If I get
the HKS VPC, do I haqve to get
theie Dual air filter. Thanks
[Brian Danley] No that's not
total necessary. You can fabricate some
thing. But it is nice to find
something that does work great right out of
the box.
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Date:
Sun, 10 Jan 1999 19:52:05 EST
From: Aso8@aol.com
Subject: Team3S: Car won't start
- Answer
Although, I did need a new coil (the spark color and intensity
improved
dramatically)
a leak down test shows my rings are bad. This
was/is the cause of the car not
starting. Not as quick a fix to do. Well, I
was rebuilding the engine
anyway...
One more transformation to my
butterfly and it will sting like a Bee.
Arty 91 VR-4
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Date:
Sun, 10 Jan 1999 17:19:23 -0800
From: wce@bc.sympatico.ca
Subject: Re:
Team3S: Re: Boost Controllers etc.
Everyone has an opinion depending on
which one they are using. Blitz seems to be enjoying the current popularity as
it has a number of
features (dual solenoids, extra settings, etc) which
others do not have. If you're into the track, you might consider it with it's
demand
for fine tuning. However, SAVC-R (Apexi) which a number of us use, has
some inherent saftey features built into it, an injector duty cycle,
as well
as a it's self learn cycle. It is also well worth looking at. There are also HKS
and Greddy members here who can advise on how well
their's work... so it is
just a matter of choosing what you like the best. Check the archives for past
comparison on them as it is a thread
that was running about 2 months ago.
Hope this helps.
Best
Darc
jstump wrote:
> jstump
wrote:
> >
> > I am looking to buy a boost controller.
HKS,Greddy,Blitz, Apex'i or
> > manual. Does anyone have an opinion on
which boost controller to get.
> > Also I am looking to buy an Fuel
Control Unit(Such as HKS vpc).If I get the HKS VPC, do I haqve to get theie Dual
air filter. Thanks
> > fo your help.
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Date:
Sun, 10 Jan 1999 19:32:37 -0600
From: "Brad Bedell" <bbedell@austin.rr.com>
Subject:
RE: Team3S: Shifter swap
The part numbers for both
pieces:
Lower:
MD911858
Shifter lever: MD911854
To say the least, I got my
Mitsubishi parts catalog working :)
> Brad
>
> Check out
my home page: http://lonestar.texas.net/~bbedell
>
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- -----Original Message-----
From: owner-stealth-3000gt@list.sirius.com
[mailto:owner-stealth-3000gt@list.sirius.com]
On Behalf Of Bob Fontana
Sent: Sunday, January 10, 1999 8:18 AM
To: stealth-3000gt@list.sirius.com
Subject:
Team3S: Shifter swap
Brad,
What year shifter did you replace it
with?
- -Bob
> The Shifter lever itself and the cast piece that
connects
> directly to it is
> all that is needed in the swap. I
successfully did this on my girlfriends
> Stealth TT this past
week.
>
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Date:
Sun, 10 Jan 1999 20:15:57 -0600
From: "Brad Bedell" <bbedell@austin.rr.com>
Subject:
Team3S: Revisiting 5/6speed conversions.
For those of you who like to
think way too much, here is some juicy info.
5 speed rear
differential: 3.545 gear ratio
6
speed:
3.307 ratio
For a difference of 7.2%.
What if one were to put the six
speed tranny/transfer case in a 5 speed car
with out changing the rear
end? What kinds of problems would exist?
I can see more power going
to the front or rear, due to the difference of
gearing. Which wheels
would spin faster? Fronts?
Now, is the center differential in the
transmission strong enough to handle
this difference of power? If not,
what is the "breaking %"
Last possible solution: what if one were to put
say 255 45 17's on the rear,
and 255 40 17's on the front
To slow the
different ratio of the rear down a bit. This would leave a
difference
of about 2.2%, not enough to worry about correct?
One other possible
solution: Put the 5 speed differential gearing inside the
6 speed transaxle.
(assuming the transaxle uses the same ring gears)
Thoughts, comments would be
welcomed. As I plan to have a 6 speed in the car
by mid
February.
