team3s             Monday, March 26 2001             Volume 01 : Number 445




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Date: Sun, 25 Mar 2001 22:00:46 -0500
From: "Rick Hawley" <tt_3kgt@hotmail.com>
Subject: Team3S: Indy/ Midwest 3000GT/ Stealth Club!

<html><DIV>Everyone, </DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV></DIV>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Here is part two of the Indy Midwest Club. I have had numerous responses about the club and hope to hear from alot more of you really soon! This club is based out of Indianapolis, Indiana and will pretty much cover all surrounding states (Illinois, Ohio, Michigan, Kentucky, Indiana). If you live in these states join the club!!! There is going to be NUMEROUS gatherings this year and alot of events that we will all be able to go to to show off our rides. The next gathering is scheduled for Saturday, May 12th. This gathering will be in Greenwood, Indiana (20 minutes south of Indy). We will all be meeting up at a local park for a BQ and will possibly be having a couple of shops here in town stop in for a little advertisment and quotes for parts and upgrades. I am also trying to get something going with the local Mitsu dealership to see if they want to have a group fix done or something to that nature. This gathering is going to be a blast and will b!
 e a good time to meet some of the people that you have only heard from in emails!
<DIV></DIV>
<DIV></DIV>I have also been talking with a friend of mine about having shirts made up for the club. The options are going to be polos, tees, sweatshirts.. etc. I am looking into pricing now and I should have that sent out to everyone soon. Also I am looking into have the local decal shop do up a design to represent everyone that is in the club. Something small and original but shows the 3si pride. The webpage is currently under development now and will probably be one of the free sites until we can get the numbers higher for the Midwest club and can get a registered name.
<DIV></DIV>
<DIV></DIV>If you have not signed up for the club and want to please send your information to me! Please send along your:
<DIV></DIV>
<DIV></DIV>Name (first last)
<DIV></DIV>Address
<DIV></DIV>Phone
<DIV></DIV>Car Make
<DIV></DIV>Car Model
<DIV></DIV>A few car pics
<DIV></DIV>Mod list
<DIV></DIV>
<DIV></DIV>
<P>You should hear from me within 24 hours of emailing me. Hope to hear from everyone that is interested soon! Summer is just around the corner and my baby is ready to get out of the garage! </P>
<DIV></DIV>
<DIV></DIV>
<P>&nbsp;</P>
<P>Rick Hawley </P>
<P>1993 3000GT VR-4 </P>
<DIV></DIV>Indy-Midwest Club Founder
<DIV></DIV>TT_3KGT@hotmail.com
<DIV></DIV>
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Date: Sun, 25 Mar 2001 22:16:38 -0600
From: "Oskar" <osk@mediaone.net>
Subject: Re: Team3S: Stillen downpipe+Borla cat-back

I have the Borla with "free flow" cats all the way thru.  Stock downpipe for
the moment as the faulty Alamo DP had to be returned.  It is loud, but not
loud enough to where cops pull ya over.  Honda Civics and Geo Metros with
fart tips are probably louder.

Oskar
'95 R/T TT

- ----- Original Message -----
From: "Andrew Spargo" <spargo@emirates.net.ae>
To: "Team3S" <Team3S@stealth-3000gt.st>
Sent: Wednesday, March 21, 2001 10:23 AM
Subject: Team3S: Stillen downpipe+Borla cat-back


> After reading as much as I can from the list reference exhausts for our
> cars, I would like to fit the Stillen downpipe with the Borla cat-back
> system, so I would have no cats/pre-cats etc. only the small resonated
tips
> at the tailpipe. Remember guys I'm in the Middle East so we have no
emission
> controls at present and we don't switch to unleaded for another 6 years.
The
> only thing they might be able to catch me on is noise (i.e. Decibels), so
my
> question is, just how much noise does this set-up give? Basically,
> forgetting emissions, could you guys in the States drive down the road
with
> this set-up without getting pulled over?
>
> Andy Spargo
> Abu Dhabi
> United Arab Emirates
>
> e-mail    spargo@emirates.net.ae
>
>
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Date: Mon, 26 Mar 2001 01:04:31 -0500
From: "Schilberg, Darren" <DSchilberg@freemarkets.com>
Subject: RE: Team3S: Rollbar

Oskar,

   I do not know how else makes them but I do not know of any wider-known
name than Autopower.  Just today I was showing it to a fellow-AutoX'er (SM
national champ Kent Rafferty actually) and he asked if it was an Autopower.
It's name says it all.  Check out I/O Port Racing, www.ioportracing.com, and
ask for Ken Myers as he was most helpful in getting me situated with the
order and install.
   Check out the Team3S FAQ page for my install pix of the rollbar.  More
pics on the way and a write-up if I ever get it made (sorry Forrest).  For
those wondering ... I needed a harness bar to use with the harnesses because
the local PCA group requires it when participating in their driving schools.
And how can you put in a harness bar easily when a few hundred more gets a
full SCCA-certified rollbar.  It also allowed me to add a camera mount for
video.

