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Team3S Digest        Monday, December 28 1998        Volume 01 : Number 058




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Date: Sun, 27 Dec 1998 11:40:08 -0500
From: Michael Booker <mrbook@gate.net>
Subject: Team3S: G-Force ecu on a non-turbo

Has anyone out there with a non-turbo installed a G-force ecu? I was
planning this as my next modification, but with the cost involved, i
want input as to how effective it is. What do they change from the stock
ecu, the fuel maps, timing, or the ignition? What kind of HP gain can be
realized with this mod? Thanks for any info.

Matt
3/Si #311
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Date: Sun, 27 Dec 1998 15:07:43 -0500
From: Marc Jaffe <marc@marcjaffe.com>
Subject: Team3S: ABS light

Hi guys,
I hope you are having a good holiday..
You have not heard form me yet, My name is Marc Jaffe, I am in New York, And I have a 95
VR4 with 62k miles
1)My ABS light has been coming on ..if i restart the car it goes out. I t seems to come on
more when the car has sat for a while. It always goes out when i restart.
A)is one of the sensors failing?
B)how do I tell which?
C)is it a big deal to replace? I see one bolt?
D how much?

next

2)what does the controller box under the the heater vents on the passenger side control?
I have a squeaky fan and when you take off the plastic to get to it there is a box
attached?..Hopefully the squeak is gone..this is just a question of what is it?

3)I have seen some threads on shocks and am questioning if these are a big deal to replace
myself (stock) because of the ECS?

4) my Reciever (infinity) has lost the FM amp but the cassette, cd and AM are fine. It
starts out fine and then fades to almost nothing..the rest are fine..I live and travel on
dirt roads and I am thinking maybe a solder joint is wacked, but that does not compute.
Big deal or cost to repair? I want to keep the setup for now.

I look forward to your responses, and have a good new year
Marc

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Date: Sun, 27 Dec 1998 17:39:59 -0500
From: "Bob Rand" <rtr@vnet.net>
Subject: Re: Team3S: ABS light

Hi Marc,  I can help a little with the FM reception.  Apparently the
Infinity head has a little defect that dodge and mitsu refuse to recall. the
FM curcuit has a defect in the IC section that requires the unit to be sent
in for repair. Dealers are familiar with this problem.

Bob
93 Stealth TT (with intermittant FM reception failure)
- -----Original Message-----
From: Marc Jaffe <marc@marcjaffe.com>
To: stealth-3000gt@list.sirius.com <stealth-3000gt@list.sirius.com>
Date: Sunday, December 27, 1998 3:07 PM
Subject: Team3S: ABS light


>Hi guys,
>I hope you are having a good holiday..
>You have not heard form me yet, My name is Marc Jaffe, I am in New York,
And I have a 95
>VR4 with 62k miles
>1)My ABS light has been coming on ..if i restart the car it goes out. I t
seems to come on
>more when the car has sat for a while. It always goes out when i restart.
>A)is one of the sensors failing?
>B)how do I tell which?
>C)is it a big deal to replace? I see one bolt?
>D how much?
>
>next
>
>2)what does the controller box under the the heater vents on the passenger
side control?
>I have a squeaky fan and when you take off the plastic to get to it there
is a box
>attached?..Hopefully the squeak is gone..this is just a question of what is
it?
>
>3)I have seen some threads on shocks and am questioning if these are a big
deal to replace
>myself (stock) because of the ECS?
>
>4) my Reciever (infinity) has lost the FM amp but the cassette, cd and AM
are fine. It
>starts out fine and then fades to almost nothing..the rest are fine..I live
and travel on
>dirt roads and I am thinking maybe a solder joint is wacked, but that does
not compute.
>Big deal or cost to repair? I want to keep the setup for now.
>
>I look forward to your responses, and have a good new year
>Marc
>
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http://www.bobforrest.com/Team3S.htm
>

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Date: Sun, 27 Dec 1998 17:13:45 -0500
From: Brian <bcdmad@concentric.net>
Subject: Re: Team3S: ABS light

Well First thing to check would be the whireing itself.  They have been
know to come off.  This happens right near the strut.  You can take off the
strut cap, which is located on top of the strut (big black rubber cover).
You can then see the wires.  Check to make sure there making a connection
and also fro corrosion. 90% of the time this is what it is. Even better yet
just go to this page on John's site and it will show you how to do this.
http://user.icx.net/~adams/front_strut_wiring_shield_mod.htm