Thanks,
> Brad
>
> Check out my home
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>
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Date:
Sun, 10 Jan 1999 23:42:27 -0500
From: "Bob Rand" <rtr@vnet.net>
Subject: Re: Team3S:
Revisiting 5/6speed conversions.
Brad, Wouldnt it be easier to
change the ring and pinion gears is the
differential.
Bob
93
Stealth TT
- -----Original Message-----
From: Brad Bedell <bbedell@austin.rr.com>
To: stealth-3000gt@list.sirius.com
<stealth-3000gt@list.sirius.com>
Date:
Sunday, January 10, 1999 9:35 PM
Subject: Team3S: Revisiting 5/6speed
conversions.
>For those of you who like to think way too much,
here is some juicy info.
>
>5 speed rear differential:
3.545 gear ratio
>6
speed:
3.307 ratio
>For a difference of 7.2%.
>
>What if one were to
put the six speed tranny/transfer case in a 5 speed car
>with out changing
the rear end? What kinds of problems would exist?
>
>I can see
more power going to the front or rear, due to the difference
of
>gearing. Which wheels would spin faster?
Fronts?
>
>Now, is the center differential in the transmission
strong enough to handle
>this difference of power? If not, what is
the "breaking %"
>
>Last possible solution: what if one were to put
say 255 45 17's on the
rear,
>and 255 40 17's on the front
>To
slow the different ratio of the rear down a bit. This would leave
a
>difference of about 2.2%, not enough to worry about
correct?
>
>One other possible solution: Put the 5 speed
differential gearing inside
the
>6 speed transaxle. (assuming the
transaxle uses the same ring gears)
>Thoughts, comments would be welcomed.
As I plan to have a 6 speed in the
car
>by mid
February.
>
>
>Thanks,
>
>>
Brad
>>
>> Check out my home page: http://lonestar.texas.net/~bbedell
>>
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>
>
>
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Date:
Sun, 10 Jan 1999 22:35:57 -0600
From: "Brad Bedell" <bbedell@austin.rr.com>
Subject:
RE: Team3S: Revisiting 5/6speed conversions.
Maybe, if the Ring &
pinion on the diff is the same diameter.. if it is not,
the price is about
2500.00 USD.
I am not sure what the gears cost, however I suspect they are
about
1000-1300.00
Tires are for sure cheaper.
>
Brad
>
> Check out my home page: http://lonestar.texas.net/~bbedell
>
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From: owner-stealth-3000gt@list.sirius.com
[mailto:owner-stealth-3000gt@list.sirius.com]
On Behalf Of Bob Rand
Sent: Sunday, January 10, 1999 10:42 PM
To: stealth-3000gt@list.sirius.com
Subject:
Re: Team3S: Revisiting 5/6speed conversions.
Brad, Wouldnt it be
easier to change the ring and pinion gears is the
differential.
Bob
93
Stealth TT
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From: Brad Bedell <bbedell@austin.rr.com>
To: stealth-3000gt@list.sirius.com
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Date:
Sunday, January 10, 1999 9:35 PM
Subject: Team3S: Revisiting 5/6speed
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Date:
Sun, 10 Jan 1999 21:56:54 -0700
From: "Barry E. King" <beking@home.com>
Subject: RE: Team3S:
Revisiting 5/6speed conversions.
I believe Brad's point is to get the
lower final drive ratio. However,
first gear in the 6 speed equipped
models is already quite low even with the
higher final drive ratio. I
really doubt it is worth it to get the extra 7%
or so reduction.
In
any case, a 1% difference or less between front and rear is closer to
what
you should be after, Brad. I am certain 2% would be too high and
place
rather high demands on the viscous coupling. You could perhaps
get it
closer with more agressive tiore size differences, like 275/35 on the
rear
and maybe 245/45 on the front. Note that with many manufacturers
the 275/40
is the same height as the 245/45. You'll want a wide tire in
the rear with
a lowerprofile to get a more pronounced reduction in height and
therefore
the largest recuction in effective final drive
ratio.
Regards,
Barry
> -----Original
Message-----
>
> Brad, Wouldnt it be easier to change the ring
and pinion gears is the
> differential.
