team3s              Monday, May 22 2000              Volume 01 : Number 144




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Date: Sun, 21 May 2000 16:42:30 +0200
From: "R.G." <robby@freesurf.ch>
Subject: Team3S: Admin Message (informal)

Hey gals, guys or friends (sounds better, hehe).

We're happy with the really low "crap" we have on this list and like to
thank all of you for your great input, messages, tips and tricks and ... fun
;-).

But we also like to remind you all that some stuff like "race me" or
chatting stuff should be kept private as well as some domestic car stuff or
other non 3S are not of much interest (sure you don't want to hear the story
of my Z28. LOL) for anyone on the list. Of course some "emergency calls" or
track run reports are ok and as long as we don't have any excessive response
on off-topic stuff we don't see any problems.

Another note, please change also the topic when the content is different !
For example, I'm not interested in any sway bar and just delete the message
with that topic. But as I checked afterwards I found one post with other,
not really Sway Bar related content. So, please help us lazy readers not to
miss some good information ;-)

Thanks to all and drive safely
Roger for the  admins



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Date: Sun, 21 May 2000 16:15:11 +0200
From: "R.G." <robby@freesurf.ch>
Subject: Re: Team3S: RC Injectors

> About that one unfortunate post regarding a messed up piston... You said
you
> used RC injectors? 2 or 3 of the vendors I have talked to, have told me to
> stay away from the RC injectors, and just get the ND, or some other kind
> (can't remember). The reason was crappy spray pattern, but I don't know
> exactly why.

Well you can get 720 NDs with a flow difference of about 10% ! My RC (Bosch)
have been balanced and came within a 0.1% range including a sheet with the
data. No problems for me :-)) The injectors he got were probably the ones
that have been sold from one to another and again to another guy. I've heard
of such a bad set !

Roger
93'3000GT TT



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Date: Sun, 21 May 2000 16:07:13 +0200
From: "R.G." <robby@freesurf.ch>
Subject: Re: Team3S: Borla re-post

> Borla is a dual system from after the main cat to the exhaust tips.  There
is a muffler on each side of the car, and a single large tip on each of the
two mufflers.

The Borla is not a dual system as it only splits into an y at the rear diff
and then ends into two resonators. With this noise yo ucan't tel lthem
mufflers !

Roger
93'3000GT TT


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Date: Sun, 21 May 2000 16:21:45 +0200
From: "R.G." <robby@freesurf.ch>
Subject: Re: Team3S: ARC-2

> Unfortunetaly I don't have datalogger, and it is very difficult to tune
> ARC-2.

You can't say it's difficult as you haven't done this already (smile) and I
can tell you it's easier than you think. Without the datalogger just follow
the direction in the manual and thats' it :)

> How do you think what "low","mid","high", and "accel" settings are
> best for car with this setup?

Hmmm, I guess you have Rev 2 of the ARC so my settings are not good for you.
Just start with 0,0,0,1 click.

Roger
93'3000GT TT



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Date: Sun, 21 May 2000 16:12:16 +0200
From: "R.G." <robby@freesurf.ch>
Subject: Re: Team3S: You guys/gals ROCK!

Vineet,

Good to hear you solved the problem, but ... was it the turbo or what was
the exact problem now ??

> I ordered all the parts from Conicelli mitsubishi (Josh, he rocks, he also
> has a 3000gt vr4 and Galant vr4, and great prices/service). They got here,
> and started on the imposing task of removing/replacing belts (pulleys were
> screeching), and the front turbo.

Roger
93'3000GT TT


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Date: Sun, 21 May 2000 10:08:53 -0500
From: Matt Jannusch <MAJ@BigCharts.com>
Subject: RE: Team3S: Borla re-post

> The Borla is not a dual system as it only splits into an y at the rear diff
> and then ends into two resonators. With this noise yo ucan't tel lthem
> mufflers !

He had asked if it was a dual "like the stock one", which I took to mean that it has two outputs on the back of the car, one on each side.

