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Team3S Digest Tuesday,
October 20 1998 Volume 01 : Number
003
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Date:
Fri, 16 Oct 1998 12:07:04 -0700
From: Chris Winkley <
cwinkley@plaza.ds.adp.com>
Subject:
Team3S: RE: boost lag
Darc...
I believe Roger said he was going to
be offline for a week or so.
I like the thread. Makes me wonder, has
anyone ever compared the technical specifications of the three (or
four)
most popular boost controllers? Not features, technical specs (response time,
cycle time, etc.). These
are little electronic boxes that control (or
modify) a number of other functions (mostly vacuum, I believe).
There's
bound to be differences. Does Roger & Jim have the same units? The question
is...did I end up with
the best? :-)
Looking
forward...Chris
"Friends don't let friends ride with
me"
1995 Glacier Pearl White VR4
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From:
wce@bc.sympatico.ca [
SMTP:wce@bc.sympatico.ca]
Sent:
Friday, October 16, 1998 11:09 AM
To:
stealth-3000gt@list.sirius.comSubject:
Re: Team3S: Re: lag
Jim;
My guess, and it's only a guess, are the
BC's involved. Yours may/must have a slightly
quicker response in your
setup which has a more restrictive exhaust, comparitively speaking,
and
Roger's (which holds redline boost) may be slightly slower given his free
flowing exhaust
mods. Back pressure differences??? Roger, are you
following this thread? Your analytical
opinion requested
here.
Darc
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Date:
Sat, 17 Oct 1998 14:11:32 +1000
From: andrew clark <
chemist1@ozemail.com.au>
Subject:
Re: Team3S: New member(s); websites...
Bob Forrest wrote:
>
> Hey, Andrew, welcome... Looks like we're getting a pretty good
array
> from around the world, but you're the first from Australia.
Are there
> many Stealth/3000s in Melbourne? I forgot-- do you guys
drive on the
> wrong side of the road? :-)
>
There
are no Stealths in Australia only 3000's.There is only 25 of them
although
now people are importing them privately from Japan so the
number may be
higher. Mitsubishi was importing 3000's from Japan only in
the VR4 spec but
due to the price tag about US$85K new, they didn't
manage to sell many. My
car is an original Mitsubishi delivered car.
BTW we drive on the left hand
side of the road, like in Japan.
Cheers
Andrew
Australia
94
VR4
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Date:
Fri, 16 Oct 1998 21:52:27 -0700
From:
wce@bc.sympatico.caSubject: Re:
Team3S: RE: boost lag
Chris Winkley wrote:
>
Darc...
>
>
> I like the thread. Makes me wonder, has anyone
ever compared the technical specifications of the three (or
> four) most
popular boost controllers?
Roger sent me a comparison of Blitz and Apexi
in a point score format, when I was vascillating between choosing
one or the
other. Maybe when he returns you/we could ask him to publish it to the TEAM...I
would, but he
authored it, and it seems a shame that he went to so much
trouble for it to be lost on just my enquirey. He is
running Blitz BTW and
Jim is running a Super Apexi I believe (Apexi of some form for sure). When I
enquired with
Chen at Nexus, he indicated that Apexi had a quicker response
with some cars (I noted Jim's without mentioning
names), but that overall, he
liked and promoted Blitz more, although would and did sell both. BTW Roger's
point
scoring of the two BC's I mentioned was nearly a dead heat with Blitz
pulling a couple more subjective points
from him. I believe it was
something like 77 to 74 points, and he admitted he might score it different were
he
doing it again.
> Not features, technical specs (response time,
cycle time, etc.). These
> are little electronic boxes that control (or
modify) a number of other functions (mostly vacuum, I believe).
> There's
bound to be differences. Does Roger & Jim have the same units? The question
is...did I end up with
> the best? :-)
You end up with the
best if you really like what you have, and if you manage to install and combine
everything
perfectly. Nothing gets better than that. The grass is always
greener until you learn satisfaction.
Darc
P.S. Yo,
Andrew...my niece recently married an Aussie...hell of nice guy..they live there
(Oz) but are showing
up here for Christmas this year. It ought to be a
radical change from turkey on the beach!!! Get pissed and fall
in a
snowbanks.
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Date:
Sat, 17 Oct 1998 12:09:52 -0700
From: "Bob Forrest" <
bf@bobforrest.com>
Subject: Team3S:
Anyone having list problems? Please reply!
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Mikael seems to be having a problem posting (and I haven't seen
anything
from Rich in days). If anyone else is having difficulty,
please respond
to one of the messages already up on the list, or just drop a
reply to
this email with a response.
I'm attaching the 3Si logo image
just to see if there is a problem with
attachments, as
well...
TIA,
Forrest
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From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Mikael_=C5kesson?=
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Subject: RE:
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Hi=20
I'm testing to reply to this and see if
that works.
I receive all mails but everything I post get lost in
cyberspace..
BTW tomorow I shall have a mini mini gathering with Oscar
from the =
Starnet list. Two people and one car !!! He thought it was an
overkill =
to take his car to sweden just to be here 3 days.
:)=20
/Mikael
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Sent:
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To: Team3S
Subject: Team3S: Anyone
having list problems? Please reply!
Mikael seems to be having a problem
posting (and I haven't seen anything
from Rich in days). If anyone else
is having difficulty, please respond
to one of the messages already up on the
list, or just drop a reply to
this email with a response.
I'm
attaching the 3Si logo image just to see if there is a problem
with
attachments, as well...
TIA,
Forrest
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Date:
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From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Mikael_=C5kesson?=
<
vr4@bahnhof.se>
Subject: Team3S:
FW: Hesitation/Knocks (The lost mail)
Hi
This mail have been lost
in cyberspace for a few days,
This is the third time I send this mail to
the list, let's hope it work this time.
I know that this thread
died a long time ago but this maybe interesting anyway.
-
-----Original Message-----
From: Mikael Åkesson [
SMTP:vr4@bahnhof.se]
Sent: Wednesday,
October 14, 1998 8:45 AM
To:
stealth-3000gt@list.sirius.comSubject:
RE: Hesitation/Knocks
Interesting post Roger.
The car I had before
my VR-4 was a Celica GT-4 with AWD and turbo. I had
alot of mods done to this
car and my biggest problem was that the ignition
was retarded very much when
there was a knock.
The cure for this was to add water !! Yes that's
right. I bought a little
12vpump and connected that to a bottle of water and
got a small nossle
(right word?) and mounted that in the intake. I connected
the pump to a
adjustable presure contact (solenoid). I tuned the system to
start spraying
water at 0.9 bar. This allowed me to go from 1.05 to 1.3 bar
without any
knock at all. (And that's a BIG gain in power)
The water
makes the combustion chamber much cooler and that prevents the
spontanious
explosion in the chamber. (the gases gets so hot that they self
explode
during the compression cycle and that makes the knocking sound)
Remember that
this is extremely dangerous for the engine, for the piston
it's like hitting
a wall when they are supposed to go up.
Ofcourse this is a
"ugly" way to cure a problem that is caused by bad
construction in
the first place.
For more info
www.aquamist.co.uk/Hope this
help
/Mikael /soon with water injection??
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Date:
Sat, 17 Oct 1998 12:59:34 -0700
From: "Bob Forrest" <
bf@bobforrest.com>
Subject: Re:
Team3S: Anyone having list problems? Please reply!
- -----Original
Message-----From: Mikael Åkesson <
vr4@bahnhof.se>
>>>I'm testing
to reply to this and see if that works.
I receive all mails but everything I
post get lost in cyberspace..
BTW tomorow I shall have a mini mini gathering
with Oscar from the
Starnet list. Two people and one car !!! He thought it
was an overkill
to take his car to sweden just to be here 3 days. :)
<<<
The message came through just fine! Probably just
an internet burp...
Have a wonderful gathering with
Oscar...
Forrest
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Date:
Sat, 17 Oct 1998 14:51:09 -0700
From:
wce@bc.sympatico.caSubject: Re:
Team3S: Anyone having list problems? Please reply!
Hi Bob;
There
is no problem receiving or with the attached logo at this
location.
