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To: stealth-3000gt-digest@list.sirius.com
Subject: Team3S Digest V1 #29
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Team3S Digest        Friday, November 20 1998        Volume 01 : Number 029




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Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1998 08:39:24 -0800
From: wce@bc.sympatico.ca
Subject: Team3S: 1.05 Bar

 Barry, Bob, Jack, Todd, Roger, Jim et all

Can I get some consensus from you guys on running 1.05 with a stock
configuration (+ BC, K&N, main cat gone)??? With the recent threads it
seems marginal...add octane boost ...safe or still marginal?? I can live
with 1 bar, but having 1.05 for needy situations would be nice. I know
it is always dangerous to advise, so I'll take all the advise I can
solicit, and make up my own mind..

Thanks in advance

Darc

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Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1998 11:42:46 EST
From: GC3000GT@aol.com
Subject: Team3S: 3000GT and Stealth Windshield Banners now available!

Hey All,

Many of you have inquired about larger versions of the 3000GT and Stealth
vinyl graphics I offer for possible windshield banners.  Well, I finally got
some prices, and here's the scoop on them:

3000GT Windshield Banner: 
Measures roughly 3" x 34 1/2"
Metallic Silver Price:  $35
Any Color Price:  $30

Stealth Windshield Banner:
Measures roughly 3" x 52"
Metallic Silver Price:  $40
Any Color Price:  $35

These are made up in the same weatherproof vinyl in which I have the
3000GT/Stealth ID kits made up in.  Many of you can agree that this vinyl
truely holds up to it's name.  If any of you are interested, please let me
know as soon as possible so I can tally up an order.  The faster all of you
place your order, the faster you'll receive it.  For payment and ordering
info, please email me privately at:  GC3000GT@aol.com

I'm also taking more orders for the regular 3000GT/Stealth ID Logo kits as
seen on http://members.tripod.com/gcouture/logos

Thanks,
Now back to your regularly scheduled flame wars.

Gregg
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Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1998 11:07:53 -0700
From: "Barry E. King" <beking@home.com>
Subject: RE: Team3S: 1.05 Bar

I think you should be able to get away with 1.05 bar on excellent fuel for
short blasts.  You don't really have the opportunity in Canada to run 1.05
bar for 10 minutes at a time (well you DO but...) so with high octane fuel +
octane booster you should be fine.

Make sure you know what your controller reads.  Some read bar, some read
kilogram/cm^2.

1 bar = 14.504 psi
1 kg/cm^2 = 14.223 psi
1 atmosphere = 14.67

These conversions are confused all over the place bu t the above are
factual.  People get especially confused with bar and atmospehere and use
them interchangably - they are different.  Fortunately it only makes a psi
or so difference but that 1 psi may be the difference between detonation and
smooth running.


Regards,

Barry

>  Barry, Bob, Jack, Todd, Roger, Jim et all
>
> Can I get some consensus from you guys on running 1.05 with a stock
> configuration (+ BC, K&N, main cat gone)??? With the recent threads it
> seems marginal...add octane boost ...safe or still marginal?? I can live
> with 1 bar, but having 1.05 for needy situations would be nice. I know
> it is always dangerous to advise, so I'll take all the advise I can
> solicit, and make up my own mind..
>
> Thanks in advance
>
> Darc

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Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1998 16:08:01 EST
From: Aso8@aol.com
Subject: Team3S: Trust 20G headers & turbos

From some of the recent posts about downpipe sizes and room for larger
pipes...
Does anyone know how Trust gets 20G turbos along with the (must be) much
larger plumbing in the car? Do they tube the frame?
Arty 91 VR-4
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Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1998 22:41:19 +0100
From: "R.G." <robby@swissonline.ch>
Subject: Re: Team3S: Trust 20G headers & turbos

> Does anyone know how Trust gets 20G turbos along with the (must be) much
> larger plumbing in the car? Do they tube the frame?

