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Team3S Digest        Wednesday, January 6 1999        Volume 01 : Number 066




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Date: Tue, 5 Jan 1999 10:34:11 -0500 (EST)
From: Dennis Moore <stealth@kiva.net>
Subject: Re: Team3S: RE: cool air intake idea

Yes, it is the RamAir.  I recently asked him about the foglight removal,
and that only applies to pre-94 vehicles.  I guess 94+ went to smaller
foglights which don't block the opening as badly.  He said that an option
for pre-94 owners is to upgrade the fogs at the same time you install his
kit, installing something smaller.  He recommended a PIAA model, but I
don't have the model number at my fingertips.

The guy has been running it on his vehicle for about a year, and no
adverse development.  I'm not sure what his plans are for marketing the
kit.

The URL is still down, I'll let you know when it's up.

Dennis Moore
stealth@kiva.net

Change is disruptive - but that's the point!

On Mon, 4 Jan 1999, Bob Forrest wrote:

> If it's the prototype "RamAire"™ system you're talking about, much of what
> they claimed for a HP gain was attributable to the K&N alone, and the system
> required removal of the fog lights, which I found unacceptable.  An

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Date: Tue, 5 Jan 1999 18:46:08 -0500
From: nxiong@juno.com
Subject: Team3S: Cold weather notchiness?

1st off I'd like to say I love this list and I'm saddened by Chris
Dotur's decision to sell his car.  I met Chris & car during the 97 Nopi
Nationals.  Cool guy, cool car, cool color too.

Yesterday, the first time in the hi-teens for GA, I noticed very hard
shifting (sand box comes to mind).  Is this purely weather-related?  or
is it time to change my tranny fluid?    As the car is driven for a
little while, the notchiness seems to go away.  I presently have BG
synchro in there.  Been almost 2 years since I last filled it.

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Date: Tue, 5 Jan 1999 15:09:35 -0800
From: Chris Winkley <cwinkley@plaza.ds.adp.com>
Subject: RE: Team3S: Cold weather notchiness?

- -----Original Message-----
From: nxiong@juno.com [mailto:nxiong@juno.com]
Sent: Tuesday, January 05, 1999 3:46 PM
To: stealth-3000gt@list.sirius.com
Subject: Team3S: Cold weather notchiness?
<snip>

Yesterday, the first time in the hi-teens for GA, I noticed very hard
shifting (sand box comes to mind).  Is this purely weather-related?  or
is it time to change my tranny fluid?    As the car is driven for a
little while, the notchiness seems to go away.  I presently have BG
synchro in there.  Been almost 2 years since I last filled it.

<end of snip>
==============================
nxiong (sorry, don't know your name)...

It wouldn't hurt to check the level, but my bet is on the ambient air
temperature. My shifter gets considerably stiffer when it's down in the 20s
(F), and that "notchy" feeling (which is the thing I like least about the
VR4) get worse. Mine feels "normal" when the air temps are above 60 and/or
having been driven for at least 15 minutes.

Ah well, the price we pay for having an INCREDIBLE car.  :-)

Looking forward...Chris

"Friends don't let friends ride with me"

1995 Glacier Pearl White VR4
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Date: Tue, 5 Jan 1999 16:01:20 -0800
From: "Gross, Erik" <erik.gross@intel.com>
Subject: Team3S: Resonator Affecting Gas Mileage?

Just a question for anyone out there who has a NA car and watches their gas
mileage...

I removed my intake resonator (at the same time I replaced my fuel filter),
and since then, I've been getting 1-1.5 mpg less, on average (about 2000mi
worth).  I haven't found the fuel lines to/from the fuel filter to be
leaking, and I know the ECU was reset because it idled at 2500RPM for about
30 sec when I reinstalled the fuel filter, battery, etc.   I would think
that the resonator removal would have either a neutral or positive effect on
fuel economy (reducing intake turbulence).  And I know the new fuel filter
should be neutral/positive with respect to fuel economy.

Here's what I get now:

22-23mpg  some highway, some city, driving like an idiot sometimes (love
them stoplights:)
23-25mpg  some highway, some city, driving normally/nicer/higher gears
27-29mpg  long trips(full load of crap + 2 people) w/ cruise control  (this
summer)

I haven't gone on any long trips recently, but the 1st two ranges above were
1-1.5mpg higher about 4 months ago(before the resonator removal and fuel
filter replacement).  I haven't done anything else to the car recently other
than that.  Comments, ideas anyone?