Darc
Bob Forrest wrote:
> Mikael seems to
be having a problem posting (and I haven't seen anything
> from Rich in
days). If anyone else is having difficulty, please respond
> to one
of the messages already up on the list, or just drop a reply to
> this
email with a response.
>
> I'm attaching the 3Si logo image just to
see if there is a problem with
> attachments, as well...
>
>
TIA,
>
> Forrest
>
>
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>
>
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>
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>
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Date:
Sat, 17 Oct 1998 17:36:26 -0700
From: Rich <
rleroy@pacifier.com>
Subject:
Team3S: NEW 95 RT/TT For Sale
All:
I stopped in at Ranier Dodge in
Olympia, Washington yesterday. They
have a NEW (never titled) 95 RT/TT
for sale. It is red, 18" chromies,
Yoko tires, ALL options.
4550 miles on the odo. If someone is looking
for a car that has a full
warranty (and can be bought with the extended
as well, as the buyer would be
the 1st owner), here's one for ya.
This car was up on one of those racks
out at the front of the dealer.
It caught my eye, which is why I
stopped. The salesman told me that
they are looking at $30k for the
car, so that tells me that they should
be willing to deal.
If someone
is interested in it, call the dealer direct (ask directory
assistance for the
number) to get any further specifics on the car. I
could be persuaded
to go back up there and take it for a spin for a
SERIOUS buyer .... cash
donations accepted. :-)
Sorry I haven't had time to check mail the
last couple of days - been
awfully busy. Hope to answer all who have
mailed me tomorrow - if I
survive the day ;-).
Rich
Emerald
Green 94 R/T
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Date:
Sun, 18 Oct 1998 01:27:27 -0400
From: "Ron-a-roid" <
rtetetet@email.msn.com>
Subject:
Team3S: Hello team 3s
Got an invite to join your list and wanted to say
hello. I'll be just
hanging out for a while to catch the flavor of things
because I'm coming in
from starnet where things are a little out of
hand and I want this to work.
Hope everyone is well and
happy.
Ron
93 SL Dark Grey Metallic
Full lock brakes (for Now:-(
)
flaky windows
K&n FIPK
Valentine One
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Message-----
From: Rich <
rleroy@pacifier.com>
To:
stealth-3000gt@list.sirius.com
<
stealth-3000gt@list.sirius.com>
Date:
Saturday, October 17, 1998 8:20 PM
Subject: Team3S: NEW 95 RT/TT For
Sale
>All:
>
>I stopped in at Ranier Dodge in Olympia,
Washington yesterday. They
>have a NEW (never titled) 95 RT/TT for
sale. It is red, 18" chromies,
>Yoko tires, ALL options.
4550 miles on the odo. If someone is looking
>for a car that has a
full warranty (and can be bought with the extended
>as well, as the buyer
would be the 1st owner), here's one for ya.
>
>This car was up on
one of those racks out at the front of the dealer.
>It caught my eye,
which is why I stopped. The salesman told me that
>they are looking
at $30k for the car, so that tells me that they should
>be willing to
deal.
>
>If someone is interested in it, call the dealer direct (ask
directory
>assistance for the number) to get any further specifics on the
car. I
>could be persuaded to go back up there and take it for a
spin for a
>SERIOUS buyer .... cash donations accepted.
:-)
>
>Sorry I haven't had time to check mail the last couple of
days - been
>awfully busy. Hope to answer all who have mailed me
tomorrow - if I
>survive the day
;-).
>
>Rich
>Emerald Green 94 R/T
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Date:
Sun, 18 Oct 1998 01:33:49 -0400
From: "Ron-a-roid" <
rtetetet@email.msn.com>
Subject:
Team3S: TEST REPLY
A- OK ON MY SYSTEM.
RON
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Date:
Sun, 18 Oct 1998 16:58:39 -0700
From: "Bob Forrest" <
bf@bobforrest.com>
Subject: Team3S:
Quickening II - first report...
Welcome and "congrats!" to
Gregg Couture, just (proudly) back from the
Quickening; two dozen cars
participated from as far away as Tennessee...
He won the coveted "Best
Overall Modification" prize for his Red '95
3000GT for the second year
in a row... Sounds like it was a blast...
BTW, if you didn't know,
Gregg has THE web page for how to care for a
car. He's been doing
detailing for 4 yrs now. Find "Gregg's Guide to a
Clean Ride"
on his website:
http://members.tripod.com/gcouture
.
The website also has a page where you can buy his weatherproof
vinyl
Stealth and 3000GT side-window labels (I've got the silver ones on
my
Stealth, and they look GREAT!).
I wish I could've joined you guys
for Quickening II... ALMOST made it
happen. See you next year, I
hope! :-)
Forrest
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Date:
Sun, 18 Oct 1998 20:50:21 EDT
From:
GC3000GT@aol.comSubject: Re: Team3S:
Quickening II - first report...
Thanks for the welcome, Bob!
The quickening WAS a blast -and many thanks go out to everybody who
helped set
this up this awesome event! Eric Lotter, Hyannis Mitsubishi,
Chien at Nexus,
and everybody who attended should be praised for their
dedication, time and
hard work. I'm sure more on the quickening will be
said soon enough. I'll
hopefully have pics and stories up on my site
very shortly.
I'm happy to now be a member of what seems to be the
beginnings of a "higher
class" list dedicated to the 3/S
family. Hopefully I can contribute some
worthy posts to the list - and
I look forward to finally reading some worthy
posts from you all as
well!
Gregg Couture
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Date:
Sun, 18 Oct 1998 20:01:22 -0700
From:
wce@bc.sympatico.caSubject: Re:
Team3S: FW: Hesitation/Knocks (The lost mail)
Hi Mikael;
Can you
post with the httlp// in your address so we can double click and go
there
instantly, rather than type the location and possibly comitt a
typo and not get there
at all...or find that perhaps a typo was inherit in
the address and still not get
there...have to love that blue
hyperscript!!
Your information on water injection is real interesting and
it may prove a godsend to
those who are experiencing knocking with their
TT's. Getting to the heart of your water
injection application will be
most appreciated by some/many I am sure.
Darc
Victoria, B.C.
....TT Stealth
Mikael Åkesson wrote:
> Hi
>
>
This mail have been lost in cyberspace for a few days,
>
> This is
the third time I send this mail to the list, let's hope it work this
time.
>
> I know that this thread died a long time ago but
this maybe interesting anyway.
>
> -----Original
Message-----
> From: Mikael Åkesson [
SMTP:vr4@bahnhof.se]
>
Sent: Wednesday, October 14, 1998 8:45 AM
>
To:
stealth-3000gt@list.sirius.com>
Subject: RE:
Hesitation/Knocks
>
> Interesting post Roger.
>
> The
car I had before my VR-4 was a Celica GT-4 with AWD and turbo. I had
>
alot of mods done to this car and my biggest problem was that the
ignition
> was retarded very much when there was a knock.
>
>
The cure for this was to add water !! Yes that's right. I bought a
little
> 12vpump and connected that to a bottle of water and got a small
nossle
> (right word?) and mounted that in the intake. I connected the
pump to a
> adjustable presure contact (solenoid). I tuned the system to
start spraying
> water at 0.9 bar. This allowed me to go from 1.05 to 1.3
bar without any
> knock at all. (And that's a BIG gain in
power)
>
> The water makes the combustion chamber much cooler and
that prevents the
> spontanious explosion in the chamber. (the gases gets
so hot that they self
> explode during the compression cycle and that
makes the knocking sound)
> Remember that this is extremely dangerous for
the engine, for the piston
> it's like hitting a wall when they are
supposed to go up.
>
> Ofcourse this is a "ugly" way to
cure a problem that is caused by bad
> construction in the first
place.
>
> For more info
www.aquamist.co.uk/>
> Hope
this help
>
> /Mikael /soon with water injection??
>
>
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Date:
Sun, 18 Oct 1998 23:53:21 -0500
From: Jeff Crabtree <
wjcrabtree@sprintmail.com>
Subject:
Team3S: Hey guys!!
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Well I just signed up
here(thanks Bob for bringing me onboard). Just to
give those of you
that have been absent from starnet a little news,
here's some
headlines.
* status quo at starnet....now they're
arguing about Jeep Cherokees
* I may need to replace the engine
in my car...had a little run in
with a LOUD knock,
but I threw some oil in and the knock has gotten
quieter.
