team3s             Wednesday, May 31 2000             Volume 01 : Number 154




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Date: Wed, 31 May 2000 08:47:48 +0200
From: "R.G." <robby@freesurf.ch>
Subject: Re: Team3S: Porting Heads

M;y heads have been done by a BMW and Audi expert who did the Alpina BMW
Turbos and RS2 Audi Porsches. He found sever edges that could be removed and
the especially the exhaust side was restrictive at the outlet port. When
removing the heads one can see the carbon where the gasket is too large.
Even more the exhaust manifold port are smaller (!!!) than the heads outlet
ports and causes another turbulence and backpressure that is not wanted. He
worked a lot on the exhaust side and made them perfect (not that shiny) to
the gasket size. I reworked the exhaust manifolds so they have no
restrictions from the cast as well as the port flange is now on 30-45° angle
for less resistance and good increase in velocity.

BTW, when working on the outlet, the guy showed me the valve guide that was
very short for an exhaust side. With having the outlet ported, the valvce
stems are more exposed to the heat and a longer valve guide would have been
nice. Additionally the manual speaks of a tolerance between ex valve stem
and valve guide of 0.15mm !!! This is definitely too much and on mine we
measured 0.12mm with the new valves. I therefore decided to let him made new
valve guides for the exhaust and we got about 0.04mm.As said, work was
perfect and tomorrow the heads will go in :-)

Roger
93'3000GT TT


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Date: Wed, 31 May 2000 00:25:20 -0700
From: "Barry E. King" <beking@home.com>
Subject: RE: Team3S: Porting Heads

Part of the reason for the "loose" tolerance is the fact that the material
expands a LOT with the extremes of heat.  I hope that 0.04mm (which is VERY
tight BTW) is not too little to account for the expansion of the head, the
guide and the valve stem.

I have seen valves sieze or wear prematurely with high tolerances than that.
If too tight but still working it can rob HP or worse, be too slow to close
and make contact with a piston crown.


Barry

> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-team3s@stealth-3000gt.st
> [mailto:owner-team3s@stealth-3000gt.st]On Behalf Of R.G.
> Sent: Tuesday, May 30, 2000 11:48 PM
> To: 3000GT News Group
> Subject: Re: Team3S: Porting Heads
>
>
> M;y heads have been done by a BMW and Audi expert who did the Alpina BMW
> Turbos and RS2 Audi Porsches. He found sever edges that could be
> removed and
> the especially the exhaust side was restrictive at the outlet port. When
> removing the heads one can see the carbon where the gasket is too large.
> Even more the exhaust manifold port are smaller (!!!) than the
> heads outlet
> ports and causes another turbulence and backpressure that is not
> wanted. He
> worked a lot on the exhaust side and made them perfect (not that shiny) to
> the gasket size. I reworked the exhaust manifolds so they have no
> restrictions from the cast as well as the port flange is now on
> 30-45° angle
> for less resistance and good increase in velocity.
>
> BTW, when working on the outlet, the guy showed me the valve
> guide that was
> very short for an exhaust side. With having the outlet ported, the valvce
> stems are more exposed to the heat and a longer valve guide would
> have been
> nice. Additionally the manual speaks of a tolerance between ex valve stem
> and valve guide of 0.15mm !!! This is definitely too much and on mine we
> measured 0.12mm with the new valves. I therefore decided to let
> him made new
> valve guides for the exhaust and we got about 0.04mm.As said, work was
> perfect and tomorrow the heads will go in :-)
>
> Roger
> 93'3000GT TT
>
>
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Date: Wed, 31 May 2000 11:07:10 +0200
From: lehir@genesiscom.ch (Genesiscon Lehir)
Subject: RE: Team3S: Apexi avc-r

Yo

>>I need help with my AVC-R. I cant get it set up right. Why don't the RPM's
>>read the same numbers as my tach i.e. 3000 rpm's reads 500.

Because......you PROBABLY hooked the "purple" vire to the INJECTOR ECU wire,
but choose 6 Cylinder car
(as if you were running the Purple on the RPM wire).

In that case, you're supposed to have a "1" cylinder engine

The fact that 6x500 = 3000 is a big clue

>> I just don't get it.

Tell me how it's installed, would help

>> I have not been able to get it to "learn" anything.

According to the manual, the unit is NOT learning really well when hooked to
the INJECTOR signal

>> Can someone please  explain some of it's functions the manual is no help.