The 368S Turbos from Brain (GT Alley) are comparable to 20G. But the turbine
housing is the same so no problem with fittings on this side. But the compressor
housing is huge and the outlet is not bent like it is on our stock turbos.
Unfortunately we noticed this when we tried to bolt the new front one on :( The
housing intereferes with the front engine mounting bracket and the only way is
to install the new bracket that comes with the turbos. With this it should fit.
I don't see any problem for the rear one.

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Roger Gerl, Switzerland
93'3000GT TwinTurbo (Animale Rosso)

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Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1998 17:03:20 -0500
From: josesini <josesini@engin.umich.edu>
Subject: Team3S: Wheel Prices...

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The following is a list of prices for wheels and tires of a group buy
that the DSM list is trying to put together.  I think these are great
prices.

Contact David Nylander at awdtalon@san.rr.com

Hurry up because the deal is almost done!

Jose

David Nylander wrote:
>
> Good and bad news.  First off, I got the price
> list and so do you.  Bad news, the prices are
> good, but not as good as I expected. Also, the
> SSR integral can not be had at a good price.  He
> failed to mention this to me. Tire rack owns
> those wheels so he can get then any cheaper.
> Sorry to all those guys who wanted the Integral.
>
>  Let me explainn the file I've attached.  Their
> are three prices next to each wheel column.  The
> first is list, the second is if we have 5
> people(I think that would be a normal price
> quote.  These prices are near the original quote
> he gave me.), the third is if we can get over 10
> people.  That price is as good as you will ever
> find.  Its only a 2% markup, which is next to
> nothing.  I told him I felt the prices were a
> little high for the amount of wheels wanted, but
> he won't make that much unless we can get all 40
> sets.  Without the integral people and others
> who haven't returned my emails, we have about 30
> possible.  Basically, I want to know who is
> willing to pay the third column price.  If there
> are enough, maybe the price can be knocked down
> a little more(not much).
> Regarding tires, only Falken are listed.  These
> prices can also be knocked down 5-10 per tire
> depending on who orders what, how many of that
> tire they have in stock(if they have a lot, the
> price will be cheaper), and so on.  I asked
> about all other brands tires and he said he
> would be able to beat any advertised add.  Look
> in a car mag at the tire rack or discount.  I
> don't really know much more about the tire
> situation.
> Shpping, mounting and balancing.
>     Mounting and balancing a tire will cost 40
> for the set.  Maybe a few bucks less.  That is
> his cost.  Can't get much cheaper anywhere.
>     Shipping a set of 17s w/tires will cost
> 70-100.  18s w/tires 90-120.  16s and 15s would
> be a little cheaper than the 17s.  He didn't
> say, I didn't ask.  The store is in Denver, CO.,
> so, it might be a little cheaper as well if you
> live closer.  Not sure.  I know there is one guy
> who lives in CO, he would be the only one to
> have to pay sales tax.  That is a plus.
> If you just want rims(no tires), shipping will
> be anywhere from 10-20 per rim.  All the
> merchandise will be insured of course.
>     I'm pretty sure we would get free lugs and
> maybe caps if we can put in a good sized order.
>     Custom colors (black, orange, red, etc.)
> will cost about 60-80 more for the set.  Time
> may be an issue as well.  Quite a few peope
> asked about silver for the TE37.  Volk has a
> highly polished look and a normal plain silver.
> The polished one will cost the same as a custom
> color 60-80, silver should not cost anything.
>
> Here is the plan.  If the third column of prices
> looks good to you, email me your name, wheel you
> want, and tire(if you want) once again.  If you
> don't want in, please email me so I will know
> not to wait on you.  I'll give it like two
> days.  If we come up with 10, we'll do it for
> sure.  If not, who cares. If there are more than
> 10, I'll figure out the final pricing.
>
> Hopefully I've answered everyones questions. I
> may have left something out, I'm in a hurry to
> get to work.  The prices may still be high, but
> they are by far and away the best prices you can
> get.  Please don't tell some other store about
> these prices, this is an exclusive deal
> initiated by Club DSM and shared with other
> groups.  Thanks all.
>
> Dave Nylander
>
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Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1998 14:15:42 -0800
From: "GT ALLEY" <thegtalley@email.msn.com>
Subject: Re: Team3S: Trust 20G headers & turbos

One little side note to this. We use the stock exhaust housing, but not the
stock turbine section. Our turbine is a proprietary set-up and is of the
best config. possible in the stock exh. housing. Compressor section is MUCH
larger than stock and the comp. wheel is as well. Roger is correct in the
wheel size being comparable to a 20G, but it is a much more effecient wheel
then the 20G.