* The embroidered merchandise might be one step closer
to making it
to the table. One of the guys on
starnet has written a letter to
Mitsu and we're
waiting to hear back.
* I'm going to File a lawsuit against the
place here in St. Louis
that recovered my seats in
my car(Southtown Auto Upholstry). They
did a
total botch job on my seats and then threw me off
their
property when I demanded my money
returned.
So, hopefully I can lend and borrow as productively from this
list as I
have up until recently from Starnet.
- --
- -Jeff
Crabtree
'91 R/T Turbo
#499
St. Louis,
MO
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Well I just signed up here(thanks Bob for bringing
me onboard). Just
to give those of you that have been absent from
starnet a little news,
here's some
headlines.
<BR>
<UL>
<LI>
status quo at
starnet....now they're arguing about Jeep
Cherokees</LI>
<LI>
I may need to replace the engine in my
car...had a little run in with a
LOUD knock, but I threw some oil in and the
knock has gotten quieter.</LI>
<LI>
The embroidered
merchandise might be one step closer to making it to the
table. One
of the guys on starnet has written a letter to Mitsu and
we're waiting to
hear back.</LI>
<LI>
I'm going to File a lawsuit against
the place here in St. Louis that recovered
my seats in my car(Southtown Auto
Upholstry). They did a total botch
job on my seats and then threw
me off their property when I demanded my
money
returned.</LI>
</UL>
So, hopefully I can lend and borrow as
productively from this list as I
have up until recently from
Starnet.
<P>--
<BR>-Jeff
Crabtree
<BR> '91 R/T Turbo
#499
<BR>
St. Louis, MO
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Date:
Mon, 19 Oct 1998 09:50:19 -0700
From: Chris Winkley <
cwinkley@plaza.ds.adp.com>
Subject:
Team3S: Welcome to Ron
Ron...
WELCOME!!!
I believe we can
manage to keep this list free from flames and noise. I, personally, have learned
a lot about
our cars from the technical experts on the starnet list, and
hope to see them all come over and create a
technical, sharing
forum.
This is not a 3S question, but I see you have a V1 detector (so do
I). Have you had any experience beating a
lidar ticket in
court?
Looking forward...Chris
"Friends don't let friends
ride with me"
1995 Glacier Pearl White VR4
- -----Original
Message-----
From: Ron-a-roid [SMTP:rtetetet@email.msn.com]
Sent:
Saturday, October 17, 1998 10:27 PM
To:
stealth-3000gt@list.sirius.com
Subject: Team3S: Hello team 3s
Got an
invite to join your list and wanted to say hello. I'll be just
hanging out
for a while to catch the flavor of things because I'm coming in
from starnet
where things are a little out of hand and I want this to work.
Hope
everyone is well and happy.
Ron
93 SL Dark Grey Metallic
Full lock
brakes (for Now:-( )
flaky windows
K&n FIPK
Valentine
One
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Date:
Mon, 19 Oct 1998 09:58:15 -0700
From: Chris Winkley
<cwinkley@plaza.ds.adp.com>
Subject: Team3S: Welcome
Jeff...
Jeff...
WELCOME!!!
Sorry to hear about your engine,
have you had a diagnostic run? I got my boost controller programmed
correctly (finally), and it's sunny today so Beastie is out on the roads.
WOW, what a difference it makes. I
set it at 1.1 bar with the "overtake
boost" at 1.3 bar. I'm afraid to punch that button, the engine already
roars at 1.1 bar!!! From what I've heard, at 1.3 bar I'm likely to get fuel
cut or knocking, neither of which
can be good for the engine. I just read
the post about water injection, that's an old trick they used to use
with
carbs (anyone remember carbs? :-)). Wonder what the risks are with our
engines?
Great news on embroidered merchandise (shirts?), I'm also
eagerly awaiting Bob running some screened
versions.
Looking
forward...Chris
"Friends don't let friends ride with
me"
1995 Glacier Pearl White VR4
- -----Original
Message-----
From: Jeff Crabtree [SMTP:wjcrabtree@sprintmail.com]
Sent:
Sunday, October 18, 1998 9:53 PM
To:
stealth-3000gt@list.sirius.com
Subject: Team3S: Hey guys!!
Well I just
signed up here (thanks Bob for bringing me onboard). Just to
give those
of you that have been absent from starnet a little news,
here's some
headlines.
* status quo at starnet....now they're
arguing about Jeep Cherokees
* I may need to replace the engine
in my car...had a little run in
with a LOUD knock,
but I threw some oil in and the knock has gotten
quieter.
* The embroidered merchandise might be one step closer
to making it
to the table. One of the guys on
starnet has written a letter to
Mitsu and we're
waiting to hear back.
* I'm going to File a lawsuit against the
place here in St. Louis
that recovered my seats in
my car(Southtown Auto Upholstry). They
did a
total botch job on my seats and then threw me off
their
property when I demanded my money
returned.
So, hopefully I can lend and borrow as productively from this
list as I
have up until recently from Starnet.
- --
- -Jeff
Crabtree
'91 R/T Turbo
#499
St. Louis,
MO
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Date:
Mon, 19 Oct 1998 10:17:09 -0700
From: Chris Winkley
<cwinkley@plaza.ds.adp.com>
Subject: Team3S: Welcome
Gregg...
Gregg...
WELCOME!!!
I was unable to get into your
mods page, I think it's my browser (in MS Outlook). Can you send me a list of
what you've done to that red beauty? Thanks.
And thanks to Bob for
connecting with you and recommending your site. :-)
Looking
forward...Chris
"Friends don't let friends ride with
me"
1995 Glacier Pearl White VR4
- -----Original
Message-----
From: Bob Forrest [SMTP:bf@bobforrest.com]
Sent: Sunday,
October 18, 1998 4:59 PM
To: Team3S
Subject: Team3S: Quickening II - first
report...
<snip>
BTW, if you didn't know, Gregg has THE web
page for how to care for a
car. He's been doing detailing for 4 yrs
now. Find "Gregg's Guide to a
Clean Ride" on his
website: http://members.tripod.com/gcouture .
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Date:
Mon, 19 Oct 1998 14:16:43 -0500
From: "Todd Shelton"
<tds@brightok.net>
Subject: Team3S: Three Cheers for Bob
Three
CHEERS for Bob and a new
and much improved (I bet) List.
Thanks for
alleviating the torturous
postings we've had to endure on Starnet.
Now
if I can just find that option to change
my default to text only composition.
[no html/no rich text]
J Young isn't going to like that! :(
- -
tds
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Date:
Mon, 19 Oct 1998 23:05:07 +0200
From: Mike Chapleski
<mike.chapleski@ibm.net>
Subject: Team3S: Tweaking the Blitz
DSBC
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OK,
Just signed up so lets see if there are
any pros out there.
I have the Blitz DSBC installed in
a '95 Stealth RT TT. I had
originally though there was only one
adjustment the "ratio", which is a
0-100 scale of the total amount
of boost the system is capable of. I
had originally set it at 65 and
was getting pretty a constant 14-15 psi
of boost in the peak power range of
3500-5500 RPM. However I would get
overboost to about 16.3.
It turned out the gain was set at 5.
So now I finally
reinstall the boost controller after getting to
Germany and try adjusting the
"gain". I set it to 32-gain and 45-ratio,
which is what
Kermit said he and Roger G. were using. At this setting,
I get about 14
psi when it levels out but it peaks at 18-19 psi. I am
very leery of
any boost above 15 psi, so what I want is to avoid
overboost but maintain
14-15 psi through the power range. Last night I
turned the ratio up to
80. At 70 mph in 3rd I floored it and boost
jumped to 22, before I let
out the gas. It did not look like the DSBC
was even working the
wastegates. So my questions are:
What is
"gain?"
What are the other functions on the DSBC? I
have the installation
instructions, which I got from Chein, but the Japanese
instructions have
many pages of what each function does, that are missing in
my
instructions.
What happens if you run 19 psi of boost on the stock
injectors and fuel
pump? Or more appropriately, what boost do you need
to get a high
output fuel pump and injectors?
And which would you buy
first?
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<BR> Just
signed up so lets see if there are any pros
out
there.