Agree.....my 300ZXTT fellows definitely helped me on this one.

>> What does F/B do

Feedback....preventing overboosting in higher hears (rings a bell ???)

>>start duty do.

Start with a high number, like 75% (hey, be warned, I have NO experience of
this stuff on the 3S

>> Can any one offer me any good setup programs that are working good  for
them.

Sorry, I cannot


>>My car does fine in first gear it boosts to 1.0kg/cm2 but in second
>>gear it jumps to 1.13 kg/cm2 and in third it goes to 1.18 kg/cm2. I can
get
>>stable boost it keeps over boosting.


Yup, that's what the Feedback is for..and....have you entered the values in
the "gear judge" as well ???


Henri


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Date: Wed, 31 May 2000 10:18:02 +0100
From: Gordon Tyrrell <gordon.tyrrell@openet-int.com>
Subject: Team3S: Warning light - what is it please?

I was giving the car some stick on hard setting into a bend today when I
noticed a warning light flash. It only did it on hard acceleration
through bends and only briefly.

I assumed it was the radiator light but there seems to be enough coolant
and there also seems to be another warning light that looks more like a
radiator light. My manual is in Japanese so I have no idea what it is.

I will give a list of the lights in case it's different on non-japanese
models.
On the left from the top:
door open
oil light
check engine
Tour/Sport

On the right from the top:
seat belt
The light in question
SRS
The other radiator looking light.

If anyone could let me know what if is I'd be grateful and if it's not
the radiator light then please let me know where to fill the offending
liquid.

Thanks in advance
Gordon
Dublin, Ireland
1993 Japanese Import VR4
http://fly.to/mr2.ie



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Date: Wed, 31 May 2000 10:22:39 +0100
From: Gordon Tyrrell <gordon.tyrrell@openet-int.com>
Subject: Team3S: Turning down the Boost

It turns out that my intermittent power loss on hard acceleration is due
to the fact that the boost in the car is turned up to 1bar (14.5psi) and
the fuel is not adjusted to match (I think it was and the adjustment
tool was removed before export) so the car is cutting fuel for a second
to compensate.

My question is this: How the hell do I turn down the boost or up the
fuel? (preferably down the boost).

I have no idea how he's increased it although there is an HKS boost
gauge int he car and a small HKS device at the rear of the engin
compartment which I thought was just to feed the gauge. Where should I
look in this car for the most obvious increase place?

My MR2 was just sooooo much easier to figure out :-)
This thing just has too much engine in there.

Thanks
Gordon
Dublin, Ireland
1993 Japanese Import VR4
http://fly.to/mr2.ie



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Date: Wed, 31 May 2000 11:39:00 +0200
From: "R.G." <robby@freesurf.ch>
Subject: Re: Team3S: Warning light - what is it please?

Gordon, the radiator light is combined with the washer fluid tank. Depending
o nthe region you goit the car from it also has a front tank for the
headlight washers and a rear tank. All sensors are connected to the same
signal. One of them is on a lower fluid level :)

Roger
93'3000GT

> I assumed it was the radiator light but there seems to be enough coolant
> and there also seems to be another warning light that looks more like a
> radiator light. My manual is in Japanese so I have no idea what it is.



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Date: Wed, 31 May 2000 11:55:15 +0200
From: "R.G." <robby@freesurf.ch>
Subject: Re: Team3S: Turning down the Boost

Well, this is really the first time I hear such an opposite wuestion :))

> It turns out that my intermittent power loss on hard acceleration is due
> to the fact that the boost in the car is turned up to 1bar (14.5psi) and
> the fuel is not adjusted to match (I think it was and the adjustment
> tool was removed before export) so the car is cutting fuel for a second
> to compensate.

If you REALLY are experiencing fuel cut at 1 bar then you do have another
problem for sure ! And fuel cut in our cars mean that there is an invisible
passenger that draws the handbrake and your head is almost slamming onto the
wheel !!! I'm not sure if this is fuel cut what you get. If so, you have to
check other things for sure !

> My question is this: How the hell do I turn down the boost or up the
> fuel? (preferably down the boost).

Nothing easier than this :) Look below :

> I have no idea how he's increased it although there is an HKS boost
> gauge int he car and a small HKS device at the rear of the engin
> compartment which I thought was just to feed the gauge. Where should I
> look in this car for the most obvious increase place?

Well it is possible that you have an electronic boost meter but I can't
remember the HKS is such a unit.