At 03:07 PM 12/27/98 -0500, you wrote:
>Hi guys,
>I hope you are having a good holiday..
>You have not heard form me yet, My name is Marc Jaffe, I am in New York,
And I have a 95
>VR4 with 62k miles
>1)My ABS light has been coming on ..if i restart the car it goes out. I t
seems to come on
>more when the car has sat for a while. It always goes out when i restart.
>A)is one of the sensors failing?
>B)how do I tell which?
>C)is it a big deal to replace? I see one bolt?
>D how much?
>

93 VR-4
# 0007
Tampa/Orlando FL

"He who laughs last ... thinks slowest"

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Date: Sun, 27 Dec 1998 18:22:16 -0500
From: "Bob Rand" <rtr@vnet.net>
Subject: Re: Team3S: ABS light

Whoa,,  Brian he is referencing the ABS (anti lock break), not the ECS
(Electronic control suppension)

- -----Original Message-----
From: Brian <bcdmad@concentric.net>
To: stealth-3000gt@list.sirius.com <stealth-3000gt@list.sirius.com>
Date: Sunday, December 27, 1998 6:18 PM
Subject: Re: Team3S: ABS light


>Well First thing to check would be the whireing itself.  They have been
>know to come off.  This happens right near the strut.  You can take off the
>strut cap, which is located on top of the strut (big black rubber cover).
>You can then see the wires.  Check to make sure there making a connection
>and also fro corrosion. 90% of the time this is what it is. Even better yet
>just go to this page on John's site and it will show you how to do this.
>http://user.icx.net/~adams/front_strut_wiring_shield_mod.htm
>
>At 03:07 PM 12/27/98 -0500, you wrote:
>>Hi guys,
>>I hope you are having a good holiday..
>>You have not heard form me yet, My name is Marc Jaffe, I am in New York,
>And I have a 95
>>VR4 with 62k miles
>>1)My ABS light has been coming on ..if i restart the car it goes out. I t
>seems to come on
>>more when the car has sat for a while. It always goes out when i restart.
>>A)is one of the sensors failing?
>>B)how do I tell which?
>>C)is it a big deal to replace? I see one bolt?
>>D how much?
>>
>
>93 VR-4
># 0007
>Tampa/Orlando FL
>
>"He who laughs last ... thinks slowest"
>
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> bcdmad@concentric.net
>
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Date: Sun, 27 Dec 1998 17:56:00 -0500
From: Brian <bcdmad@concentric.net>
Subject: Re: Team3S: ABS light

Opps My bad!  Check the break fluid reservoire.  It also could be the
reservoir sendor/sensor.

At 06:22 PM 12/27/98 -0500, you wrote:
>Whoa,,  Brian he is referencing the ABS (anti lock break), not the ECS
>(Electronic control suppension)
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: Brian <bcdmad@concentric.net>
>To: stealth-3000gt@list.sirius.com <stealth-3000gt@list.sirius.com>
>Date: Sunday, December 27, 1998 6:18 PM
>Subject: Re: Team3S: ABS light
>
>
>>Well First thing to check would be the whireing itself.  They have been
>>know to come off.  This happens right near the strut.  You can take off the
>>strut cap, which is located on top of the strut (big black rubber cover).
>>You can then see the wires.  Check to make sure there making a connection
>>and also fro corrosion. 90% of the time this is what it is. Even better yet
>>just go to this page on John's site and it will show you how to do this.
>>http://user.icx.net/~adams/front_strut_wiring_shield_mod.htm
>>
>>At 03:07 PM 12/27/98 -0500, you wrote:
>>>Hi guys,
>>>I hope you are having a good holiday..
>>>You have not heard form me yet, My name is Marc Jaffe, I am in New York,
>>And I have a 95
>>>VR4 with 62k miles
>>>1)My ABS light has been coming on ..if i restart the car it goes out. I t
>>seems to come on
>>>more when the car has sat for a while. It always goes out when i restart.
>>>A)is one of the sensors failing?
>>>B)how do I tell which?
>>>C)is it a big deal to replace? I see one bolt?
>>>D how much?
>>>
>>
>>93 VR-4
>># 0007
>>Tampa/Orlando FL
>>
>>"He who laughs last ... thinks slowest"
>>
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>> bcdmad@concentric.net
>>
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>http://www.bobforrest.com/Team3S.htm
>>
>
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>
93 VR-4
# 0007
Tampa/Orlando FL

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Date: Sun, 27 Dec 1998 16:56:10 -0800
From: Jay Steinberg <jay@wco.com>
Subject: Re: Team3S: ABS light

Exactly... Now, unfortunately this issue of the ECS light blinking is not
dealt with entirely correctly. I get the sense that Marc wants to replace
the struts, though it's not totally clear. First, let me comment on the ECS
blinking light; I've done so before. Simply a break in the connector wiring
at the top of strut is not the sole cause of the problem. If there's a
break in the filamentous wiring within the strut, you will get the blinking
too. It's impossible to fix, short of strut replacement. So, I live with a
blinking light. Does anyone know how to cut out that light? As for Marc's
question on replacing struts, if I understood correctly, I wouldn't think
this is a simple job... Electronics, springs, need to do a 4 wheel
alignment, etc. Either I cut the wire (but my struts are in good shape),
suffer from blinking light blindness, or go for GABs.