<P> I have the Blitz DSBC
installed in a '95 Stealth
RT TT. I had originally though there was
only one adjustment the
"ratio", which is a 0-100 scale of the
total amount of boost the system
is capable of. I had originally
set it at 65 and was getting pretty
a constant 14-15 psi of boost in the peak
power range of 3500-5500 RPM.
However I would get overboost to
about 16.3. It turned out
the gain was set at
5.
<P> So now I finally reinstall the
boost controller after
getting to Germany and try adjusting the
"gain". I set it to 32-gain
and 45-ratio, which is what
Kermit said he and Roger G. were using.
At this setting, I get
about 14 psi when it levels out but it peaks at
18-19 psi. I am
very leery of any boost above 15 psi, so what I want
is to avoid overboost
but maintain 14-15 psi through the power range.
Last night I turned
the ratio up to 80. At 70 mph in 3rd I floored
it and boost jumped
to 22, before I let out the gas. It did not look
like the DSBC was
even working the wastegates. So my questions
are:
<P><B>What is
"gain?"</B>
<P><B>What are the other
functions on the DSBC?</B> I have
the installation
instructions, which I got from Chein, but the Japanese
instructions have many
pages of what each function does, that are missing
in my
instructions.
<P>What happens if you run 19 psi of boost on the
stock injectors and fuel
pump? Or more appropriately, <B>what
boost do you need to get a high
output fuel pump and
injectors?</B>
<P><B>And which would you buy
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Date:
Mon, 19 Oct 1998 17:32:57 -0700
From: wce@bc.sympatico.ca
Subject: Re:
Team3S: Tweaking the Blitz DSBC
Mike Chapleski wrote:
>
>
OK,
> Just signed up so lets see if there are any
pros out there.
>
> I have the Blitz DSBC
installed in a '95 Stealth RT TT. I had
> originally though there
was only one adjustment the "ratio", which is
> a 0-100 scale of
the total amount of boost the system is capable of.
> I had originally set
it at 65 and was getting pretty a constant 14-15
> psi of boost in the
peak power range of 3500-5500 RPM. However I
> would get overboost
to about 16.3. It turned out the gain was set at
> 5.
>
> So now I finally reinstall the boost controller
after getting to
> Germany and try adjusting the "gain". I
set it to 32-gain and
> 45-ratio, which is what Kermit said he and Roger
G. were using. At
> this setting, I get about 14 psi when it levels
out but it peaks at
> 18-19 psi. I am very leery of any boost above
15 psi, so what I want
> is to avoid overboost but maintain 14-15 psi
through the power range.
> Last night I turned the ratio up to 80.
At 70 mph in 3rd I floored it
> and boost jumped to 22, before I let out
the gas. It did not look
> like the DSBC was even working the
wastegates. So my questions are:
>
> What is
"gain?"
>
> What are the other functions on the
DSBC? I have the installation
> instructions, which I got from
Chein, but the Japanese instructions
> have many pages of what each
function does, that are missing in my
> instructions.
>
>
What happens if you run 19 psi of boost on the stock injectors and
> fuel
pump? Or more appropriately, what boost do you need to get a
> high
output fuel pump and injectors?
>
> And which would you buy
first?
Hi Mike;
Our house resident Blitz expert, Roger, is on
holidays in Crete, so
unless someone who justcame in the door who is equally
as compitent with
this BC wants to jump in, you' have to wait a couple of
days for advice.
It'll be worth it , as Roger has been through his car and
mods, from A
to Z, and professional doesn't get any more professional. Now if
you
were running Apexi or Greddy, those experts are here too, and have
yet
to take their vacation in Crete :)
Darc
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Date:
Mon, 19 Oct 1998 20:20:09 -0500
From: "Todd D Shelton"
<tds@brightok.net>
Subject: Re: Team3S: Tweaking the Blitz
DSBC
Well I'm not a Blitz boost controller expert but
then again I'm
not off in Crete either :)
However I would like to say that you
should
consider yourself lucky that you are able to
get 19psi from your
stock turbos. A lot of us
were never able to get that much boost out of
the
stock turbos and it seems that only the users of the
Blitz boost
controller have seen pressure readings
that high from the stock turbos.
I don't believe that
you will max out the available fuel with the
stock
turbos but it would be safer to have the capability
to at least
monitor EGT's if you want to run in this range.
There have been enough
modified S/3K's running
13g's with the stock fuel pump and injectors that
I
wouldn't be too worried about leaning out but I would
recommend
monitoring EGT's and NOT running at
19psi for long periods of time on the
autobahn.
Considering that not many have been able to
achieve those levels
of boost with the stock turbos
this is somewhat of a unknown. Roger has
run above
1 bar with stock turbos/Blitz but was experiencing
some
detonation while dynotesting above 1.1 bar.
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Date:
Monday, October 19, 1998 4:06 PM
Subject: Team3S: Tweaking
the Blitz DSBC
What happens if you run 19 psi of
boost on the stock injectors and fuel
pump? Or more appropriately, what
boost do you need to get a high output
fuel pump and
injectors?
And which would you buy
first?
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Date:
Mon, 19 Oct 1998 22:36:01 EDT
From: GC3000GT@aol.com
Subject: Re: Team3S:
Welcome Gregg...
In a message dated 10/19/98 1:20:01 PM Eastern Daylight
Time,
cwinkley@plaza.ds.adp.com writes:
<< I was unable to get
into your mods page, I think it's my browser (in MS
Outlook). Can you send me
a list of
what you've done to that red beauty? Thanks.
>>
Hey Chris,
Actually - its not your browser....I haven't
had any nice pics of my car and
mods scanned in yet, so I haven't bothered to
put anything up on the site yet.
Here is a list of everything done to the
car. Remember - it's a '95
Base
model!
Modifications:
Engine:
- -K&N FIPK Open
Element Air Filter
- -Removal of Resonator
Stereo:
- -Pioneer
KEH-P7400 Fold Down Cassette Deck w/ remote
- -Pioneer DEQ-7200 Graphic
15-band Equalizer w/ DSP
- -Pioneer CDX-P610 6-disk CD changer in glove
box
- -Eclipse 8262 6 ½" Coaxial door speakers
- -Polk Audio
¾" EX2500 Tweeters in Dash
- -Kicker 12" Solo-Baric
Subwoofer in Sealed Enclosure
- -Precision Power Sedona Series 30W x 4 amp
running fronts and rears
- -Precision Power Sedona Series 50W x 2 amp running
subwoofer
Alarm System:
- -Excalibur AL-700 with Varad Scanners VS3000
LED
Lighting:
- -Diamond Blue 9006 80W Low Beam Bulbs
- -Catz XLO
Hyper-White 70W Dichroic Fog Lights
Miscellaneous after-market
items:
- -After-market Charcoal Leather from Classic Soft Trims
-
-After-market Landau Power Sunroof
- -Factory 18" VR-4 Chrome Rims
wrapped w/ BFG Comp T/A ZR's
- -Two Tone 120dB Air Horns
- -Die Hard Gold
900cca Battery
- -Mitsubishi Seatbelt Covers
- -RÄZO Carbon Fiber
Racing Pedals
- -Cell Phone
Phew - thats it for now. Again -
i'll have some pics posted very soon
(hopefully) so you can check it all out
yourself!
Thanks for the welcome,
Gregg
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Date:
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Subject:
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Hi I'm just testing to see if this
works.
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From:
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Hi Mike and Welcome to the PRO list :)
=20
I use
the Blitz DSBC and I'm very pleased with it.
=20
Ok you have the Ratio and
that is the value that changes the actuall =
boost. You can also set four
different ratios. This is very nice when =
for example running in the autumn
when the outside temparature changes =
from frost to warm on the same day.
The lower temperature will make the =
boost rise and you will probably get
fuel cuts if you don't lower the =
ratio. My ration for the 4 different
"programs" are 44, 47, 50, 53. I =
used to use 50 or 53 for ratio
but after I used some engine flush in the =
oil I use 44 or 47 to get the
same boost as I had before. (great stuff)=20
=20
The gain helps the boost
to pick up faster. My gain is set to ~45.