The new GT-368SX turbo does require the changing of the front mounting
bracket (included), in the package. All else is plug and play.

Thanks,
Brian@
The GT ALLEY
3/S Performance Central
- -----Original Message-----
From: R.G. <robby@swissonline.ch>
To: stealth-3000gt@list.sirius.com <stealth-3000gt@list.sirius.com>
Date: Thursday, November 19, 1998 1:47 PM
Subject: Re: Team3S: Trust 20G headers & turbos


>> Does anyone know how Trust gets 20G turbos along with the (must be) much
>> larger plumbing in the car? Do they tube the frame?
>
>The 368S Turbos from Brain (GT Alley) are comparable to 20G. But the
turbine
>housing is the same so no problem with fittings on this side. But the
compressor
>housing is huge and the outlet is not bent like it is on our stock turbos.
>Unfortunately we noticed this when we tried to bolt the new front one on
( The
>housing intereferes with the front engine mounting bracket and the only way
is
>to install the new bracket that comes with the turbos. With this it should
fit.
>I don't see any problem for the rear one.
>
>-----------------------
>Roger Gerl, Switzerland
>93'3000GT TwinTurbo (Animale Rosso)
>
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Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1998 17:22:01 -0500
From: "Bob Fontana" <bfontana@securitytechnologies.com>
Subject: RE: Team3S: 1.05 Bar

Hi,

I used 93 octane fuel on my last 40 runs at DeSoto Raceway with no ill
effects.  I was running 23-24 PSI, sometimes more, sometimes less.  That's
something like
1.6 bar (not 1.06).  On short, 1/4-mile bursts, the fuel situation should be
fine at almost any amount of boost you can produce.  When asked, "Hey Bob, I
have stock turbos and a Profec...How much boost can I run?", I've always
said that in the 1/4 mile, you can run as much as you can.  I still believe
that, despite several recent list member meltdowns.  Most of those happened
after extended bursts of more than 11 or 12 seconds.

- -Bob

> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-stealth-3000gt@list.sirius.com
> [mailto:owner-stealth-3000gt@list.sirius.com]On Behalf Of Barry E. King
> Sent: Thursday, November 19, 1998 1:08 PM
> To: stealth-3000gt@list.sirius.com
> Subject: RE: Team3S: 1.05 Bar
>
>
> I think you should be able to get away with 1.05 bar on excellent fuel for
> short blasts.  You don't really have the opportunity in Canada to run 1.05
> bar for 10 minutes at a time (well you DO but...) so with high
> octane fuel +
> octane booster you should be fine.
>
> Make sure you know what your controller reads.  Some read bar, some read
> kilogram/cm^2.
>
> 1 bar = 14.504 psi
> 1 kg/cm^2 = 14.223 psi
> 1 atmosphere = 14.67
>
> These conversions are confused all over the place bu t the above are
> factual.  People get especially confused with bar and atmospehere and use
> them interchangably - they are different.  Fortunately it only makes a psi
> or so difference but that 1 psi may be the difference between
> detonation and
> smooth running.
>
>
> Regards,
>
> Barry
>
> >  Barry, Bob, Jack, Todd, Roger, Jim et all
> >
> > Can I get some consensus from you guys on running 1.05 with a stock
> > configuration (+ BC, K&N, main cat gone)??? With the recent threads it
> > seems marginal...add octane boost ...safe or still marginal?? I can live
> > with 1 bar, but having 1.05 for needy situations would be nice. I know
> > it is always dangerous to advise, so I'll take all the advise I can
> > solicit, and make up my own mind..
> >
> > Thanks in advance
> >
> > Darc
>
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Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1998 19:25:56 EST
From: Aso8@aol.com
Subject: Re: Team3S: Wheel Prices...