- --Erik
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Date: Tue, 05 Jan 1999 16:36:27 -0800
From: wce@bc.sympatico.ca
Subject: Team3S: shudder

Hi Guys;

I still seem to be experiencing the same problem...a near subtle rear
end shudder at WOT....that is it's not imagination and can be felt.
This may or may not be normal, so I thought I'd check again with you all
and see if any of you have any vibration like this kick in when you open
it up. I nearly posted off group to a few of you, but thought answers in
the archives might be worth having.

Can this  may be  turbo related:  the rear end  responds to the same as
it grabs/spins and gives a shudder as wheel grab or spin occurs?  Anying
like this at all occur on your cars??

It is a steady acceleration until shudder which is a second, not likely
two, in duration, with acceleration occurring through it and after. .
My miles are low and have not been hard miles since I bought it, but who
knows, the first owner may have had his foot into it. If normal, I can
live with it, but if not, it is really gnawing at my butt. Comparisons,
checks,  or ideas appreciated.

Best

Darc

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Date: Tue, 05 Jan 1999 20:23:39 -0600
From: xwing <xwing@execpc.com>
Subject: Team3S: [Fwd: Re: Transmission problems (long)]

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This message contains the most pertinent info re:  transaxle
rebuilders/costs etc.  To update, Mitsu Japan has passed the buck to
Mitsu America (got an Airmail from Mitsu Japan about a week ago from M.
Miyashita, Manager, Field Service North America apologizing and
directing me to MMSAmerica) and Mitsu America called me (at work!) and
said no parts are available because of contract with Getrag, that Getrag
had wanted it this way; that no parts are available therefore Mitsu
sells no parts.  This time, as I asked, Mitsu Motors America also sent
me a LETTER...I am going back to Getrag to see if THEY will initiate
something/how to move forward.  There has been one rumbling that a
solution MAY be on the horizon; if so, Mitsu SEEMS to know nothing about
it!  I will be contacting Getrag (A G A I N) tomorrow...

Jack Tertadian
Still Fighting the Good Fight (I hope)

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From: "Jones, Steve" <stevej@ncgroup.com>
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Subject: RE: Transmission problems (long)
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Well, as requested below, here is what I ended up doing.  The price info
for all the suggestions below was added by me.

Since Dodge thoroughly irritated me by not paying for any part of
replacing a tranny wth 20,000 miles on it (1 year old), I basically told
them to kiss my !@#$.  I told the Chrysler rep that I would do
everything in my power to see that Dodge would get NO money for this
repair. 

Next, I began to explore the options listed below.  The only one I
considered was having the tranny rebuilt by Southern Gear.  However, no
Dodge or Mitsubishi dealer would put it in because it wasn't one of
their parts.  I talked to a few people who said putting it in was beyond
my mechanical expertise, so my only real option was to go through a
dealer.

To keep up my end of the bargain (that Dodge would see no money for this
tranny repair), I then called around and had my 92 Stealth RT/TT towed
to a Mitsubishi Dealer.

What the Dodge dealer recommeded changing is listed below.  The
Mitsubishi dealer suggested doing the same, but said the Slave Cylinder
Assembly did not need replaced.  The Dodge Dealer quoted me around $5600
and the Mitsu Dealer quoted me around $5500.  Naturally, it gets more
interesting.  On Monday the Mitsu dealer calls me and says that I also
need a new Transfer Case Assembly.  I then proceed to tell them that I
already knew that and that was included in the original quote.  They
tell me that it was not included.  They then wanted me to pay for it
anyways (they wanted another $1200).  I argued that I told them I needed
it, and much to my surprise, they discounted all of the parts enough
that the total repair was very close to the original price they quoted
me.

>From this point forward, that Mitsubishi dealer will get to do all the
work on my Stealth from here on out.  Incedently, they did screw up my
Viper car alarm.  Fortunately, it turned out to be a burnt fuse which
was easily fixed.