=20
The thing you have to do is
to turn the left knob until the display =
changes from green to red and you
see "warn" in the display. Then use =
the right knob to set the
boost that you want to have (highest). I =
recommend 1.05. Then puch the left
knob and you will be able to tune =
what the Blitz shall do when reaching
1.05. I have mine set to lower the =
boost by .1 bar for one second. This
will allow me to stay at 15 PSI of =
boost all the way to the RPM limiter
!!!! No other boost controller will =
do that. (that I heard
about)
=20
You can also set scramble mode but I haven't used this feature
because I =
feel that my system is working 100% anyway. So I think that would
just =
make things more complicated.
=20
You will not have any use for
higher boost than 1.15 bar because the =
engine will then produce knock and
that will retard the ignition and the =
power will get lost. On first and
second gear you maybe can go with some =
overboost without loosing power due
to ignition retard but on the higher =
gears the engine will loose more power
than you gain with the higher =
boost.
=20
Please note that we all have
used very different settings on our Blitz =
controllers so you must test what
is best for your car.
=20
Hope this helps (if not then go visit Roger in
Switzerland and he will =
tune it for you)
=20
Mikael
http://www.bahnhof.se/~vr4
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Till: Team3S
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Datum: den 19
oktober 1998 23:04
=C4mne: Team3S: Tweaking the Blitz
DSBC
=20
=20
OK,=20
Just signed up so lets see
if there are any pros out
there.=20
I have the Blitz DSBC
installed in a '95 Stealth RT TT. I had =
originally though there was
only one adjustment the "ratio", which is a =
0-100 scale of the
total amount of boost the system is capable of. I =
had originally set
it at 65 and was getting pretty a constant 14-15 psi =
of boost in the peak
power range of 3500-5500 RPM. However I would get =
overboost to about
16.3. It turned out the gain was set at
5.=20
So now I finally
reinstall the boost controller after getting to =
Germany and try adjusting
the "gain". I set it to 32-gain and 45-ratio, =
which is what
Kermit said he and Roger G. were using. At this setting, =
I get about
14 psi when it levels out but it peaks at 18-19 psi. I am =
very leery
of any boost above 15 psi, so what I want is to avoid =
overboost but
maintain 14-15 psi through the power range. Last night I =
turned the
ratio up to 80. At 70 mph in 3rd I floored it and boost =
jumped to 22,
before I let out the gas. It did not look like the DSBC =
was even
working the wastegates. So my questions are:=20
What is "gain?"=20
What are the other
functions on the DSBC? I have the installation =
instructions,
which I got from Chein, but the Japanese instructions have =
many pages of
what each function does, that are missing in my
=
instructions.=20
What happens if you run 19 psi
of boost on the stock injectors and =
fuel pump? Or more appropriately,
what boost do you need to get a high =
output fuel pump and
injectors?=20
And which would you buy
first?=20
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<DIV><FONT color=3D#000000 size=3D2>Hi Mike
and Welcome to the PRO
list=20
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<DIV><FONT color=3D#000000
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<DIV><FONT
size=3D2>I use the Blitz DSBC and I'm very pleased
with=20
it.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT
size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT
size=3D2>Ok you have the Ratio and that is the value that =
changes
the=20
actuall boost. You can also set four different ratios. This is very
nice =
when=20
for example running in the autumn when the outside
temparature changes =
from=20
frost to warm on the same day. The lower
temperature will make the boost =
rise=20
and you will probably get fuel
cuts if you don't lower the ratio. My =
ration for=20
the 4 different
"programs" are 44, 47, 50, 53. I used to use =
50 or
53=20
for ratio but after I used some engine flush in the oil I use 44 or 47
=
to get=20
the same boost as I had before. (great stuff)
</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT
size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT
size=3D2>The gain helps the boost to pick up faster. My gain =
is set
to=20
~45.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT
size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT
size=3D2>The thing you have to do is to turn the left knob =
until
the=20
display changes from green to red and you see "warn"
in the =
display.=20
Then use the right knob to set the boost that you
want to have =
(highest). I=20
recommend 1.05. Then puch the left knob and
you will be able to tune =
what the=20
Blitz shall do when reaching 1.05.
I have mine set to lower the boost by =
.1 bar=20
for one second. This
will allow me to stay at 15 PSI of boost all the =
way to the=20
RPM
limiter !!!! No other boost controller will do that. (that I
heard=20
about)</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT
size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT
size=3D2>You can also set scramble mode but I haven't used =
this
feature=20
because I feel that my system is working 100% anyway. So I think
that =
would just=20
make things more
complicated.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT
size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT
size=3D2>You will not have any use for higher boost than 1.15
=
bar=20
because the engine will then produce knock and that will retard
the =
ignition and=20
the power will get lost. On first and second gear
you maybe can go with =
some=20
overboost without loosing power due to
ignition retard but on the higher =
gears=20
the engine will loose more
power than you gain with the
higher=20
boost.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT
size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT
size=3D2>Please note that we all have used very different =
settings
on=20
our Blitz controllers so you must test what is best for your
=
car.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT
size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT
size=3D2>Hope this helps (if not then go visit Roger in =
Switzerland
and=20
he will tune it for
you)</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT
size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT
size=3D2>Mikael
<A=20
href=3D"http://www.bahnhof.se/~vr4">http://www.bahnhof.se/~vr4</A></FONT>=
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial
size=3D2><B>-----Ursprungligt=20
meddelande-----</B><BR><B>Från: </B>Mike
Chapleski <<A=20
=
href=3D"mailto:mike.chapleski@ibm.net">mike.chapleski@ibm.net</A>><BR>=
<B>Till:=20
</B>Team3S <<A=20
=
href=3D"mailto:stealth-3000gt@list.sirius.com">stealth-3000gt@list.sirius=
.com</A>><BR><B>Datum:=20
</B>den 19 oktober 1998 23:04<BR><B>Ämne:
</B>Team3S: Tweaking =
the=20
Blitz
DSBC<BR><BR></DIV></FONT>OK,
<BR> Just =
signed up
so=20
lets see if there are any pros out
there.=20
<P> I have
the Blitz DSBC installed in a '95 =
Stealth RT=20
TT. I had originally though there was only one adjustment
the=20
"ratio", which is a 0-100 scale
of the total amount of =
boost the=20
system is capable
of. I had originally set it at 65 and was
=
getting=20
pretty a constant 14-15 psi of boost in
the peak power range of =
3500-5500=20
RPM.
However I would get overboost to about 16.3.
=
It=20
turned out the gain was set at
5.=20
<P> So now I
finally reinstall the boost =
controller after=20
getting to Germany and try adjusting the "gain". I
=
set it to=20
32-gain and 45-ratio, which is what
Kermit said he and Roger G. were =
using. At
this setting, I get about 14 psi when it levels out =
but
it=20
peaks at 18-19 psi. I am very leery of any
boost above 15 psi, =
so what=20
I want is to avoid
overboost but maintain 14-15 psi through the =
power=20
range. Last night I turned the ratio up to 80. At 70 mph
=
in 3rd=20
I floored it and boost jumped to 22, before
I let out the gas. =
It did=20
not look like
the DSBC was even working the wastegates. So
my=20
questions are:=20
<P><B>What is
"gain?"</B>=20
<P><B>What are the other functions on the
DSBC?</B> I =
have the=20
installation instructions, which I got from Chein, but the
Japanese=20
instructions have many pages of what each
function does, that are =
missing in=20
my
instructions.=20
<P>What happens if you run 19 psi
of boost on the stock injectors =
and fuel=20
pump? Or more appropriately, <B>what boost do you need to get
=
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injectors?</B>=20
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Date:
Tue, 20 Oct 1998 08:11:31 -0400
From: Bob Fontana
<bfontana@securitytechnologies.com>
Subject: Team3S: Green Beast status
update (long)
Hi gang,
First of all, I apologize for using a
Microsoft Outlook mail client.
Don't worry, I didn't sell out -- Unix still
does rule.
I have gotten a lot of private e-mails from people over the
last
several months who have kept me up with the major events happening
in
the Stealth3000 world. Thanks to all of you for doing that.
One
thing's for sure, you guys are all getting faster and faster and my
motor's
sitting there half-built. Obviously, from the time slips
VR4Power and
Aso8 are getting, there's more than one way to skin a cat!
