team3s
Wednesday, May 31
2000
Volume 01 : Number
154
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Date:
Wed, 31 May 2000 08:47:48 +0200
From: "R.G." <robby@freesurf.ch>
Subject: Re:
Team3S: Porting Heads
M;y heads have been done by a BMW and Audi expert
who did the Alpina BMW
Turbos and RS2 Audi Porsches. He found sever edges
that could be removed and
the especially the exhaust side was restrictive at
the outlet port. When
removing the heads one can see the carbon where the
gasket is too large.
Even more the exhaust manifold port are smaller (!!!)
than the heads outlet
ports and causes another turbulence and backpressure
that is not wanted. He
worked a lot on the exhaust side and made them perfect
(not that shiny) to
the gasket size. I reworked the exhaust manifolds so they
have no
restrictions from the cast as well as the port flange is now on
30-45° angle
for less resistance and good increase in velocity.
BTW,
when working on the outlet, the guy showed me the valve guide that was
very
short for an exhaust side. With having the outlet ported, the valvce
stems
are more exposed to the heat and a longer valve guide would have been
nice.
Additionally the manual speaks of a tolerance between ex valve stem
and valve
guide of 0.15mm !!! This is definitely too much and on mine we
measured
0.12mm with the new valves. I therefore decided to let him made new
valve
guides for the exhaust and we got about 0.04mm.As said, work was
perfect and
tomorrow the heads will go in :-)
Roger
93'3000GT
TT
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Date:
Wed, 31 May 2000 00:25:20 -0700
From: "Barry E. King" <beking@home.com>
Subject: RE: Team3S:
Porting Heads
Part of the reason for the "loose" tolerance is the fact
that the material
expands a LOT with the extremes of heat. I hope that
0.04mm (which is VERY
tight BTW) is not too little to account for the
expansion of the head, the
guide and the valve stem.
I have seen
valves sieze or wear prematurely with high tolerances than that.
If too tight
but still working it can rob HP or worse, be too slow to close
and make
contact with a piston crown.
Barry
> -----Original
Message-----
> From: owner-team3s@stealth-3000gt.st
>
[mailto:owner-team3s@stealth-3000gt.st]On
Behalf Of R.G.
> Sent: Tuesday, May 30, 2000 11:48 PM
> To: 3000GT
News Group
> Subject: Re: Team3S: Porting Heads
>
>
>
M;y heads have been done by a BMW and Audi expert who did the Alpina BMW
>
Turbos and RS2 Audi Porsches. He found sever edges that could be
> removed
and
> the especially the exhaust side was restrictive at the outlet port.
When
> removing the heads one can see the carbon where the gasket is too
large.
> Even more the exhaust manifold port are smaller (!!!) than
the
> heads outlet
> ports and causes another turbulence and
backpressure that is not
> wanted. He
> worked a lot on the exhaust
side and made them perfect (not that shiny) to
> the gasket size. I
reworked the exhaust manifolds so they have no
> restrictions from the
cast as well as the port flange is now on
> 30-45° angle
> for less
resistance and good increase in velocity.
>
> BTW, when working on
the outlet, the guy showed me the valve
> guide that was
> very
short for an exhaust side. With having the outlet ported, the valvce
>
stems are more exposed to the heat and a longer valve guide would
> have
been
> nice. Additionally the manual speaks of a tolerance between ex
valve stem
> and valve guide of 0.15mm !!! This is definitely too much and
on mine we
> measured 0.12mm with the new valves. I therefore decided to
let
> him made new
> valve guides for the exhaust and we got about
0.04mm.As said, work was
> perfect and tomorrow the heads will go in
:-)
>
> Roger
> 93'3000GT TT
>
>
>
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Date:
Wed, 31 May 2000 11:07:10 +0200
From: lehir@genesiscom.ch (Genesiscon
Lehir)
Subject: RE: Team3S: Apexi avc-r
Yo
>>I need help
with my AVC-R. I cant get it set up right. Why don't the RPM's
>>read
the same numbers as my tach i.e. 3000 rpm's reads 500.