>
> Bob
> 93
Stealth TT
> -----Original Message-----
>
> >For those of
you who like to think way too much, here is some juicy info.
>
>
> >5 speed rear differential: 3.545 gear ratio
>
>6
speed:
3.307 ratio
> >For a difference of 7.2%.
> >
> >What
if one were to put the six speed tranny/transfer case in a
> 5 speed
car
> >with out changing the rear end? What kinds of problems
would exist?
<snipped>
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Date:
Mon, 11 Jan 1999 09:25:45 +0100
From: "=?iso-8859-1?Q?Mikael_=C5kesson?="
<vr4@bahnhof.se>
Subject: RE:
Team3S: Re: Fuel or Manifold Pressure?
Me have a problem. Do we have a
solution ??
- - Lean A/F mix will result in more HP and higher
temperature.
- - Rich A/F will result in lower temp due to the fact that
the unburned fuel will cool the engine on the inside.
As I see it we have
three things that we can do.(or maybe four)
1. Go with rich A/F and loose
power, NOT so good.
2. Use very good Intercoolers and fresh air intake.
This is probably the best way. Cooler air are also more dense (sp?) so you will
get more air into the engine at the same boost and that will produce more HP
without knock. Very good ofcourse.
3. Use water injection. Best of two
worlds but with a few drawbacks. You can go with a lamda 1 or leaner and that is
good for the power. The water will cool the engine internally and that will
prevent knock. This will allow us to have higher boost and that's what we all
want. The draw backs is ofcourse that you have to be sure that you haven't run
out af water because that will result in extreme temps and heavy knock. Another
good thing is that this is a very cost effective mod.
4. I also have a
fourth way but I'm not really sure about this. I think that exhaust cams with
more duration (I hope it's the right word) will result in better flow on the
exhaust side and probably reduce temp ALOT. I think that our original cams are
to moderate and that mitsu thought that the car produced enough HP with
these. This is probably the only really right way to lower the temp and will
result in a better responding engine as well. Any one knowing more about this
???
Regards
Mikael, http://www.bahnhof.se/~vr4
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Date:
Mon, 11 Jan 1999 09:59:17 +0100
From: "=?iso-8859-1?Q?Mikael_=C5kesson?="
<vr4@bahnhof.se>
Subject: RE:
Team3S: Re: Fuel or Manifold Pressure?
Original from Me to the
list
>Me have a problem. Do we have a solution ??
That was
supposed to be: "WE have a problem" not ME.
Anyway....
Now I have
came up with a very good (or maybe very bad idea.)
If you have read my
previous post then you remember about my 4:th suggestion regarding changing
cams. I think that a good replacement cam can be the 3000GT SL cam !!! This will
problably be perfect. N/A cars have more duration on their cams so I gues that
this would be the easiest and most economical way to upgrade the cams.
IS
this totally stupid or is it doable ???????
Mikael "The stupid SWEDE"
(Yes I'm blond) http://www.bahnhof.se/~vr4
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Date:
Mon, 11 Jan 1999 09:26:24 +0000
From: "R.G." <robby@swissonline.ch>
Subject: Re:
Team3S: Car won't start - Answer
> Although, I did need a new coil
(the spark color and intensity improved
> dramatically)
> a leak
down test shows my rings are bad. This was/is the cause of the car not
>
starting. Not as quick a fix to do. Well, I was rebuilding the engine
>
anyway...
So, what was the pressure you measured during the leak down
test ? My rings
where bad too and I never had a problem to start the engine !
IMHO, the rings
cannot be such bad that there is not any
compression.
For the new coil, you mean you replaced the whole coil pack,
did you ?
Regards,
Roger
- -----------------------
Roger
Gerl, Switzerland
93'3000GT TwinTurbo (Animale Rosso)
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Date:
Mon, 11 Jan 1999 10:05:08 +0000
From: "R.G." <robby@swissonline.ch>
Subject: Re:
Team3S: Fuel and Manifold Pressure
> In tank pump - 380.00
> RC
injectors - 84.00 ea.
Hey, cheap things !!