Its probably me but can someone who downloaded this file please send it to me
opened. I can't open it when I download it???
Thanks
Arty

In a message dated 11/19/98 10:10:06 PM !!!First Boot!!!,
josesini@engin.umich.edu writes:

<<  following is a list of prices for wheels and tires of a group buy
 that the DSM list is trying to put together.  I think these are great
 prices.
 
 Contact David Nylander at awdtalon@san.rr.com
  >>
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Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1998 17:55:00 -0700
From: "Palamara, Peter" <pala@gwl.com>
Subject: RE: Team3S: Trust 20G headers & turbos

The trust kit only comes with the td-05 16g made by them for their
header set-up. You have to go this route because everything goes
together as a whole the turbos, type-s wastegates, and headers. That's
what I learned when we started looking into the package. According to
greddy and other sources obtained you can use the hks hard pipe
intercoooling plumbing but some small modifications have to be made and
the exhaust housings have to be specially made along with the water and
oil lines. That's why I'm selling a almost complete turbo system off of
my car around January to February. Hope this answers the question.

Pete Palamara
92 3000vr-4(GTO)
500 hp of Fun
(303)689-4733

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Aso8@aol.com [SMTP:Aso8@aol.com]
> Sent: Thursday, November 19, 1998 2:08 PM
> To: stealth-3000gt@list.sirius.com
> Cc: Aso8@aol.com
> Subject: Team3S: Trust 20G headers & turbos
>
> From some of the recent posts about downpipe sizes and room for larger
> pipes...
> Does anyone know how Trust gets 20G turbos along with the (must be)
> much
> larger plumbing in the car? Do they tube the frame?
> Arty 91 VR-4
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Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1998 23:13:21 -0600
From: xwing <xwing@execpc.com>
Subject: Re: Team3S: 1.05 Bar

wce@bc.sympatico.ca wrote:
> consensus on running 1.05 with stock
> configuration + BC, K&N, main cat gone)?
> add octane boost safe or still marginal? I can live
> with 1 bar, but having 1.05 for needy situations would be nice.

1.05 bar (15.3psi or so) is no problem on 93 octane.  The knock sensor
can adjust enough for that.  I would not go over 16psi for extended
periods; 20 psi for short term; but go at your own risk past 18 on 93
octane, those cast pistons are unforgiving, once they start a crack they
WILL eventually FINSISH that crack...
Jack T.

ps has anyone with AVCR or other injection pulse monitor and stock
injectors/no VPC seen duty cycle with boost as you adjust 14,15,16 etc
psi?  When do they max out?
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Date: Fri, 20 Nov 1998 00:33:30 -0500
From: "Ron-a-roid" <rtetetet@email.msn.com>
Subject: Re: Team3S: Wheel Prices...

It's in Excel Arty. Do you have a spread sheet?

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From: Aso8@aol.com <Aso8@aol.com>
To: stealth-3000gt@list.sirius.com <stealth-3000gt@list.sirius.com>
Cc: Aso8@aol.com <Aso8@aol.com>
Date: Thursday, November 19, 1998 7:30 PM
Subject: Re: Team3S: Wheel Prices...


>Its probably me but can someone who downloaded this file please send it to
me
>opened. I can't open it when I download it???
>Thanks
>Arty
>
>In a message dated 11/19/98 10:10:06 PM !!!First Boot!!!,
>josesini@engin.umich.edu writes:
>
><<  following is a list of prices for wheels and tires of a group buy
> that the DSM list is trying to put together.  I think these are great
> prices.
>
> Contact David Nylander at awdtalon@san.rr.com
>  >>
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Date: Fri, 20 Nov 1998 01:50:42 -0500
From: "Robert T. Rand" <rtr@vnet.net>
Subject: Re: Team3S: Wheel Prices...

I have excel and it would not read the file either.

Bob
- -----Original Message-----
From: Ron-a-roid <rtetetet@email.msn.com>
To: stealth-3000gt@list.sirius.com <stealth-3000gt@list.sirius.com>
Date: Friday, November 20, 1998 12:31 AM
Subject: Re: Team3S: Wheel Prices...