Because......you
PROBABLY hooked the "purple" vire to the INJECTOR ECU wire,
but choose 6
Cylinder car
(as if you were running the Purple on the RPM wire).
In
that case, you're supposed to have a "1" cylinder engine
The fact that
6x500 = 3000 is a big clue
>> I just don't get it.
Tell me
how it's installed, would help
>> I have not been able to get it to
"learn" anything.
According to the manual, the unit is NOT learning
really well when hooked to
the INJECTOR signal
>> Can someone
please explain some of it's functions the manual is no
help.
Agree.....my 300ZXTT fellows definitely helped me on this
one.
>> What does F/B do
Feedback....preventing overboosting
in higher hears (rings a bell ???)
>>start duty do.
Start
with a high number, like 75% (hey, be warned, I have NO experience of
this
stuff on the 3S
>> Can any one offer me any good setup programs
that are working good for
them.
Sorry, I
cannot
>>My car does fine in first gear it boosts to 1.0kg/cm2
but in second
>>gear it jumps to 1.13 kg/cm2 and in third it goes to
1.18 kg/cm2. I can
get
>>stable boost it keeps over
boosting.
Yup, that's what the Feedback is for..and....have you
entered the values in
the "gear judge" as well
???
Henri
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Date:
Wed, 31 May 2000 10:18:02 +0100
From: Gordon Tyrrell <gordon.tyrrell@openet-int.com>
Subject:
Team3S: Warning light - what is it please?
I was giving the car some
stick on hard setting into a bend today when I
noticed a warning light flash.
It only did it on hard acceleration
through bends and only briefly.
I
assumed it was the radiator light but there seems to be enough coolant
and
there also seems to be another warning light that looks more like a
radiator
light. My manual is in Japanese so I have no idea what it is.
I will give
a list of the lights in case it's different on non-japanese
models.
On the
left from the top:
door open
oil light
check
engine
Tour/Sport
On the right from the top:
seat belt
The light
in question
SRS
The other radiator looking light.
If anyone could
let me know what if is I'd be grateful and if it's not
the radiator light
then please let me know where to fill the offending
liquid.
Thanks in
advance
Gordon
Dublin, Ireland
1993 Japanese Import VR4
http://fly.to/mr2.ie
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Date:
Wed, 31 May 2000 10:22:39 +0100
From: Gordon Tyrrell <gordon.tyrrell@openet-int.com>
Subject:
Team3S: Turning down the Boost
It turns out that my intermittent power
loss on hard acceleration is due
to the fact that the boost in the car is
turned up to 1bar (14.5psi) and
the fuel is not adjusted to match (I think it
was and the adjustment
tool was removed before export) so the car is cutting
fuel for a second
to compensate.
My question is this: How the hell do
I turn down the boost or up the
fuel? (preferably down the boost).
I
have no idea how he's increased it although there is an HKS boost
gauge int
he car and a small HKS device at the rear of the engin
compartment which I
thought was just to feed the gauge. Where should I
look in this car for the
most obvious increase place?
My MR2 was just sooooo much easier to figure
out :-)
This thing just has too much engine in
there.
Thanks
Gordon
Dublin, Ireland
1993 Japanese Import
VR4
http://fly.to/mr2.ie
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Date:
Wed, 31 May 2000 11:39:00 +0200
From: "R.G." <robby@freesurf.ch>
Subject: Re:
Team3S: Warning light - what is it please?
Gordon, the radiator light is
combined with the washer fluid tank. Depending
o nthe region you goit the car
from it also has a front tank for the
headlight washers and a rear tank. All
sensors are connected to the same
signal. One of them is on a lower fluid
level :)
Roger
93'3000GT
> I assumed it was the radiator
light but there seems to be enough coolant
> and there also seems to be
another warning light that looks more like a
> radiator light. My manual
is in Japanese so I have no idea what it is.