At 6:22 PM -0500 12/27/98, you wrote:

> Whoa,,  Brian he is referencing the ABS (anti lock break), not the ECS
> (Electronic control suppension)
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Brian <bcdmad@concentric.net>
> To: stealth-3000gt@list.sirius.com <stealth-3000gt@list.sirius.com>
> Date: Sunday, December 27, 1998 6:18 PM
> Subject: Re: Team3S: ABS light
>
>
> >Well First thing to check would be the whireing itself.  They have been
> >know to come off.  This happens right near the strut.  You can take off the
> >strut cap, which is located on top of the strut (big black rubber cover).
> >You can then see the wires.  Check to make sure there making a connection
> >and also fro corrosion. 90% of the time this is what it is. Even better yet
> >just go to this page on John's site and it will show you how to do this.
> >http://user.icx.net/~adams/front_strut_wiring_shield_mod.htm
> >
> >At 03:07 PM 12/27/98 -0500, you wrote:
> >>Hi guys,
> >>I hope you are having a good holiday..
> >>You have not heard form me yet, My name is Marc Jaffe, I am in New York,
> >And I have a 95
> >>VR4 with 62k miles
> >>1)My ABS light has been coming on ..if i restart the car it goes out. I t
> >seems to come on

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Date: Sun, 27 Dec 1998 17:22:53 -0800
From: wce@bc.sympatico.ca
Subject: Team3S: posts

Hi guys;

Just a subtle reminder....do not repost everything in the post you are
responding to, unless you are responding to everything in that post.
It's too easy to hit the respond button, type your offering, then hit
send, without doing some editing. Cut and delete portions which are not
applicable. Or, insert/imbed your response at the appropriate line, and
delete that which you do not need to have us read again. This is noted
in the rules you chose to agree with when you joined.

Thanks

Darc

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Date: Sun, 27 Dec 1998 21:34:41 -0500
From: "Bob Fontana" <bfontana@securitytechnologies.com>
Subject: RE: Team3S: ABS light

An ABS light staying on for any period of time is very likely a bad sensor.
The shop manual has a pretty decent set of diagnostics to discover what the
problem is.  I hit some debris one night (a tire iron actually) and it
knocked out the sensor on my right rear wheel.  The light stayed on solid
until the sensor was replaced.  Cost for the sensor was ridculous -- at the
time, I believe it was $400.  But then again, that was before I knew
anything about these cars and the dealership was probably soaking me.

- -Bob

> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-stealth-3000gt@list.sirius.com
> [mailto:owner-stealth-3000gt@list.sirius.com]On Behalf Of Jay Steinberg
> Sent: Sunday, December 27, 1998 7:56 PM
> To: stealth-3000gt@list.sirius.com
> Subject: Re: Team3S: ABS light
>
>
> Exactly... Now, unfortunately this issue of the ECS light blinking is not
> dealt with entirely correctly. I get the sense that Marc wants to replace
> the struts, though it's not totally clear. First, let me comment
> on the ECS
> blinking light; I've done so before. Simply a break in the
> connector wiring
> at the top of strut is not the sole cause of the problem. If there's a
> break in the filamentous wiring within the strut, you will get
> the blinking
> too. It's impossible to fix, short of strut replacement. So, I live with a
> blinking light. Does anyone know how to cut out that light? As for Marc's
> question on replacing struts, if I understood correctly, I wouldn't think
> this is a simple job... Electronics, springs, need to do a 4 wheel
> alignment, etc. Either I cut the wire (but my struts are in good shape),
> suffer from blinking light blindness, or go for GABs.
>
> At 6:22 PM -0500 12/27/98, you wrote:
>
> > Whoa,,  Brian he is referencing the ABS (anti lock break), not the ECS
> > (Electronic control suppension)
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Brian <bcdmad@concentric.net>
> > To: stealth-3000gt@list.sirius.com <stealth-3000gt@list.sirius.com>
> > Date: Sunday, December 27, 1998 6:18 PM
> > Subject: Re: Team3S: ABS light
> >
> >
> > >Well First thing to check would be the whireing itself.  They have been
> > >know to come off.  This happens right near the strut.  You can
> take off the
> > >strut cap, which is located on top of the strut (big black
> rubber cover).
> > >You can then see the wires.  Check to make sure there making a
> connection
> > >and also fro corrosion. 90% of the time this is what it is.
> Even better yet
> > >just go to this page on John's site and it will show you how
> to do this.
> > >http://user.icx.net/~adams/front_strut_wiring_shield_mod.htm
> > >
> > >At 03:07 PM 12/27/98 -0500, you wrote:
> > >>Hi guys,
> > >>I hope you are having a good holiday..
> > >>You have not heard form me yet, My name is Marc Jaffe, I am
> in New York,
> > >And I have a 95
> > >>VR4 with 62k miles
> > >>1)My ABS light has been coming on ..if i restart the car it
> goes out. I t
> > >seems to come on
>
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Date: Sun, 27 Dec 1998 18:42:28 PST
From: "Eric Lotter" <elotter@hotmail.com>
Subject: RE: Team3S: ABS light