You have a car
with a stock '96 ECU and therefore no VPC and you have
a car with a '91 ECU
using the "conventional" VPC. One wonders
whether fuel is an
issue at all.
Roger Gerl, I have been over your site and will be waiting
your test
results as you add fuel to the equation. I speak for all of
us when
I say "thanks for sharing!" This is the empirical
information we
need. It sounds like the technician has a lot of
experience, too,
so I hope you avail yourself of it.
Now, about my
car. The reason I took the motor apart was to find
the source of a bad
oil leak. Those of you who remember the car
at Temple in late 96 might
have remembered how the bottom of
the car was simply *coated* with oil.
The oil leak showed up in
the spring of 96 after Delray Mitsubishi rebuilt
the motor, yada,
yada, yada. I was using 1 quart of oil every 400
miles. I kept
replacing rear main seals since there appeared to be oil
coming
from there. Clutches (yes, even my Broward disk) kept
getting
contaminated with oil, keeping me from getting the grip I
needed.
I decided to do the job myself because I can no longer trust
anyone
to work on my car. There's just too much at stake, and here
in
transient, fly-by-night South Florida, there's no expertise with
our
kind of car. I bought a crane and pulled it out myself.
What
I found was shocking. First, I noticed the ".50" on
the
piston tops - the block had been bored .020 oversize - without
my
knowledge. And, on my #2 cylinder wall, there was this strange line
running
clear from the bottom of the cylinder to the very top.
It
was about 1MM wide and .010 deep. The inner part of the groove
was
rough. Nobody that I talked to could explain to what it was.
Until
my machine shop guy saw it. He told me that the last machine
shop
had apparently gotten their tool stuck in that cylinder and had simply
forced the bit out. Then, instead of re-boring to clean up
the
groove, they put the motor back together and handed the car back
to
me. That explained the oil.
Another thing I found was on another
piston, the compression ring
was stuck in the ring groove, hung up to the
point that I sustained a
very deep cut trying to free it.
I have
switched jobs and have been working so much in the last 3 months
that I've
had maybe 20 hours to work on my motor. At this point, I
have the heads
on and the bottom end back together. The machine shop
took 5 months to
do my block, crank and heads. Here's what I got done:
Polish
crank
Bore block .0345 over
Balance pistons and rings
Press rod
pins
Overhaul valve train
3-angle valve job
Cut tops of valves
(increases flow on backside of valves)
Clean up heads and do a little more
porting on exhaust side
The machine shop guy, Dan, was slow as molasses,
but guys, he did a
superb job. He was also conciencious. I'm glad
I had enough patience
to wait instead of yanking my stuff out of there after
4 months!
I have J-E forged aluminum pistons .030 oversize. Since
Brad Bedell
had gotten some stock pistons made just a couple of months prior
by
simply sending them a stock one, J-E was able to use the setup as
a
model and simply increased the bore by .02953. Thanks for your
help,
Brad. BTW guys, you should see the work Brad has done to his
car -- he
should go into business fabricating stuff for our cars. I'd
be first in
line!
I have about 40 hours labor left plus I need to get that 1->2
synchro
installed that Jack T. got for me. Plus I need to fix that
1/4" hole
I found in my passenger side I/C. I keep forgetting that
I need to
do that. Oh, and I found the problem with my speedo -- the
metal
contacts in the connector were corroded to the point that they
broke
off when I tried to clean them up. Unfortunately, the contact
got
stuck inside of the harness.
Dave B. is making me up a set of
stainless steel O2 housings and Hau
gave me a set of Accel wires and some new
NGK plugs he want me to try.
Where is Hau, anyway? Last time I heard
from him was when he stopped
at my house in June on his way to Brazil.
Anybody have a current
e-mail address for him? Or phone
number?
That's all for now. Good to be back. Good to be
anywhere, really.
- -Bob
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Date:
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From: wce@bc.sympatico.ca
Subject: Re:
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Hi Ron;
I
can't believe it....a VR$4!!!! Allllllllright! Congratulations
in
advance. What's the color, k's etc??
Some things to look or
ask for are:
1) Service record...look for a) transmission problems b)
recall on brake
hoses c) 60k service if it's there yet...if not add a k to
the bill or
negotiate another k off the price.
2) 60k should include belt,
tensenor, waterpump & plugs as per previous
list subscriber's
recommendations. Some have even indicated replacing
cam and crank seals at
that time as well. Most of this is to avoid
repeat of the same disassembly if
one of these items fails. Rich (one of
our list develpers) can advise in
detail on the 60k when required. He's
building a photo journey of it. It
doesn't get any better than that.
3) Check out the transmission for leaks,
hard or clunky shifting, etc. A
good synthetic fluid change there (and Mobil
! 10-30 in the crank) might
be considered as part of your negotiations.
4)
Is an extended warranty available and if so, consider the extra $
for
it.
5) Who is the closest knowledgeable subscriber to you (Rich, Errin
(if
he's subscribed yet) ???)..maybe cruise down/ to their place
this
weekend and have them have a look at it...leave room in the
negotiations
for a return/immediate repair if something radical is
discovered.
6) I don't have some of the VR4 features on my TT that you will
have,
but check the active aero as I understand some problems developed
with
those. I'm sure you'll get other advice so I'll end it here.
Best
wishes
Darc
Ron-a-roid
wrote:
>
>
> OK guys, I'm
making the plunge and need the fine points
to
> look for. Found a 95 VR4 and I'm going
to look at Thursday
> or so to... most
likely buy it. The 93SL I have is great
but
> I guess I want _REALLY_ great. I also
have never cared for
> FWD. Besides
crunches, bends, shock leaks, tire wear,
etc,
> where are the red flag zones on a
VR4? Anxious and
>
excited,Ron-a-roid
>
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Hi
Ron;
<P>I can't believe it....a VR$4!!!! Allllllllright!
Congratulations
in advance. What's the color, k's
etc??
<P>Some things to look or ask for are:
<P>1)
Service record...look for a) transmission problems b) recall on brake
hoses
c) 60k service if it's there yet...if not add a k to the bill or
negotiate
another k off the price.
<BR>2) 60k should include belt, tensenor,
waterpump & plugs as per
previous list subscriber's recommendations.
Some have even indicated replacing
cam and crank seals at that time as well.
Most of this is to avoid repeat
of the same disassembly if one of these items
fails. Rich (one of our list
develpers) can advise in detail on the 60k when
required. He's building
a photo journey of it. It doesn't get any better than
that.
<BR>3) Check out the transmission for leaks, hard or clunky
shifting, etc.
A good synthetic fluid change there (and Mobil ! 10-30 in the
crank) might
be considered as part of your negotiations.
<BR>4) Is
an extended warranty available and if so, consider the extra
$ for
it.
<BR>5) Who is the closest knowledgeable subscriber to you (Rich,
Errin
(if he's subscribed yet) ???)..maybe cruise down/ to their place this
weekend
and have them have a look at it...leave room in the negotiations for
a
return/immediate repair if something radical is discovered.
<BR>6)
I don't have some of the VR4 features on my TT that you will have,
but check
the active aero as I understand some problems developed with
those. I'm sure
you'll get other advice so I'll end it here.
<P>Best
wishes
<P>Darc
<P>Ron-a-roid wrote:
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COLOR="#000000"><FONT SIZE=-1>OK
guys, I'm making the
plunge and need the fine points to look for. Found
a 95 VR4 and I'm going to
look at Thursday or so to... most likely buy
it. The 93SL I have is great but
I guess I want _REALLY_ great. I also
have never cared for FWD. Besides
crunches, bends, shock leaks, tire wear,
etc, where are the red flag zones on
a VR4?</FONT></FONT> <FONT
COLOR="#000000"><FONT SIZE=-1>Anxious
and
excited,</FONT></FONT><FONT COLOR="#000000"><FONT
SIZE=-1>Ron-a-roid</FONT></FONT></BLOCKQUOTE>
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Date:
Tue, 20 Oct 1998 08:50:04 -0800
From: Rich
<rleroy@pacifier.com>
Subject: Re: Team3S: Green Beast status update
(long)
Bob Fontana wrote:
<big snip>
> [...] I
have about 40 hours labor left [...]