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Date:
Wed, 31 May 2000 11:55:15 +0200
From: "R.G." <robby@freesurf.ch>
Subject: Re:
Team3S: Turning down the Boost
Well, this is really the first time I hear
such an opposite wuestion :))
> It turns out that my intermittent
power loss on hard acceleration is due
> to the fact that the boost in the
car is turned up to 1bar (14.5psi) and
> the fuel is not adjusted to match
(I think it was and the adjustment
> tool was removed before export) so
the car is cutting fuel for a second
> to compensate.
If you REALLY
are experiencing fuel cut at 1 bar then you do have another
problem for sure
! And fuel cut in our cars mean that there is an invisible
passenger that
draws the handbrake and your head is almost slamming onto the
wheel !!! I'm
not sure if this is fuel cut what you get. If so, you have to
check other
things for sure !
> My question is this: How the hell do I turn down
the boost or up the
> fuel? (preferably down the boost).
Nothing
easier than this :) Look below :
> I have no idea how he's increased
it although there is an HKS boost
> gauge int he car and a small HKS
device at the rear of the engin
> compartment which I thought was just to
feed the gauge. Where should I
> look in this car for the most obvious
increase place?
Well it is possible that you have an electronic boost
meter but I can't
remember the HKS is such a unit.
> My MR2 was
just sooooo much easier to figure out :-)
> This thing just has too much
engine in there.
Oh yes, but working on an MR2 is even less funny or do
you cut the rear
fender to get to the engine, LOL.
Ok, for turning
boost down firstly go to my homepage and check out the
"Turbo basics" page.
It shows you the way our system works and where the
things like boost gauge,
boost controller or bleeder valve are installed.
Then, on your car, locate
the black y-pipe ellbow that leads into the TB. At
the ellbow is a hose
connected. This hose must lead directly to a 4-way
connector close the intake
of the rear turbo. One hose at this connector
then leads up to the most right
solenoid. The other nipple of this solenoid
msut lead to the rubber intake
before the rear turbo. Another hose at the
connector leads directly to the
rear wastegate actuator and the last line
goes to the hardline at the rear
head that finally leads to the front
wastegate actuator. Anything in this
path that is not described has been
installed later and should be removed to
make the car stock.
The bosot gauge should be hooked up at the intake
plenum after the TB. There
are two hoses commign out, at the rear for the
fuel pressure solenoid and at
the front for the bypass valve. You can T into
one of these lines.
I like to stress this again, if yo umeasure 1 bar of
boost i nthe intake and
you are experiencing fuel cut then there is too much
pinging in your car and
I'd say to inspect a lot different things like
compression, ignition wires,
fuel filter, etc.
Hope this
helps
Roger
93'3000GT TT
Switzerland
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Date:
Wed, 31 May 2000 06:33:36 EDT
From: Aso8@aol.com
Subject: Team3S: HKS Super Mega
Flow 4 Sale
I'm selling my "Top of the Line" HKS Duel Super Mega
Flow Intake.
Mine has been Fully Chromed (an expensive option) and I have
both
(2) Brand New Green Mushroom Intakes for it still in the
package.
Like new - $235.00 with shipping.
Please, Email me direct
at aso8@aol.com
Arty 91
VR-4
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Date:
Wed, 31 May 2000 08:22:13 -0400
From: "Scotty" <omnitech@fast.net>
Subject: Re:
Team3S: Warning light - what is it please?
Sounds like you window washer
fluid level light.
I had the same thing happen.
Scotty
92 RT
TT
- ----- Original Message -----
From: "Gordon Tyrrell" <gordon.tyrrell@openet-int.com>
To:
"3000gt" <team3s@stealth-3000gt.st>
Sent:
Wednesday, May 31, 2000 5:18 AM
Subject: Team3S: Warning light - what is it
please?
> I was giving the car some stick on hard setting into a
bend today when I
> noticed a warning light flash. It only did it on hard
acceleration
> through bends and only briefly.