IF the problem seems more serious (frequent) after the car has sat, it
is more likely a poor charge in the battery.

EricL


>From: "Bob Fontana" <bfontana@securitytechnologies.com>
>To: <stealth-3000gt@list.sirius.com>
>Subject: RE: Team3S: ABS light
>Date: Sun, 27 Dec 1998 21:34:41 -0500
>Reply-To: stealth-3000gt@list.sirius.com
>
>An ABS light staying on for any period of time is very likely a bad
sensor.
>The shop manual has a pretty decent set of diagnostics to discover what
the
>problem is.  I hit some debris one night (a tire iron actually) and it
>knocked out the sensor on my right rear wheel.  The light stayed on
solid
>until the sensor was replaced.  Cost for the sensor was ridculous -- at
the
>time, I believe it was $400.  But then again, that was before I knew
>anything about these cars and the dealership was probably soaking me.
>
>-Bob
>

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Date: Mon, 28 Dec 1998 10:27:37 +0000
From: "R.G." <robby@swissonline.ch>
Subject: Re: Team3S: G-Force ecu on a non-turbo

Matt,

> Has anyone out there with a non-turbo installed a G-force ecu? I was
> planning this as my next modification, but with the cost involved, i
> want input as to how effective it is. What do they change from the stock
> ecu, the fuel maps, timing, or the ignition? What kind of HP gain can be
> realized with this mod? Thanks for any info.

I never heard of anybody who did this nor have I heard of G-Force making one for
the NT's. Even more I doubt that they are making it because there is too less
gain, if any, for the bucks.

There's no need to change the ECU on the NT unless you are changing the cams,
fuel system, throttle body, heads and valves/lifters. Only then a changed timing
and fuel delivery (fuel Maps) would make sense to achieve the best result.
Sorry, any ECU-upgrade for your car is not worth the money.

If you want to do something good to your NT, try to find a path for good fresh
air through the way we have our intercoolers. Any "RAM"-air system are only
called like this and do only give fresh air the way to the filter. They do not
have a proven RAM air effect.

You can also try to install a Te-Zett "Turbo". This is a little electric fan
that runs on a very high RPM and delivers a small amount of air. it works good
on smaller displacements and becomes less efficient on more than 2.5l. A buddy
of mine (from the Netherlands) installed it in his 3.8l Camaro and says the
throttle response is better as well as acceleration, not alot but better. Have a
look at http://sunflower.singnet.com.sg/~racer/index.html

Good luck,
Roger

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Date: Mon, 28 Dec 1998 10:34:26 +0000
From: "R.G." <robby@swissonline.ch>
Subject: Re: Team3S: Re: Plug Gap

> I gapped the plugs at .032 and have had good results. The engine cutout that
> I was getting before at about 15 psi disappeared.
> I also noticed an increase in boost pressure achieved with the same
> settings on my boost controller before the new plugs and wires. I'm not
> quite sure the reason for this, but I'm giving the new plugs and gap the
> credit.

Yes, defintiely the plugs and maybe the wires if your older ones were not in
good condition. The higher boost is related to the fuel be burnt better now.
Also, having some slight hesitation around 15psi, can be caused due to knock and
the timing then slightly retarded. The cause for the knock could be only one
plug that did not fire perfectly and causing the noise the ECU interprets as
knock.

Regapping the plugs (maybe new ones) - the first thing to do when increasing
boost !

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Date: Mon, 28 Dec 1998 17:11:09 +0000
From: "R.G." <robby@swissonline.ch>
Subject: Team3S: 3000GT Specs needed (all gens)

I'm about to finish the development of the 3000GT/Stealth for "Need for Speed
III". Unfortunately, I don't have the gear specs handy (poor man without a
manual) and therefore ask if someone could send me :

- - gear ratio (5 speed and 6 speed)
- - final gear (5 speed and 6 speed)

Thanks in adavance
Roger

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