> My MR2 was just sooooo much easier to figure out :-)
> This thing just has too much engine in there.

Oh yes, but working on an MR2 is even less funny or do you cut the rear
fender to get to the engine, LOL.

Ok, for turning boost down firstly go to my homepage and check out the
"Turbo basics" page. It shows you the way our system works and where the
things like boost gauge, boost controller or bleeder valve are installed.
Then, on your car, locate the black y-pipe ellbow that leads into the TB. At
the ellbow is a hose connected. This hose must lead directly to a 4-way
connector close the intake of the rear turbo. One hose at this connector
then leads up to the most right solenoid. The other nipple of this solenoid
msut lead to the rubber intake before the rear turbo. Another hose at the
connector leads directly to the rear wastegate actuator and the last line
goes to the hardline at the rear head that finally leads to the front
wastegate actuator. Anything in this path that is not described has been
installed later and should be removed to make the car stock.

The bosot gauge should be hooked up at the intake plenum after the TB. There
are two hoses commign out, at the rear for the fuel pressure solenoid and at
the front for the bypass valve. You can T into one of these lines.

I like to stress this again, if yo umeasure 1 bar of boost i nthe intake and
you are experiencing fuel cut then there is too much pinging in your car and
I'd say to inspect a lot different things like compression, ignition wires,
fuel filter, etc.

Hope this helps
Roger
93'3000GT TT
Switzerland


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Date: Wed, 31 May 2000 06:33:36 EDT
From: Aso8@aol.com
Subject: Team3S: HKS Super Mega Flow 4  Sale

I'm selling my "Top of the Line" HKS Duel Super Mega Flow Intake.
Mine has been Fully Chromed (an expensive option) and I have both
(2) Brand New Green Mushroom Intakes for it still in the package.
Like new - $235.00 with shipping.
Please, Email me direct at   aso8@aol.com
Arty 91 VR-4

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Date: Wed, 31 May 2000 08:22:13 -0400
From: "Scotty" <omnitech@fast.net>
Subject: Re: Team3S: Warning light - what is it please?

Sounds like you window washer fluid level light.

I had the same thing happen.

Scotty
92 RT TT
- ----- Original Message -----
From: "Gordon Tyrrell" <gordon.tyrrell@openet-int.com>
To: "3000gt" <team3s@stealth-3000gt.st>
Sent: Wednesday, May 31, 2000 5:18 AM
Subject: Team3S: Warning light - what is it please?


> I was giving the car some stick on hard setting into a bend today when I
> noticed a warning light flash. It only did it on hard acceleration
> through bends and only briefly.
>
> I assumed it was the radiator light but there seems to be enough coolant
> and there also seems to be another warning light that looks more like a
> radiator light. My manual is in Japanese so I have no idea what it is.
>
> I will give a list of the lights in case it's different on non-japanese
> models.
> On the left from the top:
> door open
> oil light
> check engine
> Tour/Sport
>
> On the right from the top:
> seat belt
> The light in question
> SRS
> The other radiator looking light.
>
> If anyone could let me know what if is I'd be grateful and if it's not
> the radiator light then please let me know where to fill the offending
> liquid.
>
> Thanks in advance
> Gordon
> Dublin, Ireland
> 1993 Japanese Import VR4
> http://fly.to/mr2.ie
>
>
>
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Date: Wed, 31 May 2000 05:50:34 -0700 (PDT)
From: Matt Wise <diranged@south-park.cc>
Subject: Team3S: Flowmaster on a TT...

In my 93 VR-4, its active exhaust has been stuck in the shut position
since I bought the car. Also, the car has only been able to get .5bar of
boost no matter what you do (even disconnecting the selanoids). Through my
research and desperate searching to answer this question, I have concluded
that the closure of the exhaust must be limiting the boost level because
the turbo cant spool up enough. I was about to order a Borla exhaust when
a friend of mine who works at a muffler shop said he could do a custom
exhaust for much cheaper. Here's what he offered: a custom TP that fits
where the cat is so I can pass smog then put the TP in, full 3" pipe from
the TP back to a flowmaster muffler that has the exact same style that our
stock mufflers are.. It has an outlet on both sides. Then a 2.5" pipe from
the back of the muffler to dual dips. The tips are $85 for each set and
look an AWFULL lot like stock borla tips (not their round ones, but the
square ones they have). He offered all of this to me for $200, so I took
the deal. My question is, other than being obscenely loud (which I will be
trying to correct with a high flow cat instead of a TP), should this solve
my boost problem?