> Apex AFC -
360.00
> If your in the market for big boost, this is the cheapest way
to go withour
> risking major problems. On the plus side, if you
continue to upgrade (it's
> addictive) your good to go on the fuel
side.
If I add my $0.02 I'd also invest in a good EGT meter/probe for the
proper
tune-in.
> Skip the cat back, down pipe, intercoolers, and
blow off valve.
> After fuel, go directly to the turbos.
Indeed,
the exhaust setup on mine has not showed an improvement in power,
but
(theoretically, of course) I still think that a better downpipe helps
in
spooling-up the turbos. It's not really the diameter of the stock pipe but
the
design of how the rear and front gases come together. I also agree on the
BOV
side, although it's good to know that any excess boost is blown off
without a
problem as well as I can check the amount of oil blasted out
(better not again
!)
> This formula has worked great for me (18 psi
on the stock exhaust, down
> pipe, and BOV).
I runned the same
boost level until retard and fuel cut kicked in at 18psi. With
the SBOV I
then felt the car recovering quicker after shifting. Not really a lot
but
somewhat noticeably.
For the exhaust manifold, the book says it right but
also look at the design of
our wastegate, the precats and the downpipe, and I
must say that the jap
ingeneers finally had to watch for space and money more
than building a better
solution. In real life, the headers should be designed
to provide an equal pulse
lenght for each output. Keeping the tubes small to
increase speed is right but
this always produces backpressure and more heat.
If the speed of the gases can
kept high after the turbos I totally agree but
I doubt that this is the case
(maybe better with the guttet cats)
I
just wish that I was of more in the GT Alley deal as I have now parts
lying
around that are not complete and I cannot use them. I just hope to get
a
solution soon, especially on the fuel side
!
Cheers,
Roger
- -----------------------
Roger Gerl,
Switzerland
93'3000GT TwinTurbo (Animale Rosso)
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Date:
Mon, 11 Jan 1999 09:41:39 EST
From: Aso8@aol.com
Subject: Re: Team3S: Car won't
start - Answer
Roger, the loss is about 50% on the leak down. Pretty bad.
Arty
In a message dated 1/11/99 1:18:24 AM Pacific Standard
Time,
robby@swissonline.ch
writes:
<< Subj: Re: Team3S: Car won't start -
Answer
Date: 1/11/99 1:18:24 AM Pacific Standard Time
From: robby@swissonline.ch
(R.G.)
Sender: owner-stealth-3000gt@list.sirius.com
Reply-to:
stealth-3000gt@list.sirius.com
To:
stealth-3000gt@list.sirius.com
>
Although, I did need a new coil (the spark color and intensity
improved
> dramatically)
> a leak down test shows my
rings are bad. This was/is the cause of the car
not
> starting.
Not as quick a fix to do. Well, I was rebuilding the engine
>
anyway...
So, what was the pressure you measured during the
leak down test ? My rings
where bad too and I never had a problem to
start the engine ! IMHO, the rings
cannot be such bad that there is not
any compression.
For the new coil, you mean you replaced the
whole coil pack, did you ?
Regards,
Roger
>>
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Date:
Mon, 11 Jan 1999 08:18:51 -0700
From: "Jeffrey Young" <jefyoung@ix.netcom.com>
Subject:
Re: Team3S: Re: Boost Controllers etc.
>jstump
wrote:
>>
>> Also I am looking to buy an Fuel Control
Unit(Such as HKS vpc). Ifi I get
an HKS VPC do I have to use their duel
filter setup.Thanks
>> for your help.
My web site shows the
setup I used instead of the HKS SUper Megaflo setup.
It cost about $40
and works great.
Jeffrey
92 RT/Turbo
www.omega-sw.com/stealth
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Date:
Mon, 11 Jan 1999 16:27:01 +0000
From: "R.G." <robby@swissonline.ch>
Subject:
Team3S: Front Speaker size question
Friends,
I have the chance to
get a good front speaker set for a great price but I don't
know if it fits.
