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Team3S Digest
Saturday, January 9 1999 Volume 01 :
Number
069
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Date:
Fri, 08 Jan 1999 13:13:25 -0600
From: Todd Schmalzried <tschmal@imd.cig.mot.com>
Subject:
Re: Team3S: Letter to Federal Trade Commission (long)
Bob,
I for
one appreciate all your hard work in this matter. This was a very
good
letter. I hope you are successful. There are many of us out here rooting
for
you/us. Maybe with several complaints they will finally help us. I
would
also like to say thanks to Bill W. and any other people who have
been
working on this.
Now my obligatory question. Is the shifter knob
shorter on later years? I
know the shifter itself is. I cut about 1" out of
mine over Christmas and
it's a vast improvement. I'm looking for about
another 1/2".
Thanks
Todd
Bob Fontana wrote:
>
>
Here is a copy of a letter I sent to the Federal Trade Commission
regarding
> the Chrysler-Mitsubishi-Getrag arrangement.
>
>
-Bob
>
- --
Todd
Schmalzried
tschmal@imd.cig.mot.com
- -You "put your 2 cents in" but
only get "a penny for your thoughts"
- -Who gets the change? Think about
it. O-
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Date:
Fri, 8 Jan 1999 14:29:21 -0500
From: "Bob Fontana" <bfontana@securitytechnologies.com>
Subject:
RE: Team3S: Letter to Federal Trade Commission (long)
First, let me say
that Jack Tertadian has written several letters to
Mitsubishi and has spend
countless nickels calling Getrag on our behalf. I
decided to take the
tougher approach because my own tranny (that I paid
$4365 for) has started to
come apart after 2000 miles. I'm tired of playing
games.
As for
the shorter lever on newer versions, my understanding is that the
94-and-up
models indeed have a shorter throw. A few others had made the
the
replacement with good results. I might do it myself in a month or
so. Best
thing to do is post the question out on the technical list,
asking "Who has
replaced their 91-93 shifters with a 94+ shift lever and what
was involved
in the swap?" Seems like I saw a post on that very subject
recently.
- -Bob
> I for one appreciate all your hard work in
this matter. This was
> a very good
> letter. I hope you are
successful. There are many of us out here
> rooting for
> you/us.
Maybe with several complaints they will finally help us. I would
> also
like to say thanks to Bill W. and any other people who have been
> working
on this.
>
> Now my obligatory question. Is the shifter knob shorter
on later years? I
> know the shifter itself is. I cut about 1" out of mine
over Christmas and
> it's a vast improvement. I'm looking for about
another 1/2".
>
> Thanks
> Todd
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Date:
Fri, 8 Jan 1999 15:42:09 EST
From: Aso8@aol.com
Subject: Team3S: A new Coil is
only $140.00
Just in case anyone else is curious...
I just bought a
new Coil for my 91 VR-4.
List price was only $140.00. A pleasant
surprise.
I needed it fast and I know I could have gotten it cheeper
from
Talla Mitsub if I was willing to wait. I glad the
Coils are not made by
Getrag. hehe
Arty 91 VR-4
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Date:
Fri, 8 Jan 1999 13:30:25 -0800
From: "Bill" <compren@lightspeed.net>
Subject:
Re: Team3S: Re: Wastegate Actuators?
Totally unhook the wastegate
actuator (pressure) line from the boost
controller
>to the
wastegates. Then, car should run "unlimited" boost; if it does,
>it
is a boost controller problem.
Did and it didn't run unlimited
boost
>of course, you have a good quality boost guage hooked up
without a leak in
ITS line...
yup
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Date:
Fri, 8 Jan 1999 13:33:03 -0800
From: "Bill" <compren@lightspeed.net>
Subject:
Re: Team3S: Fw: Wastegate Actuators?
At the time HKS was advertising the
ssbov, not shipping them, not a nice
practice...
- -----Original
Message-----
>I think I'd rather invest $278 in the HKS ssbov
and have no leaks and no
>hoot noise.
>Frank
>www.acceleratedaccessories.com
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Date:
Fri, 8 Jan 1999 16:42:12 -0500
From: "Meyer" <meyer2@erols.com>
Subject: Team3S: To:
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Date:
Fri, 8 Jan 1999 17:22:20 EST
From: GC3000GT@aol.com
Subject: Team3S: Updated
my web page - check it out!
Hey guys,
Don't worry - I haven't fell
off the face of the earth....i've been lurking
for a while now, but I finally
got access to a scanner, and scanned in some
pics of my car. Everything
from my stereo install (not everything, but it's a
start), to my fog lights,
to just general pics. Take a look!!
My main page is at:
http://members.tripod.com/gcouture
My
Car is located at:
http://members.tripod.com/gcouture/my3k
Please
visit, and sign the guesbook!! I'd love to hear your comments.