                                                                __
_____ 
Steve Jones
mailto:steve.jones@ncgroup.com
NC Group/CompuCom Systems, Inc. http://www.ncgroup.com
The  Source    for   Technology  Deployment  Processes  &  Standards

> -----Original Message-----
> From: xwing [SMTP:xwing@execpc.com]
> Sent: Wednesday, December 10, 1997 2:12 PM
> To: stealth@starnet.net
> Subject: Re: Transmission problems
>
> Jones, Steve wrote:
> > Dodge to replace my
> > transmission (1 year old 25,000 miles) grinding inside.
> > $5,600 to do it.   Chrysler are unwilling to help.
> > 1.      Is that a reasonable price?
> > 2.      They could not order individual parts for
> > the transmission, have to replace entire unit regardless of
> > what was wrong.  Is that true?
> > Steve Jones
>
> Steve:
> From prior list letters, here are other options (I can't vouch for
> accuracy):
>
> 1) Southern Gear in Smyrna, GA 1-770-435-1461 can fix yours for $250
> labor plus parts, the letterwriter said $1850 total cost plus
> shipping.
> $350 labor : max $3,500
> Gator Freight from Columbus, OH: $50,  1-2 days
> 1-2 Weeks
>
> 2) "New transmission" available from IMPEX 1-800-736-3550 for $3250
> Called - No New ones available, Used - None available
> Said he would call me if any popped up
>
> 3) Lou Fusz Mitsubishi dealer 1-800-528-2525 ask for Greg, Marty, (or
> ? 1-914-353-2100 ask
>    for Terry) take 25% off Mitsu list, say are member of 3S mailing
> list
> Tranny - $3740 Plus shipping
>
> 4) MAG Auto Parts used transmissions etc 1-800-229-1001 but personally
> I wouldn't go through all the $ and trouble to put in a nonrebuilt
> used trans...
> New only, Tranny $3,700 Plus $150-$200 Shipping
>
> 5) Local Dodge Dealer who I took it to:
> New Transaxle - $3,200
> Pressure Plate - $146
> Clutch Disk - $85
> Throughout Bearing - $59
> Resurface Flywheel - $75
> Transfer Case Assembly - $870
> Gear Lube $142.50
> Slave Cylinder Assembly $103
>
>
> Good luck, let us all know what route you end up going and how much
> cost; this is good information for us all, and the more people who do
> it
> the better our chances of finding the CHEAPEST way!
>
> Jack Tertadian


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Date: Tue, 05 Jan 1999 20:31:48 -0600
From: xwing <xwing@execpc.com>
Subject: Re: Team3S: shudder

wce@bc.sympatico.ca wrote:
> experiencing problem subtle rear end shudder at WOT can be felt.
> This may or may not be normal, vibration kick in when open
> it up. 
> steady acceleration until shudder a second, not likely
> two duration, with acceleration occurring through it and after

Dunno.  Consider emptying your xfer case, check the magnet on the
drainplug for UGLY LARGE PIECES of gear; change to Redline Shockproof
Heavy gear oil (if haven't already).  My car had a juddery feel
sometimes, especially notable at low speed, when xfer case ran out of
fluid and gears inside were selfdestructing.  Yours doesn't really sound
like that...would have been toast long ago if was, I believe.  I have
never had the output shaft splines totally shear off the transaxle
output-to-transfer case, but if it was trying to apply torque to rearend
I suppose it could slip and judder like that.  Dunno.  Otherwise, ignore
away!
Jack T.
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Date: Tue, 05 Jan 1999 19:09:55 -0800
From: wce@bc.sympatico.ca
Subject: Re: Team3S: shudder/Getrag

Thanx Jack;

Will follow your shudder advise. And, thanks as well for hounding Mitsu/Getrag for us
all. With any sense they will acquiesce to your tenacity and start to avail parts as
they should have from the outset. Mitsu has balls the size of B.B's if they really did
allow Getrag to dictate the rules for a Mitsu car. Didn't someone post recently that
Chrysler was supposed to be making these transmission parts now available?? Seems I read
something on it somewhere (thought it was here)  and I thought the big merger had served
a useful purpose after all.

Thanks again...will investigate.