>
> I assumed
it was the radiator light but there seems to be enough coolant
> and there
also seems to be another warning light that looks more like a
> radiator
light. My manual is in Japanese so I have no idea what it is.
>
> I
will give a list of the lights in case it's different on non-japanese
>
models.
> On the left from the top:
> door open
> oil
light
> check engine
> Tour/Sport
>
> On the right from
the top:
> seat belt
> The light in question
> SRS
> The
other radiator looking light.
>
> If anyone could let me know what
if is I'd be grateful and if it's not
> the radiator light then please let
me know where to fill the offending
> liquid.
>
> Thanks in
advance
> Gordon
> Dublin, Ireland
> 1993 Japanese Import
VR4
> http://fly.to/mr2.ie
>
>
>
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Date:
Wed, 31 May 2000 05:50:34 -0700 (PDT)
From: Matt Wise <diranged@south-park.cc>
Subject:
Team3S: Flowmaster on a TT...
In my 93 VR-4, its active exhaust has been
stuck in the shut position
since I bought the car. Also, the car has only
been able to get .5bar of
boost no matter what you do (even disconnecting the
selanoids). Through my
research and desperate searching to answer this
question, I have concluded
that the closure of the exhaust must be limiting
the boost level because
the turbo cant spool up enough. I was about to order
a Borla exhaust when
a friend of mine who works at a muffler shop said he
could do a custom
exhaust for much cheaper. Here's what he offered: a custom
TP that fits
where the cat is so I can pass smog then put the TP in, full 3"
pipe from
the TP back to a flowmaster muffler that has the exact same style
that our
stock mufflers are.. It has an outlet on both sides. Then a 2.5"
pipe from
the back of the muffler to dual dips. The tips are $85 for each set
and
look an AWFULL lot like stock borla tips (not their round ones, but
the
square ones they have). He offered all of this to me for $200, so I
took
the deal. My question is, other than being obscenely loud (which I will
be
trying to correct with a high flow cat instead of a TP), should this
solve
my boost problem?
Also, how much does a TP help on a car thats
basically stock?
Thanks
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Date:
Wed, 31 May 2000 09:22:10 EDT
From: Aso8@aol.com
Subject: Team3S: Re: Flowmaster
on a TT...
Matt, you'll be surprised how mellow our cars sound without
ANY mufflers at
all.
Our turbos muffle the sound so well that with no
mufflers - its not even as
loud as a Mustang with a flowmaster.
Arty 91
VR-4
<< Subj: Flowmaster on a
TT...
Date: 5/31/00 5:45:03 AM Pacific Daylight
Time
From: diranged@south-park.cc (Matt
Wise)
Reply-to: stealth@starnet.net
To:
team3s@stealth-3000gt.st, stealth@stls.verio.net
Here's
what he offered: a custom TP that fits
where the cat is so I can pass
smog then put the TP in, full 3" pipe from
the TP back to a flowmaster
muffler that has the exact same style that our
stock mufflers are.. It
has an outlet on both sides. Then a 2.5" pipe from
the back of the
muffler to dual dips. The tips are $85 for each set and
look an AWFULL
lot like stock borla tips (not their round ones, but the
square ones
they have). He offered all of this to me for $200, so I took
the deal.
My question is, other than being obscenely loud
>>
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Date:
Wed, 31 May 2000 06:37:30 -0700 (PDT)
From: Matt Wise <diranged@south-park.cc>
Subject:
Re: Team3S: Re: Flowmaster on a TT...
Really? Cool.. I want it to sound
NICE, not super loud. Thats promising
news.. How about without cats.. are
they as loud as eclipse's w/o cats?
On Wed, 31 May 2000 Aso8@aol.com wrote:
> Matt, you'll be
surprised how mellow our cars sound without ANY mufflers at
>
all.
> Our turbos muffle the sound so well that with no mufflers - its not
even as
> loud as a Mustang with a flowmaster.
> Arty 91
VR-4
>
> << Subj: Flowmaster on a
TT...