>It's in Excel Arty. Do you have a spread sheet?
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: Aso8@aol.com <Aso8@aol.com>
>To: stealth-3000gt@list.sirius.com <stealth-3000gt@list.sirius.com>
>Cc: Aso8@aol.com <Aso8@aol.com>
>Date: Thursday, November 19, 1998 7:30 PM
>Subject: Re: Team3S: Wheel Prices...
>
>
>>Its probably me but can someone who downloaded this file please send it to
>me
>>opened. I can't open it when I download it???
>>Thanks
>>Arty
>>
>>In a message dated 11/19/98 10:10:06 PM !!!First Boot!!!,
>>josesini@engin.umich.edu writes:
>>
>><<  following is a list of prices for wheels and tires of a group buy
>> that the DSM list is trying to put together.  I think these are great
>> prices.
>>
>> Contact David Nylander at awdtalon@san.rr.com
>>  >>
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Date: Fri, 20 Nov 1998 01:53:52 EST
From: LotoBoost@aol.com
Subject: Re: Team3S: 1.05 Bar

In a message dated 11/20/98 12:16:52 AM Eastern Standard Time,
xwing@execpc.com writes:

<< ps has anyone with AVCR or other injection pulse monitor and stock
 injectors/no VPC seen duty cycle with boost as you adjust 14,15,16 etc
 psi?  When do they max out? >>

Close to 100%.

Mike Mahaffey - '94 Stealth tt Best et: 11.6  Best mph: 120.7
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Date: Fri, 20 Nov 1998 09:18:09 EST
From: Aso8@aol.com
Subject: Re: Team3S: Wheel Prices...

I tried Excel and everythink else I could think of but I could not open this
file?
I figured its just my poor computer skills. I was trying to see what the
prices were for both the Volk & Blitz rims in 16 or 17 inch sizes? If anyone
can open it and send me the readout I'd appreciate it.
Thanks
Arty 91 Vr-4

In a message dated 11/19/98 10:50:29 PM Pacific Standard Time, rtr@vnet.net
writes:

<< ubj: Re: Team3S: Wheel Prices...
 Date: 11/19/98 10:50:29 PM Pacific Standard Time
 From: rtr@vnet.net (Robert T. Rand)
 Sender: owner-stealth-3000gt@list.sirius.com
 Reply-to: stealth-3000gt@list.sirius.com
 To: stealth-3000gt@list.sirius.com
 
 I have excel and it would not read the file either.
 
 Bob
 -----Original Message-----
 From: Ron-a-roid <rtetetet@email.msn.com>
 To: stealth-3000gt@list.sirius.com <stealth-3000gt@list.sirius.com>
 Date: Friday, November 20, 1998 12:31 AM
 Subject: Re: Team3S: Wheel Prices...
 
 
 >It's in Excel Arty. Do you have a spread sheet?
 >
 >-----Original Message-----
 >From: Aso8@aol.com <Aso8@aol.com>
 >To: stealth-3000gt@list.sirius.com <stealth-3000gt@list.sirius.com>
 >Cc: Aso8@aol.com <Aso8@aol.com>
 >Date: Thursday, November 19, 1998 7:30 PM
 >Subject: Re: Team3S: Wheel Prices...
 >
 >
 >>Its probably me but can someone who downloaded this file please send it to
 >me
 >>opened. I can't open it when I download it???
 >>Thanks
 >>Arty
 >> >>
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Date: Fri, 20 Nov 1998 08:58:56 -0600
From: "Todd D Shelton" <tds@brightok.net>
Subject: Re: Team3S: Wheel Prices...

Arty - here's what it looks like (sort of)  in excel it's
set up in a table of course.  If you have excel I could
try sending the file directly to you.