As far as I know, there isn't a "real" dual system available unless you want to spend really big bucks to get something that hooks two separate pipes from the pre-cat housings.  Therefore it is "dual" compared to something like the some of the others available, which exit on one side, and is more "dual" than the stock exhaust since the flow is split upstream of the mufflers/resonators/empty-coffee-cans.

:-)

- -Matt
'95 3000GT Spyder VR4

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Date: Sun, 21 May 2000 10:22:28 -0500
From: Trevor James <trevor@kscable.com>
Subject: Re: Team3S: RC Injectors

I got my RC's brand new from Altered Atmosphere...with a flow sheet...

Trev

"R.G." wrote:

> > About that one unfortunate post regarding a messed up piston... You said
> you
> > used RC injectors? 2 or 3 of the vendors I have talked to, have told me to
> > stay away from the RC injectors, and just get the ND, or some other kind
> > (can't remember). The reason was crappy spray pattern, but I don't know
> > exactly why.
>
> Well you can get 720 NDs with a flow difference of about 10% ! My RC (Bosch)
> have been balanced and came within a 0.1% range including a sheet with the
> data. No problems for me :-)) The injectors he got were probably the ones
> that have been sold from one to another and again to another guy. I've heard
> of such a bad set !
>
> Roger
> 93'3000GT TT
>
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Date: Sun, 21 May 2000 18:28:01 -0400
From: Jason Barnhart <phnxgld@erols.com>
Subject: Re: Team3S: Borla re-post

I believe that Bozz Speed offers a true dual exhaust system for our cars.  It's about $1600 and I hear it includes downpipes (2 I guess).  It's a nice idea but I understand that there are some questions regarding it's effectiveness and I've yet to hear of anyone running or testing it.

Jason


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Date: Mon, 22 May 2000 08:31:13 -0500
From: "Oskar" <swede@pclink.com>
Subject: Team3S: For sale: HKS dual tip cat-back exhaust

Hello all,

I'm selling my dual tip HKS cat-back on ebay:
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/aw-cgi/ebayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=335608404

Please e-mail me privately with any questions.

Thanks,
Oskar
'95 R/T TT





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Date: Mon, 22 May 2000 07:43:38 -0700 (PDT)
From: Jeff Lucius <stealthman92@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: Team3S: Gutting pre-cats

Hi John, Congrats on the permission!

1. I didn't notice that gutting the pre-cats made my stock exhaust
system much louder. "Better" is probably a good description. Passing
emmissions here in CO was no problem with only the main cat.

2. I think any forged piston is good insurance. I don't think it is
the mods that stress out our engines, but the detonation that can
happen in a stock or modified engine with bad gas or higher boost
levels. Venolia, Arias, and JE (others?) make pistons for our cars.
And of course there are the stock Mitsu ones. Shops like GT-PRO,
Dynamic Racing, and Accel. Access. could probably give you great
advice for this.

Jeff Lucius, 3SI #476
Red 1992 Stealth TT - modified
  --> http://www.3si.org/member-home/jlucius/

- ----- Original Message -----
From: "John Monnin" <jkmonnin@altavista.com>
To: "3000GT News Group" <team3s-digest@mail.stealth-3000gt.st>
Sent: Sunday, May 21, 2000 8:05 AM
Subject: Team3S: Gutting pre-cats

I finally pulled the engine in my 91 VR4.  I just got the oil pan off
and the rods look good, nothing is too loose.  I pulled the engine
because of rod knocking so I will have to remove the rod and main
bearing caps and plastigage the clearance if I don’t see any obvious
damage.  I will keep list updated on progress.

The great news is that my wife gave me permission to make performance
modifications too the car.   Since the engine is out  it is a great
time to do them.  My questions are:

1. Gutting pre-cats, If I leave the regular Catalytic converter alone
will the exhaust be much louder and I how much power increase can I
expect (w/o other changes).  I wangt to leave the regular Catalytic
converter alone so I could pass an emmissions test if I ever had to.
2. What is a good piston for a engine that will be only mildly
modifed?

John Monnin 1991 VR4
jkmonnin@altavista.com


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