- --Flash!
dschilberg@pobox.com
www.flash95vr4.com

3Si #577
1995 Black VR-4 w/ Big Reds, rollbar, harnesses, and a custom spark plug
plate
http://www.team3s.com/FAQrollbar.htm

- -----Original Message-----
From: Oskar [mailto:osk@mediaone.net]
Sent: Sunday, March 25, 2001 10:59
To: Team3S
Subject: Team3S: Rollbar


What companies manufacture fitted rollbars for our cars?  I have looked at
the Autopower rollbar, but would like to evaluate any others before
deciding.

Thanks,
Oskar
'95 R/T TT

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Date: Mon, 26 Mar 2001 07:36:50 -0500
From: "Michael Bulaon" <profilevr4@3000gtvr4.net>
Subject: Team3S: How to discharge A/C system.

I will be attempting to do the 60k service on my 95 VR-4. It would seem that
the A/C system needs to be discharged in order to move one of the A/C lines
out of the way while performing the 60k service. I was just wondering if
anyone could tell me how should I go about discharging the A/C sytem.

Thanks in advance to all replies.

Michael Bulaon


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Date: Mon, 26 Mar 2001 11:17:04 -0600
From: Merritt <merritt@cedar-rapids.net>
Subject: Team3S: Need a battery

The OEM battery in my 94 VR4 finally died this winter. It won't hold a
charge any longer.

Curt Gendron wants me install a half-size battery (from Walmart), so we'll
have room for the water injection tank that will be going in one of these
days. I'll probably do that unless I can find a way to mount a battery in
the back.

My question to the group is:
Has anyone successfully mounted a battery in the rear? Is there any short
battery that can fit back there in the plastic trays on either side of the
spare tire and still fit under the cardboard/carpet cover? Got a product
name and model number?

I suppose I could mount the battery on the floor behind the passenger seat,
but that restricts movement of the seat.

Any thoughts, anyone?

Rich/old poop/94 VR4

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Date: Mon, 26 Mar 2001 11:38:45 -0600
From: "Mark Wendlandt" <stealth_tt@hotmail.com>
Subject: Re: Team3S: How to discharge A/C system.

Michael,

You do not need to disconnect any A/C hoses.  Just unbolt it from the fender
and firewall and you will then be able to lift it out of the way(it is
flexible). I tie it out of the way...usually to the hood.  Also, I
completely removed the alternator on the first one that I did, you do not
have to do this just loosen it enough to get out of the way of the engine
mount.

I get the impression from your email that you don't have a service manual?? 
If this is true, I would not do the 60K unless you have it.  It has many
necessary torque specs as well as the belt tensioning procedure.

Good luck,

Mark Wendlandt
'91RT/TT



>I will be attempting to do the 60k service on my 95 VR-4. It would seem
>that
>the A/C system needs to be discharged in order to move one of the A/C lines
>out of the way while performing the 60k service. I was just wondering if
>anyone could tell me how should I go about discharging the A/C sytem.

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Date: Mon, 26 Mar 2001 13:03:40 -0600
From: "Willis, Charles E." <cewillis@TexasChildrensHospital.org>
Subject: Team3S: VR4 tubing trivia

Just got a replacement for a vacuum hose that gets brittle and leaks and is
difficult to replace with OEM hose because it makes two 180 degree bends.

It's called the Rocker Cover Breather Hose (MD168014) and goes from the
front of the intake manifold plenum down under the y-pipe and connects to
the BOV.

It was backordered since late January.  This one is colored GREEN instead of
the last one I got that is BLACK.

 

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Date: Mon, 26 Mar 2001 14:36:12 -0500
From: "Schilberg, Darren" <DSchilberg@freemarkets.com>
Subject: RE: Team3S: Need a battery

Rich,

I will be installing an Optima Red Top battery soon.  I hear those are
smaller since the stock battery tie-down cable does not reach the smaller
battery.  It isn't half-size but it is smaller.  I would vote for the
"racing" battery (ones without the acid sloshing around and can be mounted
in any orientation - even upside down) since it is safer in the long run.