> Date: 5/31/00 5:45:03 AM Pacific Daylight
Time
> From: diranged@south-park.cc (Matt
Wise)
> Reply-to: stealth@starnet.net
>
To: team3s@stealth-3000gt.st, stealth@stls.verio.net
>
> Here's what he offered: a custom TP that fits
> where
the cat is so I can pass smog then put the TP in, full 3" pipe
from
> the TP back to a flowmaster muffler that has the exact same
style that our
> stock mufflers are.. It has an outlet on both
sides. Then a 2.5" pipe from
> the back of the muffler to dual dips.
The tips are $85 for each set and
> look an AWFULL lot like stock
borla tips (not their round ones, but the
> square ones they have).
He offered all of this to me for $200, so I took
> the deal. My
question is, other than being obscenely loud
>
>>
>
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Date:
Wed, 31 May 2000 09:07:54 CDT
From: "Curt Gendron" <curt_gendron@hotmail.com>
Subject:
Re: Team3S: Warning light - what is it please?
Go to:
http://www.geocities.com/SiliconValley/8443/Images_Gto_Man_dash.gif
This
will show you what each of the lights mean. The two most common lights
for fluid are the radiator and windshield washer fluid. Many people
get the
lights mixed up. The radiator light is very sensitive, so make
sure you
have the radiator tank and overflow tank filled up to
specs.
later,
Curt
http://www.mn3s.org
>From:
Gordon Tyrrell <gordon.tyrrell@openet-int.com>
>To:
3000gt <team3s@stealth-3000gt.st>
>Subject:
Team3S: Warning light - what is it please?
>Date: Wed, 31 May 2000
10:18:02 +0100
>
>I was giving the car some stick on hard setting
into a bend today when I
>noticed a warning light flash. It only did it on
hard acceleration
>through bends and only briefly.
>
>I
assumed it was the radiator light but there seems to be enough
coolant
>and there also seems to be another warning light that looks more
like a
>radiator light. My manual is in Japanese so I have no idea what it
is.
>
>I will give a list of the lights in case it's different on
non-japanese
>models.
>On the left from the top:
>door
open
>oil light
>check engine
>Tour/Sport
>
>On
the right from the top:
>seat belt
>The light in
question
>SRS
>The other radiator looking light.
>
>If
anyone could let me know what if is I'd be grateful and if it's not
>the
radiator light then please let me know where to fill the
offending
>liquid.
>
>Thanks in
advance
>Gordon
>Dublin, Ireland
>1993 Japanese Import
VR4
>http://fly.to/mr2.ie
>
>
>
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Date:
Wed, 31 May 2000 10:13:40 EDT
From: Klusmanp@aol.com
Subject: Team3S: Does
Kansas have emissions testing?
Moving to Kansas in a few weeks. Anybody
know if I'll have to start worrying
about emissions on my '91
VR4?
Thanks,
Paul Klusman
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Date:
Wed, 31 May 2000 10:13:44 EDT
From: Klusmanp@aol.com
Subject: Team3S: Bad
throw-out bearing on clutch?
Anybody know if the shaft that the throw-out
bearing rides on is replaceable,
or is this a permanent part of the
transmission? (I believe it is called the
nose piece?) I suspect mine might
have a grove worn by a bad throw-out
bearing.
Thanks,
Paul
Klusman
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Date:
Wed, 31 May 2000 09:28:34 -0500
From: Merritt <merritt@cedar-rapids.net>
Subject:
Re: Team3S: Does Kansas have emissions testing?
At 10:13 AM 5/31/00 EDT,
Klusmanp@aol.com wrote:
>Moving to
Kansas in a few weeks. Anybody know if I'll have to start worrying
>about
emissions on my '91 VR4?
Dunno. But we have some great open track events
in Topeka at Heartland
Park, if you are into that sort of
stuff.
Rich/old poop/94 VR4
.
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Date:
Wed, 31 May 2000 09:34:38 -0500
From: Trevor James <trevor@kscable.com>
Subject: Re:
Team3S: Does Kansas have emissions testing?