- - tds



205-45ZR-16
             110

             205-45ZR-16
             107





             18X10
             700
             490
             455

            205-50VR-16
             99

             205-50VR-16
             105

             VOLK III







            205-55VR-16
             103

             205-55ZR-16
             112

             17X7
             710
             423
             ?
             TROPHY




            225-50VR-16
             107

             215-40ZR-16
             119

             17X8
             730
             474
             438
             17X8
             665
             465
             432

            225-50HR-16
             98

             225-45ZR-16
             127

             17X9
             750
             487
             450
             17X9
             685
             476
             445

            225-55VR-16
             109

             225-50ZR-16
             107

             17X10
             765
             497
             459
             17X10
             700
             490
             455

            235-55VR-16
             110

             225-55ZR-16
             119

             18X7.5
             790
             513
             474
             18X8
             750
             525
             487

            P245-50HR-16
             99

             235-55ZR-16
             117

             18X8
             800
             520
             480
             18X9
             765
             535
             497

            P245-50VR-16
             109

             235-55ZR-16
             117

             18X9
             820
             533
             492
             18X10
             785
             549
             510

            P245-50ZR-16
             113

             245-45ZR-16
             132

             18X10
             840
             546
             504





            P255-50ZR-16
             118

             205-40ZR-17
             125





             TE37




            215-40ZR-17
             127

             205-50ZR-17
             108

             VOLK IIII
             -35%

             15X6
             365
             255
             237

            215-45ZR-17
             128

             215-40ZR-17
             130

             17X7
             655
             425

             15X6.5
             375
             262
             244

            235-45ZR-17
             130

             215-45ZR-17
             133

             17X8
             675
             438

             15X7
             385
             269
             250

            245-45ZR-17
             132

             225-45ZR-17
             135

             17X9
             695
             451

             15X7.5
             395
             276
             257

            255-45ZR-17
             140

             235-40ZR-17
             137

             17X10
             750
             487

             16X7
             450
             315
             293

            255-40ZR-17
             138

             235-45ZR-17
             136

             18X7.5
             755
             490

             16X8
             465
             325
             302

            275-40ZR-17
             155

             245-40ZR-17
             139

             18X8
             765
             497

             17X7.5
             565
             395
             367




             245-45ZR-17
             138

             18X9
             775
             503

             17X8.5
             585
             409
             380




             255-40ZR-17
             145

             18X10
             785
             510

             17X9
             595
             416
             387




             265-40-ZR-17
             150





             17X9.5
             600
             420
             390




             225-40ZR-18
             175

             SEBRING


             18X7.5
             620
             434
             403




             235-40ZR-18
             185

             ITC
             LIST


             18X8.5
             640
             448
             416




             255-35ZR-18
             205

             17X7
             390
             253
             234
             18X9
             650
             455
             423




             265-35ZR-18
             220

             18X7.5
             450
             292
             270
             18X9.5
             655
             458
             426







             18X8.5
             470
             305
             282











             18X9.5
             490
             318







    -----Original Message-----
    From: Aso8@aol.com <Aso8@aol.com>
    To: stealth-3000gt@list.sirius.com <stealth-3000gt@list.sirius.com>
    Cc: Aso8@aol.com <Aso8@aol.com>
    Date: Friday, November 20, 1998 8:20 AM
    Subject: Re: Team3S: Wheel Prices...


    I tried Excel and everythink else I could think of but I could not open
this
    file?
    I figured its just my poor computer skills. I was trying to see what the
    prices were for both the Volk & Blitz rims in 16 or 17 inch sizes? If
anyone
    can open it and send me the readout I'd appreciate it.
    Thanks
    Arty 91 Vr-4

    In a message dated 11/19/98 10:50:29 PM Pacific Standard Time,
rtr@vnet.net
    writes:

    << ubj: Re: Team3S: Wheel Prices...
    Date: 11/19/98 10:50:29 PM Pacific Standard Time
    From: rtr@vnet.net (Robert T. Rand)
    Sender: owner-stealth-3000gt@list.sirius.com
    Reply-to: stealth-3000gt@list.sirius.com
    To: stealth-3000gt@list.sirius.com

    I have excel and it would not read the file either.



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Date: Fri, 20 Nov 1998 09:00:55 -0600
From: "Todd D Shelton" <tds@brightok.net>
Subject: Re: Team3S: Wheel Prices...