The Optima Red Top (they also have yellow top ones) have enough oomph for
several years of use.  I did a search and here are the places in Iowa for
you (might want to search the neighboring states too) or just order and have
it shipped.

http://www.optimabatteries.com/main.htm
- - Optima Red Top Battery: 800S or 800U (not recommended for deep cycles)
- - Part number 8002-002
- - 800 CCA
- - 38 pounds

- - Optima Yellow Top Battery: 750S (recommended for deep cycles)
- - Part number 8012-021
- - 750 CCA
- - 43 pounds

Linch Auto Parts, Adel, Iowa
Arsen Auto Parts, Algona, Iowa
Interstate Batteries - Des Moines, Altoona, Iowa
Johnston Distributing - Big A, Ames, Iowa
Bedford Auto Supply, Bedford, Iowa
Iowa Auto and Machine, Carroll, Iowa
Batteries Plus, Cedar Rapids, Iowa
Chapman Auto Supply Center, Cedar Rapids, Iowa
Chapman Auto Supply S.E., Cedar Rapids, Iowa
Johnston Distributing - Big A, Centerville, Iowa
Brown's Auto Supply, Clarinda, Iowa
Cresco Machine Company, Cresco, Iowa
Creston Auto Parts, Creston, Iowa
City Auto Parts, Denison, Iowa
Batteries Patrol Incorporated, Des Moines, Iowa
Johnston Distributing, Des Moines, Iowa
Johnston Distributing - Big A, Des Moines, Iowa
Big A Auto Parts (Store B), Des Mooines, Iowa
Auto Mate of Forest City, Forest City, Iowa
Anderson Auto Parts, Glenwood, Iowa
Town and Country Parts, Guthrie Center, Iowa
Hawkeye Auto Parts, Harlan, Iowa
Interstate Batteries - Upper Iowa, Huxley, Iowa
Johnston Distributing Co., Johnston, Iowa
The Parts Stop, Kalona, Iowa
Wagner Auto Supply, Lemars, Iowa
Logan Auto Supply, Logan, Iowa
Collins Motor Supply, Mapleton, Iowa
Motor Parts Sales, Marcus, Iowa
Morgan's Auto Parts, Muscatine, Iowa
Schnack Auto Parts #2, Oakland, Iowa
Smith Auto Supply, Onawa, Iowa
Action Auto Supply, Orange City, Iowa
Bob's Auto Supply, Osceola, Iowa
K L Parts Inc., Pleasantville, Iowa
Red Oak Auto and Machine, Red Oak, Iowa
Jerry's Auto Parts, Rock Valley, Iowa
Iowa Automotive, Sac City, Iowa
Genuine Parts Co., Shenandoah, Iowa
Arrow Speed Warehouse - Sioux City, Sioux City, Iowa
Interstate Batteries - Sioux City, Sioux City, Iowa
G&G Auto Parts, Vinton, Iowa
Douglas Battery of Iowa, Waterloo, Iowa
Quality Auto, Webster City, Iowa
West Union Motor Supply, West Union, Iowa
Madison Auto Supply, Winterset, Iowa

I found a post from Mohler on the subject.

- --Flash!
dschilberg@pobox.com

3Si #577
1995 Black VR-4 w/ Big Reds, rollbar, harnesses, and a custom spark plug
plate
http://www.team3s.com/FAQrollbar.htm

- -----Original Message-----
From: Mohler, Jeff [mailto:jeff.mohler@netapp.com]
Sent: Tuesday, January 02, 2001 3:47 PM
Subject: RE: Battery for racing

Optima yellow-top battery.  Wont leak, no acid, and can be run DRY hundreds
of times with no plate degridation.

Theres some photos of what I have right here:
http://www.speedtoys.com/~gemohler/jeep/install/

I have the same in the VR4, and my other cars.

- -----Original Message-----
From: Schilberg, Darren [mailto:DSchilberg@freemarkets.com]
Sent: Wednesday, December 27, 2000 8:14 PM

Is there a good battery to use for road racing and street driving?  A friend
suggested anything not acid-filled.  Something like a gel cell.  Any ideas
on which ones are good and where to get one?