Just an initial visual
inspection on out of state vehicles and that's it. No
annuals or emissions
inspections.
Trevor
96 R/T TT W/No cats
92 GMC Typhoon
Klusmanp@aol.com wrote:
> Moving to
Kansas in a few weeks. Anybody know if I'll have to start worrying
> about
emissions on my '91 VR4?
>
> Thanks,
>
> Paul
Klusman
>
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Date:
Wed, 31 May 2000 16:57:42 +0200
From: "R.G." <robby@freesurf.ch>
Subject: Re:
Team3S: Flowmaster on a TT...
> He offered all of this to me for $200,
so I took
> the deal. My question is, other than being obscenely loud
(which I will be
> trying to correct with a high flow cat instead of a
TP), should this solve
> my boost problem?
No, I doubt that this
solves any boost problems especially because your
pre-cats are still in place
(I guess so) and the downpipe is also not
replaced by a better design (stock
is stupid). For loudness, no it really
isn't that load but with a too small
muffler the exhaust starts to resonate
between 2300 and 2900 and becomes
anyoing under load in this range. This is
the bad point with the Borla and
I'm now looking for any change i nthe
system that may help. One note, I doubt
that you will get T304 stainless
steel quality with the custom
exhaust.
> Also, how much does a TP help on a car thats basically
stock?
Hmm, this depends but I'd say nothing. We tested three cars on the
dyno with
different setups and at 1 bar max boost the stock exhaust had the
best
results !! Even my latest dyno was with the stock dp, all cats and
stock
exhaust and I got around 420hp at 16 psi. The most you will gain is
weight,
as the stock system is very heavy. With the Borla my car looks like
an SUV
at the moment, LOL !
Roger
93'3000GT
TT
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Date:
Wed, 31 May 2000 08:08:58 -0700 (PDT)
From: Matt Wise <diranged@south-park.cc>
Subject:
Team3S: Was "flowmaster on a tt" , NOW: Low boost ?
Thanks for the info..
Ok so then this still leaves the question, why do I
have such low boost. WHen
I installed the MBC (yes a crappy walmart one, i
was just testing) it was
WILD.. it jumped my boost ALL OVER the
place... Could it be my selanoids? Or
maybe I havea misrouted hose or a
leak on an IC pipe? anything sound good?
On Wed, 31 May 2000, R.G. wrote:
> > He offered all of this
to me for $200, so I took
> > the deal. My question is, other than
being obscenely loud (which I will be
> > trying to correct with a high
flow cat instead of a TP), should this solve
> > my boost
problem?
>
> No, I doubt that this solves any boost problems
especially because your
> pre-cats are still in place (I guess so) and the
downpipe is also not
> replaced by a better design (stock is stupid). For
loudness, no it really
> isn't that load but with a too small muffler the
exhaust starts to resonate
> between 2300 and 2900 and becomes anyoing
under load in this range. This is
> the bad point with the Borla and I'm
now looking for any change i nthe
> system that may help. One note, I
doubt that you will get T304 stainless
> steel quality with the custom
exhaust.
>
> > Also, how much does a TP help on a car thats
basically stock?
>
> Hmm, this depends but I'd say nothing. We
tested three cars on the dyno with
> different setups and at 1 bar max
boost the stock exhaust had the best
> results !! Even my latest dyno was
with the stock dp, all cats and stock
> exhaust and I got around 420hp at
16 psi. The most you will gain is weight,
> as the stock system is very
heavy. With the Borla my car looks like an SUV
> at the moment, LOL
!
>
> Roger
> 93'3000GT TT
>
>
>
>
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Date:
Wed, 31 May 2000 17:31:21 +0200
From: "R.G." <robby@freesurf.ch>
Subject: Re:
Team3S: Was "flowmaster on a tt" , NOW: Low boost ?
> have such low
boost. WHen I installed the MBC (yes a crappy walmart one, i
> was just
testing) it was WILD.. it jumped my boost ALL OVER the
>
place...