Darc

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Date: Tue, 5 Jan 1999 23:47:28 -0500
From: "Bob Fontana" <bfontana@securitytechnologies.com>
Subject: RE: Team3S: shudder/Getrag

As far as I know, Getrag doesn't even produce trannys for our cars anymore.
The 1999 model year was the last that they did and then production was
halted.  Their facility in NC is now being readied for production for some
other vehicles.  They are very interested in getting out of the
Mitsu/Chrysler "440" transaxle business.  Stay tuned.

- -Bob

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Date: Wed, 06 Jan 1999 09:21:29 +0000
From: "R.G." <robby@swissonline.ch>
Subject: Re: Team3S: shudder/Getrag

The last talk I had with a Mitsu rep here in Switzerland I spoke with him about
the synchro problems and asked him if it is still necessary to change the whole
tranny due to the fact that Getrag doesn't sell parts for it. He then told me
that this is not the case anymore and the Mitsu dealers in Switzerland and
Germany are able to get any tranny part for our cars !

With about 45'000km on the meter I felt that the car became more a FWD than AWD
as the front tires slipped when accelerating heavily. The cause was the worn
spline and Getrag sent immediately a new tranny because it was impossible to get
all the small metallic particles out of the box. Mitsu then sent the tranny back
to Getrag. My only cost was the tranny oil !

Today, Getrag doesn't send the trannies around anymore if there is a chance that
it is repairable. They just had a problem with a '96 3000GT imported from the
States (yellow one) and also had to change the spline and synchros. A
specialized tranny shop in the area did the job for the Mitsu dealer with parts
coming from Getrag.

The rep from Mitsu didn't knew anything about Getrag ending with its production
but he told me that they developed a new, lighter but stronger 6-speed tranny on
specs of Mitsu. They could be for the 2.5l TwinTurbo AWD Legnum.

Later,
Roger

- -----------------------
Roger Gerl, Switzerland
93'3000GT TwinTurbo (Animale Rosso)

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Date: Wed, 6 Jan 1999 00:31:15 -0800
From: "Bob Forrest" <bf@bobforrest.com>
Subject: Team3S: OT: Bay Area Stealth-3000GT Gathering Jan 16th...!!!

This is Off-Topic, so please send any replies privately...
- -----------------------------------------------------------------

To all Bay Area and Pacific Northwest Stealth & 3000GT owners:

Eric Lotter (owner of 3Si.org, and net friend...) from Massachusetts is
working in Cupertino for most of the month (in anticipation of possibly
moving here!), so Eric, Satya and I are trying to put together a
short-notice Bay Area Northwest Gathering (B.A.N.G. '99).  Depending on how
many of you are available, we're only planning a one day gathering for
Saturday, January 16th, but we may do something on Sunday, as well.

All plans are tentative, but here's what we have so far--  We'll get
together on Saturday for a drive to the Marin Headlands and/or Route 1 North
of the Golden Gate Bridge; we'll take group photos and individual "car
portraits" and I'll possibly shoot a bit of Digital Video of the group, as
well.  Depending on weather, we'll probably stop at one of the area beaches
or National Parks for a picnic lunch and checking out the cars, etc...  In
the afternoon, we'll drive back into the city and assemble at my photo
studio (I have a whole building, lots of room, killer 2700 watt stereo, bar,
pool table...) for a gathering/party; we can either call out for pizza and
beer (or chinese food, etc...) or go to one of the local places that ET (my
SO, Eileen Thomas) and I know well (we can get a group rate for a buffet, or
whatever...).  If there are enough of us (and we are all free the next day),
I may try to get us passes for Sears Point (1 hour north) for Sunday, but
it's pretty short notice, and I haven't even checked it out yet...

I've listed ALL the info I have for all of you below my sig; PLEASE take a
minute to look it over (whether you can make it or not) to verify your
information.  Check out the names of any friends on the list, too, and email
me privately with info on people that should be on the list, corrections,
etc...

I look forward to meeting those of you who I have not met, and finally
putting "the face to the name" of those of you who are already internet
friends.  Time is of the essence here, so please send in your feedback
ASAP!!!  (Private email to BANG99@bobforrest.com ).

Regards, and thanks...