Don't
forget to update your links too! :)
Thanks,
Gregg
3SI# 0015
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Date:
Fri, 8 Jan 1999 18:22:26 -0500
From: "Trent" <rtrent@nlci.com>
Subject: Team3S: Re:
Fuel or Manifold Pressure?
- -----Original Message-----
From: R.G.
<robby@swissonline.ch>
To: stealth-3000gt@list.sirius.com
<stealth-3000gt@list.sirius.com>
Date:
Friday, January 08, 1999 5:28 AM
Subject: Re: Team3S: 2500-3000 Flat
spot
> >If you are just going to add fuel and more fuel you'll
misuse the fuel
too much
>and therefore not getting the most power out
of it.
I cant agree with this Roger, if you dont add fuel, you can't
safely run
high boost without risking high EGT's and knock. If I new
then what I know
now, I would have installed bigger injectors even before
installing the
boost controller.
>the exhaust manifold to be sure
going the safe way !!! As you have removed
the
>precats a big
restriction is gone and therefore the pressure in the
manifold
>should
be lower.
Gutting the precats did nothing to improve my boost or high
EGT's.
Detonation is our enemy and we have to limit the
restrictions
>first before applying more fuel.
All the exhaust
energy used to drive the turbine comes during the power
stroke. The
exhaust valve is opened long before BDC, especially in turbo
cars. By
doing so, the residual combustion pressure is relieved through
the
manifold. The pressure difference is so great that I suspect
switching to a
bigger manifold won't make that much difference if your still
running
through a 13g or 15g turbine. Additionally, so much expansion
cooling takes
place during the blowdown phase that what exhaust gas is
remaining will have
dropped in temp. anyway.
FUEL IS THE KEY.
These cars need to run way past stoiciometric (rich). In
conversations
with an engine designer recently, he mentioned that rich
combustion burns
significantly faster and HOTTER. I mentioned that my
experience clearly
indicated that rich runs cooler. Since he is an avid
drag racing fan,
he said he was aware of this in racing applications and
attributed this to
the excess fuel absorbing heat as well as preventing heat
generated by knock
(a lot!). I don't think the exhaust manifold is the
problem, it's
possible that switching to a bigger manifold will only
increase boost
lag.
Regards,
DaveT/92TT
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Date:
Fri, 08 Jan 1999 19:49:38 -0800
From: wce@bc.sympatico.ca
Subject: Team3S:
Letters
Jim and Bob;
Great letters! Impeccable! What that
the rest of the world forgot about
these magnificent cars, you haven't...and
we haven't here. Keep us
posted on the
results.
Best
Darc
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Date:
Fri, 08 Jan 1999 20:23:43 -0800
From: wce@bc.sympatico.ca
Subject: Re:
Team3S: Re: Wastegate Actuators?
From the descriptions to date, and the
process of elimination, it seems the wastegate
has to be frozen
open (mechanical, not a pressure related problem.) Then again,
if
that's eliminated in due corse, it could be just about anything...but the
upside is that
we have a lot of really good on line help here :
)
Best of luck
Darc
Bill wrote:
> Totally
unhook the wastegate actuator (pressure) line from the boost
>
controller
> >to the wastegates. Then, car should run "unlimited"
boost; if it does,
> >it is a boost controller problem.
>
>
Did and it didn't run unlimited boost
>
> >of course, you have a
good quality boost guage hooked up without a leak in
> ITS
line...
>
> yup
>
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Date:
Sat, 9 Jan 1999 13:03:01 -0500
From: "Bob Fontana" <bfontana@securitytechnologies.com>
Subject:
Team3S: URL for FTC
Hi,
Here is the URL for the Federal Trade
Commission:
http://www.ftc.gov
For now, I think that
our plight falls under the category of "Bureau of
Competition", whose URL
is:
http://www.ftc.gov/ftc/bcmail.htm
There
is an email address there:
antitrust@ftc.gov
That's where you
can direct your letters. The issue to convey is our
inability to
buy replacement parts. Complaints about transfer case lockups,
etc.,
are not this agency's job and will tend to confuse the issue.
Personal
experience, i.e., "I have a worn synchro, can't drive my car and
the
dealership is quoting me $5500 to fix it!" is good fodder for
your
letters.
Please keep to the point, try to eliminate spelling and
grammer errors (make
sure Word 97 doesn't change "transaxle" to
"transsexual") and leave your
name and phone numbers.
-
-Bob
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Date:
Thu, 7 Jan 1999 03:21:37 -0800
From: "bill" <compren@lightspeed.net>
Subject:
Re: Team3S: Re: Wastegate Actuators?
Are you kidding, you guys are beyond
the best for helping some poor guy try
to make their car work. Having
dealt with people who don't have a clue
about computers while I try to help
them I know how frustrating it can be...
- -thanks to all
-
-Bill
>Then again, if that's eliminated in due corse, it could be just
about
anything...but the upside is that
>we have a lot of really good
on line help here : )
>
>
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