Also, how much does a TP help on a car thats basically stock?

Thanks


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Date: Wed, 31 May 2000 09:22:10 EDT
From: Aso8@aol.com
Subject: Team3S: Re: Flowmaster on a TT...

Matt, you'll be surprised how mellow our cars sound without ANY mufflers at
all.
Our turbos muffle the sound so well that with no mufflers - its not even as
loud as a Mustang with a flowmaster.
Arty 91 VR-4

<< Subj:     Flowmaster on a TT...
 Date:  5/31/00 5:45:03 AM Pacific Daylight Time
 From:  diranged@south-park.cc (Matt Wise)
 Reply-to:  stealth@starnet.net
 To:    team3s@stealth-3000gt.st, stealth@stls.verio.net
 
 Here's what he offered: a custom TP that fits
 where the cat is so I can pass smog then put the TP in, full 3" pipe from
 the TP back to a flowmaster muffler that has the exact same style that our
 stock mufflers are.. It has an outlet on both sides. Then a 2.5" pipe from
 the back of the muffler to dual dips. The tips are $85 for each set and
 look an AWFULL lot like stock borla tips (not their round ones, but the
 square ones they have). He offered all of this to me for $200, so I took
 the deal. My question is, other than being obscenely loud
  >>

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Date: Wed, 31 May 2000 06:37:30 -0700 (PDT)
From: Matt Wise <diranged@south-park.cc>
Subject: Re: Team3S: Re: Flowmaster on a TT...

Really? Cool.. I want it to sound NICE, not super loud. Thats promising
news.. How about without cats.. are they as loud as eclipse's w/o cats?

On Wed, 31 May 2000 Aso8@aol.com wrote:

> Matt, you'll be surprised how mellow our cars sound without ANY mufflers at
> all.
> Our turbos muffle the sound so well that with no mufflers - its not even as
> loud as a Mustang with a flowmaster.
> Arty 91 VR-4
>
> << Subj:     Flowmaster on a TT...
>  Date:  5/31/00 5:45:03 AM Pacific Daylight Time
>  From:  diranged@south-park.cc (Matt Wise)
>  Reply-to:  stealth@starnet.net
>  To:    team3s@stealth-3000gt.st, stealth@stls.verio.net

>  Here's what he offered: a custom TP that fits
>  where the cat is so I can pass smog then put the TP in, full 3" pipe from
>  the TP back to a flowmaster muffler that has the exact same style that our
>  stock mufflers are.. It has an outlet on both sides. Then a 2.5" pipe from
>  the back of the muffler to dual dips. The tips are $85 for each set and
>  look an AWFULL lot like stock borla tips (not their round ones, but the
>  square ones they have). He offered all of this to me for $200, so I took
>  the deal. My question is, other than being obscenely loud
>   >>
>
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Date: Wed, 31 May 2000 09:07:54 CDT
From: "Curt Gendron" <curt_gendron@hotmail.com>
Subject: Re: Team3S: Warning light - what is it please?

Go to:
http://www.geocities.com/SiliconValley/8443/Images_Gto_Man_dash.gif

This will show you what each of the lights mean.  The two most common lights
for fluid are the radiator and windshield washer fluid.  Many people get the
lights mixed up.  The radiator light is very sensitive, so make sure you
have the radiator tank and overflow tank filled up to specs.

later,
Curt
http://www.mn3s.org



>From: Gordon Tyrrell <gordon.tyrrell@openet-int.com>
>To: 3000gt <team3s@stealth-3000gt.st>
>Subject: Team3S: Warning light - what is it please?
>Date: Wed, 31 May 2000 10:18:02 +0100
>
>I was giving the car some stick on hard setting into a bend today when I
>noticed a warning light flash. It only did it on hard acceleration
>through bends and only briefly.
>
>I assumed it was the radiator light but there seems to be enough coolant
>and there also seems to be another warning light that looks more like a
>radiator light. My manual is in Japanese so I have no idea what it is.
>
>I will give a list of the lights in case it's different on non-japanese
>models.
>On the left from the top:
>door open
>oil light
>check engine
>Tour/Sport
>
>On the right from the top:
>seat belt
>The light in question
>SRS
>The other radiator looking light.
>
>If anyone could let me know what if is I'd be grateful and if it's not
>the radiator light then please let me know where to fill the offending
>liquid.
>
>Thanks in advance
>Gordon
>Dublin, Ireland
>1993 Japanese Import VR4
>http://fly.to/mr2.ie
>
>
>
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Date: Wed, 31 May 2000 10:13:40 EDT
From: Klusmanp@aol.com
Subject: Team3S: Does Kansas have emissions testing?