Forrest  3Si #100

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The Bay Area and PNW Stealth & 3000GT Owners List (incomplete)
- ----------------------------------------------------------------------------

Dave Allison dave@languys.com dallison@siebel.com 1993 3000GT VR-4 Caracas
Red San Jose

Mark Cookson mcookson@apple.com 1994 Stealth RT/TT Albany Black Pearl San
Jose

Eddy G. eddyg@netcom.com 1995 3000GT VR-4 Spyder Caracas Red Fremont

Bob Forrest bf@bobforrest.com 1994 Stealth NT Firestorm Red San Francisco

Ken Middaugh middaugh@gak.gat.com middaugh@OMEGA.gat.com 1991 3000GT VR-4
Albany Black Pearl Valley Center

Billy Nickerson billybear@pon.net 1994 Stealth RT/TT Martinique Yellow Pearl
Rohnert Park

Bill Brandt compren@lightspeed.net 1995 3000GT Spyder Glacier White Pearl
Bakersfield

Satya Palani satya@gho.st satya@longshadows.com 1992 3000GT Albany Black
Pearl Pleasant Hill

Kyle Patton flalf@geocities.com 1994 3000GT Albany Black Pearl Dublin

Steve Saeedi saeedi@netcom.com 1991 Stealth RT Firestorm Red Clayton

Jay Steinberg jay@wco.com jay_steinberg@cc.chiron.com 1992 3000GT VR-4
Glacier White Pearl Sunnyvale

Colin Yates cyates@lsil.com 1992 Stealth RT/TT Firestorm Red Almaden

John Eccles eccles@pbi.net 1991 Stealth ES (?color) San Francisco


Scott Alcaide salcaide@sprintlabs.com 1994 3000GT VR-4 Burgundy San Mateo

Ryan Peterson rpeterson@rh2.com 1991 3000GT SL Monza Red Wanatchee, WA


Rich Leroy rleroy@pacifier.com 1994 Stealth RT Emerald Green Ridgefield, WA

Chris Winkley cwinkley@plaza.ds.adp.com 1995 3000GT VR-4 Glacier Pearl White
Portland, OR

James Retych grnviper@gte.net 1994 Stealth RT/TT Pearl Yellow Seattle, WA

P.N. "Sankar" Sankarshanan yoss@aracnet.com 1996 VR-4 Black Portland, OR

Jay "Kamikazee" Connelly Jay.Connelly@intel.com 1993 VR-4 Forrest Green
Portland, OR

Darcy Gunnlaugson wce@bc.sympatico.ca ??? Victoria, BC

Rajal (Raj) Oswal rajal@netobjects.com ??? Redwood City


Luis Interiano interian@oeaa.com ??? Fairfield

Roger Ludwig yiotta@e-z.net ??? PNW

Andrew K kyokushin@earthlink.net ??? PNW

Casey Bechtolt bechtolt@aone.com ??? PNW

Cameron Bran cbran@dsinw.com ??? PNW

Errin Humprhrey errin@u.washington.edu ??? Washington

Dennis Moore stealth@kiva.net

Dan Legate dlegate@rsa.csuhayward.edu

Chris Minard pnut@pacbell.net

Brian Menges brian.m.menges@lmco.com

Bill Miller millebi@kw.igs.net

Sam Wong Sam_Wong@hyperdream.com

Barry E. King beking@home.com

Eric Uratchko "Keman" keman@ix.netcom.com formerly, 1991 Stealth R/T Teal,
now 1998 Escort ZX2

Andy F0l3nF0l3i@aol.com

Andy Tsai 1997 3000GT VR-4 Albany Black Pearl Palo Alto
Jimmy Tsai 1992 3000GT VR-4 Silver San Jose
Charlie McCracken 1996 3000GT VR-4 Albany Black Pearl San Diego
Matt Oliver 1994 Stealth RT/TT Blue Green Saratoga
Derick Miller 1993 3000GT VR-4 Albany Black Pearl Cupertino
Joe C. 1994 3000GT SL Albany Black Pearl San Ramon
David Chen 1994 3000GT VR-4 Martinique Yellow Pearl Cupertino
Brian Gray 1992 Stealth RT/TT Glacier White Pearl San Francisco
Chris Maxwell 1992 Stealth RT/TT Blue Green Cupertino
John Boyd 1992 Stealth RT/TT Firestorm Red Davis
Ho Tran
Dave Holden






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Date: Wed, 6 Jan 1999 07:45:55 -0500
From: "Meyer" <meyer2@erols.com>
Subject: Re: Team3S: shudder/Getrag