Have you probably something damaged. Saying ALL OVER the place
do you mean
above 1.2 bars or 17-18psi ?? If so then you must also think of
defective
internals.
> Could it be my selanoids?
I can't
remember what solenoids. Blitz I guess, right ?
> Or maybe I havea
misrouted hose or a
> leak on an IC pipe? anything sound
good?
Everything is possible from stuck open wastegates, misrouted hoses,
leaks on
IC, clogged pre-cats, cracked pistons, cracked rings, cocked up
valve seats,
etc. You should eliminate the possible causes step by step and
I'd start to
remove the controlelr solenoids and putting the stock pipes in
place.
Good luck
Roger
93'3000GT TT
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Date:
Wed, 31 May 2000 08:43:30 -0700 (PDT)
From: Matt Wise <diranged@south-park.cc>
Subject:
Re: Team3S: Was "flowmaster on a tt" , NOW: Low boost ?
It never went
over 1bar...
>
> Have you probably something damaged. Saying
ALL OVER the place do you mean
> above 1.2 bars or 17-18psi ?? If so then
you must also think of defective
> internals.
>
> > Could
it be my selanoids?
I haev no boost controller right now. I meant the
stock selanoid that
controlls the boost..
>
> I can't
remember what solenoids. Blitz I guess, right ?
>
> > Or maybe I
havea misrouted hose or a
> > leak on an IC pipe? anything sound
good?
>
> Everything is possible from stuck open wastegates,
misrouted hoses, leaks on
> IC, clogged pre-cats, cracked pistons, cracked
rings, cocked up valve seats,
> etc. You should eliminate the possible
causes step by step and I'd start to
> remove the controlelr solenoids and
putting the stock pipes in place.
>
Way to make me nervous! hehe.
I doubt its anything TOO major because ive
driven it 20,000 miles like this..
w.o ANY problems..
> Good luck
> Roger
> 93'3000GT
TT
>
>
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Date:
Wed, 31 May 2000 08:38:58 -0700 (PDT)
From: Jeff Lucius <stealthman92@yahoo.com>
Subject:
Re: Team3S: Flowmaster on a TT...
Hi Matt,
The stock wastegates
(on the 15Gs and 9Bs) are designed to open
around 0.4 bar (5-7 psi range).
Unless your exhaust has been damaged
and presents a severe restriction, I
highly doubt that it is limiting
you boost. If your car has the stock boost
control solenoid on it,
then 0.5 bar is actually pretty good. Since you have
a boost number I
assume you have an aftermarket gauge or boost controller?
The stock
gauge shows make believe numbers.
Go ahead and replace your
exhaust but your boost level problems lie
elsewhere. We'll need more info to
help you out. Mods done to car for
starters.
- -----------
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Lucius, 3SI #476
Red 1992 Stealth TT - modified
--> http://www.3si.org/member-home/jlucius/
The
new 3/S Backup CD Homepage
--> http://www.manualcd.com/
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From: "Matt Wise" <diranged@south-park.cc>
To:
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<stealth@starnet.net>
Sent:
Wednesday, May 31, 2000 6:50 AM
Subject: Team3S: Flowmaster on a
TT...
In my 93 VR-4, its active exhaust has been stuck in the shut
position
since I bought the car. Also, the car has only been able to get
.5bar
of boost no matter what you do (even disconnecting the
selanoids).
Through my research and desperate searching to answer this
question,
I have concluded that the closure of the exhaust must be limiting
the
boost level because the turbo cant spool up enough.
<snip>
Thanks
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Date:
Wed, 31 May 2000 08:49:30 -0700 (PDT)
From: Matt Wise <diranged@south-park.cc>
Subject:
Re: Team3S: Flowmaster on a TT...
Interesting.. I have a Blitz Dual Turbo
timer.. which is a digital boost
guage and turbo timer. When I put it into
each gear and floor it, the max
boost I hit is about .45-.48 bar. I know the
car has the stock boost
selanoid too.. Is it possible that the boost
controller is actually only
measuring boost for one turbo somehow? Maybe i
misplaced the line? (I
doubt it, it seemed pretty easy), but possible..