Moving to Kansas in a few weeks. Anybody know if I'll have to start worrying
about emissions on my '91 VR4?

Thanks,

Paul Klusman

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Date: Wed, 31 May 2000 10:13:44 EDT
From: Klusmanp@aol.com
Subject: Team3S: Bad throw-out bearing on clutch?

Anybody know if the shaft that the throw-out bearing rides on is replaceable,
or is this a permanent part of the transmission? (I believe it is called the
nose piece?) I suspect mine might have a grove worn by a bad throw-out
bearing.

Thanks,

Paul Klusman

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Date: Wed, 31 May 2000 09:28:34 -0500
From: Merritt <merritt@cedar-rapids.net>
Subject: Re: Team3S: Does Kansas have emissions testing?

At 10:13 AM 5/31/00 EDT, Klusmanp@aol.com wrote:
>Moving to Kansas in a few weeks. Anybody know if I'll have to start worrying
>about emissions on my '91 VR4?

Dunno. But we have some great open track events in Topeka at Heartland
Park, if you are into that sort of stuff.

Rich/old poop/94 VR4
.


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Date: Wed, 31 May 2000 09:34:38 -0500
From: Trevor James <trevor@kscable.com>
Subject: Re: Team3S: Does Kansas have emissions testing?

Just an initial visual inspection on out of state vehicles and that's it. No
annuals or emissions inspections.

Trevor
96 R/T TT W/No cats
92 GMC Typhoon

Klusmanp@aol.com wrote:

> Moving to Kansas in a few weeks. Anybody know if I'll have to start worrying
> about emissions on my '91 VR4?
>
> Thanks,
>
> Paul Klusman
>
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Date: Wed, 31 May 2000 16:57:42 +0200
From: "R.G." <robby@freesurf.ch>
Subject: Re: Team3S: Flowmaster on a TT...

> He offered all of this to me for $200, so I took
> the deal. My question is, other than being obscenely loud (which I will be
> trying to correct with a high flow cat instead of a TP), should this solve
> my boost problem?

No, I doubt that this solves any boost problems especially because your
pre-cats are still in place (I guess so) and the downpipe is also not
replaced by a better design (stock is stupid). For loudness, no it really
isn't that load but with a too small muffler the exhaust starts to resonate
between 2300 and 2900 and becomes anyoing under load in this range. This is
the bad point with the Borla and I'm now looking for any change i nthe
system that may help. One note, I doubt that you will get T304 stainless
steel quality with the custom exhaust.

> Also, how much does a TP help on a car thats basically stock?

Hmm, this depends but I'd say nothing. We tested three cars on the dyno with
different setups and at 1 bar max boost the stock exhaust had the best
results !! Even my latest dyno was with the stock dp, all cats and stock
exhaust and I got around 420hp at 16 psi. The most you will gain is weight,
as the stock system is very heavy. With the Borla my car looks like an SUV
at the moment, LOL !

Roger
93'3000GT TT



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Date: Wed, 31 May 2000 08:08:58 -0700 (PDT)
From: Matt Wise <diranged@south-park.cc>
Subject: Team3S: Was "flowmaster on a tt" , NOW: Low boost ?

Thanks for the info.. Ok so then this still leaves the question, why do I
have such low boost. WHen I installed the MBC (yes a crappy walmart one, i
was just testing) it was WILD.. it jumped my boost ALL OVER the
place... Could it be my selanoids? Or maybe I havea misrouted hose or a
leak on an IC pipe? anything sound good?