Can someone please let me know the available space for the
front speakers (I
guess the main speaker is 16cm in diameter) but I need to know
how deep the
system can be. Also I need information regarding the tweeter. Where
is the
capacitor mounted and can I use the stock wires for the connection ? Last
but
not least I need a good idea how to remove the door parts securely as well
as
removing the top grille of the tweeter. Any tricks and tips ?
Sorry for
the dumb questions but I haven't scanned this manual sections.
Thanks in
advance,
Roger
- -----------------------
Roger Gerl,
Switzerland
93'3000GT TwinTurbo (Animale Rosso)
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Date:
Mon, 11 Jan 1999 16:36:39 +0000
From: "R.G." <robby@swissonline.ch>
Subject: Re:
Team3S: Car won't start - Answer
> Roger, the loss is about 50% on the
leak down. Pretty bad.
> Arty
Yes, this is really bad. The three
pistins with the broken rings showed 20% loss
while the one with the broken
landring had a 45% loss.
Good luck for the rebuild,
Roger
-
-----------------------
Roger Gerl, Switzerland
93'3000GT TwinTurbo
(Animale Rosso)
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Date:
Mon, 11 Jan 1999 11:49:02 -0800
From: "Bob Forrest" <bf@bobforrest.com>
Subject: Team3S:
OT: Bay Area Stealth-3000GT Gathering Jan 16th...!!! Final
call...
This is Off-Topic, so please send any replies privately...
-
-----------------------------------------------------------------
To all
Bay Area and Pacific Northwest Stealth & 3000GT owners:
Eric Lotter
(owner of www.3Si.org, and net friend...) from
Massachusetts is
working in Cupertino for most of the month (in anticipation
of possibly
moving here!), so a number of us are getting together for a
short-notice Bay
Area Northwest Gathering (B.A.N.G. '99 #1) in San
Francisco. Depending on
how many more of you are available, so far
we're only planning a one day
gathering for Saturday, January 16th, which
will probably "spill over" to
Sunday, as well.
Here is a list of who's
coming to date...:
Definites...:
Eric Lotter & Melissa
Bob
Forrest & ET (Eileen Thomas)
Rich & Becky Leroy
Chris
Winkley
Billy Nickerson & ?
Satya Palani & ?
Jay Steinberg
& ?
Possibles...:
Scott Alcaide & ?
Rajal (Raj) Oswal
& ?
All plans are tentative, but here's what we have so
far-- We'll get
together on Saturday for a drive to the Marin Headlands
and/or Route 1 North
of the Golden Gate Bridge; we'll take group photos and
individual "car
portraits" and I'll possibly shoot a bit of Digital Video of
the group, as
well. Depending on weather, we'll probably stop at one of
the area beaches
or National Parks for a picnic lunch and checking out the
cars, etc... In
the afternoon, we'll drive back into the city and
assemble at my photo
studio (I have a whole building, lots of room, killer
2700 watt stereo, bar,
pool table...) for a gathering/party; we can either
call out for pizza and
beer (or chinese food, etc...) or go to one of the
local places that ET (my
SO, Eileen Thomas) and I know well (we can get a
group rate for a buffet, or
whatever...).
I've listed ALL the info I
have for all of you below my sig; PLEASE take a
minute to look it over
(whether you can make it or not) to verify your
information. Check out
the names of any friends on the list, too, and email
me privately with info
on people that should be on the list, corrections,
etc...
I look
forward to meeting those of you who I have not met, and finally
putting "the
face to the name" of those of you who are already internet
friends.
Time is of the essence here, so please send in your feedback
ASAP!!!
(Private email to BANG99@bobforrest.com ).
Regards,
and thanks...