            I'm not sure I got it all with that last message - here it is
again:

            - tds















            Falken





             VOLK
             LIST



             LIST
             -30%


            Ziex ZE-502


             GRB


             CHALLENGE - WINNING
             AV3




            195-50HR-15
             70

             195-50ZR-15
             87

             17X7
             557
             390
             362
             17X7
             580
             406
             377

            195-50VR-15
             80

             195-55ZR-15
             90

             17X8
             610
             427
             396
             17X8
             600
             420
             390

            205-50HR-15
             82

             205-50ZR-15
             98

             17X9
             630
             441
             410
             17X9
             610
             427
             397

            205-50VR-15
             89

             205-55ZR-15
             102

             17X10
             650
             455
             423
             17X10
             630
             441
             410

            205-55VR-15
             95

             225-50ZR-15
             105

             18X8
             680
             476
             442
             18X7.5
             655
             458
             426

            225-50VR-15
             102

             195-50HR-16
             89

             18X9
             690
             483
             449
             18X8
             665
             465
             432

            205-40HR-16
             90

             195-50VR-16
             96

             18X10
             710
             497
             462
             18X9
             685
             476
             445

            205-45ZR-16
             110

             205-45ZR-16
             107





             18X10
             700
             490
             455

            205-50VR-16
             99

             205-50VR-16
             105

             VOLK III







            205-55VR-16
             103

             205-55ZR-16
             112

             17X7
             710
             423
             ?
             TROPHY




            225-50VR-16
             107

             215-40ZR-16
             119

             17X8
             730
             474
             438
             17X8
             665
             465
             432

            225-50HR-16
             98

             225-45ZR-16
             127

             17X9
             750
             487
             450
             17X9
             685
             476
             445

            225-55VR-16
             109

             225-50ZR-16
             107

             17X10
             765
             497
             459
             17X10
             700
             490
             455

            235-55VR-16
             110

             225-55ZR-16
             119

             18X7.5
             790
             513
             474
             18X8
             750
             525
             487

            P245-50HR-16
             99

             235-55ZR-16
             117

             18X8
             800
             520
             480
             18X9
             765
             535
             497

            P245-50VR-16
             109

             235-55ZR-16
             117

             18X9
             820
             533
             492
             18X10
             785
             549
             510

            P245-50ZR-16
             113

             245-45ZR-16
             132

             18X10
             840
             546
             504





            P255-50ZR-16
             118

             205-40ZR-17
             125





             TE37




            215-40ZR-17
             127

             205-50ZR-17
             108

             VOLK IIII
             -35%

             15X6
             365
             255
             237

            215-45ZR-17
             128

             215-40ZR-17
             130

             17X7
             655
             425

             15X6.5
             375
             262
             244

            235-45ZR-17
             130

             215-45ZR-17
             133

             17X8
             675
             438

             15X7
             385
             269
             250

            245-45ZR-17
             132

             225-45ZR-17
             135

             17X9
             695
             451

             15X7.5
             395
             276
             257

            255-45ZR-17
             140

             235-40ZR-17
             137

             17X10
             750
             487

             16X7
             450
             315
             293

            255-40ZR-17
             138

             235-45ZR-17
             136

             18X7.5
             755
             490

             16X8
             465
             325
             302

            275-40ZR-17
             155

             245-40ZR-17
             139

             18X8
             765
             497

             17X7.5
             565
             395
             367




             245-45ZR-17
             138

             18X9
             775
             503

             17X8.5
             585
             409
             380




             255-40ZR-17
             145

             18X10
             785
             510

             17X9
             595
             416
             387




             265-40-ZR-17
             150





             17X9.5
             600
             420
             390




             225-40ZR-18
             175

             SEBRING


             18X7.5
             620
             434
             403




             235-40ZR-18
             185

             ITC
             LIST


             18X8.5
             640
             448
             416




             255-35ZR-18
             205

             17X7
             390
             253
             234
             18X9
             650
             455
             423




             265-35ZR-18
             220

             18X7.5
             450
             292
             270
             18X9.5
             655
             458
             426