- -----Original Message-----
From: Merritt [mailto:merritt@cedar-rapids.net]
Sent: Monday, March 26, 2001 12:17 PM

The OEM battery in my 94 VR4 finally died this winter. It won't hold a
charge any longer.

Curt Gendron wants me install a half-size battery (from Walmart), so we'll
have room for the water injection tank that will be going in one of these
days. I'll probably do that unless I can find a way to mount a battery in
the back.

My question to the group is:
Has anyone successfully mounted a battery in the rear? Is there any short
battery that can fit back there in the plastic trays on either side of the
spare tire and still fit under the cardboard/carpet cover? Got a product
name and model number?

I suppose I could mount the battery on the floor behind the passenger seat,
but that restricts movement of the seat.

Any thoughts, anyone?

Rich/old poop/94 VR4

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Date: Mon, 26 Mar 2001 14:42:02 -0500
From: "Schilberg, Darren" <DSchilberg@freemarkets.com>
Subject: RE: Team3S: VR4 tubing trivia

Chuck,

I went all out and ordered a set of silicone vacuum hoses from Hose
Techniques, http://www.hosetechniques.com, and now my engine is turning out
a bit nicer and I hope the engine is breathing better too.

The two 180-degree bends are not a problem with the new silicone hose as it
is more flexible.  Some of the stock pieces were salvaged and put over the
new hose to persuade it to a shape other than straight.

I have the 60k coming up in 5k so I am doing this as preventive maintenance
also (and to keep the red theme going on the car).  Some of the hoses I took
off were quite brittle even after a short 5 years.

- --Flash!
dschilberg@pobox.com

3Si #577
1995 Black VR-4 w/ Big Reds, rollbar, harnesses, and a custom spark plug
plate
http://www.team3s.com/FAQrollbar.htm

- -----Original Message-----
From: Willis, Charles E. [mailto:cewillis@TexasChildrensHospital.org]
Sent: Monday, March 26, 2001 2:04 PM
To: Team3S@stealth-3000gt.st

Just got a replacement for a vacuum hose that gets brittle and leaks and is
difficult to replace with OEM hose because it makes two 180 degree bends.

It's called the Rocker Cover Breather Hose (MD168014) and goes from the
front of the intake manifold plenum down under the y-pipe and connects to
the BOV.

It was backordered since late January.  This one is colored GREEN instead of
the last one I got that is BLACK.

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Date: Mon, 26 Mar 2001 13:51:16 -0600
From: "Jannusch, Matt" <mjannusch@marketwatch.com>
Subject: RE: Team3S: Need a battery

> I will be installing an Optima Red Top battery soon.  I hear those are
> smaller since the stock battery tie-down cable does not reach
> the smaller battery.  It isn't half-size but it is smaller.  I would
> vote for the "racing" battery (ones without the acid sloshing
> around and can be mounted in any orientation - even upside down)
> since it is safer in the long run.

I'd recommend the Odyssey racing battery over the Optima products hands-down
for space saving applications.  I have the PC925 which is 470 cold cranking
amps.  It is 6.5" wide, 7" long, and only 5" high.  Not only that, but the
Optima weighs 38 pounds and the Odyssey (if I remember correctly) is 26
pounds.

Haven't had any problems with mine, starts the car every time (even in cold
temps it isn't a problem), enough power to raise/lower the convertible top
with the motor off, etc.

$160

http://www.jegs.com/cgi-bin/ncommerce3/ProductDisplay?prrfnbr=534&prmenbr=76
&path=76%202379%202382%202680

Gel-cell batteries are still acid inside, so if you hit something hard
enough to break it open you are still going to get acid strewn about.  The
Odyssey is a dry-cell variant.

Not sure if 5" tall is short enough to fit in the rear storage bins - I
doubt it.  I don't think you'll find many batteries shorter than 5" tall
though.

- -Matt
'95 3000GT Spyder VR4

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Date: Mon, 26 Mar 2001 14:24:11 -0600
From: "Walton C. Gibson" <kalla@tripoint.org>
Subject: Team3S: My '96 3000GT is still for sale

My '96 3000GT base model is still for sale. It is red, 54,000 miles,
tan cloth interior with black dash. Infinity premium sound system
with 6 disc changer.  Excellent mechanical and physical condition.

I'll take $13,000. I can supply plenty of pictures on request. The
car is located in Birmingham, AL.