On Wed, 31 May 2000, R.G. wrote:

> > He offered all of this to me for $200, so I took
> > the deal. My question is, other than being obscenely loud (which I will be
> > trying to correct with a high flow cat instead of a TP), should this solve
> > my boost problem?
>
> No, I doubt that this solves any boost problems especially because your
> pre-cats are still in place (I guess so) and the downpipe is also not
> replaced by a better design (stock is stupid). For loudness, no it really
> isn't that load but with a too small muffler the exhaust starts to resonate
> between 2300 and 2900 and becomes anyoing under load in this range. This is
> the bad point with the Borla and I'm now looking for any change i nthe
> system that may help. One note, I doubt that you will get T304 stainless
> steel quality with the custom exhaust.
>
> > Also, how much does a TP help on a car thats basically stock?
>
> Hmm, this depends but I'd say nothing. We tested three cars on the dyno with
> different setups and at 1 bar max boost the stock exhaust had the best
> results !! Even my latest dyno was with the stock dp, all cats and stock
> exhaust and I got around 420hp at 16 psi. The most you will gain is weight,
> as the stock system is very heavy. With the Borla my car looks like an SUV
> at the moment, LOL !
>
> Roger
> 93'3000GT TT
>
>
>
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Date: Wed, 31 May 2000 17:31:21 +0200
From: "R.G." <robby@freesurf.ch>
Subject: Re: Team3S: Was "flowmaster on a tt" , NOW: Low boost ?

> have such low boost. WHen I installed the MBC (yes a crappy walmart one, i
> was just testing) it was WILD.. it jumped my boost ALL OVER the
> place...

Have you probably something damaged. Saying ALL OVER the place do you mean
above 1.2 bars or 17-18psi ?? If so then you must also think of defective
internals.

> Could it be my selanoids?

I can't remember what solenoids. Blitz I guess, right ?

> Or maybe I havea misrouted hose or a
> leak on an IC pipe? anything sound good?

Everything is possible from stuck open wastegates, misrouted hoses, leaks on
IC, clogged pre-cats, cracked pistons, cracked rings, cocked up valve seats,
etc. You should eliminate the possible causes step by step and I'd start to
remove the controlelr solenoids and putting the stock pipes in place.

Good luck
Roger
93'3000GT TT


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Date: Wed, 31 May 2000 08:43:30 -0700 (PDT)
From: Matt Wise <diranged@south-park.cc>
Subject: Re: Team3S: Was "flowmaster on a tt" , NOW: Low boost ?

It never went over 1bar...

>
> Have you probably something damaged. Saying ALL OVER the place do you mean
> above 1.2 bars or 17-18psi ?? If so then you must also think of defective
> internals.
>
> > Could it be my selanoids?

I haev no boost controller right now. I meant the stock selanoid that
controlls the boost..

>
> I can't remember what solenoids. Blitz I guess, right ?
>
> > Or maybe I havea misrouted hose or a
> > leak on an IC pipe? anything sound good?
>
> Everything is possible from stuck open wastegates, misrouted hoses, leaks on
> IC, clogged pre-cats, cracked pistons, cracked rings, cocked up valve seats,
> etc. You should eliminate the possible causes step by step and I'd start to
> remove the controlelr solenoids and putting the stock pipes in place.
>

Way to make me nervous! hehe. I doubt its anything TOO major because ive
driven it 20,000 miles like this.. w.o ANY problems..

> Good luck
> Roger
> 93'3000GT TT
>
>
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Date: Wed, 31 May 2000 08:38:58 -0700 (PDT)
From: Jeff Lucius <stealthman92@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: Team3S: Flowmaster on a TT...

Hi Matt,

The stock wastegates (on the 15Gs and 9Bs) are designed to open
around 0.4 bar (5-7 psi range). Unless your exhaust has been damaged
and presents a severe restriction, I highly doubt that it is limiting
you boost. If your car has the stock boost control solenoid on it,
then 0.5 bar is actually pretty good. Since you have a boost number I
assume you have an aftermarket gauge or boost controller? The stock
gauge shows make believe numbers.

Go ahead and replace your exhaust but your boost level problems lie
elsewhere. We'll need more info to help you out. Mods done to car for
starters.

- -----------
Jeff Lucius, 3SI #476
Red 1992 Stealth TT - modified
  --> http://www.3si.org/member-home/jlucius/
The new 3/S Backup CD Homepage
  --> http://www.manualcd.com/

- ----- Original Message -----
From: "Matt Wise" <diranged@south-park.cc>
To: <team3s@stealth-3000gt.st>; <stealth@starnet.net>
Sent: Wednesday, May 31, 2000 6:50 AM
Subject: Team3S: Flowmaster on a TT...

In my 93 VR-4, its active exhaust has been stuck in the shut position
since I bought the car. Also, the car has only been able to get .5bar
of boost no matter what you do (even disconnecting the selanoids).
Through my research and desperate searching to answer this question,
I have concluded that the closure of the exhaust must be limiting the
boost level because the turbo cant spool up enough.