Ya should've said something. I
was in Florida for my son's wedding and
ended up having a couple of full days
to kill before I came back. I
would *much* rather have driven a bit
south and spent my time on a
worthwhile project like putting (parts of) and
engine back together than
listening to my brother-in-law tell me what was
wrong with the world, my
life, his life ....
<hork>
<snippity-doo-dah>
> Where is Hau,
anyway? Last time I heard from him was when he stopped
> at my house
in June on his way to Brazil. Anybody have a current
> e-mail
address for him? Or phone number?
I talked to him a couple weeks
ago, and he's still in Brazil. AFAIK,
his yhauwang@gte.net addy is
still good. No phone # for him, though.
> That's all for
now. Good to be back. Good to be anywhere, really.
It's good
to see you posting again. I don't think there's a person on
the list(s)
that hasn't learned *something* from you over the years. I
know I
have.
Rich
Emerald Green 94 R/T
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Date:
Tue, 20 Oct 1998 11:04:33 -0800
From: Rich
<rleroy@pacifier.com>
Subject: Team3S: [Fwd: Re: Tweaking the Blitz
DSBC - LONG!!!]
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OK...
This wouldn't go to my "Team 3S BOD" list
either, now I'm down to trying just the two of you.
Looking backwards,
upwards, all around...Chris
==============================
Howdy
folks...
Troubleshooting time here. I've sent the following message to
the list twice. It doesn't appear on my end,
even when I cc myself. BUT, it
doesn't bounce back as undeliverable either. I'm receiving postings from the
rest of you. Any ideas?
Would someone forward this to the list (or to
Mike directly)? Thanks.
Darc...good advice on buying a
VR4.
Looking
forward...Chris
==============================
Mike...
WELCOME!!!
I
have a GReddy controller so I can't be too much help. I have, however, cut and
pasted a long message from
Roger sent back in September 1998, that talks
about the results of overboosting. Very well written. It's
after your
<snipped> message. My two cents worth...
My GReddy PRofec has a
ratio control (also in %). What it does, is control the OTB (overtake boost).
When you
set it, it's multiplying the boost limit you have. Soooo, in my
case, with my boost limited to 1.0 bar (the
psi / bar conversion is 1.0 bar
= 14.504 psi) and the ratio set at 25%, I get (if I press the OTB button)
1.25 bar (18.13 psi). What I've heard from several sources is that, heading
towards 20 psi with stock
everything will cause fuel cut and detonation
(both unhealthy).
Anyway, enjoy!!!
BTW...in electronics, GAIN =
the increase in amplitude (of a signal), expressed as a ratio of output to
input.
Looking forward...Chris
"Friends don't let friends
ride with me"
1995 Glacier Pearl White VR4
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From: Mike Chapleski [SMTP:mike.chapleski@ibm.net]
Sent:
Monday, October 19, 1998 2:05 PM
To: Team3S
Subject: Team3S: Tweaking the
Blitz DSBC
OK,
Just signed up so lets see if there
are any pros out there.
<snip>
What is
"gain?"
What are the other functions on the DSBC? I
have the installation
instructions, which I got from Chein, but the Japanese
instructions have
many pages of what each function does, that are missing in
my
instructions.
What happens if you run 19 psi of boost on the stock
injectors and fuel
pump? Or more appropriately, what boost do you need
to get a high
output fuel pump and injectors?
And which would you buy
first?
=============================================
Message from
Roger (aka: Robby)...
This is something for a future FAQ (TT related)
:
We all know that we can increase power and torque easily by just
pushing up the
boost on our cars. But you must also know that there are some
drawbacks as well
as some things you MUST know what your car will do if you
run high boost. I try
to cover a few of the most important things here. Why ?
I just found out that at
least one cylinder has gone south and I have to
rebuild my car. Well, I learned
my lesson not early enough and did not heard
to the winks my car gave me. Here
are some important points :
1.
Boost
Boost "should" be easily turned up to 15psi. Well, it is also
possible to turn
up boost up to 20psi as I did and the car runned like hell.
But can the car
handle that much boost ? Maybe yes, maybe not. For sure,
simply turning up the
boost doesn't give you healthy car. Also consider fuel,
timing, air, exhaust and
more parameters. If you installed a Boost Controller
(BC), aftermarket filter
and maybe an exhaust as well (DP,CAT,CBE), 15psi is
the MAX for a safe setup. If
you have a strong car, you can run higher boost
but listen to the following :
2. Fuel Cut
Fuel cut (FC) does exactly
what it says. Suppose you are running totally out of
gas when accelerating
around 5600 or just push the pedal to the ground through
the band, at 5500
let it off and push it again. Your car will shake and you'll
almost bite into
the steering wheel. This is how fuel cut feels. The fuel cut is
controlled by
the ECU as it takes parameters, like air-flow, temperature, rpms,
O2 sensors
and calculates the possible boost (shown on your meter) Also this
calculation
then relates to a point in the fuel map that finally describes the
amount of
fuel needed. This is how the ECU controls the injectors duty cycle. If
the
ECU then falls off the programmed fuel maps, i.e. the injectors are
running
at 100% (often also less) and it can't determine the next point of
the map than
the ECU thinks that here's something going wrong and shuts off
the fuel. The
fuel-cut is also related to engine knock, but this is discussed
later. As you
read, fuel cut depends on different parameters and is a
security thing of the
ECU. If you are running a safe setup you should not run
into this problem. If
you have bigger turbos, other injectors or even more
mods, you can get rid of
the cut with the help of a VPC, AFC or another ECU.
This because they are
tweaking the ECU by altering the air-flow signal and
therefore leads the ECU
back onto the maps.
3. Knock
All cars are
having a knock sensor. This sensor acts like a microphone and
listens to any
"strange" sound the engine makes. If your ECU is "hearing"
knock,
it starts thinking that there's something wrong with it. After a few
cycles with
knock, it starts to retard the timing by a specific amount of
degrees as it trys
to get rid of the knock by giving the spark later than
supposed. It therefore
doesn't burn the fuel that good and the power produced
goes back. This loss in
power is very well visible on the dyno as well as you
can feel it as a
HESITATION. This because the timing will be advanced again
after knock
disappeared for a few seconds. If knock doesn't disappear and the
timing cannot
be retarded anymore the car engages the fuel cut-off as well as
it jumps into an
emergency program. This is a special fuel-map that is speed
(rpm) related and
does not look on any table nor to any sensor. Also it is
limited to 3000rpms (on
mine). This means that you car runs in a mode that
allows you to drive into the
next garage. Interestingly, I've never seen a
Check Engine light in this
situation (?) The ECU switches back out of the
emergency program if it sees
proper values for a longer time (I guess it was
more than a minute or so) not
letting you go over 3000 (where the power is).
On my car we found knock was
starting at 1,05bars of boost ! Therefore any
overboost was hurting the car. I
never heard this knock when driving on the
street as the rpms rised pretty fast
and the only thing I felt was that the
car had a hesitation or bogged sometimes
very hard. I had knock !
4.
Fuel
The easiest thing to get rid of a lean situation is to give more fuel.
If the
temp in the chamber rises too high also giving more fuel will cool it.
But this
is not the way you should do it !!!! If the temp is too high or the
pressure is
too big then there's a cause for this situation. If this problem
is eliminated
then the additional fuel can be burnt and therefore will
produce power for you.
On our cars the biggest problem (of course there are
others) is the pressure as
well as the temperature in the exhaust manifold
before the turbo(s). If the
pressure is too high, already burnt gases will be
pushed back into the chamber
and a short but very lean situation occurs. On
the next cycle the situation can
be away and therefore the mixture is good
again. Due to the backpressure, the
chamber is preloaded with more pressure
and therefore the pistons and its rings
will be under heavy load when on BDC
(bottom dead center) of the cycle.
Therefore, bigger turbos on the exhaust
side and a better exhaust manifold will
help to get rid off the pressure.
Then the gases have to leave the turbos asap
as they will heat up anything.
The precats are the first and big restriction we
should think to get rid off.
Then the dp/cat and the rest of the exhaust will
finally help too. But it
doesn't help if you change only one section and still
have the restrictive
pre-cats in the front.