Regards,

Walton C. Gibson
kalla@tripoint.org


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Date: Mon, 26 Mar 2001 14:57:14 -0800
From: "Dr. John A. Tabler" <jtabler@summitmicro.com>
Subject: Team3S: Porterfield, Hawk, Motul Group Buy  FRAUD???

Hi All,
I just called CTC to check on the order I placed for pads.  I got a "the number
you have dialed has been disconnected..."
The credit card charge went through today.
WHAT'S GOIN' ON HERE???

Has anyone heard from Kyle in the last few days?

John

Jeff wrote:

> Hey everyone, I just wanted to let you know that CTC Motorsports is doing a
> group buy on Porterfield, Hawk, and Motul products.  I think they'll be
> going for 20% off.  If you're interested in new pads or some high temp fluid
> e-mail them at kyle@ctcmotorsports.com or call 1-877-501-4282.  You can see
> the application list at www.porterfield-brakes.com but make sure you call
> Kyle at CTC for the group buy pricing.
>
> I have the R4E's on my Spyder which with me in it is 4200lbs and I have
> absolutely no complaints.  I'll be ordering 2 more sets so that I'll have a
> spare.
>
> jeff
> '95 Mitsubishi Spyder VR-4
> '95 Chevrolet K1500 Z71
>
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Date: Mon, 26 Mar 2001 15:05:51 -0800 (PST)
From: Geoff Mohler <gemohler@speedracer.speedtoys.com>
Subject: Re: Team3S: Porterfield, Hawk, Motul Group Buy  FRAUD???

If you didnt lose $ already, I gladly pass my wholesale pricing to team3s
members for brakes. 

On Mon, 26 Mar 2001, Dr. John A. Tabler wrote:

> Hi All,
> I just called CTC to check on the order I placed for pads.  I got a "the number
> you have dialed has been disconnected..."
> The credit card charge went through today.
> WHAT'S GOIN' ON HERE???
>
> Has anyone heard from Kyle in the last few days?
>
> John
>
> Jeff wrote:
>
> > Hey everyone, I just wanted to let you know that CTC Motorsports is doing a
> > group buy on Porterfield, Hawk, and Motul products.  I think they'll be
> > going for 20% off.  If you're interested in new pads or some high temp fluid
> > e-mail them at kyle@ctcmotorsports.com or call 1-877-501-4282.  You can see
> > the application list at www.porterfield-brakes.com but make sure you call
> > Kyle at CTC for the group buy pricing.
> >
> > I have the R4E's on my Spyder which with me in it is 4200lbs and I have
> > absolutely no complaints.  I'll be ordering 2 more sets so that I'll have a
> > spare.
> >
> > jeff
> > '95 Mitsubishi Spyder VR-4
> > '95 Chevrolet K1500 Z71
> >
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>
>
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- ---
Geoff Mohler <gemohler@speedtoys.com
California, USA

I own a lotta cars.  But in the best interests of not having to continualy
edit this file to meet the needs of eight specific lists, and no to awaken the
idiots within others who think -thier- cars are the best and Im a fool for
having anything -but- thier kind of car..I have not listed them.  If Im on
the list you are reading..I have one.


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Date: Mon, 26 Mar 2001 16:54:12 -0800
From: "nwlink" <vlsgto@nwlink.com>
Subject: Team3S: Battery and GT PRO Carbon Fiber Hood

Darren and all,

When u get the Odysessy (Predator) battery, be sure to also get a trickle
charger from a local auto store. Unless you start the car every other day,
the battery will die. This happens more frequently when the weather is cold
out. Trickle charger costs only $25.

Regarding Brian's CF hood, I am sure all of you who ordered know that there
was a slight hiccup. Anyway, I am speaking on behalf of Brian and would like
the state that there was an internal problem and it has now been resolved.
The hood should be ready soon.

Enjoy!

Julian Huang
94 Mitsubishi Veilside Tein TEC GTO tt
01 Tweety Yellow Toyota Altezza
Team 3S
Seattle, Washington
vlsgto@nwlink.com
"Caution: You are about to enter a NO SPIN ZONE!"

- -----Original Message-----
From: owner-team3s@stealth-3000gt.st
[mailto:owner-team3s@stealth-3000gt.st]On Behalf Of Schilberg, Darren
Sent: Monday, March 26, 2001 11:36 AM
To: 'Merritt'; Team3S@stealth-3000gt.st
Subject: RE: Team3S: Need a battery


Rich,

I will be installing an Optima Red Top battery soon.  I hear those are
smaller since the stock battery tie-down cable does not reach the smaller
battery.  It isn't half-size but it is smaller.  I would vote for the
"racing" battery (ones without the acid sloshing around and can be mounted
in any orientation - even upside down) since it is safer in the long run.