Because even with this
low boost, Ive raced Camero SS's and only lost by 1-2
car lengths.. which
leads me to believe I have the right amount of power..
On Wed, 31 May 2000, Jeff Lucius wrote:
> Hi Matt,
>
> The stock wastegates (on the 15Gs and 9Bs) are designed to open
>
around 0.4 bar (5-7 psi range). Unless your exhaust has been damaged
> and
presents a severe restriction, I highly doubt that it is limiting
> you
boost. If your car has the stock boost control solenoid on it,
> then 0.5
bar is actually pretty good. Since you have a boost number I
> assume you
have an aftermarket gauge or boost controller? The stock
> gauge shows
make believe numbers.
>
> Go ahead and replace your exhaust but
your boost level problems lie
> elsewhere. We'll need more info to help
you out. Mods done to car for
> starters.
>
>
-----------
> Jeff Lucius, 3SI #476
> Red 1992 Stealth TT -
modified
> --> http://www.3si.org/member-home/jlucius/
>
The new 3/S Backup CD Homepage
> --> http://www.manualcd.com/
>
>
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> From: "Matt Wise" <diranged@south-park.cc>
> To:
<team3s@stealth-3000gt.st>;
<stealth@starnet.net>
>
Sent: Wednesday, May 31, 2000 6:50 AM
> Subject: Team3S: Flowmaster on a
TT...
>
> In my 93 VR-4, its active exhaust has been stuck in the
shut position
> since I bought the car. Also, the car has only been able
to get .5bar
> of boost no matter what you do (even disconnecting the
selanoids).
> Through my research and desperate searching to answer this
question,
> I have concluded that the closure of the exhaust must be
limiting the
> boost level because the turbo cant spool up enough.
>
> <snip>
>
> Thanks
>
>
>
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Date:
Wed, 31 May 2000 09:09:43 -0700 (PDT)
From: Matt Wise <diranged@south-park.cc>
Subject:
Re: Team3S: Flowmaster on a TT...
I wanted to just thank everybody who
has offered their help to me on this
issue. I now have a number of ideas to
go on and hopefully will be able to
solve the mysterious missing boost
question :)
On Wed, 31 May 2000, Jeff Lucius wrote:
> Hi
Matt,
>
> The stock wastegates (on the 15Gs and 9Bs) are designed
to open
> around 0.4 bar (5-7 psi range). Unless your exhaust has been
damaged
> and presents a severe restriction, I highly doubt that it is
limiting
> you boost. If your car has the stock boost control solenoid on
it,
> then 0.5 bar is actually pretty good. Since you have a boost number
I
> assume you have an aftermarket gauge or boost controller? The
stock
> gauge shows make believe numbers.
>
> Go ahead and
replace your exhaust but your boost level problems lie
> elsewhere. We'll
need more info to help you out. Mods done to car for
> starters.
>
> -----------
> Jeff Lucius, 3SI #476
> Red 1992 Stealth TT -
modified
> --> http://www.3si.org/member-home/jlucius/
>
The new 3/S Backup CD Homepage
> --> http://www.manualcd.com/
>
>
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> From: "Matt Wise" <diranged@south-park.cc>
> To:
<team3s@stealth-3000gt.st>;
<stealth@starnet.net>
>
Sent: Wednesday, May 31, 2000 6:50 AM
> Subject: Team3S: Flowmaster on a
TT...
>
> In my 93 VR-4, its active exhaust has been stuck in the
shut position
> since I bought the car. Also, the car has only been able
to get .5bar
> of boost no matter what you do (even disconnecting the
selanoids).
> Through my research and desperate searching to answer this
question,
> I have concluded that the closure of the exhaust must be
limiting the
> boost level because the turbo cant spool up enough.
>
> <snip>
>
> Thanks
>
>
>
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