5. Air
The air should be cool when it enters
the chamber. The problem starts here in
our intake as the engine sucks
under-hood air in. Then the turbos heats the air
up by compressing it. This
can be simply calculated by adding the temp-increase
(also turbo-efficiency)
to the temp of the sucked air. Finally the air is cooled
down by the
intercoolers (air-air in our cars) to provide a lower temperature
for the
intake. The efficiency of the IC finally determines the intake
temperature as
well as the exhaust gases mixed by the EGT stuff. Therefore it is
a good idea
to give the car as much fresh and cool air as possible.
Unfortunately, no
real good solution has been found for our cars already.
A few months ago,
I dynoed the car and got 397hp(DIN add 2% for SAE) at
1.05bars. The car was
healthy then and I felt no problem. Even today it still
feels strong but the
blow-off valve started to push out a white oil-steam when
shifting as well as
my oil-cap started to leak due to much more pressure in the
crankcase as
normal. The compression test showed very low figures for all
cylinders as
well as two that were very little (105 and 71psi). Well, I had way
too much
boost over a long time (up to 20psi) and cured the fuel-cut with the
help of
an Air-Fuel Controller. But I didn't listen to the knock enough and now
...
time for a rebuild.
Hope that this helps anybody !
Roger,
Switzerland
93'3000GT TT
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Date:
Tue, 20 Oct 1998 14:44:38 -0500
From: Brad Bedell
<bbedell@texas.net>
Subject: Team3S: back
Hey everyone, I am
back.
I have something bugging me.
91-93 AWD vehicles
have on their sticker on the rear end gear 3.545.
94+ have 3.307 on the
sticker.
Has anyone ever mechanically determined the gear
ratio?
Brian at GT Alley claims that the tags are different, but the gear
ratio is really the same.
Can anyone, through a mechanical process prove
this right or wrong?
I am willing to take the cover off my rear
differential to count gears if someone else could do the same on a
94+.
> Brad
>
> Check out my home page:
http://lonestar.texas.net/~bbedell
> E-Mail: bbedell@texas.net ICQ#
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Date:
Tue, 20 Oct 1998 13:50:37 -0600
From: "Palamara, Peter"
<pala@gwl.com>
Subject: RE: Team3S: Green Beast status update
(long)
Hey Bob:::
I see that you had je pistons make
you some forged pistons. By chance
do you think they still have the mold for
them or however they make them
or do you think they will need one of my
stocks to make a copy for
forging.
This winter
as you all are mabey aware of we are installing greddy
manifolds and their
td05-16g upgrade on my car. Everything except for
the type-s wastegates has
to be shipped over from Japan to the US. I
wont go into cost but I needed to
strengthen up the bottom end for this
new found cfm ratings. It will be a
timely process as that I will be
doing some work on my own and some of it
will be done by action turbos,
and since the cost will be hopefully around
$7500 but as you all may
know the total outcome price is never what the
guessed price is. So we
will be doing this in stages since I'm not the
richest man on earth and
hopefully have the car done by the next import
shootout in august... I
will have a web sight up for pictures on the process
as it takes
place...
Pete Palamara
92 3000vr-4(GTO)
500 hp of
Fun
(303)689-4733
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Date:
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From: Brad Bedell
<bbedell@texas.net>
Subject: RE: Team3S: Green Beast / JE
Pistons
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Pete, Talk to Rich Garner at JE. I
setup an account there awhile =
back.
He may do the same for you, just
tell him that I sent you his way.
I can dig up the job # for you if you
like, this way you will can avoid =
shipping him a piston.
A note for
everyone, if enough people wanted to order a set of pistons, =
JE
offers quantity purchases. I believe quantity over 40 units will
=
allow piston cost to be ~65.00 each.
I would be interested in a
spare set at the 65.00 each price. I would =
be happy to organize a
large purchase if anyone was interested in doing =
this. I
could help get the quantity up a bit through the DSM guys.
>
Brad
>=20
> Check out my home page:
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Hey Bob:::
I see that you had je
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do you think they still have
the mold for them or however they make them
or do you think they will need
one of my stocks to make a copy for
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Date:
Tue, 20 Oct 1998 16:11:46 -0400
From: "Theiss, Charles"
<charles.theiss@lmco.com>
Subject: Team3S: pistons
I would be
interested in placing an order also if we are able to get them
for
$65.
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Date:
Tue, 20 Oct 1998 16:16:35 -0400
From: "Fein, Edward"
<fein@strategy.com>
Subject: Team3S: Check Engine codes?
Does
anyone know how to get the trouble codes out of the ECU when the
'Check
Engine' light comes on? I mean, other than going to a
dealer?
Over the long weekend my car has started getting Check Engine
lights. So
far, the past three times I have filled the gas tank, the 'Check
Engine'
light has come on within 50 miles of driving. These have been the
only times
the light has come on, however. Since the engine seemed to be
running fine,
I just disconnected the battery to resetthe ECU codes - and the
light stays
out until the next time I refill the tank. The funny thing is,
when I put 8
gallons in (leaving it still below 3/4 full) I didn't get the
light.
So it seems to have something to do with the tank being full. I
would
suspect a leaky gas cap. Except I have a '94 and the fuel tank
pressure
sensor is part of OBD-II, right?
I've looked through my shop
manuals and none of the codes have any check
conditions related to a full gas
tank. So I'd like to be able to pull the
code off my ECU (after my next
fill-up) but I don't want to go to a dealer.
For now I'll just avoid filling
the tank completely...
Any help or suggestions people could give would be
appreciated.
Thanks,
-Ed
'94 VR-4
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Date:
Tue, 20 Oct 1998 15:21:24 -0500
From: Brad Bedell
<bbedell@texas.net>
Subject: RE: Team3S: Check Engine codes?
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Yes, On the 91-93 cars there is a little 10 pin (I think)
white connector next to the fuse box under the drivers side of the
dash.
I forget which pin it is, but you take a test lamp ground on end of
the lamp and probe the pins.
The light will blink your code out.
I
think the pin is the bottom left one. Pin #10 comes to mind.
In any
case, just probe the pins until you find the correct one, just be careful not to
probe two at once.
> Brad
>
> Check out my home
page: http://lonestar.texas.net/~bbedell
> E-Mail:
bbedell@texas.net ICQ# 3612682
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From: Fein, Edward [SMTP:fein@strategy.com]
Sent: Tuesday,
October 20, 1998 3:17 PM
To: 'stealth-3000gt@list.sirius.com'
Subject:
Team3S: Check Engine codes?
Does anyone know how to get the trouble
codes out of the ECU when the 'Check
Engine' light comes on? I mean, other
than going to a dealer?
Over the long weekend my car has started
getting Check Engine lights. So
far, the past three times I have filled the
gas tank, the 'Check Engine'
light has come on within 50 miles of driving.
These have been the only times
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Date:
Tue, 20 Oct 1998 14:40:26 -0600
From: "Palamara, Peter"
<pala@gwl.com>
Subject: RE: Team3S: Green Beast / JE Pistons
I'm
all for it too, but if you have a contact and phone # and workorder
# I would
appreciate it allot. Thanx
Pete Palamara
92 3000vr-4(GTO)
500 hp
of Fun
(303)689-4733
> -----Original Message-----
> From:
bbedell@texas.net [SMTP:bbedell@texas.net]
> Sent: Tuesday, October 20,
1998 2:00 PM
> To: 'stealth-3000gt@list.sirius.com'
> Subject: RE:
Team3S: Green Beast / JE Pistons
>
> Pete, Talk to Rich
Garner at JE. I setup an account there awhile
> back.
>
He may do the same for you, just tell him that I sent you his way.
>
> I can dig up the job # for you if you like, this way you will
can
> avoid shipping him a piston.
>
> A note for everyone,
if enough people wanted to order a set of
> pistons, JE offers
quantity purchases. I believe quantity over 40
> units will
allow piston cost to be ~65.00 each.
>
> I would be interested in a
spare set at the 65.00 each price. I would
> be happy to organize a
large purchase if anyone was interested in
> doing this.
I could help get the quantity up a bit through the DSM
> guys.
>
> > Brad
> >
> > Check out my home
page: http://lonestar.texas.net/~bbedell
> > E-Mail:
bbedell@texas.net ICQ# 3612682
>
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