The Optima Red Top (they also have yellow top ones) have enough oomph for
several years of use.  I did a search and here are the places in Iowa for
you (might want to search the neighboring states too) or just order and have
it shipped.

http://www.optimabatteries.com/main.htm
- - Optima Red Top Battery: 800S or 800U (not recommended for deep cycles)
- - Part number 8002-002
- - 800 CCA
- - 38 pounds

- - Optima Yellow Top Battery: 750S (recommended for deep cycles)
- - Part number 8012-021
- - 750 CCA
- - 43 pounds

Linch Auto Parts, Adel, Iowa
Arsen Auto Parts, Algona, Iowa
Interstate Batteries - Des Moines, Altoona, Iowa
Johnston Distributing - Big A, Ames, Iowa
Bedford Auto Supply, Bedford, Iowa
Iowa Auto and Machine, Carroll, Iowa
Batteries Plus, Cedar Rapids, Iowa
Chapman Auto Supply Center, Cedar Rapids, Iowa
Chapman Auto Supply S.E., Cedar Rapids, Iowa
Johnston Distributing - Big A, Centerville, Iowa
Brown's Auto Supply, Clarinda, Iowa
Cresco Machine Company, Cresco, Iowa
Creston Auto Parts, Creston, Iowa
City Auto Parts, Denison, Iowa
Batteries Patrol Incorporated, Des Moines, Iowa
Johnston Distributing, Des Moines, Iowa
Johnston Distributing - Big A, Des Moines, Iowa
Big A Auto Parts (Store B), Des Mooines, Iowa
Auto Mate of Forest City, Forest City, Iowa
Anderson Auto Parts, Glenwood, Iowa
Town and Country Parts, Guthrie Center, Iowa
Hawkeye Auto Parts, Harlan, Iowa
Interstate Batteries - Upper Iowa, Huxley, Iowa
Johnston Distributing Co., Johnston, Iowa
The Parts Stop, Kalona, Iowa
Wagner Auto Supply, Lemars, Iowa
Logan Auto Supply, Logan, Iowa
Collins Motor Supply, Mapleton, Iowa
Motor Parts Sales, Marcus, Iowa
Morgan's Auto Parts, Muscatine, Iowa
Schnack Auto Parts #2, Oakland, Iowa
Smith Auto Supply, Onawa, Iowa
Action Auto Supply, Orange City, Iowa
Bob's Auto Supply, Osceola, Iowa
K L Parts Inc., Pleasantville, Iowa
Red Oak Auto and Machine, Red Oak, Iowa
Jerry's Auto Parts, Rock Valley, Iowa
Iowa Automotive, Sac City, Iowa
Genuine Parts Co., Shenandoah, Iowa
Arrow Speed Warehouse - Sioux City, Sioux City, Iowa
Interstate Batteries - Sioux City, Sioux City, Iowa
G&G Auto Parts, Vinton, Iowa
Douglas Battery of Iowa, Waterloo, Iowa
Quality Auto, Webster City, Iowa
West Union Motor Supply, West Union, Iowa
Madison Auto Supply, Winterset, Iowa

I found a post from Mohler on the subject.

- --Flash!
dschilberg@pobox.com

3Si #577
1995 Black VR-4 w/ Big Reds, rollbar, harnesses, and a custom spark plug
plate
http://www.team3s.com/FAQrollbar.htm

- -----Original Message-----
From: Mohler, Jeff [mailto:jeff.mohler@netapp.com]
Sent: Tuesday, January 02, 2001 3:47 PM
Subject: RE: Battery for racing

Optima yellow-top battery.  Wont leak, no acid, and can be run DRY hundreds
of times with no plate degridation.

Theres some photos of what I have right here:
http://www.speedtoys.com/~gemohler/jeep/install/

I have the same in the VR4, and my other cars.

- -----Original Message-----
From: Schilberg, Darren [mailto:DSchilberg@freemarkets.com]
Sent: Wednesday, December 27, 2000 8:14 PM

Is there a good battery to use for road racing and street driving?  A friend
suggested anything not acid-filled.  Something like a gel cell.  Any ideas
on which ones are good and where to get one?