Forrest 3Si #100
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Dave
Allison dave@languys.com 1993 3000GT VR-4
Caracas Red San Jose
Mark Cookson mcookson@apple.com 1994 Stealth RT/TT
Albany Black Pearl San
Jose
Eddy G. eddyg@netcom.com 1995 3000GT VR-4 Spyder
Caracas Red Fremont
Bob Forrest bf@bobforrest.com 1994 Stealth NT Firestorm
Red San Francisco
Ken Middaugh middaugh@gak.gat.com middaugh@OMEGA.gat.com 1991 3000GT
VR-4
Albany Black Pearl San Diego
Billy Nickerson billybear@pon.net 1994 Stealth RT/TT
Martinique Yellow Pearl
Rohnert Park
Bill Brandt compren@lightspeed.net 1995 3000GT
Spyder Glacier White Pearl
Bakersfield
Satya Palani satya@gho.st satya@longshadows.com 1992 3000GT Albany
Black
Pearl Pleasant Hill
Kyle Patton flalf@geocities.com 1994 3000GT Albany
Black Pearl Dublin
Steve Saeedi saeedi@netcom.com 1991 Stealth RT Firestorm
Red Clayton
Jay Steinberg jay@wco.com jay_steinberg@cc.chiron.com 1992
3000GT VR-4
Glacier White Pearl Sunnyvale
Colin Yates cyates@lsil.com 1992 Stealth RT/TT Firestorm
Red Almaden
John Eccles eccles@pbi.net 1991 Stealth ES (?color) San
Francisco
Scott Alcaide salcaide@sprintlabs.com 1994 3000GT
VR-4 Burgundy San Mateo
Ryan Peterson rpeterson@rh2.com 1991 3000GT SL Monza Red
Wanatchee, WA
Rich Leroy rleroy@pacifier.com 1994 Stealth RT
Emerald Green Ridgefield, WA
Chris Winkley cwinkley@plaza.ds.adp.com 1995
3000GT VR-4 Glacier Pearl White
Portland, OR
James Retych grnviper@gte.net 1994 Stealth RT/TT Pearl
Yellow Seattle, WA
P.N. "Sankar" Sankarshanan yoss@aracnet.com 1996 VR-4 Black Portland,
OR
Jay "Kamikazee" Connelly Jay.Connelly@intel.com 1993 VR-4
Forrest Green
Portland, OR
Darcy Gunnlaugson wce@bc.sympatico.ca ??? Victoria,
BC
Rajal (Raj) Oswal rajal@netobjects.com ??? Redwood
City
Luis Interiano interian@oeaa.com ??? Fairfield
Roger
Ludwig yiotta@e-z.net ??? PNW
Andrew
K kyokushin@earthlink.net ???
PNW
Casey Bechtolt bechtolt@aone.com ??? PNW
Cameron
Bran cbran@dsinw.com ??? PNW
Errin
Humprhrey errin@u.washington.edu ???
Washington
Dennis Moore stealth@kiva.net
Dan Legate dlegate@rsa.csuhayward.edu
Chris
Minard pnut@pacbell.net
Brian
Menges brian.m.menges@lmco.com
Sam
Wong Sam_Wong@hyperdream.com
Barry
E. King beking@home.com
Eric
Uratchko "Keman" keman@ix.netcom.com
formerly, 1991 Stealth R/T Teal,
now 1998 Escort ZX2
Andy F0l3nF0l3i@aol.com
Andy Tsai 1997
3000GT VR-4 Albany Black Pearl Palo Alto
Jimmy Tsai 1992 3000GT VR-4 Silver
San Jose
Charlie McCracken 1996 3000GT VR-4 Albany Black Pearl San
Diego
Matt Oliver 1994 Stealth RT/TT Blue Green Saratoga
Derick Miller
1993 3000GT VR-4 Albany Black Pearl Cupertino
Joe C. 1994 3000GT SL Albany
Black Pearl San Ramon
David Chen 1994 3000GT VR-4 Martinique Yellow Pearl
Cupertino
Brian Gray 1992 Stealth RT/TT Glacier White Pearl San
Francisco
Chris Maxwell 1992 Stealth RT/TT Blue Green Cupertino
John Boyd
1992 Stealth RT/TT Firestorm Red Davis
Ho Tran
Dave
Holden
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Date:
Mon, 11 Jan 1999 20:49:05 +0100
From: Matthews <matthews@wiesbaden.netsurf.de>
Subject:
Re: Team3S: Fuel and Manifold Pressure
Trent wrote:
>
>
According to my I.C. engineering text, severe knock can spike pressure to
2x
> normal pressure. As temp. is a fuction of pressure, knock will
cause the
> cylinder head temp. to spike also, leading to more knock
etc.