             18X8.5
             470
             305
             282











             18X9.5
             490
             318









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Date: Fri, 20 Nov 1998 09:16:53 -0600
From: "Todd D Shelton" <tds@brightok.net>
Subject: Team3S: Wheels - converted for viewing

Ok - since posting to the list totally
destroyed the format I have converted the
excel file to an html - it looks like it came out
fine.  Here it is :

http://www.brightok.net/~tds/wheels.htm


- - tds

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Date: Fri, 20 Nov 1998 10:40:30 -0500
From: "Bob Fontana" <bfontana@securitytechnologies.com>
Subject: RE: Team3S: Wheels - converted for viewing

Todd! That WWW presentation is even more understandable than the original
XLS!  Thanks.

- -Bob

> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-stealth-3000gt@list.sirius.com
> [mailto:owner-stealth-3000gt@list.sirius.com]On Behalf Of Todd D Shelton
> Sent: Friday, November 20, 1998 10:17 AM
> To: stealth-3000gt@list.sirius.com
> Subject: Team3S: Wheels - converted for viewing
>
>
> Ok - since posting to the list totally
> destroyed the format I have converted the
> excel file to an html - it looks like it came out
> fine.  Here it is :
>
> http://www.brightok.net/~tds/wheels.htm
>
>
> - tds
>
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Date: Fri, 20 Nov 1998 10:46:21 EST
From: Aso8@aol.com
Subject: Re: Team3S: Wheels - converted for viewing

Todd, thanks. Much appreciated.
Arty

In a message dated 11/20/98 7:13:43 AM Pacific Standard Time, tds@brightok.net
writes:

<< Subj: Team3S: Wheels - converted for viewing
 Date: 11/20/98 7:13:43 AM Pacific Standard Time
 From: tds@brightok.net (Todd D Shelton)
 Sender: owner-stealth-3000gt@list.sirius.com
 Reply-to: stealth-3000gt@list.sirius.com
 To: stealth-3000gt@list.sirius.com
 
 Ok - since posting to the list totally
 destroyed the format I have converted the
 excel file to an html - it looks like it came out
 fine.  Here it is :
 
 http://www.brightok.net/~tds/wheels.htm
 
  >>
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Date: Fri, 20 Nov 1998 16:52:09 +0100
From: Jim Matthews <matthews@wiesbaden.netsurf.de>
Subject: Re: Team3S: 1.05 Bar

xwing wrote:
>
> ps has anyone with AVCR or other injection pulse monitor and stock
> injectors/no VPC seen duty cycle with boost as you adjust 14,15,16 etc
> psi?  When do they max out?

I see my SAVC-R display start blinking right around 6000-6500
RPMs, which is the same time that boost pressure begins to fall
from 1.0 bar (or is that kg/cm^2 on the AVC-R, Barry?).  Stock
injectors and 9B turbos.  Why do you ask?  This doesn't reflect
your setup... are you thinking about giving me all of your
upgrades and reverting your car to stock?  :-)

-Jim
- --
Matthews - Wiesbaden, Germany
matthews@wiesbaden.netsurf.de (64 Kbps ISDN)
http://rover.wiesbaden.netsurf.de/~matthews

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Date: Fri, 20 Nov 1998 09:19:19 -0800
From: wce@bc.sympatico.ca
Subject: Re: Team3S: 1.05 Bar

Barry E. King wrote:

                                 <snip>

Make sure you know what your controller reads.  Some read bar, some read

> kilogram/cm^2.
>
> 1 bar = 14.504 psi
> 1 kg/cm^2 = 14.223 psi
> 1 atmosphere = 14.67

So, given this and Jim's recent comment.....on the SAVC-R, when I dial in 1.00...it is
actually less than 1 bar because it reads in kg/cm^2...hence a relatively
safe/conservative setting.  And, I would assume then, that what I have referred to as
1.05 bar, is actually not that either, and again a safer setting with the SAVC-R.  I'll
ride with these settings for awhile..better safe than not, and I am glad I purchased a
BC... rather than spending a couple of bucks on a bleeder valve to modify an infinitly
much more expensive piece of technology.


Thanks  Barry...your posts are clear and to the point.

Darcy

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