- -----Original Message-----
From: Merritt [mailto:merritt@cedar-rapids.net]
Sent: Monday, March 26, 2001 12:17 PM

The OEM battery in my 94 VR4 finally died this winter. It won't hold a
charge any longer.

Curt Gendron wants me install a half-size battery (from Walmart), so we'll
have room for the water injection tank that will be going in one of these
days. I'll probably do that unless I can find a way to mount a battery in
the back.

My question to the group is:
Has anyone successfully mounted a battery in the rear? Is there any short
battery that can fit back there in the plastic trays on either side of the
spare tire and still fit under the cardboard/carpet cover? Got a product
name and model number?

I suppose I could mount the battery on the floor behind the passenger seat,
but that restricts movement of the seat.

Any thoughts, anyone?

Rich/old poop/94 VR4

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Date: Mon, 26 Mar 2001 16:51:29 -0800 (PST)
From: Geoff Mohler <gemohler@speedracer.speedtoys.com>
Subject: Re: Team3S: Battery and GT PRO Carbon Fiber Hood

yes, I was on the phone with him last week..he mentioed in some detail the
problem.

And yes..im glad it is resolved, and the problem "went away".

On Mon, 26 Mar 2001, nwlink wrote:

> Darren and all,
>
> When u get the Odysessy (Predator) battery, be sure to also get a trickle
> charger from a local auto store. Unless you start the car every other day,
> the battery will die. This happens more frequently when the weather is cold
> out. Trickle charger costs only $25.
>
> Regarding Brian's CF hood, I am sure all of you who ordered know that there
> was a slight hiccup. Anyway, I am speaking on behalf of Brian and would like
> the state that there was an internal problem and it has now been resolved.
> The hood should be ready soon.
>
> Enjoy!
>
> Julian Huang
> 94 Mitsubishi Veilside Tein TEC GTO tt
> 01 Tweety Yellow Toyota Altezza
> Team 3S
> Seattle, Washington
> vlsgto@nwlink.com
> "Caution: You are about to enter a NO SPIN ZONE!"
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-team3s@stealth-3000gt.st
> [mailto:owner-team3s@stealth-3000gt.st]On Behalf Of Schilberg, Darren
> Sent: Monday, March 26, 2001 11:36 AM
> To: 'Merritt'; Team3S@stealth-3000gt.st
> Subject: RE: Team3S: Need a battery
>
>
> Rich,
>
> I will be installing an Optima Red Top battery soon.  I hear those are
> smaller since the stock battery tie-down cable does not reach the smaller
> battery.  It isn't half-size but it is smaller.  I would vote for the
> "racing" battery (ones without the acid sloshing around and can be mounted
> in any orientation - even upside down) since it is safer in the long run.
>
> The Optima Red Top (they also have yellow top ones) have enough oomph for
> several years of use.  I did a search and here are the places in Iowa for
> you (might want to search the neighboring states too) or just order and have
> it shipped.
>
> http://www.optimabatteries.com/main.htm
> - Optima Red Top Battery: 800S or 800U (not recommended for deep cycles)
> - Part number 8002-002
> - 800 CCA
> - 38 pounds
>
> - Optima Yellow Top Battery: 750S (recommended for deep cycles)
> - Part number 8012-021
> - 750 CCA
> - 43 pounds
>
> Linch Auto Parts, Adel, Iowa
> Arsen Auto Parts, Algona, Iowa
> Interstate Batteries - Des Moines, Altoona, Iowa
> Johnston Distributing - Big A, Ames, Iowa
> Bedford Auto Supply, Bedford, Iowa
> Iowa Auto and Machine, Carroll, Iowa
> Batteries Plus, Cedar Rapids, Iowa
> Chapman Auto Supply Center, Cedar Rapids, Iowa
> Chapman Auto Supply S.E., Cedar Rapids, Iowa
> Johnston Distributing - Big A, Centerville, Iowa
> Brown's Auto Supply, Clarinda, Iowa
> Cresco Machine Company, Cresco, Iowa
> Creston Auto Parts, Creston, Iowa
> City Auto Parts, Denison, Iowa
> Batteries Patrol Incorporated, Des Moines, Iowa
> Johnston Distributing, Des Moines, Iowa
> Johnston Distributing - Big A, Des Moines, Iowa
> Big A Auto Parts (Store B), Des Mooines, Iowa
> Auto Mate of Forest City, Forest City, Iowa
> Anderson Auto Parts, Glenwood, Iowa
> Town and Country Parts, Guthrie Center, Iowa