On page 9 of High Performance Honda Builder's Handbook (by Joe
Pettitt,
but I think this section is by Rob Smith, the owner of
RPS):
"Detonation will kill your engine. What's interesting about
detonation
is how high it spikes the cylinder pressure. As soon as you
detonate,
the usual 1800 PSI goes to more than 4000 PSI. It's
uncontrolled, and
that's what breaks a ring land, kills the bearings and can
lift a
cylinder head."
-Jim
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Suspension, Adjustable Exhaust System
K&N FIPK, A'PEXi Super AVC-R (1.0
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A'PEXi Turbo Timer (30 sec), Bosch Winged
Wipers
Magnecore spark plug wires, Redline ShockProof fluids
Metal Matrix
brake pads, custom braided brake lines
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Date:
Mon, 11 Jan 1999 12:58:00 -0800
From: Ken Middaugh <middaugh@omega.gat.com>
Subject:
Team3S: VR4 Starter Replacement
Has anyone ever replaced their 1st gen
VR4 starter? What are the steps
involved. I tried to do mine
Saturday, but the starter is surrounded by
some kind of shield that I
couldn't figure out how to easily remove.
The only mention of starter
removal and installation in the manual is in
the transaxel removal and
installation section. Is there an easier way?
Thanks,
Ken
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General Atomics
San Diego
(619) 455-4510
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Date:
Mon, 11 Jan 1999 16:56:32 -0500 (EST)
From: Dennis Moore <stealth@kiva.net>
Subject: Team3S: A/F
questions
Regarding A/F ratios, is this something the engine computer
*measures* or
*calculates*? Is there an "A/F Ratio Probe" that sits
around detecting
the blend, or does the computer take input from the air flow
sensor and
injectors/pump and calculate the ratio?
Thanks.
Dennis Moore
stealth@kiva.net
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Date:
Mon, 11 Jan 1999 17:03:30 -0500
From: "Bob Fontana" <bfontana@securitytechnologies.com>
Subject:
RE: Team3S: A/F questions
Actually, ECU never really knows what the A/F
ratio is. It just knows when
the ratio is too rich or too lean.
It decides this based on voltages
produced by the 02 sensors.
Unfortunatly, the standard 02 sensors have too
steep of a voltage drop right
at the precise A/F ratio where it's most
important: 14.7:1. Voltage
levels out on each side of optimal ratio, so
the computer is easily
able to convert "too lean" to "add a splash" and too
rich to "hold off on a
splash".
- -Bob
> Regarding A/F ratios, is this something the
engine computer *measures* or
> *calculates*? Is there an "A/F Ratio
Probe" that sits around detecting
> the blend, or does the computer take
input from the air flow sensor and
> injectors/pump and calculate the
ratio? Thanks.
>
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Date:
Mon, 11 Jan 1999 16:13:04 -0700
From: "Palamara, Peter" <pala@gwl.com>
Subject: Team3S: need
wheel
I was curious if any one knows of or a place for used wheels??? The
last
snow storm here in Colorado made my car go straight instead of
turning
and I hit a curb hard enough that the wheel cannot be repaired.
I'm
trying to find a chrome vr-4 wheel for model year 1992 in
excellent
condition. Thanx
Pete Palamara
1992 3000
VR-4
303-689-4733
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Date:
Mon, 11 Jan 1999 16:51:49 -0800
From: wce@bc.sympatico.ca
Subject: Re:
Team3S: A/F questions
Hey Bob;
Am I reading between the lines
right when I note the use of "standard 02 sensors"? Is
there a better
sensor available that you'd recomend, and why?
Darc
Bob
Fontana wrote:
> Actually, ECU never really knows what the A/F ratio
is. It just knows when
> the ratio is too rich or too lean. It
decides this based on voltages
> produced by the 02 sensors.
Unfortunatly, the standard 02 sensors have too
> steep of a voltage drop
right at the precise A/F ratio where it's most
> important: 14.7:1.
Voltage levels out on each side of optimal ratio, so
> the computer
is easily able to convert "too lean" to "add a splash" and too
> rich to
"hold off on a splash".
>
> -Bob
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