<snip>

Thanks


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Date: Wed, 31 May 2000 08:49:30 -0700 (PDT)
From: Matt Wise <diranged@south-park.cc>
Subject: Re: Team3S: Flowmaster on a TT...

Interesting.. I have a Blitz Dual Turbo timer.. which is a digital boost
guage and turbo timer. When I put it into each gear and floor it, the max
boost I hit is about .45-.48 bar. I know the car has the stock boost
selanoid too.. Is it possible that the boost controller is actually only
measuring boost for one turbo somehow? Maybe i misplaced the line? (I
doubt it, it seemed pretty easy), but possible.. Because even with this
low boost, Ive raced Camero SS's and only lost by 1-2 car lengths.. which
leads me to believe I have the right amount of power..

On Wed, 31 May 2000, Jeff Lucius wrote:

> Hi Matt,
>
> The stock wastegates (on the 15Gs and 9Bs) are designed to open
> around 0.4 bar (5-7 psi range). Unless your exhaust has been damaged
> and presents a severe restriction, I highly doubt that it is limiting
> you boost. If your car has the stock boost control solenoid on it,
> then 0.5 bar is actually pretty good. Since you have a boost number I
> assume you have an aftermarket gauge or boost controller? The stock
> gauge shows make believe numbers.
>
> Go ahead and replace your exhaust but your boost level problems lie
> elsewhere. We'll need more info to help you out. Mods done to car for
> starters.
>
> -----------
> Jeff Lucius, 3SI #476
> Red 1992 Stealth TT - modified
>   --> http://www.3si.org/member-home/jlucius/
> The new 3/S Backup CD Homepage
>   --> http://www.manualcd.com/
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Matt Wise" <diranged@south-park.cc>
> To: <team3s@stealth-3000gt.st>; <stealth@starnet.net>
> Sent: Wednesday, May 31, 2000 6:50 AM
> Subject: Team3S: Flowmaster on a TT...
>
> In my 93 VR-4, its active exhaust has been stuck in the shut position
> since I bought the car. Also, the car has only been able to get .5bar
> of boost no matter what you do (even disconnecting the selanoids).
> Through my research and desperate searching to answer this question,
> I have concluded that the closure of the exhaust must be limiting the
> boost level because the turbo cant spool up enough.
>
> <snip>
>
> Thanks
>
>
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>
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Date: Wed, 31 May 2000 09:09:43 -0700 (PDT)
From: Matt Wise <diranged@south-park.cc>
Subject: Re: Team3S: Flowmaster on a TT...

I wanted to just thank everybody who has offered their help to me on this
issue. I now have a number of ideas to go on and hopefully will be able to
solve the mysterious missing boost question :)

On Wed, 31 May 2000, Jeff Lucius wrote:

> Hi Matt,
>
> The stock wastegates (on the 15Gs and 9Bs) are designed to open
> around 0.4 bar (5-7 psi range). Unless your exhaust has been damaged
> and presents a severe restriction, I highly doubt that it is limiting
> you boost. If your car has the stock boost control solenoid on it,
> then 0.5 bar is actually pretty good. Since you have a boost number I
> assume you have an aftermarket gauge or boost controller? The stock
> gauge shows make believe numbers.
>
> Go ahead and replace your exhaust but your boost level problems lie
> elsewhere. We'll need more info to help you out. Mods done to car for
> starters.
>
> -----------
> Jeff Lucius, 3SI #476
> Red 1992 Stealth TT - modified
>   --> http://www.3si.org/member-home/jlucius/
> The new 3/S Backup CD Homepage
>   --> http://www.manualcd.com/
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Matt Wise" <diranged@south-park.cc>
> To: <team3s@stealth-3000gt.st>; <stealth@starnet.net>
> Sent: Wednesday, May 31, 2000 6:50 AM
> Subject: Team3S: Flowmaster on a TT...
>
> In my 93 VR-4, its active exhaust has been stuck in the shut position
> since I bought the car. Also, the car has only been able to get .5bar
> of boost no matter what you do (even disconnecting the selanoids).
> Through my research and desperate searching to answer this question,
> I have concluded that the closure of the exhaust must be limiting the
> boost level because the turbo cant spool up enough.
>
> <snip>
>
> Thanks
>
>
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>
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