I dont know anyone who has used this shop but supposedly NYmaxxNY@aol.com
works for a shop that has rebuilt getrag trans and t-cases.
Frank
www.acceleratedaccessories.com
- -----Original Message-----
From: R.G. <robby@swissonline.ch>
To: stealth-3000gt@list.sirius.com <stealth-3000gt@list.sirius.com>
Date: Wednesday, January 06, 1999 3:35 AM
Subject: Re: Team3S: shudder/Getrag


>The last talk I had with a Mitsu rep here in Switzerland I spoke with him
about
>the synchro problems and asked him if it is still necessary to change the
whole
>tranny due to the fact that Getrag doesn't sell parts for it. He then told
me
>that this is not the case anymore and the Mitsu dealers in Switzerland and
>Germany are able to get any tranny part for our cars !
>
>With about 45'000km on the meter I felt that the car became more a FWD than
AWD
>as the front tires slipped when accelerating heavily. The cause was the
worn
>spline and Getrag sent immediately a new tranny because it was impossible
to get
>all the small metallic particles out of the box. Mitsu then sent the tranny
back
>to Getrag. My only cost was the tranny oil !
>
>Today, Getrag doesn't send the trannies around anymore if there is a chance
that
>it is repairable. They just had a problem with a '96 3000GT imported from
the
>States (yellow one) and also had to change the spline and synchros. A
>specialized tranny shop in the area did the job for the Mitsu dealer with
parts
>coming from Getrag.
>
>The rep from Mitsu didn't knew anything about Getrag ending with its
production
>but he told me that they developed a new, lighter but stronger 6-speed
tranny on
>specs of Mitsu. They could be for the 2.5l TwinTurbo AWD Legnum.
>
>Later,
>Roger
>
>-----------------------
>Roger Gerl, Switzerland
>93'3000GT TwinTurbo (Animale Rosso)
>
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Date: Wed, 6 Jan 1999 08:47:41 -0800
From: Chris Winkley <cwinkley@plaza.ds.adp.com>
Subject: Team3S: RE: shudder & WOT

- -----Original Message-----
From: wce@bc.sympatico.ca [mailto:wce@bc.sympatico.ca]
Sent: Tuesday, January 05, 1999 4:36 PM
To: Team3S
Subject: Team3S: shudder

<snip>

I still seem to be experiencing the same problem...a near subtle rear
end shudder at WOT....that is it's not imagination and can be felt.

<snip>

Can this  may be  turbo related:  the rear end  responds to the same as
it grabs/spins and gives a shudder as wheel grab or spin occurs?  Anying
like this at all occur on your cars??

It is a steady acceleration until shudder which is a second, not likely
two, in duration, with acceleration occurring through it and after. .
My miles are low and have not been hard miles since I bought it, but who
knows, the first owner may have had his foot into it. If normal, I can
live with it, but if not, it is really gnawing at my butt. Comparisons,
checks,  or ideas appreciated.

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Darcy...

I'm not sure how my VR4 was driven for the first 27K miles of it's life, but
I've been driving it hard for the last 8K miles. WOT is a normal practice
every time I drive Beastie, and redline is a frequent occurrence. I rarely,
if ever, shift below 4500rpm, and rarely get out of third gear. I haven't
noticed a shudder like you're describing. The only thing I've had trouble
with (as I've added mods) is fuel cut, and that's not a shudder, it's a
slam. Worse than the rev limiter kicking in, which I've had happen a number
of times. However, it could be that's because I'm hanging on for dear life,
with the stereo blasting, and there's a shit eating grin plastered on my
face.  :-)

However, next time he's out from under cover, I'll turn down the stereo and
pay attention. Question...is this happening in all gears?

Looking forward...Chris

P.S...as Ian Anderson (Jethro Tull) once quipped, "Too old to rock n' roll,
too young to die". I may be playing Celine Dion on my stereo right now, but
I still have that "need for speed".  :-)

P.P.S...while I'm at it, for those of you in the electronics world, I've
always compared throttle to digital versus analog. A car like ours really
only needs a digital throttle, WOT or idle (on or off). Analog should be
reserved for buses and little old ladies.

"Friends don't let friends ride with me"

1995 Glacier Pearl White VR4
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