> Hawkeye Auto Parts, Harlan, Iowa
> Interstate Batteries - Upper Iowa, Huxley, Iowa
> Johnston Distributing Co., Johnston, Iowa
> The Parts Stop, Kalona, Iowa
> Wagner Auto Supply, Lemars, Iowa
> Logan Auto Supply, Logan, Iowa
> Collins Motor Supply, Mapleton, Iowa
> Motor Parts Sales, Marcus, Iowa
> Morgan's Auto Parts, Muscatine, Iowa
> Schnack Auto Parts #2, Oakland, Iowa
> Smith Auto Supply, Onawa, Iowa
> Action Auto Supply, Orange City, Iowa
> Bob's Auto Supply, Osceola, Iowa
> K L Parts Inc., Pleasantville, Iowa
> Red Oak Auto and Machine, Red Oak, Iowa
> Jerry's Auto Parts, Rock Valley, Iowa
> Iowa Automotive, Sac City, Iowa
> Genuine Parts Co., Shenandoah, Iowa
> Arrow Speed Warehouse - Sioux City, Sioux City, Iowa
> Interstate Batteries - Sioux City, Sioux City, Iowa
> G&G Auto Parts, Vinton, Iowa
> Douglas Battery of Iowa, Waterloo, Iowa
> Quality Auto, Webster City, Iowa
> West Union Motor Supply, West Union, Iowa
> Madison Auto Supply, Winterset, Iowa
>
> I found a post from Mohler on the subject.
>
> --Flash!
> dschilberg@pobox.com
>
> 3Si #577
> 1995 Black VR-4 w/ Big Reds, rollbar, harnesses, and a custom spark plug
> plate
> http://www.team3s.com/FAQrollbar.htm
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Mohler, Jeff [mailto:jeff.mohler@netapp.com]
> Sent: Tuesday, January 02, 2001 3:47 PM
> Subject: RE: Battery for racing
>
> Optima yellow-top battery.  Wont leak, no acid, and can be run DRY hundreds
> of times with no plate degridation.
>
> Theres some photos of what I have right here:
> http://www.speedtoys.com/~gemohler/jeep/install/
>
> I have the same in the VR4, and my other cars.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Schilberg, Darren [mailto:DSchilberg@freemarkets.com]
> Sent: Wednesday, December 27, 2000 8:14 PM
>
> Is there a good battery to use for road racing and street driving?  A friend
> suggested anything not acid-filled.  Something like a gel cell.  Any ideas
> on which ones are good and where to get one?
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Merritt [mailto:merritt@cedar-rapids.net]
> Sent: Monday, March 26, 2001 12:17 PM
>
> The OEM battery in my 94 VR4 finally died this winter. It won't hold a
> charge any longer.
>
> Curt Gendron wants me install a half-size battery (from Walmart), so we'll
> have room for the water injection tank that will be going in one of these
> days. I'll probably do that unless I can find a way to mount a battery in
> the back.
>
> My question to the group is:
> Has anyone successfully mounted a battery in the rear? Is there any short
> battery that can fit back there in the plastic trays on either side of the
> spare tire and still fit under the cardboard/carpet cover? Got a product
> name and model number?
>
> I suppose I could mount the battery on the floor behind the passenger seat,
> but that restricts movement of the seat.
>
> Any thoughts, anyone?
>
> Rich/old poop/94 VR4
>
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- ---
Geoff Mohler <gemohler@speedtoys.com
California, USA

I own a lotta cars.  But in the best interests of not having to continualy
edit this file to meet the needs of eight specific lists, and no to awaken the
idiots within others who think -thier- cars are the best and Im a fool for
having anything -but- thier kind of car..I have not listed them.  If Im on
the list you are reading..I have one.


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Date: Mon, 26 Mar 2001 23:17:28 -0600
From: "Jannusch, Matt" <mjannusch@marketwatch.com>
Subject: RE: Team3S: Battery and GT PRO Carbon Fiber Hood

> When u get the Odysessy (Predator) battery, be sure to also
> get a trickle charger from a local auto store. Unless you
> start the car every other day, the battery will die.

Haven't had any problems like that with my Odyssey battery.  Starts every
time, even if left sitting for a few weeks even with alarm on and such.
Maybe your battery is defective, or something on your car is drawing extra
juice.  ???

- -Matt
'95 3000GT Spyder VR4

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